MB:125 with Angie from The McCharmlys | The Tritones (Oralia)

Gill hangs out with Angie, artist, musician, and photographer from The McCharmlys, The Tritones, @whoisangelica_

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Transcript

three two oh no Angie what's up what's up dude Hi how

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are you I'm doing well no is it Angie or I don't want to give your government name what's what's good well my name is

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Angelica Angelica okay for the Americans and for the for the Spanish Angelica for

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the nosable kids yeah Angelica yeah okay so Woody Angie and helica um I guess

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it's kind of it's kind of changed throughout the years so like in high school it was like Angel oh okay and

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probably because I went to a private school that was like oh Angel you know and then

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um from there I just changed to Angie so I guess Angie's kind of with what's in right now there we go but I have uh no

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no preference this one okay Angie all right have you done anything like this before

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um we did one podcast but I've never done it by myself oh really yes come on

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first who did you do the other podcast with um

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they always forget it's fine oh I'm so tired no they're they're super cool we like

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totally like gained a homie from from doing that oh nice okay yeah uh did you do that with the make charmelegs or the

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high tones yeah I did that with the mccharley's oh okay yeah yeah and if you guys don't know

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Angie is part of a badass band that I love dearly the Big Charlie's Fanboys

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over them yeah not even that much why do you gotta give that out

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I'm honored thank you I'm sure the boys would be happy too um so thanks for coming in and and doing

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this thank you for having me this is uh kind of exciting I don't know it was a nice little

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little reach out I was like hell yeah I want to do this right yeah it's pretty fun we've been doing it for a couple of

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years now so thanks for coming out cool thank you thank you so Santa Ana Santa

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Anna yep that's where you're from that's where I'm from so I was originally born in Linwood Los Angeles yeah okay so

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so we're your neighbors oh no way but

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um yeah I was born in Linwood and I lived in La for I don't know maybe like two years and then I moved to Santana

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and I've been there ever since so I think for a little bit I moved to

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Fullerton and then I just ended up moving back and I ended up finding a really nice spot that I love and now I'm

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just there in downtown pretty close Sophia is a really good dog yeah like honestly she's a really good dog can we

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get oh before we put the the dog cam this is the first time ever somebody has

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brought their their other half with them my Shadows my Pokemon and uh we got a

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dog cam ladies and gentlemen Sophia

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[Laughter] no she's a really good dog she just

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chills right there right yeah with her bowl of pozole [Laughter]

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in my mom's house no they're it's a dog bowl in high

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school now we're stretching we repurposed it

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oh that's awesome but she's yeah she's a really good dog yeah thank you for having both of us I was a little concerned on bringing her over I don't

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know if she's gonna like or something like that but she seems

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Kim's okay right so like uh like doing this compared to

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going on stage is it any different do you still get the those nerves flowing

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totally I think just in like all around I'm just like a nervous

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person I think oh yeah I'm super self-critical and very nervous about like oh am I doing this am I doing this

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correctly you know am I being am I okay was that answer too sharp was I being nice enough was I being okay like I'm

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very uh guess I overthink a lot oh okay so it's a little nerve-wracking but then I just

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have to push myself just yeah just do it but I think the positive thing about that is that you become somewhat of like

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a perfectionist like you're very detail-oriented in what you do right yeah that but also I I also feel like

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there's moments I'm just like just put it out there you know just throw it out there

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yeah cause you can you can't tell when you go on stage it looks like you're only it's not everything yeah

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I would have never thought you would like be second guessing yourself oh cool

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yeah you just get up on stage throw your guitar and do your thing that's what it looks like it's it's fun it's it's such

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a privilege I'm just I'm just happy that yeah I'm able to do this and that people actually like it I'm like sweet all

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right great what was the what was the first moment like when you went on stage tell me

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about that I don't even remember when the first moment was I've

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been on stage for a long time okay not just on stage but behind cameras I used to do um a little bit of acting like oh

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really I did a lot of things really okay very fortunate enough to have parents that were like what do you want to do

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what's up with it I'm like I want to do this this this is this and they were like all right well one condition you

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know you can do whatever you want and you know we'll work two jobs or we'll like try to do whatever to help you to

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get there but you gotta stick it out so I was like okay you know that really pushed me in a lot of ways to do Sports

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to to learn how to do everything that I wanted to do everything that I set my mind to do so

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that was helpful what kind of sports did you play ooh uh swimming and track oh

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okay yeah those are my like top ones I did a little bit of volleyball a little bit of basketball but it was I'm mainly

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like a runner runner and a swimmer besides the guitar and singing do you uh do you play any other instruments

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um I play the bass I play a little piano I'm not like you know all crazy but I

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can I can hold a cord oh yeah and I can kind of you know make a song out of something even even if I don't know what

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I'm doing it's just about like sound and what's pleasing and what you know I I try to study my own favorite songs and

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see what is it about this song that I like is it the way that is played or the way you know that Bell is in the

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background ever so slightly like that drives me crazy you know like stuff like that uh have you do you like The Beach Boys

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at all I love the Beach Boys yeah yeah Pet Sounds is probably one of the best

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[ __ ] album that I can wrap my head around I agree I till this day I still I

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I can't I can't get over it I don't know why you said Belle and automatically Pet Sounds Pet Sounds came to my head for

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some odd reason yeah well there are a lot of bells there's a

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lot of sounds in there right yeah and like the very last song too there's like all these animals and what is it like a

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train of some sort passes a buyer unless I came out I was like oh damn okay

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um but yeah so besides the Beach Boys who else uh who else inspires you and influences you

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oh a lot of bands you'll be surprised

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um right now on the way over here I was listening to uh Julio Jaramillo are you

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are you guys familiar with him Amber are you can we look this guy oh we're gonna look

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him up yeah maybe I am maybe I've heard Julio Jaramillo

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so yeah [Music]

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let's see what song do I like what's what's that like my main song that I like it's um

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yeah okay Podium is pretty good too but it's it's like all well little it's like

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very like oh nice over here no wait that was good too yeah I just put that one no

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one's I think it's like a compilation let's see oh

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okay yeah [Music]

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the melody the way it sounds sounds sad

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it's beautiful [Music]

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remember [Music]

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foreign [Music]

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yeah like I'm I'm inspired by a lot of boleros a lot of like

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I don't know I like a lot of things a lot of different things and I mean yes like I love the beach boys I love the

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Beatles too like they're a huge influence on me but um there's just so much out there

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there's so much that I've learned and I feel like I don't know I just I like it all and I

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want to do it all but let me try these is like a nice little other version of myself that oh that's it's like it's

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like okay part of me you know that's that's a good way to put it I like that yeah it's just like

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one part of Angie but there's like a million other parts of Angie um you mentioned the tritones earlier so I'm

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I'm also um currently writing with them but we're in the process of changing our name oh

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okay which if you want I'll drop it here you drop it so the name of the band

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we're gonna change it or we're hoping to change it and we're hoping to name it oralia oh wow which um we actually got

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inspired from another artist that came out with a song titled that way but we

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also found out that it's a name from like other people you know like it's like a like a female name that means

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like Golden Sun or like a strong like a bright Sun something along the lines like that but we just loved it and um

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yeah the music is very much also inspired by like things like this which is like perfect I just like to mix all

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my all my favorite things together say the band name again okay and uh but we're called the

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tritones right now okay so I I kind of joined their group okay and we're slowly

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transitioning okay oh wow that's like another part of Angie you know like

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another version of like oh you know there's rock and roll there's like this

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other thing you know and you said that uh Hulu jaramio is what what type of

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music is that is it is like

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[Music]

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is is this music Andrew like your parents music did your parents did you

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grow up listening my parents like it I I wasn't oh hell no no no I was raised

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like my mom liked what um

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yeah 80s early 90s stuff okay exactly

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during the the meal

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phase you know like that yes Bolero is a 1928 work of large Orchestra by French

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composer wait hold on I think uh that is a name of the song okay Bolero is a

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genre of song which originated in eastern Cuba in the late 19th century as

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a part of the drova tradition I don't know I guess we can't really

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what's drova yeah what is strova now I'm like isn't trova like um like the

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instruments like the is a form of a love song [Music]

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um look up uh mostly Mexican compose composers working in the 1940s wrote

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songs that became popular throughout the Spanish-speaking world the lyrics often

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reflect themes of Bittersweet unrequited betrayal or eternal love so maybe Bolero

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is not like the actual like instrument music I think it's like the theme of songs like a

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I don't know I feel like I was just listening to this stuff for so long I'm like that's not about you know yeah like

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you can kind of differentiate between like a trio so it's like a like a filling

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like a I would say like a genre like that right yeah yeah it's like it's like a genre what's the genre with feeling

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what's the root word of bolero

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you have to understand Andrew that I I have I I don't know Spanish

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I may look I may look like I know Spanish whatever you go I what am I I'm

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uh

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I can like read it perfectly but I I can understand make maybe 70 of it I think

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it's great to be curious yeah let's let's dig in I mean I could always learn some more like I learned uh the the

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rubber what is it uh yes I learned that yeah

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we're like oh we're talking about another guess we had about a salvadora you know and he was like we're like trying to

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explain to him what it is and he's like well what does that translate to in English and I'm like uh there's a really

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yeah like the rub like she's rubbing me yeah but there's a good uh clip on

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YouTube if anybody wants to go check that out the clip is just one of my own I think you learned a new word for me

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daily right daily yeah every every couple days I learn a new word no I know

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a genre of music now yeah bolero and um I've been like super into uh Rock in

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espanol for the past what like three weeks awesome yeah yeah so the eStudio

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is probably like thank you oh is my like my jam right now

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really and Zoe Zoe Is My Jam house yeah dude but yeah I I found a new love for

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like a different genre of music lately that's cool let me show you some stuff I'll show you something I'm really into there we go

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um well I mean I'm sure a lot of people like them but Ramona have you heard of

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Ramona I've heard of uh Ramon Ayala oh Nasi Ramon Ayala Ramona

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so I mean that's like their top song it's really great

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I'm like you want something to drink I I got you something right here sure yeah I mean

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would you guys like some it's not a rock

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oh I like that [Music]

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you want ice fishing it's fine thank you

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foreign [Music]

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I love this kind of music they sound really good right

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and this is a new like how how um they're not that old right like they're

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no they're they're not that old it's like there's like this new style coming up

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with Ramona and like another guy called Daniel mestamatando

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all good music I feel like a lot of bands now like including your guyses is bringing that

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like 60s 70s like I love it because again like juice thank you

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hello oh by the way you're not allergic to

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like banana or anything are you no this is amazing okay whiskey

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oh this is smells good right yeah this is cool

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first time I had it was on a buddy of mine uh on his podcast and the rambling

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alcoholics podcast and he had he has like whiskey bottles everywhere I love it yeah so I A friend of mine

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tried this one I had a Buffalo Trace I think it was called but yeah I smelled

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this one and I was like you know what I get I have to get a bottle yeah this is like sweet very light

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because it's so like it's just smooth just easy to drink yeah you're not like hit instantly by the

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bitterness that's yeah super good right it's dangerous it's tasty

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um so besides this guy are these guys um what are what other music oh there's

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more yeah this is like kind of the same style that I'm it it's like a

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it's called Bolero Glam oh I like that right okay

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[Music]

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oh that's so cool [Music]

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[Music] this kind of sounds like a song that

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already exists no like the music okay no yeah no definitely I think it's it's

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nostalgic I think it's very much something that is familiar but

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has an interesting twist to it [Music] oh I really like it

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we're listening to some early uh some stuff earlier too right Amber

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too much I was showing him the foreign

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we were looking for um well she was looking for that but a lot of the like the old Spanish I guess

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in the 60s that were like kind of like um oh there we go

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yeah [Music] there's a lot of stuff that inspires to

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make charmelee's too it's like this style like it's it's I can name tons of

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songs my grandma actually used to like play for me that's how I know all these songs

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[Music] I love this type of music it's really

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cool same yeah well the first time I heard you guys play and I seen it I was like damn

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these guys are doing like a uh like a five piece [ __ ] vocal Harmony and I

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was just like what thank you yeah like you don't see that often like you don't

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well at least for me at that the first time I seen it I was just like oh wow that's that's something that you don't

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see like at least for me I'm sorry oh yeah thank you yeah the boys are amazing

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singers I'm like really fortunate to be playing with a bunch of guys that number one like to sing and aren't like scared

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to go ahead and use their voice and play like all badass so yeah we're just yeah

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it's it's fun and they sound so good like I like to capture a lot of our behind

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the scenes because they it's just it's raw it's like that's what we are is just there's no edit there's no like extra

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Reverb it's like if we post something on IG and you see us singing It's like raw yeah yeah you posted something earlier

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was it today or yesterday it's like I'm posting all weekend yeah yeah well you zoomed in on Ringo Starr that video and

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it was your uh your base the bass player's name his name Carlos Carlos Eddie okay yeah and uh like I've seen

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the the that video and I was like oh man I can't wait this is this is cool that video that back that background

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um yeah behind the scenes dude it was cool thank you yeah we uh we were

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recording at jazz cats okay which is located on the Long Beach if you've never

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been or you've never I don't know you want to make some cool music you ought to hit up Johnny from Jazz cats really

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okay yeah no [ __ ] straight to the point straight to music and what do you

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want to do that's the way you want it all right bam bam bam I love it that's sweet it's awesome how long did you were

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you guys in the studio for um I think like a total of like we were

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in the studio like four or five times oh okay but that was like within a span of like

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two years oh okay um we've actually recorded this album a few times with other people

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but it's just kind of fallen through really yeah we've been kind of like rotating members too this is like the

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most solid lineup too and sometimes our drummer Bobby uh he's currently in the Navy so

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sometimes he can't make it to all the gigs so we'll like move around members so we can continue to play oh okay have

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fun how long have you guys been like a band for um since 2018 really okay yeah I've um

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I mean since I like came back on the music scene uh I see you guys uh play

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uh with Los yesterdays uh bad Hombres and uh Maria Sanchez and Adrian Carmine

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yeah yeah so that that was the first night that that like I seen you guys and

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I'm like man these guys are [ __ ] cool I remember that was like the Goldfish yeah yeah that was a fun show I was so

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nervous I was like oh my God like nobody I don't think they like this kind of stuff because I feel like La is mainly

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like into Seoul right now like everyone's really on that on that Soul Train and it sounds amazing

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I mean it's it's it's really popping off so I'm just kind of like oh I hope people you know like this kind of stuff

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it's just we're just having fun and experimenting with it but um yeah has the music evolved since 2018

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like or have you guys always like started the way that you guys are now

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um the music has definitely evolved mainly because we added on like members

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so like Eddie is our newest member oh Eddie's the one with the scarf and

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it's like 12 guitar the toe string so he's he's our newest member but he's

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like such a joy to have that's a 12 string guitar yeah he plays

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a 12 string really yeah so it kind of adds like an extra swing to the okay damn I'm blind I

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didn't know that was a 12 string guitar Yeah Eddie Eddie plays a 12 Carlos plays a bass I play Rhythm David plays like

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lead lead and then Bobby plays drums so it's David okay

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[Laughter] so since 2018 that's uh that's pretty rad have you were you with them like

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from like getting all the everybody together like from from the you're an OG

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yeah well originally Bobby and I started the band okay so I didn't even want to

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have this band it was more of like okay well I have these songs and I had um I

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was with someone else at the time and the person I was with was like oh at least this is pretty cool like you

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should we should play these songs I was like okay so we started playing and um

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just kind of caught on I just kind of kept doing it and then you know as

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myself and Bobby and and you know this guy that was bass and then he um he went somewhere else and then we

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decided to come with Carlos Carlos also another great addition to the band

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um just a wonderful musician and uh we added him and then we added

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David you know we kind of met with David I personally asked David to to jam because he's in another band called The

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Valley rats okay they're amazing too you should definitely check them out but um

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yeah him and his brother are twins and they play in this other band I was like yo you guys should Jam and uh he ended up sticking around and

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ended up liking the songs and we have until this day and yeah and he's the last one and he's the

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last one that kind of jumped on board I was like hey you want to play he's like yeah dude I love the songs

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where did you meet Eddie Eddie oh I'm at Eddie through Carlos oh okay cool Eddie

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is actually Carlos's roommate so and I I guess Eddie used to be in

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another band a long time ago called The Whiskey dynamos okay which was one of Carlos's favorite bands so I guess it

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kind of kept in contact and that's just kind of how it happened so

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that's how the Avengers assembled essentially yep essentially essentially

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charmele is a set yeah everybody has like a different color ring yeah like a different color scar oh

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yeah there we go scarf sorry excuse me that'll has a little bit more flavor

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than a ring does but that's cool dude dang since 2018. how long were you

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playing music before then before you started to make sure anyways

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okay long time is that a loaded question yeah I've been doing I've been I've been writing songs since I was like eight I'd

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say oh wow I think you're just like writing just damn that's cool writing making up Melodies In My Head before I

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even knew how to play guitar before before anything I was just like yeah cool all right I'm just gonna write to

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that and I would just try to remember the melody and I'll just go from there but eventually I begged my mom to teach

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me or to to take me to go get lessons she's like all right then guitar lessons boom singing lessons boom so I

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ended up in an academy where I did a lot of like voice-overs and dancing and a

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little bit of modeling I just learned like like various things and I got an agent I started doing commercials okay

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yeah I got I got deep into it wait hold on yeah exactly are you in a

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commercial that we can pull up oh I don't know I did a commercial

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I don't even remember when what 2013 I really don't know it's been a while she

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knows that it was uh I really don't it was a commercial for Disney Channel so my agent called me up dang my agent's

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name was Miriam and she was the same age she was Shia LaBeouf's agent when he was

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in like Even Stevens and like and like all that stuff so she was higher right yeah that was him right yeah no that was

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Frankie Muniz oh yeah yeah oh yeah my bad but

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um yeah uh so she called me up she's like hey there's just awesome opportunity you should go I was like okay whatever so the the segment was

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called that's the word okay and it was from Disney Channel and basically we were promoting The Suite Life of Zack

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and Cody too I believe in High School Musical so we're like oh yeah and that's the

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word like so we had to like point on the camera and be all like you know that was the one commercial I did and I

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was like like homeschooled for a day or like I guess trailer school like they had me in

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a trailer like getting my makeup done and wow so I was like all right and how old were you when all this was going on

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12 something like that maybe 12 13. maybe and this was wet in 2003

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I think or 2013 I honestly don't remember that's the word thing yeah something that's the word Disney maybe

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can we look that up you could you could try I mean I'd be surprised too I'm sure

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my mom has like a little videos let's call your mom

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that's the word that's the word put like Disney Channel Sweet Life as I can Cody I don't know see if that'll come out

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okay there I I seen a commercial yeah it might be Suite Life on Deck actually

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maybe on Deck yeah is it

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can we have a Disney kid on the show today

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commercial Disney kid no no no no no no I honestly was a long time I'm gonna keep

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looking for it while you guys talk and I was like I was like in the swimming lessons at this point so like you know I

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was spending my summer with like a bunch of kids and um I remember I got made fun of the

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whole summer forest why they're like oh we saw you on Disney Channel

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stupid I was like uh I was like at least I was on it yeah

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right I know I'm like [ __ ] kids are [ __ ] kids are [ __ ] that was an

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adult you're like cool you were on a commercial I know man Once Upon a Time that's awesome so you

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did this commercial did you do any other work um yeah I did more work for like college

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students so like college students that needed you know actresses for hires I would like oh okay go to universities or

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colleges and like be a part of their whatever they hired me for so I did a few different kinds of

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commercials but I never really got to see any of them really this one was the only one that I really got to see

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because it like aired on TV so you were a miner so that means your parents were

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pretty supportive of of you yeah doing this type of work that's awesome I was

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very blessed very fortunate to be able to have a mom and a dad to push me and

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be like all right you want to do this but you need to follow through there's no quitting yeah there's never no

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quitting like you have to follow through the season or follow through whatever you're doing if I'm gonna do you know this amount you You're Gonna Learn yeah

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like okay are either of them musicians or anything hell no no so just not at

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all no one in your family can sing and play Insurance cousin second cousin how do I put this brother sister so I was

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raised by my stepdad by my stepdad and my mom so that's my biological mom but I had a stepdad and

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as far as I know from my biological side of the family

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I think I might have like one distant uncle that probably played something but

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nothing direct like my dad was very like I don't need you to be listening to No

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secular music in the house strict very like like he would show me

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Led Zeppelin to show me the bad stuff about it you know like oh check this out they're actually worshiping what's bad

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about it

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so he was very real like a religious person what what would my dad say because

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because my dad would be very much like oh well you know religious is different than than being a Catholic or or

32:59

whatever he might say but it's it's like um yeah he he very much is really in God in

33:07

this very very much into studying theology okay so he was yes pretty much right okay yeah okay

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not not any type of like Christianity or Catholicism he's Catholic Catholic okay

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so I was I was raised Catholic I was brought up Catholic I went to a private Catholic school I was fortunate enough

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to to grow up in a private Catholic school so yeah dang yeah how long were you in the

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Catholic school for um until I graduated high school really

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dang uniform from second grade to old what to 18. what was that like

33:47

what was that like uh it was fine I mean I hated High School in general I just hated high school so it doesn't matter

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whether you're uh in Catholic School in high school or public school you just

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you everybody just hates it right yeah I was like pretty stupid

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like I hate it dang dude that's wild um but how do you feel about religious

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uh religion now well I think it's I think it's very personal I definitely think it's just

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something that you know it's tailored to each person or whatever you believe

34:21

you know like I don't I don't I don't want to be the kind of person who likes shove my ideals onto anybody else or make someone

34:28

else feel bad for believing whenever they believe in on the contrary I think it's like a good thing to listen to

34:35

another person and and you know what they believe in because you never know you could always learn something

34:41

whether it's for you or not it's always a learning experience okay but you

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wouldn't go out to like Friday night service um I I would like I went to church with

34:52

my dad okay Sunday he invited me to church and just something that I did

34:58

Growing Up and I don't mind spending an hour you know going to church with with my dad I think I enjoyed more the music

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like I'm more excited about listening to the Samoan sing out at church or like it's just

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I was I was brought up with the idea of like if you sing your prayers God will listen

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to them like 10 times more supposedly is what like a nun would tell us back in in

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in elementary school so I would like sing really loud and be all like I hope God hears this

35:30

God okay that makes sense but um yeah did

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you sing in Catholic school I did everything I did alter serving I did singing in choir well yeah that's right

35:42

because you said that you you um you did Sports you did sports with with the school too I did Sports dang

35:49

yeah did it I just wanted to do it oh I've always been like a like a Restless child even when I'm resting I'm like I'm

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not doing enough what can I do what else can I do what else do I like to do like ah like what

36:05

do you like doing now besides that we were we were thinking about that right Amber like I mean we're we're going

36:11

through what we were kind of stalking you a little bit we're going through your profile you're like okay this

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girl's in two bands she she obviously she she's a photographer she she likes

36:22

taking her camera and taking you know capturing moments videography and all that [ __ ] I'm like dude like and then

36:30

we're like where do you find the time like hey like what what other stuff do you do that you don't put on your

36:35

profile

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probably 99 of my day revolves around music so I'm a professional photographer

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by day I I work you know doing videos and okay so that's your day job and editing yeah oh wow okay it's one of my

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many passions for any type of what's usually what's the subject is it food is it food is it really yeah it's food it's

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food you want to check it out yeah yeah you're a photographer you're hanging

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you're hanging out with two Foodies right now yes don't well I'll I'll show you

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um your Instagram yeah so I work for a company that um basically it's it's not

37:22

on my profile but you can look it up you can so the first one is Nature's flavors you can look up Nature's flavors

37:28

and they're located in Orange and they make a lot of like as a whole uh-huh like like holistic

37:35

food like very natural okay everything is all organic and Bill which is the CEO

37:41

of the companies like very much I love that guy he's he's so about his craft and like helping people feel better

37:49

about themselves so all these videos so like that one that that espresso cookie one if you go down a little bit this one

37:55

yeah that one I shot [ __ ] oh wow so like little videos of the cookies we bake everything

38:03

it's it's a pretty simple video something like crazy but the lighting is what really looks good it looks really

38:09

good so you edit it together you slap it together colored a little off see I'm already

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like [Laughter] Instagram sucks they like just lower the

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quality they do right yeah so here's one and then I also work for another company called

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um yum matcha okay

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so this guy believes in his product then very much he he Dives that's like his

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his whole religion is like natural and holistic and what's good for the body

38:42

and that one I did not shoot that one is like a uh an influencer but if you so

38:49

that one that that heart-shaped eyes I I shot recent one right here

38:55

so you got to make everything look like that looks nice it does it makes me want

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to have some I won't watch it now do we have much anywhere right actually there's some samples it's really good

39:08

they they use like um healthy sugars it slips my mind what kind of sugars

39:16

they use but they're great tastes really good it's it's very light

39:21

but still creamy if you put in like some some oat milk it's it's really good it's

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really good I also seen that you I'm like I'm gonna go on this one right yeah that's my photography page that I've

39:32

abandoned so we just met uh RMB oh yeah they made a um open mic we met them with

39:39

like last month actually yeah yeah my boys so funny thing about RMB is that

39:46

Jose we have friends called well they were in a band called The Hollow 45s and

39:53

um it was just just three guys and two of them got married and every like those two weddings we sat next to each other

40:00

so that's all I was saying I got to know each other simply going to our homie's wedding and he's like oh I'm in this

40:05

band called called RMB so we just became friends sick bases they're just a great

40:11

bandage yeah they're great yeah they're so cool yeah they closed down our our show last month oh yeah they're so

40:18

awesome so I got Jose a job at my dispensary that I

40:23

was working at at the time so you know it it it's cool that like I knew him

40:29

through music and then I got to like know him through work so he was like my co-worker at a certain point and then I

40:35

got to photograph them and I think it's Randall or one of them does

40:40

a lot of the graphics for the band and I'm I'm just like super impressed because Randall is your twin girl is it

40:47

yeah he he took it all like next level so they're very talented they're really

40:53

cool and the band is amazing yeah yeah they're they're all pretty cool to

40:59

talk to yeah and he's my he's my twin my long lost twin girl Randall Randall yeah

41:06

we found that out uh there they were dressed the same on on uh on the day yeah we had the same color pants same

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color we did yes did we post it did we have that anymore no I think I could see them

41:20

I went to see if um the group won just the group photo right but we were like

41:25

holding it not holding each other I have one but I love it but I kept seeing I

41:31

didn't know that that guy was there and then I I was like wait what how did he get there and then there and then at

41:37

some point uh Randall kissed his girlfriend you were like wait and I was like what the [ __ ] and I was like look

41:44

then I'm like wait Gil's right next to me okay that's not him and I was like this is your twin I was about to throw

41:50

some hair on my hands oh look they're right here oh cool do

41:56

you see them yeah that's that's awesome like I can't zoom in because I can't zoom out I'm so happy you guys know each

42:02

other that's so cool yeah [Laughter] they were really cool shout out to r b and Jose and Randall and Carlos

42:10

yeah we got to get him on the podcast I know um one of them where they were talking about uh coming and doing this

42:16

but yeah um yeah yeah dude we were looking at that and

42:21

no it was it was just like what the [ __ ] like we just met these guys and and we

42:26

just met you so that was pretty crazy and then especially the story that you're telling

42:31

now about the the wedding yeah we said like two weddings I was like all right so two weddings now now I know him

42:42

how long were you at this dispensary for well I don't know like a year and a half okay

42:48

I kind of hopped around from the Spencer to dispensary because another one of my greatest passions is cannabis so

42:55

um yeah I was fortunate enough to work for like an all-female cannabis dispensary and I learned a lot from them so I do a

43:04

lot of the I I did a lot of marketing for them I did a lot of marketing for all of this so I familiarized myself

43:09

with like you know what you can and cannot post online oh really there's a

43:14

doing don't really absolutely for Instagram oh for Instagram yeah you can get Shadow band

43:20

you can get like get your account deactivated and that's your Source like

43:26

Instagram's like kind of major I don't get it is it is it the same way for a

43:31

cannabis as it is for alcohol almost oh okay almost like similar I

43:38

don't think you can even promote alcohol on Instagram I mean you'll you'll see it but

43:43

it's probably worded very you know a certain way or probably

43:49

and if if they are getting away with it then consider them lucky they they're getting away with it because you can't

43:55

like show certain things you can't like I don't know put a cartoon with alcohol or like oh yeah of course or yeah or you

44:02

can't like show people being like inebriated or like someone like actually smoking a joint on camera you shouldn't

44:09

like it's legally like you can't do that but um according to

44:16

Instagrams just guidelines their guidelines guidelines people will report you if they're like haters they'll just

44:22

find something anything to report you and it'll be valid like yeah you're old nun that try to give you an F

44:29

but you ended up passing the class she's she's like yeah Angie Angie took this picture I'm not going to let this fly

44:37

I don't know no but uh so that's that's I don't know that's super weird

44:43

well as as long as they're trading it similar to alcohol yeah because that

44:49

would that would blow if alcohol kind of had more of lenience with Instagram

44:56

versus cannabis I don't even I agree with you but I haven't I've kind of left that

45:03

side of Instagram for a long time like I I don't even really dive too much in the

45:10

Cannabis industry as much as I used to anymore or even in the in the in the alcohol

45:16

industry like that's kind of something that I would like to dive into simply because I love I love I love alcohol

45:22

why am I gonna lie I I love alcohol I was a bartender at at one point and I

45:27

completely loved it it changed my life it completely taught me about you know Mixology and what goes with what and and

45:35

just simply like being a therapist to people like I love talking to people so it's nice to give them a little drink

45:41

hang out with them I couldn't drink with them at my bar but you know just it was just nice to connect with a stranger and

45:49

not have to be you know drunk you just serve them and you get to know them definitely having some advice and then

45:55

watch them go away that's the good thing that you can just let them you know watch them unless they

46:03

pass them at the bar then that's like what type of bar was it just like a dive

46:09

bar was it I worked at a hotel bar oh okay yeah so I worked in a I worked at a

46:14

Hyatt hotel for like five years and um I started there as like a food Runner one

46:20

of my friends her dad was the head of the food and beverage department so I was like what's up give me a job you know back when I was a teenager food

46:26

Runner a food Runner cool run the food to the guests I know all about that

46:39

I was like you know what on a bartend I I like I like drinking I like drinks I

46:44

like to taste things you like the money and and the money is a great bonus but the money was the last thing that you

46:51

were thinking about well yeah because sometimes it wasn't that great like I would work day shifts and I would only

46:58

take that blow because I wanted to do music so much more oh okay yeah I've

47:03

done a lot of jobs and I've gotten fired from a lot of jobs and I've quit a lot of jobs simply to be able to do music or

47:09

to be able to tour or to be able to like do anything like my life is music yeah I just want to do that but

47:18

it's nice that I get to do another one of my passions which is photography so it's like I'm doing everything that I've

47:23

wanted to do photography by day badass [ __ ] frontman at night front

47:29

woman excuse me I don't want to assume your your gender my bad ladies and

47:35

gentlemen but do you like uh do you like craft beer I love craft beer what you got here we got uh our homies over there

47:43

at ambitious ales in Long Beach California gifted us uh a few flavors

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today we got Berry shower which is a sour blonde

47:56

conditioned on Raspberry puree and Madagascar vanilla beans that's a 7.0

48:02

ABV wow delicious check that out this is my one of my favorites right now Gandalf

48:08

the crisp the pilsner which is the New Zealand style pilsner five percent this

48:14

is really good I had this earlier today with uh my lunch or my dinner my liner

48:19

as Amber calls it uh and uh football shorts West Coast IPA 7.2 ABV so uh what

48:28

do you want to try what do you want to try Amber I'll have whatever you guys don't have

48:34

but what do you like though like what's you know what what I don't know I I'm not a I'm like I

48:42

shouldn't say I'm not a big beer but uh I like something in light I don't like anything too okay the pills in her

48:47

probably the pilsner what you had earlier today Amber or the sour I like the sour I like soccer stuff okay yeah

48:55

I'll take the West Coast happy okay cool thanks guys not a ambitious ales they're

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really cool thank you delicious yeah this is cool right there on Atlantic is

49:08

it Atlantic Boulevard or Avenue thanks Andrew um thank you

49:13

thank you guys thank you ambitious thank you ambitious

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ios's labeling is super cute isn't it awesome it is I love it yeah it's a super cool place Cheers Cheers

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it's delicious I love this oh my God mine is so good yeah if anybody wants to

49:38

try it I have a clean Cup right here yeah this is delicious no likewise I'm I'm good I really love this this is good

49:44

right up my alley cool nice nice thanks guys um yeah it's a it's a pretty cool uh

49:50

Place uh Amber and I actually we one of our first couple dates

49:56

um were in that place cool and Amber how did you how did you manage yeah I know

50:04

but how did you manage to break like three glasses in a span it was like 30 minutes oh I was really really nervous

50:11

and um we were sitting by like the window and he was kind of standing and I was like sitting and I was like nervous

50:17

and I don't know what the [ __ ] possessed me I was not drunk anything and I like

50:23

knocked the glass over the first time and I was like oh my God I'm so sorry so then Gil like cleans it up and then

50:31

he goes and he gets me a new one and then like not even five minutes later I

50:37

knock it over a [ __ ] game like the same way and then after that I was like

50:42

I I don't want to drink and he's like are you sure and I'm like yeah I'm sure and I don't think I drank after that

50:48

because I was so yeah it was a it was a good wow before I took her to any place

50:53

that had alcohol I was like okay she's one of these all right I need to be

50:58

careful where I take this woman let's go how did you guys meet if you guys don't mind me asking we met what

51:04

like about 20 years ago just kidding um no we said 11 years ago we said 11

51:09

yeah I'm like you want the story we tell our family we were doing the math 11 years ago I love that you have to have

51:15

two stories yeah well it's because we we hold on did we have we talked about this

51:21

on the podcast before I don't think so maybe a little bit with uh with um Daniel Punk bug right oh I think he

51:28

might have asked us that's right but we gave him a short version We lied to him on that one oh yeah maybe no just

51:35

kidding Daniel he's listening we met on Facebook and that's why and

51:41

that's why I'm like you want the one we tell our family because you know before we tell the family Facebook no we tell

51:47

the family we met at with like mutual friends but it was really Facebook through Facebook yeah

51:53

but before you know it was something that you didn't like now it's like I think everybody meets each other on

51:59

social media yeah and by Facebook she means like Plenty of Fish or something no it was not a dating site it was

52:05

cheese Spa no we met through there and then we talked for a while and then um he came

52:12

to meet me and yeah we talked and talked and then we kind of like parted ways

52:19

after that and then it was parted ways for 10 years no we parted ways for like seven years seven years for seven years

52:27

yeah and then we reconnected in 2019 18.

52:33

18 yeah 18. damn girl knows more he's like I know

52:39

keep drinking the ambitious ales and my memory comes back comes back to you yeah

52:46

there's no cups over there right because there's a lot of cables on the floor right now so please don't no no okay

52:51

again all right don't get nervous okay I will it's okay the last time she had

52:56

this she was a mess I was knocking cups over I broke the cups that's oops they got plenty of

53:04

Cups no but uh since then I don't know we kind of just been a great [ __ ]

53:10

team yeah it seems like it when she hit me she's like yeah my boyfriend had this thing I was like that's sick

53:18

well thanks yeah dude thank you guys but um yeah ambitious sales cool place I

53:24

mean we had uh what other places did we go to in Long Beach hang on Long Beach uh where do you hang out

53:32

well when you're not [ __ ] taking badass pictures being in a cool ass band

53:37

singing dancing acting in Disney movies like what I'm at home I'm like I'm

53:43

[ __ ] tired what's your guilty pleasure like what's your like just veg out moment what do you like to

53:51

do what do I like to do watch The Moment of Truth what do I like

53:58

to do I like to smoke weeds smoke weed and

54:05

turn off for a second like oh okay I like to just like so I have like a really I have a I have a porch at my my

54:13

house and if I'm there during the day I like to just smoke and just breathe for a second and like ground myself somehow

54:19

or if it's at night I like to eat I like to eat and smoke weed and watch TV and just

54:27

chill out for a second because it gets it gets a little overwhelming

54:32

like I love what I do with a burning passion and I feel like you know I

54:38

I work a lot for it I I'm like on top of everything and there's there's moments

54:46

where I just feel like hey you know I think I think I've done enough for today I need to just kind of take it

54:52

easy for a moment and just relax or like I don't know sleep okay so

54:58

I like to sleep I like to just chill out when I'm not you know working or trying

55:04

to come up with a song but yeah I guess I would say like every day what I like to do is

55:11

write a song I would just try to come up with something and if not then you usually catch me at home sleeping resting trying

55:18

to catch up on I don't know some murder mystery on Netflix

55:24

catching upon all the true crime or nukes top five on YouTube do you guys watch nukes no no dude is it it's a top

55:32

five it's a top five so basically nukes top five is a series that has a lot of

55:38

like hauntings you know like like haunted stuff so like uh pull it up yeah

55:43

you should just pull it up this is this would be my guilty pleasure like anything like horror or like murder

55:51

mystery or like yeah this that's that's my jam

55:56

nuke stop fire so they show a lot of like scary ghost

56:01

videos or like experiences that people have have had like real experiences and

56:06

I guess it's like extra extra scary for me because my dad was always very you know like

56:11

into religion and very much like oh there's a correlation right there Amber

56:18

do you get that the correlation between religion like being like growing up in a

56:24

religious family and having them tell you like certain things are you know

56:29

yeah and you that gets conditioned in your brain it does it so does my dad

56:36

would tell me all these like terrifying stories but like this stuff is

56:42

just it sometimes I'm like mad that's that's that's that's fake but there's some things in there that I'm like holy

56:48

[ __ ] like will scare me do you watch them at night yeah oh [ __ ] yeah they're

56:54

better at night right I like to get I I enjoy it I like to enjoy the like the

56:59

rush of like oh [ __ ] Leo loves to watch scary [ __ ] before we go to bed it's like

57:04

no this is like real [ __ ] so you'll be like oh it's real okay like the other

57:09

the other part the other day we watched uh Carey uh-huh before I'm gonna laugh

57:16

at you right yeah and uh what other one was it oh we tried

57:21

to watch hereditary and I was like I know I'm gonna watch it in the day oh I already asked her dude Ari Astor is a

57:28

very he's his style of just film and the

57:33

way he directs a movie is awesome that hereditary and mid-summer oh I started

57:42

watching that and I think I fell asleep what I'm I'm just really bad at watching

57:47

movies I'm I like if I lay down or if I like sit down I'm like

57:54

okay I mean considering the top five except this like when this is on I'm like okay I I I can't sleep because I

58:01

was gonna say I was like you do you can do a top five but you can't do a top ten because if you switch on the top ten you

58:07

you know that's too long for me five is good five is awesome and they vary because

58:13

sometimes they're yeah they're like 45 minutes long or 40 and some of them are like really short and I'm like what the

58:19

hell I waited three weeks for this damn he doesn't have a like a set schedule but when he does post we get the

58:25

notification so so it's like it's our thing so my boyfriend and I this is our like Bonnie moment or our

58:31

time to be like hey did you hear there's a new nukes top five that's awesome so

58:36

we're watching it tonight right yeah all right cool so Ari has this awesome cool

58:43

um scene in mid-summer that is just which one probably the the most like

58:49

okay so you know how like when people trip on psychedelics in movies like it sometimes it's um it to me it feels like

58:57

it's unrealistic like in the movie have you done psychedelics before I have okay

59:02

so there there's uh there there's this uh experience in this imagery in your

59:07

head when you're looking at different images or you're looking at the world and it sometimes it it's distorted in

59:15

other movies like in other in movies like it's distorted people are laughing

59:21

like really tripping out but not like really like what actually happened exactly it's like exaggerated yeah

59:27

exactly but Ari's depiction of somebody tripping on magic mushrooms in

59:34

mid-summer is probably the closest thing the closest real thing that I can that I

59:42

can imagine that somebody would be on mushrooms in a movie that's pretty cool yeah I gotta stay

59:50

gotta stay up more often see so did you fall asleep during

59:56

mid-summer or hereditary Midsummer I I never saw her hereditary is that is how

1:00:02

you call it hereditary yeah I never saw that but I did see mid-summer mid-summer

1:00:07

yeah and I knocked out see yeah okay so let's see if we it won't ruin any of the movie for you but yeah yeah it's just

1:00:14

mid-summer's a little slow like it it begins off probably why because yeah I

1:00:20

don't know Amber if you can if you can relate to this but I you know boyfriend's there and then I start like

1:00:25

yeah getting all closed and you're all snuggled during like like a cat I'm like you're like but how I mean how we like

1:00:31

to I like to say I feel like um like a cinnamon roll oh [Laughter]

1:00:44

you feel like a cinnamon roll you look like one you smell like one

1:00:49

um no it's yummy okay so this part or no no no no but how would you fall asleep with it when the the that's right

1:00:56

because I'll start that's right I remember that

1:01:02

I don't know I just I just just put magic mushroom scene I'm just tired

1:01:09

really like the the sister freaking murders the whole family and he fell asleep during that maybe a little before

1:01:15

that there we go true yeah like a bad trip what the most realistic trippy wow I don't

1:01:22

think I looked like a bad dream no I'm gonna have to rewatch this obviously this person hasn't had magic mushrooms

1:01:28

because I feel like this is incorrect okay oh no this is just the the trailer

1:01:34

right the trailer you know I I will say I've never like fully like

1:01:40

submerged myself in psychedelics unfortunately I've taken a whole eighth and I haven't like felt that like

1:01:47

Enlightenment experience for me every time I take shrooms it's my

1:01:55

name is Ari it just kind of wakes me up to be like this is silly like whatever I'm like thinking in my head or whatever

1:02:01

I'm like nervous about or worried about I just I'm just like this is silly that's that's dumb like the world is so

1:02:08

big there's so many things going on like that's just so dumb of me so it makes you like more reflect yeah okay I've

1:02:14

never really been like whoa like suddenly I know the key to life like I

1:02:19

just I'm always like well that's funny you need more I gotta

1:02:25

get you more yeah I guess that's two ways like a quarter I guess so like every time I tried it in a tea I tried

1:02:32

it in chocolate I tried just you know just a natural oh there we go nothing

1:02:39

check this out I think he's explaining though is he yeah there's not one word sexual she

1:02:46

recently suffered a very very serious loss and is probably not in the best place to take psychotropic drugs can you

1:02:55

feel that the energy coming up from the Earth a big challenge that we took on in this

1:03:01

film was putting the spectator into the experience of somebody going through a mushroom trip this is the first scene

1:03:08

that kind of introduces psychedelic elements is this Ari talking be more prevalent later on look

1:03:15

trees too they're breathing there's a lot of sound design work here that's also helping bring us

1:03:23

into her subjectivity when she looks up at the tree we notice that the tree now

1:03:29

seems to be bending and warping that the texture seems to be moving as I was working with the visual effects artists

1:03:36

on these shots we managed to experiment a lot and find what was too much and what was not enough you guys are like my

1:03:43

family family I would say that some of these oh you see the grass behind her head versions of How It's like warping a

1:03:50

little bit Danny is thrown instantly into a bad trip

1:03:57

uh I'm gonna go for a walk and from here we kind of enter this

1:04:05

negative vortex [Music]

1:04:10

I don't think that [Music] he's almost [Music]

1:04:16

where we start playing with facial warping you know warping Expressions

1:04:21

this effect was especially difficult to accomplish and so a big part of my job I

1:04:27

remember this scene editorial team was actually to be merciless in the way we

1:04:33

watched these effects as they came in I guess it's like like what Gil's saying

1:04:39

like it's more like it's not just colors and you know like how they do like when

1:04:44

like he said like when yeah like pink elephant type of [ __ ] yeah yeah it's more realistic I mean that's what I've

1:04:52

been told [Laughter] but I've been told yeah

1:04:57

that's my friend that's what I read on uh Wikipedia

1:05:03

that's what a hero says but um yeah I mean this I encourage everybody what

1:05:09

this is It's a just a really good movie and um that scene is probably the closest

1:05:16

thing that I mean if if anybody is like considering even doing any type of

1:05:22

psycho psychedelic like to me that movie depict like Ari asked her uh the

1:05:28

director he he shows it really well yeah and I guess he said at the

1:05:34

beginning of this video right that he wanted to make it as close as possible yeah pretty cool yeah you should check

1:05:42

out the movie dude I think that's always like the first thing I noticed is like the colors like every they're just the

1:05:47

breathing yeah like I feel like I'm breathing everything is breathing like

1:05:52

everything breathes everything has its own like

1:05:57

electricity I guess I would say like its own its own energy you know so but it's I don't I

1:06:07

don't do psychedelics all the time it's actually quite rare that I do do them but the few times that I have I've

1:06:12

always just been like wow though that's dumb of me

1:06:18

so my new like what the heck yeah it definitely pulls you out of yourself and

1:06:25

shows you you yeah or I or your situation yeah yeah I've also like

1:06:33

like I have I have two dogs I have Sophia and I have another dog named Lulu but Lulu's like a little older she's

1:06:39

like 18 but um it's it's hard to take her out but I had

1:06:45

this moment with her where I was like crying over and I was like I was just thinking about like

1:06:51

our years together and I just felt like I was kind of talking to her like hey

1:06:57

like you know we've been together through so much like I hope you're comfortable I

1:07:02

hope while you're tripping yeah like yeah just like while I was tripping I just came up to my dog and I was like

1:07:08

trying to like I don't know hope to connect with my dog like hey

1:07:13

like I hope you're okay because my dog's so old now and she's been with me through so many traumatic experiences in

1:07:22

my life that have taught me so much that I'm just like I hope I can give back to you for being there for me through so

1:07:29

much it's like these dogs are just like little angels that are just placing Our Lives to

1:07:36

guide us and protect us and somehow like bring a little bit of joy so I'm just like I hope I hope you lived

1:07:43

a good life and I hope you're happy yeah see and then I think that that's the common misconception when people think

1:07:49

of like psychedelics like they think you're just like laying on the floor or like again like the colors dude trying to

1:07:57

yeah you know the colors bro the walls are melting and I feel like it's like the total opposite like you're you're

1:08:04

sharp you're I'ma jump off the bridge or I'm gonna jump out the window like come

1:08:09

on dude that's not it's like you're sharp you're I feel like I'm like or what I've been told is that you feel

1:08:15

smarter no well it's it's all natural right like it comes from the earth it's just simply a little bit older and it's

1:08:22

dried out but it's all natural it's not like I mean I hope people aren't adding some extra something to it but it's like

1:08:29

you know it's natural it's God's gift I don't know depending on whatever you believe in it just comes from the Earth

1:08:35

so yeah it's like this is coming from the earth like it's it's grown and when

1:08:42

we digest it it shows us things or it I mean basically

1:08:47

it's the same relationship like we have with food like some food give us gives us energy some drink gives us energy

1:08:54

some you know natural food gives us nutrients and when you eat these mushrooms they give you their way of of

1:09:02

nutrients they give you you know some sort of um you know Insight on their own biology

1:09:08

yeah yeah you know what I have a really cool friend that you should talk to her name is aixa and she actually has this

1:09:15

Instagram called her Instagram is Magic Amor and she um grows mushrooms and is

1:09:23

like a not a therapist per se but aren't all

1:09:30

our friends no that's not that it's I might be following her so maybe if you go through my followers you might be

1:09:35

able to find her but she's great she grows everything herself it's it's all natural and it's really

1:09:43

good she's very much about all the good things that life has to offer

1:09:50

oh it's it's weird oh it's not gonna let you yeah no it doesn't let me do it but just

1:09:55

send it to the sleep I'll have to send it to you yes yeah she's she's great I think you guys should totally have her oh totally have her on here and like

1:10:01

yeah send her a message or yeah we'll we'll connect with her right here yeah of

1:10:08

course do you think um like will you ever use like psychedelics like just to

1:10:13

help with like creativity or does like just like smoking weed ever help you like with creativity or writing or music

1:10:20

or anything like that um or do you usually just like plan all of that and you're pretty much like

1:10:26

sober it yes and no I I guess for for me to be

1:10:34

creative I just I don't know it just kind of happens like I just sit down and all right what am I feeling today or

1:10:39

like what I want to do today or like what do I have stuck in my head I try to not give myself too many rules because I

1:10:46

feel like if I give myself like a box to live in you're gonna live in that box yeah and I

1:10:52

don't think I'm someone that can be contained in a sense where like my head is all over the place I want to do it oh

1:10:59

there's so many things I like to do I'm not a one trick kind of pony like I just I don't know I'm curious about things

1:11:05

and there's nothing you can't do if you're not setting your mind you can

1:11:11

do anything you know like anything that you can think of you can look it up you can learn about it there's always room

1:11:17

for that so I think um yeah that's what usually helps me but

1:11:23

cannabis and and and Magic shrooms are mainly just to relax or take a deeper

1:11:30

dive inside myself and be like what am I what am I hung up about that I'm suddenly realized is just silly and

1:11:39

I need to let go of in order to become the best version of myself yeah yeah

1:11:45

so so you're using them in in a good you know sense right you you have the

1:11:51

attention um I mean you're using them as a tool always it's special I think that's what

1:11:58

that's what we're in in my culture I just I just found out not too long ago you know because I've

1:12:03

kind of detached from my family that my ancestors are from from nayari they're

1:12:10

actually a tribe called quora and um we're like I've got a half half which

1:12:15

all so they you know do a lot of things with the Peyote and they oh really yeah so my grandma came down and was like

1:12:21

telling me about you know how she trekked it all the way to have some people and I was like wow what yeah so

1:12:27

like that's all very sacred I don't know I I feel like if you're gonna do something like that it's like

1:12:32

set an intention and think about ways you're trying to progress within

1:12:39

yourself or ways you can you know become a higher level of

1:12:45

yourself to teach yourself something new to to open a door you didn't know was there because like that's what life is

1:12:52

about evolving and growing and seeing what else you can pick up along the way and just being open to that yeah yeah

1:12:59

that's [ __ ] awesome dude yeah well uh was the last time you tripped

1:13:05

has been oh my God every weekend

1:13:13

I'm actually I'm gonna Amber I'm gonna go look at what's uh why we got that notification so yeah no problem

1:13:21

should I just no no keep going keep going oh I'm still talking to you let's see the last time I tripped

1:13:29

um I can't remember if I was on a trip last time I tripped like an actual trip with

1:13:36

my friends or but I remember no no no no so the last

1:13:44

time I tripped um okay I didn't actually set an intention this was like the one

1:13:51

time that I was just like yeah right let's let's just have some fun let's just see where it's at so this

1:13:56

is um my boyfriend and I started dating around this time and

1:14:02

we had this like chocolate that my friend aixa um magic Amor gave us and

1:14:11

I had a bite of half of it and he had a bite of half of it and then we jumped in the car we're like all right we gotta go run in there and hurry hurry we're

1:14:18

actually going to his dad's house so it was kind of scary because his dad

1:14:24

you know had some kind of emergency and we're like don't worry we'll be there but we totally forgot that we had eaten

1:14:29

this chocolate mushroom so we're there right and we're like trying to help him out with his medication and just just

1:14:35

kind of like guiding him and my boyfriend just kind of like walks out and is like I can't do this

1:14:43

and uh we we don't we don't we don't drive at this point because we actually were lucky enough to have a friend

1:14:49

driving with us in the back because she kind of guided us yeah but um you know it kind of started

1:14:55

to hit and he was like I can't do this and I was like very relaxed I was just kind of like

1:15:01

we came here on a mission just relax and if you need to go outside go ahead I will handle it so there I am

1:15:08

like tripping like feeling all these like you know yeah but I'm you know but

1:15:13

I'm but I'm still very much present and I'm like okay hey what's the number of this person that we need to contact in the morning to let them know that you're

1:15:19

not coming into work or you know we're just we're just kind of like helping him out and like

1:15:25

yeah but uh I'd say that was the last time it happened and we didn't Peak until we got home which is oh that's

1:15:32

great so the minute we got home we were able to just like relax we sat on the couch and we didn't turn on any lights

1:15:39

we just we just sat on the couch and we just talked for hours right it was just

1:15:45

my boyfriend and I just talking about things crying yep laughing you know just just

1:15:52

the usual things that come up in life that were like oh yeah you know this one time in my life doesn't this happen

1:15:58

and you know just I think you cry and then you laugh you cry you laugh yeah

1:16:03

you're like I think I think like for me it it really um matters like who who

1:16:09

like do it with um because I I it's the same like I

1:16:15

think it puts you in a really vulnerable state right because you laugh you cry you you know hash things out and all

1:16:22

that and I feel like it's not or at least for me it's not a party thing like I can't go and be in a big setting with

1:16:30

people it's too much like yeah I definitely understand I just want to chill I just want to be somewhere listen

1:16:37

do some nice music if I feel like it or just be in Silence with my thoughts and

1:16:42

just like I don't know yeah just put yourself in a comfy place I'm just like

1:16:49

have you heard of the stone deep Theory no what is that about how uh

1:16:54

Terence McKenna speculates uh that our uh our ancestors uh how they they

1:17:04

came from the trees that were uh tree dwelling monkeys how they came from the trees and uh they were essentially like

1:17:12

they were looking for food so they would find this cow dung and on the cow dung

1:17:18

there would be mushrooms that were growing from the cow dung so

1:17:24

they would eat the mushrooms you know over time and it grew their uh frontal

1:17:29

lobe which is the the front part of your brain right it it I think I don't I

1:17:35

can't remember how large it grew but it grew like double the size you know over time well they

1:17:42

had this uh diet of magic mushrooms wow yeah they're probably like

1:17:48

cracking open their minds and yeah all sorts of ways so from there uh from there they would trip and that would

1:17:54

make them better Hunters that would make them uh better lovers meaning that they

1:18:00

would multiply a lot faster especially with the different uh change in genome

1:18:06

so their offspring grew uh like they would be born with larger brains as well

1:18:11

yeah and then even um just the the Advent they invented

1:18:17

language from uh from uh psilocybin mushrooms wow

1:18:23

yeah I mean it's amazing where these mushrooms grow

1:18:28

and how fast they grow and like all the benefits that come with them not just psychedelic mushrooms but even like

1:18:35

mushrooms in general mushrooms in general like rice made yeah she's talking all good

1:18:44

um my my friend MO has a little restaurant called elongo it's another thing you guys should check out but him

1:18:52

and aixa both work with like mushrooms oh okay psychedelic and non-psychedelic really yeah he's like has this like

1:18:58

vegan kind of thing going but with mushrooms because there's so many benefits with that and it's just like so

1:19:04

good for you in so many ways yeah you can make drinks out of it you can make beverages out of it it can be like your

1:19:11

main course in your meal um I know there's this thing called the mud water that has like it has like I've

1:19:17

heard of that have you heard of it it's like there's like five different types of of mushrooms in well I think Amber we

1:19:24

had it the other day like last week your sister had some oh yeah yeah that's right it was awesome it was really good

1:19:31

yeah I mean uh the I think because we were so like we're so used to drinking a

1:19:37

lot of caffeine in the morning that way like it was like really different I

1:19:42

don't know caffeine is uh this is the mushroom coffee it's it's a caffeine is addicting it is it's very acidic too

1:19:50

like I'm yeah are you a coffee drinker uh sometimes yeah I was like a very big

1:19:58

tea fan and then I went away from tea and got into coffee and then back to teas I'm kind of both

1:20:05

coffee is just it helps when you haven't had it for a long time and you really want to wake up it helps yeah but yeah

1:20:12

and but I I like it like rich like I like like espresso I like like

1:20:18

americanos yeah just the the cold brew so you like coffee you don't like sugar

1:20:23

yeah you know like a big large 32 ounce of sugar that's how we are we like like

1:20:31

the real taste yeah no I like I like coffee like black coffee like that

1:20:36

bitter dirt yeah yeah I don't know why I just no we're the same like I like ipas

1:20:42

bitter I like wine like red wine bitter like the less sweet it is the better for

1:20:48

me personally but yeah what was your what was your you good

1:20:54

yeah I got all excited uh what was your favorite thing to make

1:21:00

when you're a bartender how are you on time by the way I'm okay I'm chilling you're chilling I'm awful I'm working

1:21:05

you're good I'm chilling you're gonna hang out with us yeah totally yeah all right so what was the question uh

1:21:12

bartending bartending what was my favorite cocktail yeah um

1:21:20

not to drink to make to make I guess I would say

1:21:27

I like a lot of things I just I like old-fashions mainly because I

1:21:33

love old-fashioned yeah kind of bourbon what do you like to what bourbon do you like to drink with your old fashioned

1:21:39

okay um

1:21:46

don't worry what's it called there was Templeton Rye

1:21:53

I love Templeton right yeah I can see the bottle yeah I can see the bottle you know what I mean it's like it's it's

1:22:00

I like it number one because you go to liquor store and it's not like the most expensive thing but it's like it's all

1:22:06

right you'll find it for like 24 or 25 bucks somewhere you know so it's like a happy medium I feel like you're not like

1:22:12

quite at 30 but you're like yeah it's a good one um it's not too sweet it's smooth I can

1:22:20

drink that on the rocks or just knee um but

1:22:26

it it just kind of depends on who I'm serving so like if someone likes it

1:22:31

sweet I would go for like a Four Roses Bourbon okay and I like that because that's distilled in port wine barrel so

1:22:37

that's what makes it sweet and um yeah it's just tasting and with the the

1:22:43

rocky just let it down a little bit but it's just it's fun because it goes way back like an old-fashioned is like a

1:22:49

classic real prohibition type of drink it's one that they started creating because you

1:22:56

couldn't drink alcohol but you want to make it tasty so there's a cherry there's an orange boom some sugar some

1:23:02

Bitters and then just the whole idea of like a fruit having

1:23:08

um you know like a chemical that makes the drink right smell in certain ways

1:23:13

like another element what kind of cherry well to garnish bourbon

1:23:20

Suburban cherry and to put it inside my bar had maraschino cherries it just

1:23:26

kind of depends on the person so okay I personally like the bourbon cherries a little bit better isn't it like a true

1:23:33

classic is made with the black cherry bourbon Cherry bourbon Cherry it's just a

1:23:38

maraschino cherry that has been like submerged in whiskey for a period of

1:23:44

time that's all it is that's a bourbon Cherry it's still a maraschino cherry it's just I I think it is

1:23:51

we should Google that I like we can yeah it makes sense that

1:23:57

it would be like steeped in the bourbon for like days yeah yeah you would like yeah kind of like leave it there to

1:24:04

marinate for a little bit and then pull it out exactly oh okay now we're talking my

1:24:10

language yeah like what kind of cherry is used for a bourbon cherry

1:24:16

what is a bourbon bourbon Cherry it's gonna give you like

1:24:21

you know the whiskey options yeah but at my bar we mainly had like Maker's

1:24:28

Mark um what's that turkey one

1:24:34

wild turkey wow yeah wild turkey for for roses

1:24:39

yeah see it's a maraschino cherry soaked in Bourbon yeah see

1:24:45

um yeah so it's just a regular a black chair it was like a I think there are black different right

1:24:53

like yeah okay I think so they probably change in color when it's like color merged in though yeah but there so

1:24:59

there's there's not like a specific fruit named black cherry there is a black cherry okay yeah there is like a

1:25:05

black cherry but this is a bourbon cherry and a bourbon cherries soaked in okay instead of putting it in

1:25:13

in like cherry juice like that like yeah sugar cherry juice you put it in Bourbon

1:25:19

okay yeah you just let it like kind of soak up the juices there we go I started getting into

1:25:25

um to Old Fashions and whiskey after watching Mad Men really yeah what did it

1:25:32

just make you like crave it Don Draper just but he every time he went for his

1:25:37

his liquor cabinet would make a drink and I'm like I need an old-fashioned yeah suddenly like suddenly suddenly

1:25:47

yeah Angie so what's what's next for you like what I mean you've mastered music

1:25:54

acting and photography I mean I mean you're pretty good at it what what's

1:25:59

like your next thing that you want to learn or maybe try to do well

1:26:07

um I'm like in the process of like trying to learn the saxophone oh really yeah the saxophone the alto okay yeah

1:26:14

cool the alto um I had a friend that gave me a sax on one condition it was a

1:26:20

beautiful vintage saxophone he's like I'll give it to you you gotta learn it though I was like all right

1:26:26

and then covet happened so I like had a homie who has a friend that

1:26:31

actually teaches saxophone and he kind of gave me some Zoom lessons and you

1:26:36

know it was it was fun but I would like to get back into that I think right now I'm just um

1:26:44

I'm I'm just learning I'm just kind of forever the student I'm with this with this new band that I'm

1:26:51

like currently writing with it's um it's been a challenge because yes I am a

1:26:57

Latina yes I speak Spanish but it's a whole different thing to write in

1:27:02

Spanish and although I've written a few songs in Spanish what's the difference well there's like they fit more

1:27:09

syllables

1:27:15

you can give me like a sweet little 8 to 16 bar song right and I could

1:27:22

probably figure out two or three different melodies for it

1:27:28

now trying to fit words into those Melodies is another thing so like

1:27:34

sometimes you can rhyme with a song Sometimes you cannot sometimes you can

1:27:40

so I'm really trying to figure out how to say what I mean without actually saying what I mean but also you know

1:27:47

like finding the words that fit into that and I don't know if you can relate you know you said you were a no solo kid

1:27:54

I feel like it sounds like a lot of syllables yeah I'm just totally hard I

1:27:59

mean I although like I said although I was raised the way I was I went to a lot of private schools which means I was

1:28:05

raised with a lot of like white kids and there's nothing wrong with that but

1:28:11

it's a different world it really is and there's nothing like I said there's nothing wrong with that it's just you

1:28:17

you learn to kind of like see it from another perspective

1:28:22

like I just it's just different they're raised differently everyone is raised

1:28:28

differently every culture is raised differently so you kind of learn from here and there and you like take from

1:28:34

that so I'm just I'm like a lot of things in one so I try

1:28:40

to like figure out a way to like incorporate all sorts of things and learn from all sorts of things and just

1:28:46

kind of um I don't I don't know if I'm like getting to a point here but just basically like

1:28:55

trying to go with the flow of what I've learned and and and and where I'm at in my life because there's lots of things

1:29:01

that I learned being from all sorts of people being from from high school up to

1:29:06

now does does that make sense kind of like yeah that makes sense take inspiration from a lot of things that are around me

1:29:13

yeah a lot of things that I've learned being from Catholic School to Hispanic upbringing

1:29:18

to you know I used to like take care of like

1:29:25

um senior Indian people that also taught me a lot of things about their rich rich

1:29:30

culture they're just like such amazing art and such amazing things that

1:29:36

come from their culture too and I'm just always like in awe like I find myself like wanting to be a part of that or

1:29:42

like even like you know like Filipinos have such a rich culture as

1:29:48

well and I've learned so much from them as well like I have friends that are Filipinos I'm like wanting to dive into

1:29:53

the world and wanting to somehow incorporate that into what I do yeah yeah that makes total sense like where

1:30:00

where would yeah like you were talking about like you pull your inspiration from

1:30:06

every age of Angie in every stage vangie and like where would you I mean

1:30:12

where where else will you put pull information from you know like I mean

1:30:17

pull inspiration from like it has to be like from your experience yeah yeah

1:30:23

and that's why I feel like music is so special because

1:30:28

at least like the things that I'm writing and are are not like it's not just a song it's an experience it's like

1:30:36

something that actually happened to me and it's so vulnerable because I'm like

1:30:42

on stage as happy as it sounds I'm like singing about stuff that like really

1:30:47

happened or that yeah that really matter that really mattered or just yeah

1:30:53

yeah totally so did you write love me too yeah you wrote that one yes I did okay

1:31:00

yeah where are you laughing did I miss something no okay well yeah

1:31:07

um I would love me too uh love me too

1:31:12

yeah it's just a it's just based on Spotify by the way it is on Spotify listen to it right now if you're curious

1:31:18

and then come back and then come back to this but let me do is just

1:31:24

like you know about like being excited about somebody and like just having it kind of

1:31:31

all go to [ __ ] and just be like hey I can't save you but the only thing I can hope is that someday you'd love me as

1:31:37

much as I love you that's basically what the song is about like I hope that someday you could love

1:31:43

me as much as I love you like regardless of the [ __ ] and everything you throw at me like I hope you know that like

1:31:49

I love you and this is real and like I hope you can see that and I hope you could like love me the same way pretty

1:31:56

much dang dude yeah and I have a single coming out this Friday I've been like doing the countdown I'm sure you guys

1:32:03

have been yeah seeing me watching work my ass off waiting stupid reels crying

1:32:08

hoping [Laughter] but um yeah so this next song

1:32:15

um awful thing is you know it's I wrote it on Instagram that it's a song

1:32:20

about sticking up for yourself and like knowing your self-worth because it's

1:32:26

about like someone telling you something really mean and the first lyric is like what an awful thing to say when you just

1:32:33

won't get your way but there was the thing I could do I was so in love with you you know like it was like

1:32:38

like regardless of all the [ __ ] you put me through like I still love you but

1:32:43

also like baby you're a mess and I'm depressed but you don't deserve me my Sunday Best you

1:32:49

know it's kind of it's like that kind of thing so this is another very vulnerable song and funny enough this song was like

1:32:56

a throwaway song really yeah the boys didn't want to play they're like it sounds like everything else I'm like

1:33:02

[Laughter] so um no I was like no no and then Eddie

1:33:08

helped me to write the bridge so he is the one that actually shreds on the solo for this song oh really oh that's cool

1:33:14

yeah amazing [ __ ] amazing and he's a very good guitar player I follow him too yeah

1:33:21

it is all the musicians that I work with are literally my heroes like I've hand-picked these guys because they're

1:33:29

my personal Heroes like oh I've watched Bobby for years drum for all these sick

1:33:34

ass bands really yeah he's been on tour several times he's done a lot seen a lot

1:33:40

was a bouncer for a strip club at some point tell us all his videos yeah he's

1:33:46

cool but uh yeah everybody's awesome but yeah like that's that's how personal

1:33:51

these songs are you know they're very it's a real experience from the first song of the album which is Crying by the

1:33:58

way the album's gonna be coming out March 17th there we go dude I and I was

1:34:04

gonna ask you to like okay you you're gonna have a single out coming on Friday but are you guys so you are working on

1:34:10

uh uh yeah album yeah so we've already finished recording that album it's been

1:34:16

a long time coming oh and like I've talked before it's like we recorded this with several people we've grown along

1:34:23

the way so we've like I don't know we've just added extra things to it we've like played it live

1:34:29

several times we're like okay well now that we you know know how the song really really is from front to back back

1:34:35

to front you know to whatever you know now we know what we want to add or we want it to sound like on the album and

1:34:43

um it's very raw the first album is very raw it's recorded with a bunch of 60s instruments and 60s microphones and like

1:34:50

so it's very like oh that's awesome time period it's very it's true to its sound there's probably like a little bit of

1:34:57

Reverb and a little bit of slapback but it's all instruments it's not like extra whatever it's very classic yeah

1:35:05

um but yeah it should be coming out March 17th and we're hoping to have a

1:35:10

record release show on that same day I'm not sure where quite yet but we're still kind of picking out the bands and we're

1:35:17

hoping to promote for like a good amount of time damn dude make it

1:35:22

a prom themed oh really yeah well yeah I mean we're like you know 50s 60s kind of

1:35:29

thing yeah and it's freaking cool yeah and like we're kind of thinking like you know the movie

1:35:34

um what's that one's like Reggie what's it called exactly so we wanted to make a you know

1:35:41

how they're in there like yeah balloons [ __ ] awesome dude so yeah we want to

1:35:47

make it like that like we're like a problem where you come in you get a photo I like want to make corsages for

1:35:53

people and like roses that guys can like put on you know depending on ticket sales where like people can really have

1:36:00

the experience and also like [ __ ] rock out and some sick ass music yeah just like have fun do you think um like

1:36:07

obviously like Gil and I are very into and I think that's something that kind of brought us together is we're very

1:36:13

into like 50s 60s 70s music it's cool and fashion I'll be quiet

1:36:20

I mean we are you know but not all of our generation is into that like what ha

1:36:26

like have you always been into it and like the rest of the guys or like how does how did that happen and and what do

1:36:32

you think do you think your music will bring like that whole genre to a new

1:36:38

generation where do I begin

1:36:43

well I feel like there is a very big underground scene

1:36:49

going on and they're always about the like 60s like for sure for sure the 60s the garage 60s is like always driving

1:36:56

but everything comes in Cycles like the 70s Glam is like right now in like

1:37:03

that's really great like the 70s pop rock is like in right now but it just

1:37:08

depends where you're at because also the soul thing is popping off yeah so I don't really know if we're really gonna

1:37:14

bring that back but I'm just playing what I like I'm just playing

1:37:21

chords that I put together if it sounds a certain way it's because the guys make it sound a certain way because my boys

1:37:27

like they also like that stuff like Bobby is very heavy on the like

1:37:34

retro old sounding 50 60s strictly he doesn't do anything other than that it's

1:37:40

all like his his dream was to have a 60s Beat Band and when I was like Yo dude I got

1:37:47

some songs you want to jam and he said yes I was like really so he makes his sound B he makes a sound the way you

1:37:54

know it's all in the playing David is also a very big Buddy Holly fan a very

1:38:00

big Beatles fan and Eddie is a very big Beach Boys very big Beatles fan Carlos

1:38:06

likes like a lot of like pup like like pop punk um

1:38:11

you know like My Chemical Romance but also is very like influenced by the soul scene and all that so we have a good mix

1:38:19

going on I I I'd say we we all like that the 50s and the 60s and like the

1:38:25

like old nostalgic kind of feel yeah yeah that's like when I first heard

1:38:30

you guys that was the [ __ ] that was like the thing that like I said like I was talking to you about the top of this

1:38:38

um how like when you guys did that four to five P I think it was four or five yeah

1:38:44

five we didn't have David yeah it was four it was four of us okay so it was

1:38:50

David it was a it was a four piece Harmony on on that part and I was just like whoa

1:38:55

dude it's a whole other ball game like playing and singing It's like crazy it's

1:39:02

it's just it's hard I think I think I told you that girl I was like I don't know how people sing and play like at

1:39:09

the same time I can barely walk inside yeah I know I'm like I can't it's hard and you're you're like coordinated and

1:39:16

it's not so dance yeah exactly you guys still like [ __ ] it's how it's prac

1:39:22

number one practice okay number two like I don't know you just you get so used to

1:39:27

it and you get so like it's just fun like overall I never want to fake fake it

1:39:34

like I just I always want to have fun I always want to be true to what I feel

1:39:40

and how I feel and yeah like if the music moves you go

1:39:46

ahead and dance if it doesn't I that's fine it's totally cool everyone feels their own way and I respect that

1:39:52

completely but yeah if I'm if you see me wiggling up there I'm literally just like

1:39:58

having a good time out there I'm just having fun like I said it's a it's a privilege it's a privilege to be able to

1:40:04

to do that up there and to like have people like watch I don't know because it's scary

1:40:09

but it's also like yeah fun it's exhilarating yeah being up there having people watching oh yeah well you're doing

1:40:16

something scary it's like I don't know I mean I just told you like new nukes top five kind of like gives me like

1:40:22

being scared to play and like being up there playing I'm like but I think I mean a normal person like

1:40:29

a normal person right I mean what does that mean I know I'm like hold on wait just a normal person that doesn't

1:40:36

that doesn't you know show their vulnerability in front of an audience is

1:40:42

what I'm saying a person that doesn't do that thinks that what you do on stage is

1:40:48

terrifying because sometimes it is it can be right I don't even know anymore I feel

1:40:54

like I've heard so many different perspectives on like what what do people think because I know one side people are

1:41:01

like whatever like it's easy they suck they're saying anything and I know this

1:41:07

because like I've been in another band and my ex-bandmate like saw this other band and was like

1:41:14

you know would like come back to practice and like be like oh that'd be like oh okay yeah like really huh cool all

1:41:22

right you know so I I kind of got left with that idea in my head that like oh you

1:41:29

know like damn are people like coming up to like watching us and being like up

1:41:36

and like for sure like they might but overall it takes a lot of courage to be up there yeah it takes a lot of like

1:41:42

practice and a lot of like determination to be up there and to stay up there and

1:41:49

to like have that belief in yourself that like hey you know if people aren't

1:41:55

feeling it [ __ ] it I am and I'm gonna just follow my heart on it and if people like it awesome like that just keeps

1:42:03

making it that much better but if not you kind of have to find your own motivation to continue to do it because

1:42:09

there's been a lot of bands that I've loved that have not made it and I'm always like damn like I remember that

1:42:16

one bad [ __ ] they were sick yeah what's making it to you I don't know

1:42:22

um I don't quite know I'm still figuring

1:42:27

that out I was once in another band and um

1:42:32

it went really well for us and it's still going really well for them and I'm really proud of them but um yeah we like

1:42:39

we curated this whole thing it was basically myself and my other band mate and we had we basically

1:42:46

they were like my she she was more like a sister to me I mean not anymore but she was being like a sister to me and uh

1:42:53

we just bounced off ideas like crazy it was like being one in the same so it was easy to like move forward because it was

1:43:00

like two people that had that same ideals and the same you know the same

1:43:05

kind of upbringing so the same work ethic and the same everything and it really propelled the band forward just

1:43:11

working constantly at it and like creating a vision sticking with an aesthetic constantly like anything we

1:43:18

posted was like curated you know to a we knew who our

1:43:24

audience was we knew who we were we knew what brand we were trying to sell and by

1:43:29

sell I don't necessarily mean like money but just basically like put out so people can register and be like oh

1:43:35

that's your brand right exactly when I see this I think of that you know it's like absolutely so

1:43:41

that really helps but yeah I don't know I'm getting off like topic that's that's what we do here on

1:43:49

the Mind bus we don't have a topic we go on topic and then we go off topic and then we talk about nosable kids

1:43:55

um yeah but I guess like making it like making it to me means like going on tour selling out shows

1:44:02

and I think and I something that all of us could agree on is we want to do this

1:44:08

for a living like I would I would love to dedicate a hundred

1:44:14

percent of my day making music like it wouldn't be a job to me just like photography right now is kind of not a

1:44:20

job to me it's really fun yeah to be able to create a vision for people to

1:44:26

look at through a screen and be like oh wow this looks aesthetically like something like I would do in the morning

1:44:32

but it's really like not like that you know you go into the studio and the studio is really shitty and really like

1:44:38

you know practically falling apart and really messy but like you make this really cool piece of art that people can

1:44:45

look at and be like wow that life must be a certain way but it's not you know it's like all

1:44:52

what you make of it is all really what you make of it and yeah that's what I'm

1:44:57

trying to do and that's I guess I would like to just go on tour

1:45:02

and make music for a living whether it's a jingle for somebody

1:45:07

um whether it's a song for somebody else whether I'm singing it or not I would just love to be in music just plain and

1:45:14

simple I just want to do this for the rest of my life and that's making it and that's making it to me just being able

1:45:20

to spend from the morning from the minute I Rise drink my tea smoke my herb

1:45:28

whatever I gotta do and just kind of go through my day writing a song or coming up with a song

1:45:34

do you follow Charlie puth do you guys know like uh on Tick Tock do you guys I don't okay well do you Amber no wait no

1:45:43

so on Tick Tock Charlie puth is on there and I'm kind of like not a big fan of the mainstream but I do I have learned

1:45:51

to observe and like kind of try to learn from it and Charlie puth is constantly like making songs and he's like what if

1:45:58

I made a song out of you know this cat's breath or what if I made a song out of like this and it's really inspiring

1:46:04

because it's like you can make a song out of just about anything it was a songwriter okay yeah he's a he's a

1:46:10

singer-songwriter I think that's my main goal is like I would like to write songs

1:46:15

for people and just kind of be like a producer or like hey it would be super

1:46:21

sick if you start a song with this or like okay I've heard your song once or twice like all right it's like this kind

1:46:28

of vibe what if we added like this kind of stuff to it or like I hear some harmonies on this side or it'd be sick

1:46:34

if we added a sin to this and I wanted to sound like Aryan yeah so that's

1:46:40

kind of where I'm trying to go to but I don't know how to do that quite yet besides but you will offering my

1:46:47

services and being like hey I noticed that your band is like this I like that sound too check this out I'd like to

1:46:53

sell you a song or I'd like to like work with you and help you develop that thing that you're going after how

1:47:00

crazy it is to listen to one piece of a song and create a full [ __ ] Orchestra

1:47:10

studio of different you know types of instruments doing

1:47:15

exactly opposite things but doing a coming together in one certain component

1:47:22

that has to be [ __ ] crazy for somebody to think it's a language

1:47:27

absolutely it's definitely a language like it's just I've tried to talk about this

1:47:34

to so many people and by so many people I mean my parents like my mom and my dad

1:47:39

and like just just my co-workers and they've always been like well that's nice you know like oh yeah

1:47:45

yeah that's that's that's that's good but to other musicians like oh yeah oh yeah I know what you mean yeah when when

1:47:51

the base goes like this or like I hear something else yeah it's it's a language you have to talk about it with someone

1:47:57

else that can just talk with you and like understands it you know like just

1:48:03

can really dive into it and appreciate it right so it's it's like a religion is

1:48:08

a language I've I've always felt a language okay that's a good way to I just think it's a [ __ ] crazy thing

1:48:15

that somebody just thinks about yeah right I mean listening I mean getting one piece of

1:48:22

thing and just creating this whole story in your brain within you know x amount of time listening to something yeah it's

1:48:29

[ __ ] amazing and everyone the best part is that everyone has their own perspective

1:48:34

so back in college when I was taking a photography class

1:48:40

the only photography class that I've ever taken in my whole life but my teacher was like

1:48:46

you have to your art has to stand out for its own you know you're not gonna be

1:48:52

in a museum in front of your painting explaining to everyone that's viewing it

1:48:57

what it means people are gonna come up and are going to make their own ideas on

1:49:03

it or they're they're going to make up their own stories about what they see and how what they see

1:49:09

you know makes him feel so you're not you can't represent yourself you have to just make it and like

1:49:16

the half of the fun is seeing how people interpret that you know okay yeah I can

1:49:21

I can see that I was just talking to um to uh damn his name is ex escaping me uh

1:49:31

the one that we did the other day sorry why why is it what yeah Cody Jimenez I'm

1:49:36

sorry dude uh Cody Jimenez uh badass artist uh you guys can listen to him on

1:49:43

the um on the last podcast that we did besides this one but I was telling we

1:49:49

were talking about his art and how subjective art is

1:49:55

and do you think music is the same way yeah I mean even though that there's

1:50:00

lyrics and I mean even though that there's lyrics there's actually spoken word in it do you think that it's it's

1:50:07

still subjective yeah another thing that just cannot be contained yeah it's just

1:50:14

it's different for everybody like some people listen to the lyrics some people listen to The Melodies some people don't

1:50:19

even care what it's about just as long as it's like something yeah something you can Bob your head to to dance to

1:50:25

okay yeah so it's definitely just however it makes you feel however you

1:50:30

feel like just like I said throw it on a wall and see if it sticks what do you what do you first like go

1:50:37

for if you are uh listening to a song for the first time like do you listen to

1:50:43

the lyrics first do you listen to The Melody the bass line the beat I don't know anymore because I'm like

1:50:51

all over the place first I would say Melody and I I'm just gonna pick that

1:50:56

because just if it's catchy that's like the first thing is like The Melody of the kid if Melodies catch I'd be like

1:51:04

you know and then I'd probably start listening to the lyrics Okay so

1:51:10

and then the structures of things like how people write what they write or if

1:51:16

it follows a natural structure and like what is a natural structure yeah what is an actual like extraction an intro burst

1:51:23

maybe two verses and then the chorus and then the verse again and of course and abrasion and an outro you know like how

1:51:30

how that that goes what is a bridge because I I know what a verse is I know what courses what's a bridge a bridge is

1:51:36

like the middle like not not the middle part but just like the breakdown before it ends oh okay can there be two Bridges

1:51:45

or no or is a bridge or is a bridge solely to maybe can a bridge

1:51:51

uh stop like at the First Act technique you know you know what I mean like maybe

1:51:56

there's different uh different endings in a song yeah you know what I mean

1:52:02

there are no rules that's what I'm saying can it be that way yeah there are no

1:52:09

rules okay there are no rules which is why which brings me back to like overthinking and how silly it is to be

1:52:16

like oh this isn't good enough but also like just [ __ ] throw it out there and see if people like it because somebody

1:52:21

will some people might really hate it and talk a bunch of [ __ ] but some people

1:52:26

might really like it and you might be their like biggest hero you just don't know yeah the important thing I feel is

1:52:34

that you just continue to feed your soul and you continue to do what you want to do like the views don't matter

1:52:43

if people like it or hate it yeah it might matter it might it might hurt or might be really awesome for you but also

1:52:50

like does it feed your soul like does like is it you

1:52:56

I don't know like just art making art in general making music in general is just

1:53:01

for me putting myself out there and being the most vulnerable and being like

1:53:08

hey this is what I am this is who I am this is what I've been through you can

1:53:13

Vibe with it or not and if you do like wow that's really special and if you

1:53:18

don't well that's okay I like it and I'm just fulfilling something for me you

1:53:24

know not necessarily for anybody else but just for that person inside of me that has this

1:53:30

longing to write something silly or write something fun or you know just do

1:53:36

it just do it just do it Angie get your dreams be dreams say that again like

1:53:43

don't let your dreams be dreams just do it have you seen that the no oh Shia

1:53:50

LaBeouf right thank you okay I was like hold on is it Shia LaBeouf or is it

1:53:55

Frankie Muniz Shia LaBeouf okay all right because I got that one wrong earlier for sure is it or is it Amanda

1:54:03

Bynes no are you sure I Miss Amanda Bynes I know positive oh you didn't know

1:54:09

I was gonna say did you meet her but she was on Nickelodeon right yeah Amanda Bynes went a little okay because of that

1:54:16

one dude yeah I think that's why one dude what do you mean what's his name

1:54:21

the producer yeah what's his name oh Google him the guy Nickelodeon yeah ate

1:54:27

a bunch of people all weird yeah look look at him the feet guy yeah he was like into like

1:54:33

feet and what's what's her name also made like a state like a bunch of Nickelodeon kids made made a statement

1:54:39

yeah there's also a book too the blonde girl did a whole book oh yeah

1:54:45

um was it good Amber it was really good the one um I'm glad my mom yeah yeah

1:54:51

yeah what what the heck was that like Charlotte she uh she talks about him in the book

1:54:58

Dan hold on gosh oh damn something come

1:55:03

on people are yelling at us right now through their through the screen through the screen and through Spotify and apple

1:55:10

pie there we go

1:55:17

I get that right yeah you got it right it's like uh yeah but hold on why is he why was he

1:55:25

defeat guy because they they did different shots of like the feet and he

1:55:32

made the kids do like weird stuff with their feet like like every episode of

1:55:37

everything he produced had to include feet like it had two that that was on

1:55:42

like the the must do the must do you just did some crazy things and like put people through

1:55:50

some uncomfortable situations where it was just like it's just independent right here yeah

1:55:57

yeah this book is really good okay so pull up the book Amber so we can read it I don't know what it's I think it's

1:56:04

called like I'm glad my mom is dead that's what it's called yeah I'm glad my

1:56:10

mom died this one oh uh Janet McCurdy yeah it's

1:56:17

really good yeah I had to read that yeah you gotta read it read it or listen to on um listen to it on on audiobook too

1:56:25

yeah that counts too yeah yeah that counts as reading a book I I do audio

1:56:31

books geez I wonder why she named it like that just like I forgot the dog was here I was like [Laughter]

1:56:36

no she's fine oh pick her up pick her up let's get one

1:56:43

last shot I say something and I'm like she's like [Music]

1:56:49

what would she say right now what would Sophia say Sophia right yeah Sophia I

1:56:54

don't know she's probably like I'm tired she's like get me the hell out of here she's so well behaved she was asleep the

1:57:03

whole time under the team she's dude she's been chilling next to me oh yeah there was a couple of times where I

1:57:09

heard to hey over wagon I was like what is scraping up against me we forgot I'm

1:57:16

gonna be on that type five show that Angie I'm I'm gonna be on that show

1:57:21

right now because the studio is haunted

1:57:27

Angie yes thanks for hanging out with us well thanks for

1:57:33

ever want to reach out you can follow me on Instagram at my wild love or follow my bands the

1:57:39

mccharmley's that's t-h-e m c c h a r m l y s underscore or follow

1:57:49

the tritones or oralia just follow me on Instagram you'll see all that there my bio

1:57:56

what about any upcoming are you guys playing anywhere she's oh yeah a Saturday right yeah the Saturday play at

1:58:02

The Airliner you guys should come so apparently The Airliner is closing down uh this month so come check out the

1:58:08

historical realities the Rhythm shakers storm house it's gonna be fun and uh our album comes out March 17th so

1:58:15

just follow us on Instagram and that will lead you into the countdown

1:58:21

[Music] yeah check us out right there nice anything else what about your

1:58:27

photography do you do for other people or just yeah well I'm I'm always open to it if anybody needs any photos hit me up

1:58:34

any videos let me know um or you can just follow my my Instagram my who is Angelica page

1:58:43

you can find all that in my bio thank you yeah it's a lot of fun

1:58:49

or if you need a song written for you just let me know hey there it is there's a lot you're a jack of many traits yeah

1:58:56

jack of all trades cool uh Angie thanks for coming out and

1:59:04

doing all this and uh thank you guys for watching on YouTube and you guys

1:59:10

listening to on Apple podcast and Spotify come check us out this

1:59:17

to stay on oh wait hold on you're you're showing me something ambitious sales thanks for sending out thank you so much

1:59:24

delicious appreciate it see you guys [Music]

1:59:34

had in Paramount on Thursday next Thursday oh yeah thanks guys Open Mic duh all right see you guys bye love you

1:59:42

bye