Jacqueline Valenzuela and Marky Marks are artists from Los Angeles.
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Have you ever wondered what happens when old flames reignite over a shared love of art and a plate of tacos? Jacqueline, Jackie, and Mark join us to weave a tale of love, art, and the quirks of life that bring people together. From the craftsmanship of painting classic cars to the surprising joys of a couple's journey in art and entrepreneurship, this episode is an intricate tapestry of personal stories that will warm your heart and tickle your funny bone.
Strap in for a roller coaster of insights as we tackle the fascinating world of digital art and AI, where the future of creativity balances on the edge of innovation and controversy. We'll navigate through speculative alien hoaxes that took the internet by storm, all while exploring the authentic process behind our guests' dynamic artistry. Every moment is a brushstroke in their colorful narrative, painting an intimate picture of their growth as artists and business partners in an ever-evolving landscape.
Finally, pull back the curtain on the realities of turning a passion into a thriving business, with a side of the unexpected. Their stories of finding a new studio space, balancing life as working artists, and even an alien hoax, are like palette knives sculpting layers of texture and depth into their shared canvas of life. Join the conversation that's as much about the art on the walls as it is about the laughter and camaraderie that fills the room.
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"King without a Throne" is performed by Bad Hombres
King without a Throne Official Music Video
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King without a Throne
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Jacqueline Valenzuela and Marky Marks are artists from Los Angeles.
https://linktr.ee/pieldemazapan
Have you ever wondered what happens when old flames reignite over a shared love of art and a plate of tacos? Jacqueline, Jackie, and Mark join us to weave a tale of love, art, and the quirks of life that bring people together. From the craftsmanship of painting classic cars to the surprising joys of a couple's journey in art and entrepreneurship, this episode is an intricate tapestry of personal stories that will warm your heart and tickle your funny bone.
Strap in for a roller coaster of insights as we tackle the fascinating world of digital art and AI, where the future of creativity balances on the edge of innovation and controversy. We'll navigate through speculative alien hoaxes that took the internet by storm, all while exploring the authentic process behind our guests' dynamic artistry. Every moment is a brushstroke in their colorful narrative, painting an intimate picture of their growth as artists and business partners in an ever-evolving landscape.
Finally, pull back the curtain on the realities of turning a passion into a thriving business, with a side of the unexpected. Their stories of finding a new studio space, balancing life as working artists, and even an alien hoax, are like palette knives sculpting layers of texture and depth into their shared canvas of life. Join the conversation that's as much about the art on the walls as it is about the laughter and camaraderie that fills the room.
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"King without a Throne" is performed by Bad Hombres
King without a Throne Official Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNhxTYU8kUs
King without a Throne
https://open.spotify.com/track/7tdoz0W9gr3ubetdW4ThZ8?si=9a95947f58bf416e
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Speaker 1:Boo. Get to our guests. They go see our guests, whether in concerts, at our galleries, at their pop-up shops. It's a little bit different than listening.
Speaker 2:I don't know, maybe because I don't wanna be like an Avenger or something, and that's where it's going. That's what gives off the vibe of my buzz, you know.
Speaker 1:No, despite the MCU. I know I'm wearing a Marvel's comic shirt right now, but I trust me. There's 110% worth of information on Marvel comics and I know maybe 0.5 of that information. I'm a poser when it comes to Marvel. I think the art is cool. I love the art. I love the aesthetic. The movies are okay, but I'm not a comic nerd. That's it. So when I think of universe, I think of a like, a like a universe like. You know what I mean. Like a storyline, a universe. People know what we talk about you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So it's more than that.
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Speaker 1:It's more like a storyboard. It's a lot going on.
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Speaker 1:Like a universe. There's a lot going on in the universe, but no my, my Greta Weekly today may be on the next one, but let's jump right into our guests for today, badass artists Jacqueline and Jackie and Mark, welcome to the Mind Buzz universe.
Speaker 4:Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:Sorry. We consistently have the debate about what to call people.
Speaker 3:What's up for debate? Like what else? What else do you guys?
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know, I haven't come up with anything, so there's really no debate right now. My debate is that I don't like it.
Speaker 1:That's your debate.
Speaker 4:That's valid. I understand that's it.
Speaker 1:But welcome to the podcast. Thanks for coming out and doing this. Have you guys done anything like this before? I've known you've done interviews before, but what about podcasts? Cause they're a little bit different, right?
Speaker 4:We've done like three.
Speaker 3:I think, yeah, this might be the third. Yeah, this might be the third, oh cool.
Speaker 4:A handful of them have been couples one, so I think that makes it a little bit funnier. Cause we'll bounce ideas off of each other.
Speaker 1:And you guys are from Whittier. That's super cool. I'm from Whittier, amber's not.
Speaker 4:Three against one. It's that right Paramount's cool, paramount's cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, paramount is pretty awesome. I love being out there, pretty cool.
Speaker 2:It's one of those things that you have to know where it's at Cause. For a long time I would always say Long Beach, Cause. They're like oh, okay, yeah, and then after I was like no, I have to say that I'm from Paramount. Like I have to say that I'm from my city so that people know where my city is Cause if I keep saying Long Beach, then they're never going to learn Paramount.
Speaker 3:Whittier is kind of the same. Yeah, it's, either you know it or you don't.
Speaker 1:That's true.
Speaker 4:I'll start naming like surrounding cities. I'll be like, oh, Pico Rivera, or Monabello El Monta, and then they're like, oh, I kind of know where.
Speaker 1:Santa Fe Springs yeah.
Speaker 4:Santa Fe Springs.
Speaker 1:But do people know Santa Fe Springs without knowing Whittier?
Speaker 3:They know. I think that's the thing. Yeah, they know of Santa Fe Springs.
Speaker 1:Right, but they don't know exactly where it is. Like Lebanon. People know that Lebanon exists, but can they point it out on a map? No, they can't.
Speaker 2:But Santa Fe Springs is small, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like tiny, it's like a street, I think that's it. It is like a telechron for a couple of miles and that's it. Maybe I don't know, but I think the five runs through Santa Fe Springs, right. Yeah, oh yeah, there's not even a. You have to. I think you have to pass through Santa Fe Springs to actually get in Whittier from the 605 and the five.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you get off the five Right, you have to pass.
Speaker 1:Because I don't even know, does Whittier even have an exit off ramp?
Speaker 4:605. 605 Whittier.
Speaker 1:Boulevard. Oh, that's right, that's right. Right there by Pioneer, right yeah?
Speaker 4:there's, I think there's, three main Whittier Washington Slasen. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I've been there for a long time. I don't even know if there's an on or off ramp for it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, South Whittier, the freeway is a little bit further.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, I think that's why.
Speaker 3:You got to travel through Whittier to get to any kind of freeway. Yeah, that's true, I forgot about that. But you got the Swatmeat, we got the Swatmeat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you guys still have the Swatmeat. Wait, what Swatmeat is that? Santa Fe Springs.
Speaker 2:Swatmeat oh duh, that's right.
Speaker 1:Exactly. I haven't been in such a long time. They throw some pretty cool concerts out there. I think the last one I heard about was I think it was Jim Morrison's birthday and they had a Doors Tribby Band play on his birthday at the Santa Fe Springs Swatmeat. That's cool. Yeah, you guys like the Doors.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not a huge band, but yeah.
Speaker 4:I know of them.
Speaker 3:I always get shit for that man.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 3:You don't like the Doors. I'm like I don't like them.
Speaker 1:It's never been a band that I'm like so what would be a band that you listen to, where somebody would say eh they're okay that you would be flabbergasted by.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 3:I'm just trying to get to know, you Hot seat, hot seat. I think I don't know, maybe Jefferson Airplane If you were going to be that guy.
Speaker 1:No, I like Jefferson Airplane. Yeah, I like that era of music, like the summer of love, like it just birthed so many great artists back in the day. I'm saying not just musically, but just like, maybe just musically because I'm trying to think of, like other artists, like you guys, photographers, it probably birthed a lot of different type of artists I think surrounding that whole, like the whole music all of that music.
Speaker 3:it's just like so many artists, so photographers were following that music artists were following that music. There was a we saw a book on like psychedelic album covers and it was just all that whole era.
Speaker 1:Really, can you look that up? Sure Psychedelic art.
Speaker 3:It was psychedelic album covers. Album covers I think that was a huge book.
Speaker 4:Yeah, A huge book. We saw it at an Airbnb we stayed at. I don't even remember the title, I just remember we took. We took psychedelic.
Speaker 2:We took the trip.
Speaker 4:So when we got to the Airbnb, we were like, oh, what the hell?
Speaker 3:Okay, let's read this yeah, it was just the whole book of all those album covers.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 3:But like backstories on some of the albums.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's cool, Would you consider. Well, were the Beatles in the book?
Speaker 3:Yeah, A bunch of them. I mean almost all their album covers, I think.
Speaker 1:When you look at Rubber Soul, that was like the. It was in there, it was like published in like 63, 64. That was like one of their one of the first albums. That kind of like hinted at like their psychedelic culture in from the Beatles because of the warped pictures. See if you can get a. Did you find a book or no?
Speaker 2:Oh, I forgot. We're looking for the bus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where was that?
Speaker 3:It was that one. Yeah, that one. Which one? The psychedelia right.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's cool 66 to 70? Where was this Airbnb?
Speaker 4:Joshua Tree.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, that makes sense. Oh that makes a lot of sense, Steve. Even when we honestly, every time we go to an Airbnb, I feel like whoever picks these books for Airbnbs has they got to know what's up, because there are some really good books in Airbnbs, dude.
Speaker 4:They're always like super specific to the theme of, I think that space. Of the space, yeah, we tripped out because we were there the whole day and then I was like Mark, they have a custom painted helmet. And he's like no, they don't. And I'm like it's literally up there. I'm like that's what you do for a living. How did you not like walk in and notice it? I guess.
Speaker 1:So what is that?
Speaker 3:What do you do? I do a lot of custom painting, like the lowrider paint job flakes candies, pearls, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Flakes, candies and pearls. You're going to have to elaborate a little bit on that.
Speaker 3:What do you want me to elaborate?
Speaker 1:on Flakes.
Speaker 3:Okay, flakes.
Speaker 1:For me I know my flakes is somebody that books something with me and cancels on me. That's what I think, or frosted one.
Speaker 3:Flakes are like metal flake the sparkle.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:That last car that I just painted is all full metal flaked. Yeah, it's just that when you see a sparkly paint job on a car that's flake.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Like something like this yes.
Speaker 1:So, mark, you primarily paint on lowriders.
Speaker 3:Not the only lowriders that I really paint are like personal cars. Oh okay, but I do restorations, I do do custom paint jobs, I do. Friends usually contact me. Oh my God, I'm real selective on who I give those to oh really yeah, Okay, so that's a flake.
Speaker 1:What about? What was the other thing?
Speaker 3:Candy's are the ones.
Speaker 1:Candy.
Speaker 3:Candy goes over the flake. That's like a transparent paint.
Speaker 1:So that makes it look like glass.
Speaker 3:Yeah well, it's almost the same kind of thing as like stained glass, almost where a see-through is a pigment. So you see the flake shining through that pigment. So a lot of the times it'll start off silver or gold flake and then all those colors on top of it are just pigments.
Speaker 1:And what's a crystal?
Speaker 3:A crystal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, did you mention pearl, pearl, pearl right?
Speaker 3:No, that's a flake. That's a flake job, pearl is.
Speaker 2:I thought I was right.
Speaker 3:Well, I think that's the best way to kind of describe a pearl like makeup, almost like highlighter.
Speaker 4:When girls put highlighter on their cheeks.
Speaker 3:So it pops that blush that they'll put up and you see that you catch that like little gold tone off of the pink.
Speaker 2:I know what it looks like because my dad used to have an orange, like he had a mustang a 66 mustang, and then they painted it orange pearl. So it was like this, like I don't want to say iridescent because iridescent brings out other colors, but it was like in, like, almost like an iridescent-y right. Yeah, it's about the same thing.
Speaker 4:It's like pearl-less-ing. Yeah, it's the same kind of idea.
Speaker 3:So like when you catch those cars that it looks white and then it passes by you and it flips kind of blue.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a pearl. Wow, how long have you been doing that for?
Speaker 3:Now 12 years.
Speaker 1:That's nuts dude.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 1:That's nuts. How did you get into restorations in that?
Speaker 3:Seeing old cars. My dad always had old cars and they were never like fixed up, so I was like that's what we need.
Speaker 1:We need somebody to paint those. You need somebody to paint those.
Speaker 3:Then like going to the car shows and stuff like that, I thought a mechanic did everything.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I thought a mechanic painted cars and everything. I was like, oh, I want to be a mechanic. And then somebody was like dude, I ain't no mechanic.
Speaker 1:My dad was a mechanic and I don't think he'd be able to paint a car. I wouldn't trust him. I trust him putting a starter, like putting a starter or fixing a starter or fixing the electrical in a car, but not painting.
Speaker 2:So you already had an incline in art before working on cars or things like that. Was there already a passion before for art? How did you know that you were an artist?
Speaker 3:Jackie. The art came from Jackie.
Speaker 4:He never wants to admit that he's an artist. I'm always the one that's like you're doing stuff, because he's thinking about color, shapes and stuff like that. I'm like you're making abstract art, basically, but on cars.
Speaker 3:Right yeah.
Speaker 4:I think it took him a while. Or even when you do like what is it? Body work on a car. That's kind of like sculpting. You have to like make sure the lines are even.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Kind of smooth areas out.
Speaker 2:Decision like painting, I couldn't do that. I couldn't do what you do.
Speaker 1:So, yes, you're an artist, yeah, and plus, you're working not just on a flat surface, it's an actual like dimension surface.
Speaker 3:Me and other painters talk about that a lot. I could paint a panel. I paint like plexiglass panels Easy, I'm on top of it and I could paint it really fast, but a car, it's almost like an obstacle course.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3:You got to move over it. Yeah, you can't lay on top of that car because you're going to dent something.
Speaker 1:And you have to give the illusion of, like, maybe it's just like one line right on a car and you have to give it the illusion that it's one line, Same sign.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that is wild dude. Yeah, it gets crazy Because that's the other thing too. You could paint a car and not like accent the car like the right way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can paint. It right, somebody can spray paint a car.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. How do you feel when you see cars that are spray painted? Is it a look, is that the look that people are going for, or is it like an easy fix?
Speaker 3:Are you like? Do you mean like those newer, when they kind of painted like anime cars?
Speaker 2:No, I'm talking about like matte black spray painting. Oh, like when?
Speaker 3:they go take it to the alleyway and they're just like let me paint this. I think they're funny, dude. Yeah, it's created. They're kind of interesting.
Speaker 4:I just recently did a canvas painting and I use a photo reference that this girl took while she was just walking around her neighborhood. It was a Cadillac but it was spray painted like powder pink and you could see where the spray paint like actually went onto the windows and other parts. And I just thought it was funny because I was like this person like wanted to hook up their car but they couldn't afford to, so they're like, whatever, I'm going to do it myself. So I just thought it was cool yeah.
Speaker 1:That's funny I think it's a DIY paint job on your car. What kind of car was it?
Speaker 4:It was like a Cadillac, but like a newer one, maybe like 90s.
Speaker 1:And scoping. On your page you have a Cadillac too, don't you what?
Speaker 4:year is it?
Speaker 1:75. It's a 75 Cadillac. See if we can get that on the screen 75 Cadillac. So, mark, how long were you into being a mechanic until you figured out that mechanics don't paint cars?
Speaker 3:I was never a mechanic, oh okay, it's just that's what I thought. So I was like okay. And then a friend of mine worked at a body shop and he was all like come on over, this is what we do. Like this is a paint job. I didn't know I had sound cars. I didn't know anything.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 3:And then I just learned it all.
Speaker 4:That's Mark with her children.
Speaker 2:Your three kids and is this the car yeah?
Speaker 3:That's it, big old boat.
Speaker 2:My friend had a. I can't even tell you what it was, but we used to call it Titanic because it was like a big lunch, I like it was just big.
Speaker 4:My dad always makes fun of me. He's like why do you have a lunch? I'm like I like my big car.
Speaker 1:See if there's any other photos of him.
Speaker 2:So the way that I found you guys was because I seen the espresso machine that you guys did.
Speaker 4:Oh for Paul.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen that yeah.
Speaker 1:Can you pull that up after you find her car?
Speaker 2:Yeah, is it this one? No, that's a painting. Oh yeah, it's a painting of my car. Wow.
Speaker 1:We have a long list of things that we need to talk about here today.
Speaker 4:My car is a big girl, she's a big girl.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:She's a lunch, and a lunch is a what?
Speaker 2:A boat.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:A ship.
Speaker 1:A ship? Yeah, a ship. Sorry, do you have other pictures of it?
Speaker 2:An art, an art. I want to talk about it all, but how about the 75?
Speaker 1:It's a 72, you said 75.
Speaker 4:75. It's somewhere in there 1975.
Speaker 1:What model is it?
Speaker 4:El Dorado.
Speaker 1:El Dorado. I'm not a car buff or anything, so I kind of want, I just want to see it. I heard in an interview you did recently about the.
Speaker 4:Oh, you can actually scroll up, uh-huh. That one, my friend. There's more photos.
Speaker 1:Oh, that sounds right here.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Scoot over. Yeah, so you guys were talking about this painting and how that was a self-portrait of you in your car.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There we go. There it is. Oh my God, that looks super cool. That looks super cool. How does it feel to have a classic car? Really nice yeah.
Speaker 4:I like, like, I feel like we're so busy right now with our actual business that we don't really cruise our cars as much as we would like to. But when we do, I get like a thrill out of it. And then I always like, I guess when people pull up and they realize that it's a girl driving, they're kind of like, oh, what the hell?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can have cars too, you're like yeah, so it's not your daily driver, it's something that you just take out and cruise with.
Speaker 4:I wish she was a daily driver. I don't trust her.
Speaker 1:Is that possible to have something like that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's just really expensive. Yeah, it's just really really expensive.
Speaker 1:A lot of maintenance.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and a lot of nerve wrecking man you always could break something.
Speaker 1:That's true, because it's a piece of art. What am I thinking, dude? You don't take out your China to eat a jelly sandwich, right? So?
Speaker 4:Whenever he paints like custom paint jobs for people there's like certain guidelines you kind of have to like follow the first couple of months to make sure your paint cures up correctly, just so it doesn't get ruined.
Speaker 1:So like months.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:After the paint job, like what kind of things do you have to watch out for?
Speaker 3:Well, everybody, when they get their car freshly painted, they want to throw a bunch of wax on it, wax it every single time they take it out. It's the worst thing for your paint job. Or they're like, oh, let me protect it. So they get a car cover for it and they throw a car cover on it. That'll scratch your right up, it'll scratch your right up and then it's a lot of the stuff. It's all chemicals. So when you just, it's like you're putting Saran wrap over a freaking oh.
Speaker 3:It's like you're suffocating that paint job.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:So all that's going to happen is you're going to have issues.
Speaker 4:The paint needs to, like, breathe.
Speaker 3:It needs to cure and it takes up to like a year for it to fully cure.
Speaker 1:Whoa.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's presentable. It's presentable. After a couple months Like it's, I could buff it out and it's nice. And people the very the customers that I've had that have kept up with their car the way that I tell them to they still they look like I just delivered them.
Speaker 1:So, in a perfect world, what would be the best practice for a freshly painted car that Mark just did Like? What do you suggest to? Let me keep it for a?
Speaker 3:year, let me keep it for a year.
Speaker 1:I'm so good.
Speaker 3:I tell everybody just don't, just keep it clean.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Just wash it, wipe it down, whatever you do, but that spray detail stuff that they sell, don't put that shit on.
Speaker 1:Don't throw anything of that.
Speaker 3:Don't throw that armor on, crap on, don't do nothing. Don't wax it, don't cover it, don't cover it, just leave it alone, like just enjoy it. Enjoy it, take it out, let it go through the elements, cause that's what I do, is I?
Speaker 3:You should let it sit in the sun for a bit yeah really yeah, after I paint a car like right now it's perfect because we still get. We still get some heat, but it's going through freaking moisture in the air, it's going through heat, it's going through rain, cold, everything. So it's gonna. It's being like tortured right now, but after that. That's how we tell.
Speaker 4:That's how you can tell yeah, cause if, by chance, one of the layers of paint wasn't put on correctly, it'll crack. And that tells you like, okay, I gotta fix this paint job.
Speaker 3:And I'd rather it mess up with me than then take it home and then hit me up in a month and be like, hey, this happened, Cause I have to be like, well, did you take care of it the way that I told you to? And if they did, then something happened. Something, cause it's like I said, it's chemicals. There could be a mixture that either got, didn't mix right or moisture got into it. Something was behind it. There's a blemish. I didn't clean that little piece of dust off, whatever it is, but I'd rather it happened with me than with them.
Speaker 2:So is everything that you do hand painted.
Speaker 3:No, it's a Like a mixture. It's sprayed.
Speaker 2:So sprayed and then. But I mean, are you going in there like and detailing things, like like, if someone wants I don't know flowers on their car, is that something that you do by hand?
Speaker 3:Jackie does the murals by. Like I buy a brushwork but all of my stuff is like I tape it out and I guess the way you could kind of say it's like a stencil.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 3:Would you say a stencil?
Speaker 4:I don't know You're just. He's kind of just playing with air and paint application Because it's with a paint gun.
Speaker 3:Paint gun, okay, or sometimes I feel like you don't really use an airbrush gun anymore but yeah, but even then, when I it's paint and air, that's what I tell everybody is paint and air.
Speaker 1:Paint and air.
Speaker 2:But still, I'm sure that's hard. I don't think anybody could just pick it up and be like let me paint my car, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's when people, when other painters see me paint, they're like dude, you just play with that shit Like you don't, you're just playing. I'm like yeah.
Speaker 2:That's cool. There's no like. Do you ever feel nervous, like when you get like that you know whatever you're painting and you're about to start like? Are there any nerves coming to like dang? I hope I don't mess it up, or is it just?
Speaker 3:second nature to you now.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:No, every time it's just like I hope this works, cause really it could be. I get a bad batch of paint or something's off, something's off.
Speaker 1:So that could be variables and to be anything, and that's what sucks. Weather to right Weather, yeah.
Speaker 3:Weather. The week that it was yeah, when it was raining, oh crazy.
Speaker 4:He was supposed to paint a car and he couldn't, cause it was raining.
Speaker 1:Even if you were inside a garage, it's the weather still plays a difference on it the moisture, is in the air.
Speaker 3:So if I spray something, I'm like encapsulating it and it's just getting stuck there and moisture wants to breathe.
Speaker 2:Oh, so like under the paint yeah.
Speaker 1:So there are a way to have a temperature controlled environment. Say, whether you're in Alaska or you're in the South African jungle, is there a way to control?
Speaker 3:that they have temperature controlled booths.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 3:Paint booths yeah, but those are expensive, I bet yeah.
Speaker 1:And you have to what oh permits to build something like that. Yeah, oh my gosh, that sounds like interesting work.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's fun, it's fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a lot of variables that go into it. It's not just picking up something and all right, I'm gonna do this. There's a lot that goes into it, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah Dang, that's, cool.
Speaker 4:I feel like your work. His work has a lot more stuff than my work.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:There's more room for mistakes. That could put you a lot of steps back. If I paint something, a color I don't want, I just wait for the paint to dry, or I can even scrape it off if it's wet enough, I just paint right over it, that's fine.
Speaker 2:And what you do, jackie, are more murals. Right, you do like or do you do murals or just painting in general?
Speaker 4:Just painting. In general, when I do the custom paint with him, it's the custom murals, so like the coffee or the espresso machine that you were talking about. We did that, we collaborated together and that was more like Can you pull the piece up please, right here.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's it. Yeah, whoa, okay.
Speaker 4:I love that little espresso machine.
Speaker 1:Can you move the pictures over?
Speaker 2:I think there's just one. I think that's the only one.
Speaker 1:Does Paul have it on his page, or that's his page?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think this is the only one he has. Do you have one on yours?
Speaker 4:I don't know people, or maybe the photographer might have more Sandy.
Speaker 3:I feel like it pops up on your tagged photos a lot too.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Maybe she didn't even post it, I don't know. Oh no, it's up there, is it?
Speaker 1:Oh, there it is.
Speaker 2:There's Mark with it.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's right Couple different angles.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Dang, that thing is so cool. Oh, there he is.
Speaker 1:That is awesome.
Speaker 4:It was the smallest little thing, but it was also, I think, the most interesting one to paint, because it was such a small surface to work with and you really have to narrow down so all of this like the marbling look. All that you guys did, all of that that's basically all, mark, and then the blue part and just the floral work is me.
Speaker 1:So it's the bottom part too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, everything here.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, I thought it was just the. It was like in the years right, the blue, the brown and then the red, whoa.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That is awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is beautiful.
Speaker 1:Give offers for the next picture.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I see there's and then there's, like the darker color Whoa, and what is that? An espresso machine.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, it's the actual unit, or was it a cover? It's the actual unit.
Speaker 3:Oh my God. When he dropped it off, he's like this thing costs a lot of money. I was like wow.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we were like whoa.
Speaker 1:It's about to cost a little bit more.
Speaker 3:It's like just you test the coffee, you serve it to somebody.
Speaker 2:This is what I want, Gilbert, right here.
Speaker 4:I don't even think we put it back together for him. I think we just we had to take certain parts off.
Speaker 3:I just put off whatever I took off. Yeah, and we were like you put it back together.
Speaker 4:I'm like I don't want to be responsible for all of that, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Do you get a lot of these custom works, because I'm pretty sure an espresso machine is very custom. Have you gotten anything like that up to that point?
Speaker 4:I think that was just the craziest thing that we got Well together. He usually gets the cars and sometimes people will ask him if he knows someone that can do mural work and he'll just pass it over to me, I did a set of wood planers. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I forgot. What are those?
Speaker 3:I guess they're like sanders. It's something that it's a block that carves the wood.
Speaker 4:It's a little tiny Like a vaha like.
Speaker 3:It just has like a little razor blade and it just kind of like gets layers and layers off the wood, but so you could. So it's.
Speaker 1:And you did a custom work for that. Yeah, I did so. It's like a tool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I did like what was it like? Three of them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you did three of them and then I did one for that artist at a later date. He just has all like these vintage like woodworking tools but they're all metal so he wanted them painted. So I guess he was going to different types of artists and kind of just asking them, like commissioning them, hey, I want this painted. So Mark did his a little bit more custom paint and remember mine just had floral work. Wow, that's cool I forgot that we did that.
Speaker 2:What's the dynamic between you both like when you're working? Are you guys always together, or is it only like when you guys do your projects?
Speaker 1:Before that question how'd you guys meet?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, let's go there first and then we'll go to the next one. We're high school sweetheart.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, what high school. We're your high. We're your high.
Speaker 1:We're your high, all right.
Speaker 3:We were.
Speaker 1:Cardinals.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Fellow Cardinals Okay.
Speaker 3:We got a funny story, oh my.
Speaker 4:God, we dated for like two months. We broke off. We broke it off, left me crying at the Starbucks in uptown Whittier. He was my first heartbreak he was my first heartbreak. So I was like shattered we. But we hung out with the same friends. So we saw each other for a year and we just never spoke to each other. We could be like at our spot at high school and we wouldn't even I just be like this close, he's not here, Really.
Speaker 3:We could be this close, basically what?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And he was gonna, cause he's two years older than me, so he was about to graduate and he was. He had you were able to leave campus. So he's like, oh, do you want tacos? And I was just like sure.
Speaker 2:The tacos got you yeah.
Speaker 3:Before that, before that, I held the door open for her. She said thank you, and I was like I got her and then you have the next day.
Speaker 4:Wasn't it me? No, I held the door for you. I don't remember.
Speaker 3:No, you would have slammed that thing in my face, whatever. And then, yeah, then I was like who wants tacos? You want taco, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And that was it. Oh well, I laughed because I was like oh, he's like well, what if they don't have what you want? And I was like well then, I'll just message you. But I didn't have his phone number.
Speaker 3:I laughed because.
Speaker 4:I saw he still had my number saved and he came back with tacos and he brought me an horchata too, which I didn't ask for. So I was like, okay, you get brownie points for that, but I still didn't get back with him. I think I didn't. I ignored you for a couple months, yeah, and then September 2013. Yeah, we got back together.
Speaker 1:So the tacos were the. That was the start.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was our first date of the relationship again. Nice Tacos bringing people together.
Speaker 1:Tacos in Uptown Whittier, bringing people together, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And it wasn't our first date. I'm lying, because we already had met years.
Speaker 1:No, the first date was tacos.
Speaker 2:But our first date after years of rekindling.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You're right, Tacos in Uptown Dude tacos, bringing people together like nobody's business Right. That's what we need for the world, like globally For peace. You hear that America Tacos are bringing people together.
Speaker 4:It'll change the world.
Speaker 1:It will change the world. So you guys knew each other for how long before you guys started working together.
Speaker 3:Well, we were together since 2013.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's when I started like I had just gotten into what I was doing. She was still in high school and I was working at a shop like right down the street from Whittier High and she'd go and hang out after.
Speaker 4:Drop two sodas on me. Yeah, I dropped two sodas. I dropped them down there.
Speaker 3:She would wait and then I'd walk her home. Yeah, just then what?
Speaker 4:The first time we collaborated was 2020.
Speaker 2:Oh, so recently.
Speaker 3:No, that's yeah.
Speaker 1:On a custom paint job.
Speaker 4:The first time that we really found out like oh wait, you could do your art and I could do my art, and it'll look good together.
Speaker 3:But we were, I mean, we were always kind of creative together.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because he had a garage that he would work in, sometimes at his parents' old house when he was still living there, and he'd spend like all his free time there in the garage. And I was in art school, so sometimes I would take huge projects that I had to work on and I would work on them in the garage with him.
Speaker 3:Even before they need to go with me to like the old. The first shop that I worked at Should go on the weekends and we'd work on my car together and stuff like that.
Speaker 4:I didn't even know what I was doing.
Speaker 3:Just to get the tacos on us.
Speaker 4:I was like, oh, he wants to hang out. I guess I gotta work on my car.
Speaker 3:And we were doing before that, we were doing like the bicycles together. Oh yeah, we had bikes.
Speaker 4:together with the house, we were bike couples.
Speaker 1:We were biking everywhere.
Speaker 3:We used to see other couples bikes and be like we're like ours, are custom painted, whatever.
Speaker 4:Ours are vintage, that's cool.
Speaker 1:So up until 2020, you guys were painting separately, up until you both figured that, hey, I can add my work. With your work, it's doable.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we figured out. Well, I was kind of like taught a little formula to use and then we were just like, well, let's see if it works. And it worked out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we're happy about that.
Speaker 1:You've been inseparable since.
Speaker 4:Now we have studios together. Like Mark got a new auto body shop recently Nice, I just tagged along as we do. Yeah, so which office space is mine Right on.
Speaker 2:He's like you don't even work here. You're like now I do.
Speaker 1:What space can be mine? Where can we work this in?
Speaker 2:It's just the way we work, right yeah?
Speaker 4:You guys are, I'm a chiclay, I guess yeah.
Speaker 2:Me too.
Speaker 4:He stopped on me one day. He couldn't get me off.
Speaker 1:That is hilarious.
Speaker 2:That's funny.
Speaker 1:Chiclay.
Speaker 2:There you go. Are you my chiclay or am I your chiclay?
Speaker 1:I don't know at this point we can both be. I'm just a piece of dried up gum underneath.
Speaker 2:You're my chiclay.
Speaker 1:Underneath the mess, off somewhere, dude At a taco shop or something. Somebody just left me and then you decided I picked you off the table. Yes, you picked me off the table. It's like I like this color.
Speaker 4:She just took it.
Speaker 1:It's a little dry, could use some water. Let's rehydrate it Exactly.
Speaker 2:We each have our own. We each have our strong suit, which. I'm sure that you both do right. We're creative as well. We're not. We don't paint, but we're creative in our own way, and then we do projects that come together and then we do projects that are separate.
Speaker 4:So it works. I think it's a strength when it's like two creatives together, because sometimes I don't know what to do, so I'll like go to him like, hey, do you think this is a good idea, or this, or this or this? He'll go through it with me and same with him. Sometimes he'll be like oh, I don't know what to add here or what like color I should use.
Speaker 2:Do you guys ever like argue? Like when working when working together on projects.
Speaker 3:It's a strength, but it's a battle. Yeah, it's a battle, but it's a hard time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, yeah, oh, yeah, okay I was like I was hoping, I was hoping.
Speaker 1:I don't want to say the struggle, I think just maybe the experience is there because you're vulnerable when you're asking for help you get. You have to be very vulnerable right To the question or to your. You're just being very vulnerable, right, and it's hard to take criticism or to take direction, even though, like it's your project or the other person's project. It just it's difficult at some points.
Speaker 4:I think sometimes we'll ask each other for advice and then we're like you don't even know what you're talking about. Yes, it's my thing, you don't even do this like whatever my thing is, he'll ask me for advice.
Speaker 2:I tell him what I think, I tell him what I, and then he's like, no, never mind, that's been. And then he like completely, like just just regards what I said, like he goes with what he initially wanted, and I'm like, okay, if it helps you. You know, reassure that what you were saying at first helps, then fine. But, why'd you ask?
Speaker 1:Right For for. But I've, I've been, I've been getting a little bit better. This recently is, if I'm writing a joke, I have maybe at least five different punchlines and I run them through the amber filter and I don't know how does that work, right, like he, she gives me feedback. I'm kind of like I don't know about that one. I was thinking of this and I I've been getting better with that. But also I I take her, her advice, even though I don't tell her at that spot. I use it at an open mic or I use it during a show. It works and I don't know. You just have to be very vulnerable, right, and then just take your criticism, but don't take it too hard, right, don't take it too personal. I think that's what it is too.
Speaker 4:I think we just had we just told someone that a story like that, where he was painting something on the roof of my car and he's like, well, I wanted to look like this gemstone and I'm like, okay, it's like, but I can't get this texture right or I need like this specific effect on it for it to look like what I wanted to look like. And he was trying to do every other thing. And then he asked me and I was like you should use a brush, and he's like I don't use brushes, you use brushes.
Speaker 4:That's how you paint, that's all. And I'm like, well, I'm just saying you're saying you're trying to paint a line and sounds like a paint.
Speaker 1:So how did that work?
Speaker 3:out.
Speaker 1:Was it a brush? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:But, some think I came back the next day. You didn't look and I was like oh, what'd you use?
Speaker 1:But that's a strength too, because you went through your entire. You went through all the options, Right. I think that's a strength.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was like, you see, that I'm going to figure this out and I'm going to go get that down, bro, exactly. Right.
Speaker 1:Exactly For me. I run through. I run through 10 different punch lines other than the ones that Amber suggests you like to work? Harder, not smarter, no, but it's kind of you're running through your repertoire.
Speaker 2:You're going through everything, but I get it I get it, because then you're going to be left with like maybe I could have done it with something else, or so you go through everything to exhaust it and then you get to the point where you're like, all right, I'll try this.
Speaker 4:I feel like you want to be sure that you're like not skipping over a step you might be able to approach it at. So you want to make sure you're you know, like I said, doing every possible thing that you can, and then when you're like okay, I can't, Maybe I'll try what this person suggested.
Speaker 1:First you go through your perspective and then you go through somebody else's lens, whether it be writing or looking at art or creating a piece of art. I think perspective has a lot to do with art in general. Right, whether you're writing or painting something, it's all perspective of how somebody perceives a different art piece.
Speaker 4:That's what's funny is like you could make something or write something or X amount of things, create something and you're going to think of it one way and someone else is going to see it and read it a different way.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 4:I think that's always a strength, because sometimes they'll give you insight that your brain couldn't comprehend. And when they bring it up, you're like oh, wow, like it does sometimes end up having like a connection to you. Anyways, you're like oh, I could have thought about it that way as well. I always liked that during critiques, because then I just take it away and I'm like yeah, that's what I was thinking, you're right.
Speaker 2:Jackie. So what would you categorize your style of work Like? How would you if someone asks you what do you do or what kind of style do you have? How would?
Speaker 4:you, when it comes to painting, I feel like it's hybrid work, because I use, like, realistic approaches but then also abstract approaches with, like, my body of work. But when it's, I guess, like different types of ways of creating, that's what I call just multidisciplinary. Like I'm using installation work or I'm building something I categorize like when I paint stuff that is custom paint. That's like multidisciplinary, because I'm still painting, but in a different way. Sometimes I do like, I guess, digital work that's super rare, like this one, no, all those Veedhain ones. I made these like this design and I had it printed on shirts, and also just art prints for a solo show that I had that recently closed.
Speaker 2:Well, what would categorize something as like digital work, like things that you kind of draw with like the computer, or is it like things?
Speaker 4:Just anything I do on my iPad.
Speaker 2:I guess Okay, got it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like Procreate or something.
Speaker 2:But it's still you using, you're still drawing right With like a tool, or is it just kind of other objects?
Speaker 4:I'm still drawing with a tool.
Speaker 1:How do you feel about artificial intelligence, art AI?
Speaker 4:art.
Speaker 4:It's weird, but honestly, like I'm sorry For me, it's the same thing as like when people say, oh, painting's dead, you can photograph it. I'm like, yeah, but there's nothing like a painting. Like a painting is the purpose of a painting isn't for it to look like realistic, it's for it to look like a painting, like for you to be able to see that there's brushstrokes or like little things. There's certain layerings of paint that are being put down, that are making you see this object. So I see AI as like the same thing, like I don't think AI will ever take over actual handmade art.
Speaker 1:Is there any artwork that is well, it's painted, but from like a, from AI? Have you seen? Can you look that up? I wanna know that. Look up, maybe AI paint or something I don't know. Ai paint, art paint. I don't know, I don't even know what to ask. You see what I'm saying. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's gonna give a lot of ideas Like for that, maybe generate something that you can't envision yourself, and then you could use it as reference.
Speaker 1:But it's not an actual.
Speaker 4:I think we're good sketchy, but this is digital right.
Speaker 1:This is not somebody or not a AI.
Speaker 4:Almost like training a robot to create something.
Speaker 1:But, using, like AI, to tell that robot Exactly kind of like Robocop, but an artist Robocop.
Speaker 4:That'd be crazy.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Maybe we're not there yet, yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, I mean digitally. These digital pieces are pretty crazy.
Speaker 4:You know what's weird? Now, when I apply to like art opportunities, it'll specifically say cannot be AI generated, no AI art.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 4:And I'm like okay, that makes sense. Yeah, cause where it gets weird is this AI that's being made. They usually just steal, like the, I guess, the style of the artist and like put it through their system. So then when someone goes on and uses the AI generator, they'll ask for the specific thing, but what it's being generated from is a bunch of stolen art. So that's where it gets weird and you should not use AI. I had heard that. Ask the artist.
Speaker 2:Or also the. There was an article a few months it was last year of, I think it was a photographer that went through a whole competition of photography and he used an AI generator.
Speaker 1:Oh I remember you talking about that. Oh, I heard about that too.
Speaker 2:So supposedly him at the end when he won cause he won supposedly him. It was an experiment, but I don't know, I don't know, I don't know the truth. If it was like towards the end, like once he won, he probably felt like like bad that he had won with, like work that wasn't his. And then he said, oh, I don't know, but that was the thing that supposedly for him it was to see, like if the trained eye can even tell that it was not a real photograph.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he won.
Speaker 2:He won the entire competition using an AI generated photo. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. He won, like I don't know, like $100,000.
Speaker 1:Can you pull? I wanna see that article. Are AI generated pictures? Art.
Speaker 2:I think this is where it talks about what Jackie was saying about that it-.
Speaker 4:Oh, there's a thing a man won an art competition.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's exactly. It. Is that one of the-.
Speaker 2:Oh, so it was a painting, so it was okay. So it was this.
Speaker 1:It was that. I wonder if that's so lame, would you be able to tell?
Speaker 4:Yeah, because. Okay, well then it also depends, like, because if the competition, I guess, was all just when you, sometimes, when you submit to these things, they just ask for a photo of it. They don't always see the piece.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say that because you could see right, like I mean, if you were submitting it in person you're submitting the you could see the texture and what You're gonna be like, bro?
Speaker 4:you printed this out on a canvas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see this year the Colorado State Fair. I know our competition gave out prizes in all the usual categories painting, quilting, sculpture.
Speaker 4:These things are funny, though, like I recently, last year I got pissed off because I saw this artist that was like acting like they were doing a residency in Machu Picchu and that they had accidentally set something on fire and I was like what an idiot. And then me and the artist ended up connecting and he was like I'm just fucking with people, like I'm not actually so that thing, like he fell back on it because he was like no, like it wasn't. I'm not actually trying to do that.
Speaker 4:I'm trying to see how far I can push people without them noticing that- A performance piece yeah, like a performance piece, like to rile up, get something out of like a reaction out of people Like I'm starting to riot, okay, so what did he do? He acted like he was doing an artist residency in Machu Picchu and that he accidentally set fire to an area, but he was cosplaying. His whole thing was that he was a white guy. That was in Machu Picchu and like, almost like tone deaf of, like the cultural significance of the area yeah like Was this a comic or?
Speaker 4:No, it was an actual artist Like this was one of his like projects that he did where he was like, oh, like yeah. I don't know why the locals are mad at me, like that was one of the captions.
Speaker 4:And a lot of artists that I follow were like this guy's dumb, and so I was like I had the same reaction and then I started looking at everything. Then I laughed cause he messaged me separately and he's like this isn't a real, like thing, Like I'm just doing AI generated photography and I'm punning it off as me living this experience.
Speaker 4:And then he's like I'm not even white, I'm Latino, and I was like what the fuck? Why are you fucking with the stuff? Everyone's all mad. Yeah, a lot of people were mad, and a lot of photographers, cause they were just like, oh my God, like why is this guy doing this?
Speaker 2:That's crazy. I think like it's cool. I think it's cool that now we have all these things that are fingertips, right? That you're able to create, that you're able to create all these things. If you want to create an entire world for yourself, you can whatever. But then it's also really scary, to that the point, that, like we're people, we're going on the internet and believing everything that we see. Right, we're scrolling and believing it. Scrolling and believing it. Have you guys, did you guys hear about supposedly the giant aliens?
Speaker 4:Oh, I saw something about like yeah.
Speaker 1:Whoa, you gotta show me that.
Speaker 2:I didn't see the actual photos, but I saw people laughing at it.
Speaker 1:So before I show you guys the photos, this is my favorite part of the podcast we live together, we work together, we do a podcast together.
Speaker 4:This is how you catch up.
Speaker 1:And she's, she has something that's like really cool that we haven't talked about. That we haven't talked about.
Speaker 4:She saves these little secrets.
Speaker 1:I know, do you?
Speaker 2:No, not for here. I forget to tell you.
Speaker 1:But there are some times where we go throughout our day and she'll tell me something and I'm like, oh, this could have been way cooler on the podcast, go ahead and pull it up. I wanna see it.
Speaker 2:But wait before I tell you so the context behind it is that this weekend there was at the mall, like this big mall, huge mall in Vegas there was about 60 police, like cars right that came and surrounded them all. They did, like this huge like line, everything People were running and blah, blah, blah. So people-.
Speaker 1:That was this whole. Thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it was a big thing Like an actual, like humanly experience and people were running and yelling and people were videotaping and things like that, right. So there this guy goes on the internet, on TikTok, and he starts saying like, oh, did you guys see that? Did you guys see the aliens?
Speaker 2:I was there and I was running for my life, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right. So from there it like spread like wildfire, right, and everyone's like, yeah, the aliens, I have pictures of them, I have videos of them. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's just started going like crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. Well, today the guy that did the video is like hey, guys like I'm not even from Las Vegas.
Speaker 2:He started a mass hysteria. Yeah, like he's. Like he's like I don't even know what was happening, so something really was happening there, but he came up, he planted a little seed and it went off and then people started doing pictures and then it went on the news and everyone's like oh, the aliens. And you see it, cause I seen the video finally today. When I looked it up and I was like you gotta be shitting me.
Speaker 2:Was it like, not Like there's no way that you can believe this. So let me, let me look this up.
Speaker 4:We gotta watch this, cause I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2:But yeah, and he's like I'm not even from Las Vegas, he's like, sorry guys, oh, it was Miami.
Speaker 1:Was it Miami or was it Vegas? Oh sorry, I'm.
Speaker 2:Miami I'm sorry. I had something wrong.
Speaker 4:Alien speculation yeah.
Speaker 2:So all these cop cars are here, right, but because so-?
Speaker 1:A 10 foot alien outside the mall in Miami.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, so 10 foot. So the real truth was that they somebody called, like a couple of teenagers called, saying that there was a mass shooting, so which really didn't happen. But I guess maybe they heard something, I don't know, or they were just playing, but that's why people were running and that's why all those cops were using. But then, after when people found out the truth, people were online like no, they're trying to hide something, you know how they just kind of go from there. So let's see this thing.
Speaker 1:Alien speculation in Gulf of Miami Mall after curious New Year's Day video.
Speaker 2:Well, it's a New Year's Day, let's see Four teens arrested. Oh, wow, yeah, so I think those were the teens that called.
Speaker 1:Why is it? Why is there, like an Asian, like? Channel, I don't know, not channel, but I don't know. That's kind of fishy. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's just people making fun of it.
Speaker 1:The Chinese government has something to do with it. Well, there we go.
Speaker 2:Oh, here Is this the video.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh shoot, did it cover the whole thing I?
Speaker 1:don't know Whoa. That is a lot of police cars.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Is he speaking Spanish? Yeah, for one alien it's a lot of cars. I don't know if it'll show. Yeah, it's a lot of cars 9.35 pm, 1st January. I'm going to show you the main site.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not going to show it.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 4:That's really awesome.
Speaker 2:No, he's just showing kind of like when it was happening. When it was happening. Right, Let me see if I could find it. But it's like ridiculous, like ridiculous. And I'm just like who made this? Um Maybe.
Speaker 1:Aliens and aliens, so it was like a digital.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, here that's what they were saying, what the? So you see that, rare photos leaked. That's the alien that everyone was like.
Speaker 1:Was this Twitter that was?
Speaker 2:our picture. Let's see.
Speaker 1:Oh my god.
Speaker 3:The government's hiding something. Yeah, that's what they were saying Dude.
Speaker 4:I know if I saw that I immediately would be like who Photoshop?
Speaker 1:Well, it's like a statue.
Speaker 2:And these are the photos that are going around and everyone's like swearing, Like people are like oh yeah, I have.
Speaker 3:I saw it, I saw it.
Speaker 2:I was there, I was running from it Like it was just crazy. But yeah, it's all that has to be like right, like digitally made, like someone implanted that into. Yeah, I'm like right, I'm asking that's not real. Right, but that's the crazy thing to me is that we have all these tools now at our fingertips and it's like people making it and then people like.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised that this doesn't happen more often. Right, I feel like after this, there should be more of that.
Speaker 2:I don't know, maybe they were.
Speaker 1:But with all the technology we have, there should be more, Like if I was able to do anything digitally with I'd be making tons of videos.
Speaker 4:Just make a whole video of that, eli Right, I'm fucking down that Exactly.
Speaker 1:And you can Like how many people called in for that. Like, that's a lot, that's a huge production, right.
Speaker 4:I wonder if they all showed up with, under the guise of it being mass shooting, like those 60, or if they started getting there's reports of an alien they just started showing up.
Speaker 2:So that's why people are saying, that's why people are like no, it was because of the alien. Because they're saying like I mean, you guys see all the cars right? And it's like. They're saying like, why would 60 police patrols all show up just for something that they're alleging like the shooting? Maybe it could have been 10, but not 60. So that's where people are feeding off of like maybe it was something more and they're getting it.
Speaker 1:It looks like there's only police cars. There's no SWAT team, there's no military personnel, there's no unmarked vehicles, like it's all police cars, patrol cars Right.
Speaker 4:I feel like if they were just bored on the job. They heard the call, they heard the call.
Speaker 1:They're like an alien, a Cuban refugee. Let's see if we can all take them down or something.
Speaker 3:I feel like, yeah, they watch Scarface and they're like dude, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like is it like a 10 foot person or is it like something that's? I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, but the image came out later because they're not really seeing anything. Yeah, they're just it was like planted there. Dang, how I wish I could draw or paint. That'd be cool, that'd be real cool.
Speaker 1:Is he like philosophically 10 feet tall, or is he actually 10 feet tall?
Speaker 2:No, in the video like. He's like moving and everything too. I don't know. Whoever made it needs some work. I'll tell you this much.
Speaker 1:So it wasn't Christopher Nolan or anybody like that, I don't know. Well he's, he doesn't really have a. Who made the Z? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:I know, not the zombie movie, the alien movie.
Speaker 2:The newer one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I would be afraid of a 10 foot alien or like smaller aliens. I'd probably be scared of like smaller aliens, to be honest, really.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or I would you know what I would be afraid of an alien. That's like a microscopic type of thing, because we could breathe it, it could get into our skin Right Easy. Yeah, I don't know about the. I think a 10 feet, 10 foot I mean.
Speaker 2:I think the aliens wanted to take over the world. They would have already have.
Speaker 4:I think they've gone by and they're like that place is yes, that's exactly.
Speaker 1:They're like those people are dumb.
Speaker 4:They're like that's the highest intelligence on that planet.
Speaker 3:I agree.
Speaker 4:That's the trash planet.
Speaker 2:That's why they don't even want to come and do anything to us.
Speaker 1:I think who was? It Wasn't George Carlin. It was Bill Hicks that had a bit about that, about how the Earth was like the southern part of the galaxy, or something like that. He's like we're the South, the Earth is the southern part of the galaxy, or something like that, he said.
Speaker 4:That's believe it Me too.
Speaker 3:Spiting each other's. Leave him alone.
Speaker 2:That's funny.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Where do you guys get like most of your inspiration? Like, what are you guys inspired by when you create art or you're painting or anything in general?
Speaker 4:Want to answer first.
Speaker 3:No, oh, ok.
Speaker 4:Damn it, Wait, my things are falling out. But when it's like specific work, I guess, like for a series, I just look at reference images for that series. I do play a lot with like a procreate and kind of building these weird compositions. It's almost like Photoshop, but I'm moving drawings around and kind of overlapping them and typically for my surroundings, like let's say I'm walking around the shop and I see Mark laying down in a car and I can only see his legs and there's like a shadow in the car Paint that I'm literally I think I was working on that tracing that photo on my procreate a couple of days ago. So it's just surroundings or like personal experiences. And then sometimes if the subject isn't me or Mark or people that we know directly, then I get to know another person and I'll ask them for multiple photo references or just hear about their life. I'll make stuff that way.
Speaker 3:It's almost like documenting something.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm very like heavy on documenting my life or other people who I like their lives.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, awesome. I also heard that you guys-.
Speaker 1:We're not skipping, you are you.
Speaker 2:I'm like I'm gonna skip you.
Speaker 3:I'm so sorry I got over that one.
Speaker 1:Cause I seen you pass it to her and I was like, all right, it's all good.
Speaker 2:I'll spare you this question.
Speaker 1:What's a loaded question. It's hard to articulate.
Speaker 2:But I feel like, in order to create, you have to be inspired, right, sometimes like and it like like what Jackie kind of said, like anything kind of inspired not anything inspires you, but you have the eye for it. Because if I saw Mark under the car I'd be like all right, cool, Hope he doesn't hurt himself. I wouldn't be like I'm like stay right there, yeah.
Speaker 4:Let me get my phone.
Speaker 2:So it takes a certain person, a certain eye to see, you know, the beauty in anything, cause that's what you're seeing.
Speaker 1:A certain vision too, cause you have to imagine. You have to imagine these things when people don't see them. You have to see it first before even starting. I feel that's very difficult, especially articulating something like with paint. It's crazy.
Speaker 4:I always laugh cause I feel like painting is such a it's such a long process that drain most of it. I'm just like this is ugly, this is ugly, this looks dumb. And at the end I'm like, oh, it looks like I wanted it too, photograph it, post it on Instagram and move on with my life.
Speaker 2:That's funny. So it's a process right. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's just the process of it.
Speaker 2:I heard you guys kind of say that you guys have a business now. So did you guys go from like turn your art into a business?
Speaker 4:Yeah, just this year, we, finally, we both incorporated, we're business owners.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 4:We're.
Speaker 2:CEOs Nice.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we just cause. Before that I had a space in Santa Fe Springs. I had a space in Santa Fe Springs and then they didn't want to renew our lease so we had to move and that was scary. Yeah, that was horrible. But then it was kind of just like we're looking for a space for us to keep going Cause we're like, well, we can't really stop. But that was really challenging.
Speaker 4:It came like at the most inconvenient time too. I had a lot of art shows coming up. You had just a lot of work that you had to get done and we kind of just had to cram everything. In a certain amount of weeks we moved out. We were able to, like miraculously, find a spot. Now we're in the city of industry. So the whole warehouse is 2000 square feet. Wow, the actual warehouse part is all Mark's kind of area. And then we built out a smaller office space for me, and there's also a bigger office space in the front. Tomorrow I'm gonna have my first studio visit. I'm super nervous. We haven't had anyone come into the space yet. Our space used to be a church, so we still have the church sign in the front. Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 4:Just a couple of days ago, a guy pulled up, we pulled up and he was just sitting there and we were kind of he was like is this still a church? And we're like no, and he's like oh, he's waiting for service. And I was like, well, we're just two random people.
Speaker 3:We can't offer those services. We can't offer services to you.
Speaker 2:You can kick it, you're like you wanna hang out you can kick it and hang out Right. He's like all right. So when you say that you're having someone come see, you said someone to come see the gallery. Is that what you said?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm gonna have a studio visit with a curator and I'm excited they're gonna see like some in progress work and then most of my finished work is currently on view in different places. Like I have a piece in a group show at Museo in Anaheim a museum and then my solo show just ended. But we have to go and take it like pack all the work up, bring it back to the studio.
Speaker 2:Nice, that's cool, so you guys are always busy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I laugh, cause today we're on our way here and someone contacted me for another podcast and I was like, okay, I'll fit in my schedule.
Speaker 2:Thanks, I'm glad that you guys came out and fit it into your schedule.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm glad we're able to get you guys in. I know we talked about this or you and Amber we're talking about jumping on a few weeks ago, but I'm glad that you guys were able to make it happen.
Speaker 4:I feel like we always like doing these though. Yeah, they're more fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I think they're always more fun than like an actual, like super strict artist interview Cause then they're like they go through all the. I think the reoccurring questions. What got you into art?
Speaker 3:And we're talking about aliens.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we're talking about aliens.
Speaker 1:Talked about aliens. We talked about psychedelic art, talked about music.
Speaker 4:Talked about Whittier.
Speaker 1:Tacos Whittier yeah.
Speaker 2:It is. It's just, it's a conversation, like if we had met somewhere you know for the first time and which we did meet somewhere at the first time. But you know it's just one of those things, so it's a lot funner. Yeah, absolutely, definitely. We still want to get to know you guys and have those questions that maybe we are already asked and things like that, for our listeners and for ourselves, but still incorporate some fun aspects into our conversation, definitely, yeah, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1:Exactly. So if you guys need anything from us or need help with anything, don't hesitate to reach out to us on anything. So, with that being said, jackie Mark, thanks for coming out and doing the podcast. Can you share with us what you have coming up and where we can find you guys?
Speaker 4:I have a group show coming up in April at ThinkSpace Projects. Oh, ok, cool.
Speaker 1:Cody has done the podcast before Cody Jimenez. He's an awesome, cool guy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's, I think, like a project that I have coming up, and then I just post stuff on my Instagram Sophie of the Massafan, and that's where I put all my stuff up.
Speaker 1:What do you have?
Speaker 3:Mark, you could find me at Little Lolo's.
Speaker 4:Oh, we have a duo show.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, we do have a duo show coming up. I forgot when.
Speaker 4:October.
Speaker 3:But yeah, and then if you need custom work, restorations of, I guess, any kind, let me know, contact us.
Speaker 4:We're open for studio visits too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sweet.
Speaker 4:So I just want to check the space out.
Speaker 1:So that's what they're called studio visits. Yeah, ok.
Speaker 4:We want to have open studios, but we just haven't had time.
Speaker 1:We're still kind of getting into space, oh yeah, well, yeah, is it ready for visits? I want to go check it out.
Speaker 4:The front part is we still need a couple more. We have graffiti artists coming in and painting our whole.
Speaker 1:Oh OK, oh, dude, that's awesome. Congratulations to you guys.
Speaker 4:So far we've had Vile come in Atlas.
Speaker 3:Pyro Alhoy yeah.
Speaker 4:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3:Thank you, Dee.
Speaker 4:We have a couple of surrealists or like realists, muralists coming in and they're going to do one whole side too.
Speaker 2:Is Vile the? Did he do tattoos?
Speaker 3:No, he does Eyeballs.
Speaker 4:Yeah, these like eyeball graffiti.
Speaker 3:Yeah, who's that?
Speaker 4:What he's known for mostly.
Speaker 2:I know someone that does tattoo.
Speaker 1:Nice, the Mimebuzz.
Speaker 3:The Mimebuzz.
Speaker 2:That's the same.
Speaker 3:That's what I was going to say Shit, thanks, thanks.