Johnny Gold is a stand-up comic.
https://www.instagram.com/johnnygold777/
Ever wondered what it's like to walk the tightrope of humor, teetering between uproarious laughter and the deafening silence of a joke gone awry? Amber and I, Gill, are joined by the sharp-witted Johnny Gold to peel back the curtain on the stand-up comedy scene, revealing the relentless pursuit of that perfect punchline. Together, we navigate the murky waters of what constitutes engaging material versus what's downright offensive, and we shed light on the often invisible line that comedians dance upon every time they step on stage.
Strap in as we take you on a journey through open mic nights and bringer shows, from the unpredictability of Shirley's Temple in Long Beach to the pressures of the Comedy Chateau in North Hollywood. We get raw and real about the substance use that shadows the comedy circuit, and how it can be both a creative catalyst and a crippling crutch, all while dissecting the necessity for performing sober. With anecdotes and wisdom gleaned from the trenches, we explore the varying comedy landscapes of the Inland Empire and West Covina, offering a glimpse into the dedication it takes to command an audience's attention and the personal battles faced behind the scenes.
To wrap up, we don't just share laughs; we extend an open invitation to experience the thrall of comedy firsthand at our upcoming event in Paramount, Delic Comedy. Expect an electric mix of live podcasts, comedy showcases, and the pulsing heartbeat of a community eager for connection and hilarity. Johnny Gold, our comedy compatriot, confirms it's not an evening to be missed—a night where the dedication and passion of the stand-up world collide with the raw energy of an audience craving that communal joy. Mark your calendars, tune in to our musings, and prepare for an experience that promises to leave you both entertained and enlightened.
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"King without a Throne" is performed by Bad Hombres
King without a Throne Official Music Video
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King without a Throne
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Johnny Gold is a stand-up comic.
https://www.instagram.com/johnnygold777/
Ever wondered what it's like to walk the tightrope of humor, teetering between uproarious laughter and the deafening silence of a joke gone awry? Amber and I, Gill, are joined by the sharp-witted Johnny Gold to peel back the curtain on the stand-up comedy scene, revealing the relentless pursuit of that perfect punchline. Together, we navigate the murky waters of what constitutes engaging material versus what's downright offensive, and we shed light on the often invisible line that comedians dance upon every time they step on stage.
Strap in as we take you on a journey through open mic nights and bringer shows, from the unpredictability of Shirley's Temple in Long Beach to the pressures of the Comedy Chateau in North Hollywood. We get raw and real about the substance use that shadows the comedy circuit, and how it can be both a creative catalyst and a crippling crutch, all while dissecting the necessity for performing sober. With anecdotes and wisdom gleaned from the trenches, we explore the varying comedy landscapes of the Inland Empire and West Covina, offering a glimpse into the dedication it takes to command an audience's attention and the personal battles faced behind the scenes.
To wrap up, we don't just share laughs; we extend an open invitation to experience the thrall of comedy firsthand at our upcoming event in Paramount, Delic Comedy. Expect an electric mix of live podcasts, comedy showcases, and the pulsing heartbeat of a community eager for connection and hilarity. Johnny Gold, our comedy compatriot, confirms it's not an evening to be missed—a night where the dedication and passion of the stand-up world collide with the raw energy of an audience craving that communal joy. Mark your calendars, tune in to our musings, and prepare for an experience that promises to leave you both entertained and enlightened.
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"King without a Throne" is performed by Bad Hombres
King without a Throne Official Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNhxTYU8kUs
King without a Throne
https://open.spotify.com/track/7tdoz0W9gr3ubetdW4ThZ8?si=9a95947f58bf416e
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Speaker 1:Hi, I'm good how you doing. I'm good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, did you have a good nap today?
Speaker 1:I didn't nap today.
Speaker 2:No, no, why not?
Speaker 1:Because I was busy. I don't know why. To get in, I was busy.
Speaker 2:It made me think a lot of what Super Steve said about napping as a child. He said he didn't nap very much as a child. I didn't nap as a child, I just thought about napping in general.
Speaker 1:I think there's nothing wrong with napping. I think, there's even studies done about people that nap and being smarter and more recharged and centered, which makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just kidding. No, it does make sense.
Speaker 1:I think I just listened to my body. If my body says, hey, you know what I'm tired, I got to take a little nap. Who am I to deprive myself?
Speaker 2:Right, I think we covered it in that episode about. I started napping when I had my first office job. That was great because I would eat my lunch for 30 minutes. In the next 30 minutes I would nap and then clock in and then take a nap again.
Speaker 1:Nap for another hour until you're off.
Speaker 2:Right, but that's what I did. As far as napping goes, yeah, but don't sleep on us. Anyways, you have a MyGreta Weekly for today, right?
Speaker 1:Sure do.
Speaker 2:Let's roll on through with that MyGreta Weekly. And yes, our manager is a cat.
Speaker 1:Yes, he is. So 3LH will be at the Tiki Bar, the OC, on January 26th. Oh, I jumped over one. Ear Ringers will be performing at the Haven in Pomona on January 9th.
Speaker 2:P-Town.
Speaker 1:Yeah, la Rosa Noir will be at the empty bottle in Chicago on January 28th. The Paranoia and Prof Galactico will be performing at the Paramount on January 27th. Rundown Creeps recently released the new music video that you can find on YouTube or the link in their Instagram bio. Also, the Paranoia will be releasing new music videos shortly, so stay tuned for that. I can't wait to see what it looks like.
Speaker 2:What date is that coming out?
Speaker 1:It just says they're releasing new music.
Speaker 2:They're releasing new music. Keep watching them.
Speaker 1:I should see when. But yeah, for more details on these shows and their video, go to the artists' Instagram. Go support them, go show some love. Go listen to some new music Cool.
Speaker 2:Did you plug in the vinyl at migritonet?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I kind of jumped over that one. Not on purpose, cat Boss, but you can. Oh, if you like any of these artists, their vinyls are available on migritonet. So go over there and check it out and get yourself some vinyls.
Speaker 2:Boom, that's it, and I do have a date coming up the first week of February. I will have that. Check out my buzz on Instagram or my personal page at Ghibli Delic somewhere in Hollywood. I don't have all the details yet, but I'm going to be performing live in Hollywood, so keep watching out for that. Anything else? No, what about any of our events that we'll touch on this week? Nothing this weekend, right? Nothing this weekend.
Speaker 1:So for February definitely. So we might have some stuff lined up to announce for next week.
Speaker 2:We have a lot of stuff in February. I'm super stoked about that. But without further ado, let's get into today's guest, Mr Johnny Gold. He is a comedian. He performs all around Southern California. He's performed at the LAP Factory Chatterbox, and let's hear it from him. Johnny Gold, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3:Thank you, this is awesome. I was just on this real popular podcast called the Comedy Bureau and he did it outside and it was horrible and the mic cord was going in and out and this guy is so popular in Hollywood. Then when he gets ready to release, he goes look, the audio didn't come through. It was sketchy, and I'm like I drove all the way to Echo Park for your cheap ass to put me on a podcast and I had said some just horrible things about people too. It was awesome and everybody. It was like hello, we're talking about this, and then all of a sudden it'd be silent and then you'd hear me say something again, which I was mad. Plus, I spent a lot of money down there gas, parking, food, echo Park and Los Feliz, I guess, have you ever you've been down there? Yeah?
Speaker 1:Well, we promise that your episode will.
Speaker 3:I know I love it.
Speaker 1:I've never done a video podcast.
Speaker 3:I'm scared to look at myself. It's like God.
Speaker 2:Your audio is good. You will be all over YouTube for everybody to watch you and listen to you.
Speaker 1:I'm fantastic, thank you for having me and you can talk all the shit you want on here. And then we brought a cast.
Speaker 3:Oh, I brought some shit too. Yeah, and it's so professional. This guy had me outside. I go, why don't we go inside? And there was like people walking by looking at us. And like one guy was drooling on me. Whoa yeah, it was a person that was homeless which is fine, I don't care, but you know, when we're trying to talk, I go. Can we go inside the restaurant? He didn't want to do it.
Speaker 4:Jake.
Speaker 3:Kroger Comedy Bureau. Have you ever heard of the Comedy?
Speaker 2:Bureau no.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he lists all where all the mics are.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, cool yeah.
Speaker 3:And he also is the most pretentious person that's ever been done. Comedy that barely really does comedy, which is kind of a paradox.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how does that work out?
Speaker 3:Oh he is Listen to you, I think. I always think I'm the meanest. Yeah man, this guy goes to another level, really. Yeah, he actually is the curator for the Hyperion Theater in LA. It's a 75 seat theater, but we're not here to talk about him. We're here to talk about me.
Speaker 2:So how long have you been doing comedy, johnny?
Speaker 3:Since around 2005.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I started, but then I never got up because I started in the black rooms. I hate to say black rooms, but you know, it's just that's where I started, where I found. What city is that? It was like in LA, oh okay, it was a Hollywood adjacent, like the 10 freeway in Washington.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:I started there but I was so bad I couldn't get up. So I just really went up once every six months. You know how you're just starting out right. So you know how when you just start out depending I mean you could be fantastic, but I wasn't so I got deterred very easily. I would stop and I'd get stage fright. And then eventually, when I started doing comedy in Long Beach and Silver Lake and some other areas, I gained my confidence.
Speaker 2:Do you think because of the change of audience or the change of venue? Helped you out a little bit.
Speaker 3:It was a club where they booked like Cat Williams and all these people LUNEL from the Barat movies. But they gave me a chance but I just wasn't. I didn't feel good. I mean your first several years doing comedy, depending on how you seriously want to take it. You know it depends on how much you want to go at it. Some people go at it right away and then in five years are fantastic, or at least you know they think they are but it takes a long time. It really does. You could either do this for a hobby or professional. I believe I'm a professional comic that is broke because I don't get paid a lot.
Speaker 1:Like I'm a low.
Speaker 3:Well, you'll have to check the comedy basket I have at home. I guess, like I got passed at the Laugh Factory kind of. I did the audition through San Diego and they paid me like for featuring $150 here and there. But I'm a local headliner in the IE, I would say, but I'm a national like feature.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 3:I don't think.
Speaker 2:What is that? Well, like what do you mean? Like a national feature?
Speaker 3:Like a guy that goes before the headliner. That's 20 to 30 minutes. I've got that down, gotcha. Like a headliner does an hour and they can bring people in. You can pack it like a Tom Segura or a, you know, eddie Pepitone or any of these people that you like. Taylor Tomlinson.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Stuff like that oh.
Speaker 2:Yep, how is so you what you auditioned in San Diego?
Speaker 3:Well, they have the Laugh Factory. Yeah, they have the open mic in Hollywood, okay, and they also had one in San.
Speaker 4:Diego.
Speaker 3:So I just happened to be in an open mic and the young lady who was the manager saw me and said I'd like you to come down and audition down there, which was weird. Whoa, I know. At first I thought she was kidding because I've had so many people come up to me and say things so. And then she gave me a card. It was Leah Serrano, I don't that's not how you pronounce her last name, but she's the Laugh Factory manager still. And so I did a bunch of spots down there and then I showcased in Hollywood a couple months ago. It didn't go that great, because they make you do six minutes of clean material. Yeah, so Of clean. Yeah, well, I didn't when I was in San Diego, but the final showcase is six minutes clean. And they mean clean because there were some comics that were doing the auditions that swore right off the top. So I was helped. Yeah, you met Nick Laney. Yeah, he's a Christian comic.
Speaker 2:So he's really a clean Christian comic. That's not just a yeah. Well, he's a.
Speaker 3:Christian, but he's a comic and I don't know. I've been influenced by him a lot because I did this show called Trigger Warning, where you do seven minutes of clean and seven minutes of dirty material. Oh, that's fun, right. So then I got the best compliment of my life I believe it's from Nick working with Nick a lot, we're very close. The audience member said oh, I couldn't tell the difference between your dirty and your clean.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 3:That's right, because I worked at it so I really didn't have trouble. I'm not really a dirty comic, but when you take out the certain subjects that Nick has his own way. But I don't think he wants to be classified as a clean comic. He just wants to be classified as a comic that writes good jokes. It's kind of like ato be known as a clean comic is kind of cheapening what he does. No.
Speaker 2:I think that it takes away the complexity of writing clean because, there's a big percentage of comics that you would file as a dirty comic right or a non-clean comic. It's more, I praise comics that write clean right off the bat, because it's not easy, it's very difficult.
Speaker 3:That's difficult. And also to write original things, talk about things that nobody's talking about. He does that too. I've been doing that my whole time. I see what people talk about after doing this so long. It's disturbing. There's a lot of, I mean, everybody knows what it is. It's a lot of just dumb humor.
Speaker 1:Do you think thatlike for both of you? Do you think that comedy necessarily needs? I mean, obviously there's a need for every type of comedy, right, but do you think that it needs to, bebecause I mean, I've gone to comedy shows where every single comic is dirty and it's funny, but there's times that it's made me, likelike, you know, kind of tilt my head, and again, I know that it's comedy. I know that part of it, you know, grand majority might not be real, but we had an instance where we went to you know an open mic and we had someone that went up there and he started out and you know, we kind of laughed at the beginning like okay, like this is awkward. And then he went into like I don't know poetry or something and it was all about sexual assault and he was describing like assault and it wasn't.
Speaker 1:Eventhere was no punchline, there was nothing, it was just him spewing out these words. And then I kind of was like wait, like thiswhere did this go, like you know, and I kind of felt like, okay, it's his art and things like that. But it did make me feel very uncomfortable and I could see other people's faces very uncomfortable where we were like how much of this is actually not true. And how much of this is actually true? So I guess what my question is like do you think that comedy does need some type of dirtiness in order for it to like capture an audience? Like, is that what the audience is used to now, like just having, like you know, like some dirty jokes in there, or just doesn't really need it?
Speaker 3:Well, I believe you don't knowyou'll never know what the audience wants.
Speaker 3:Like Bill Hicks said it the best when he would say a lot of stuff that people thought waslike Lenny Bruce, maybe they said some stuff politically, orbut he goes. What do you want me to do? To interview each audience member. I mean, come on, the guy that did the spoken word and talked about that you know a lot of people don't even do this all the time. So if you get like an open mic or that just started, he might want to talk about something tragic that happened to him, but he doesn't know how to put it into an entertainment form, so you can't really judge him for that. Now, if you're going paying $25 to $50 to see some guy and he's doing that, then you have every right to write a bad relp or yelp review. Relp or yelp what?
Speaker 4:am.
Speaker 3:I I agree. I don't know what people get offended by, because I talk about everything from politics to my personal life, to tragedy too. I have no idea. That's a great question that she asked.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think personally, being a fan of comedy, being very new to this I think that there's a way to do it. There's a way to walk a thin line, and I think that it comes with experience in writing, and also it comes with experience in performing too. I think writing in general, because the stage presence that comes with experience, and then, vice versa, writing comes with experience too. But I think there's a way to do it. You can be dirty, but there's a way to do it, to walk that thin line between and that takes experience and takes moving words and moving phrases around or using different types of techniques in writing that you can do it.
Speaker 3:I think that's why Nick does cling comedy, because what you just explained seems almost impossible. You know what I'm saying. Listen, I admire your diagram there, but once you start thinking on stage on what you're gonna do, then you'll lose the audience. Like, you have to entertain and that takes stage, like you said, going out failing a lot and failing and failing and failing. And that guy that she said maybe it was bad, maybe he does that for five years and you go, wow, that's what he was trying to talk about, but maybe he just doesn't go on stage.
Speaker 3:You know, once you get on stage like I watched Joe Coy at the Golden Globes, who's probably the nicest guy I met him when I first saw it the nicest guy in the world you can't get any nicer. But I think the people in that room if I had to generalize is they look at stand-up comedy like anybody can do it. You know, you go into an open mic, you see a guy and you're like I could do that, but nobody ever goes. Yeah, I could play professional football, and then the next week they're out there and you know, or it's just actors, such as those people at the Golden Globes. I'm not speaking for them, but I don't think they know how hard it is to do this. Good, there's only several people that have ever done this. There's a lot of actors that can act, especially on film. Because my parents were actors, you know you look in the camera a certain way and they might think that you were insane, but you don't even have to say anything because the camera it has a lot to do with looks.
Speaker 3:But when you're on stage for an hour in front of people and you're writing and doing all this to capture their attention and go, wow, you know Chris Rock. Whatever it takes years. Have you ever watched Kevin Hart? When he first started he sounded like that guy she was talking about, like a lunatic. He's up there screaming and yelling Chris Rock. He was very good when he first started but he might be like an anomaly. I've never seen a comic the first five years that I would define as a comic. I think a lot of people look at open micers and they go, oh, he's been doing it two years or five years. I've been doing it for a year. I'm better than that. That's the worst thing you could ever say, because you're just doing it yourself. It doesn't matter what the other people do yeah Right, I don't know. That's my opinion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's a comedy, is so subjective and it's hard to talk about because it's people have preferences, right? I mean, when you're writing you have a preference. Sure, I agree with that. For the first couple of months you're still trying to figure out, or maybe years you're trying to figure about, like what's my thing?
Speaker 3:like what's my voice who?
Speaker 4:are you?
Speaker 2:Who am I with my comedy? I think the when I first started writing I never really thought about that. I just thought certain things are funny to me and I'll write down a note, come back to it, see if I can come up with the setup or a punch for it with ideas. But I really don't like now I don't know, like what's my voice? What am I trying to say? I think after each joke I tend to think what am I trying to say here, like what's, but then that also takes away from the joke too. I mean there's maybe I'm just overthinking it of it. I mean I don't know how do you approach that.
Speaker 3:Well, the first five years or even longer, you're still figuring out how to write material Right, like you'll level up. You'll know when you level up you'll write something and go oh wow, that was, that is changing my act. But in the beginning I mean I was just talking drivel, it's just nothing.
Speaker 4:I didn't even know what to.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'll be honest with you, I've never really seen a comic in the first five years Like I look at them and go, oh, this guy's way ahead of the game. I've met some people who can write real good you know, write better than me but in the end it's just, it's the hardest thing. Like again to acting. Jennifer Lawrence is that her name? The actress.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:She never took an acting class.
Speaker 2:This is the girl from the Mockingbird movies.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, civilized Hunger games, yeah, civilized playbook, whatever, yeah, and she got an Academy Award. But with standup comedy you can't do that. You can't come out of the gate and like your first movie, like be as good as somebody that's been doing it 20 years. That's the paradox in this whole thing and I think a lot of people don't understand that. They just walk in a mic and I've had people come up to me at mics and go well, what's going on, john, why didn't this work? I go how long have you been doing it? Like six weeks. And I'm like dude, come on six weeks. Can you do anything good in six weeks? No, no, I can't even make my bed. Good, I've been doing it for 50 years, I don't know. I just I think it's a very ignorant art. I think a lot of people don't take it seriously. Gotcha, they just see I'm out here, I'm at an open mic, I'm having edibles and I'm drinking and I'm sounding like oatmeal being poured into a bowl, right, it's just so horrible.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna be honest with you. That's how I approached it the first month and a half. I wanna say it was a good place to start out, right, but it wasn't feasible. It wasn't feasible long-term if I was going to be getting buzzed every time going up there.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's what. That's a problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3:I know all the comics because I do comedy in the IE since like 2015. I only know one other person that's sober out there and that's Nick Laney Gotcha. There might be some others, but I only know him. We're like family. So, you know, going on stage it can only let. First of all, you could kill yourself in like 10 years because every night these people are got a pipe in there, you know like a whatever it's called and they got drinks, they got Bud Light and they're slobbering on themselves and they actually think that'll be delusional because you'll be doing that for five years and then one day you'll go oh, I gotta quit doing this.
Speaker 3:And you'll have to start over because all what it does drugs and alcohol it pushes your emotions down. That's what it's for, Right, Like my mom is dying. If I did drugs or alcohol I'd be dead. So I know I can compartmentalize it being sober and go okay, she's gonna get better, she's gonna, you know. And you just can't do that in comedy, Like I'm glad that you're not doing it. I understand people like to be up there with a beer, People like to smoke a joint.
Speaker 3:You know a lot of people tell me I've got stage fright. That's never gonna go away. Jerry Lewis was like 93, he goes. If you're not getting nervous, what's wrong?
Speaker 2:with you. I think we talked about Mitch Hedberg when seven was on. Oh my God, dude, this guy was amazing. He was a professional, he was just an awesome writer, an awesome comic he had stage fright.
Speaker 3:He was the goat, in my opinion, because he didn't like Richard Pryor, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle they all have this lineage of kind of doing the same thing, but nobody ever did with Mitch.
Speaker 4:Hedberg, I never saw.
Speaker 3:maybe there was somebody in the 20s or 30s, but he was a heroin addict, yes, and that killed him. And he was young and he was amazing. And that's what I try to tell people, especially in my scene in the Inland Empire. There's a lot of people that could be good, but they'll never be good because they can't go on stage sober. That's only. That shit only lasts for a long. You know there's fentanyl, I don't know. You know, I'm tired of telling people, if somebody wants to go up there with a heroin needle out of their arm, they're not gonna get booked anyway.
Speaker 2:Right, and especially it's that too, because there's people are watching right, there's bookers in the audience I went. When I first got booked at a club, it was at Open Mic, unhurt. I didn't even think about, I didn't even think about that. This is how naive and new I am Right. I didn't even know that was possible. Oh, to perform at a club. To perform at an Open Mic and to be invited to do a showcase at a club. That was just. I wasn't even thinking about that.
Speaker 2:I was just going at a Shirley's Temple in Long.
Speaker 3:Beach, shirley's Temple, that's a club, that's a cool ass thing.
Speaker 2:No, that's where the Open Mic was. Oh okay, the club was called, or is called, comedy Chateau North Hollywood. Oh yeah, that's a shithole.
Speaker 3:Don't think that's a joke. First of all, let me backtrack.
Speaker 2:I'll be performing there February.
Speaker 3:All right, go see Gil. First of all, Shirley Temple used to be my drink.
Speaker 2:So Shirley's Temple in Long Beach. So somebody saw you, Somebody's the Booker there.
Speaker 3:Oh nice, who was the Booker's name? Yeah, we don't want to talk about it. Well, everybody knows and Lesson Gil said I could be open on this part. Everybody knows that's a bringer show club, Except for people like Kevin Hardy just drops in and does Of course.
Speaker 3:But they, you know, they're Open Mics or clubs. My Open Mics are like the ones I do in the England Empire and wherever else I can find Orange County. I did one in Orange County, it was pretty cool and but theirs is, you know, but the Comedy Chateau. They do that. So they get people, you know, they get your friends to go down there. But if you had your friends watch you every that would be a good. You know, they had, like, if you tried out for football and they said, all you had to do is bring your friends, of course they would say you're fantastic, then you would play pro football and you would die, right. So that's what this is like. True, your friends are gonna be watching you. You're gonna get used to them being enamored over you.
Speaker 2:I don't like my friends going to the shows.
Speaker 3:I mean you don't have to invite anybody. Oh yeah, no, I do. All right well, who you can invite? Strangers on the street, right yeah?
Speaker 1:But you know, you know I mean regardless of what, what it is or what it isn't. I think that maybe it's good practice. Yeah, I was gonna say it's good practice and it's a little more into getting okay. Now you need to be a little more professional. This is how it works. This is what you know. They kind of send you this and that, versus showing up to just an open mic.
Speaker 3:I agree.
Speaker 1:So I think it's. Yes, it's not top notch. Yeah, maybe it's not where you want to still be in 10 years. But, I think, to get a foot into the door and get your feet wet absolutely.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, my old thing is is is if you do the open mics and I know it's a bitch you've seen that the one at Claremont wasn't bad, the pizza place that wasn't bad. That's where I met you.
Speaker 4:Yes, that wasn't bad?
Speaker 3:No, it wasn't. It had some audience members. But there are open mics in Los Angeles and Hollywood where you're performing in front of other comics and those are horrible, I agree. So if you want to do, you could do whatever you want. I'm just saying that club is a very low level club. You might have to edit this part.
Speaker 2:Oh, I forgot. We don't edit on the podcast.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, you know it's fine. It's fine You're getting stage time. Hey, listen, if you're willing to do it. It's a free country. Yeah, I mean, look, they stormed the capital. It seemed to work. I don't know, man, I think so. Yeah, I mean, to each his own. I'm just saying that a lot of these bringer shows. You know, did you want to say something, cause I'm rambling?
Speaker 2:No, no, I think just it's great we're having this conversation, because I'm super new, like, I think, especially with podcasting and comedy and going open mics, it's, there's no, really there's no rule book or manual to say, hey, this is what you got to do. The only thing that I know right now is getting as much stage time as possible and keep working, keep writing. That's awesome.
Speaker 4:That's all I know right now.
Speaker 2:So if somebody's going to book me at wherever, I'll fucking take it.
Speaker 3:I don't blame you, and you could do local shows too, right and with audiences like. That's why I like the IE.
Speaker 2:Wait, there's a comedy scene in the IE. Who was the one that?
Speaker 3:didn't say. My friend, leo, wanted to bring that up. I think you met Leo at the, did I? The tall brooding guy that lingers over you and judges your every movement, the?
Speaker 2:first, the first time, that was our first time right At the, at a goofball night or yeah, yeah, Mine too. I think. So it was my first night there and it was awesome to go there and have people recognize me because of the podcast.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the gentleman Leo's the one. He's a podcast freak man. He still send me podcasts. Look what they said. I go wow, where'd you get this Right? He goes on deep dives, but I think he brought it up to. Carlos Madrona said that there wasn't any comics in the IE. I'm not going to quote that. I don't know what he said because I never listened to a damn thing. He ever says anyway Give a fuck about that motherfucker. I got certain friends in this business.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:I don't care what Carlos Madrona does. I know he worked at a, at somewhere he did something, but you know, he could say whatever he wants. Right, yeah, I'm not down with that.
Speaker 2:Was that the line? That there wasn't any IE?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, but he would.
Speaker 3:I don't know if he said that or not, because I will not listen to anything he says. Right, this is on deep, deep, deep background, from a guy named Leo. I don't even know his last name.
Speaker 2:Just some dude named Leo.
Speaker 3:No, I've known him. He's like a family to me, but I don't know his last name. I think it's Zeninga. I'm messing that up, Zenga. Zinger yeah then he went by Leo Fontana like a porn name. Listen, leo. When you do listen to this, concentrate on doing more than three minutes of comedy without boring people. Worry about your stupid name. Oh, but there is a mic. I did have a couple of things. There's a mic called Chatterbox, which is my all-time favorite mic.
Speaker 2:How is it? It's awesome.
Speaker 3:I still haven't been out there. Well, if you go on Thursday, if you have time, get there at eight, okay. The only drawback is sometimes they have so many comics they only take the first 30, and they have a non-binary gender fluidity list. I didn't make it up, steve Fernandez did, which is fine women's list. So they get to go before you. They kind of intermingle it in. It's a great mic because you'll really find out if you're good at comedy, because it's very pretentious and a lot of Hollywood comics come up there that do good work. They're on the road, they're really good comics. And then, if he likes you, steve, you get booked for the Sunday show and I don't know if you've ever gone to their Saturday or Sunday show. They've got some killers Haven't been there. Yeah, if you look on Chatterbox.
Speaker 2:And you say it's Thursday's nights.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Thursday nights. Thursday at eight. Thursday at eight.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's that far from here.
Speaker 2:No, it's not. Yeah, it's not very far. That's kind of cool yeah.
Speaker 3:I like open mics that are close man. Oh yeah, me too. I went to one in Orange County. It was called the Border Cantina. It was really good. It's just right over the 57.
Speaker 2:A lot of comics or a lot of. No, there was audience ones, Audience okay.
Speaker 3:And you can network. See, that's another good thing about doing open mics. That are good. There'll be bookers there and if they like you, they'll even give you a chance and then you can go do their rooms Right. You know, it might be a local show and I don't know if you've done any local shows besides what I saw. Yeah, I don't know, I haven't seen you out, but at the Pizza Place, but maybe you go to other places. You have your own show right when you do the poetry and comedy, don't you? Yeah?
Speaker 2:So we are starting an open mic. I'll give you some more details about that off air, but we're working to do an open mic comedy, open mic features, and then also have a live podcast. Oh yeah, you got the podcast down. Good Right, so I kind of wanna encompass my two loves together yeah, that's great and mash them up to see what we can do.
Speaker 3:What would be like at a restaurant or something?
Speaker 2:It's gonna be at a. What's the square footage of the gallery space? We have a space 1200. Oh, that's awesome, 1200.
Speaker 3:That's perfect it's perfect Four feet.
Speaker 2:How big is the stage? We built a platform that is a 15 by five, 15 by 10?, 15 by 10. 15 by 10 platform. It's gonna be awesome. I'll show you pictures off air but, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3:Are you gonna do it once a month?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna do it once a month. I'm gonna have a pilot to see how that like a pilot episode type of thing.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's cool yeah.
Speaker 2:To see how it works. The operation I think I have the operation down, the audio video. I have that down. It's just a matter of getting people in the seats and then also I have the features already I'm working on getting a band. It's gonna be this whole thing, dude. It's gonna be amazing. Hopefully it works out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like performing with bands and stuff. It's really cool. It's different too. Yeah, it's nice. You don't need to see 30 horrible comics. You're talking about your dick or their pussy or whatever they talk. God, sometimes I go down to the Hollywood improv and see a friend of mine. Then I see a famous comic and they start talking about sex and I think, is this gonna be deep? But they always end it with some 17 year old 1980s punchline that doesn't make and you're like, wow, that was the lady on 24. I really like her as a comic and an artist, but why did she have to go there? That's the stage I am in in comedy right now.
Speaker 3:I really like to look for the gems of people who really know how to you know, out here in the Inland Empire. It was actually. I mean, I bought my house in 2012. So I wasn't out here. Before that. I was in Hollywood, la, in a bunch of different places. But in 2005, rick Rome started the scene out here at Liam's Irish Pub in Colton and Joey Diaz used to go there. Really, oh yeah, a lot of comics. Oh yeah, he had a gang. It was a crazy. I got to do it just before it closed and then it closed and then Rick Rome kind of went away. He still does comedy. I really don't know him that way.
Speaker 3:Rome or Rome, rome, rick, rome, r-o-n. And then what happened was they had Flappers in Claremont.
Speaker 2:I remember when they had that that was a great place to a good mic.
Speaker 3:You know it was a really good open mic with audience members and maybe 30 comics, but it was kind of a nice little hang you would have loved to kill. That's your wife, right? I don't want to say girl for you.
Speaker 2:We're not married yet. We're Mexican married.
Speaker 3:I love Mexican married. I've been that before. We're Mexican engaged.
Speaker 1:We're Mexican married, but once you start living with each other, they categorize you as married. Yeah, I've done that before.
Speaker 3:We're common law, so you could take out the house that's what I like no, but that was a good mic, but they closed that down?
Speaker 2:When did they close it down? Because I remember getting a free ticket. I never went. I left them in my truck and I sold my truck. But I got two free tickets to the Flappers comedy club in Claremont. I never went. I want them from work, I think.
Speaker 3:That's a good question. I don't know when they closed down.
Speaker 2:That sucks.
Speaker 3:It had to be three or four years ago. It was. I mean, you wouldn't believe everybody loved it so much, you know.
Speaker 2:Now they just have a Flappers and Burbank right.
Speaker 3:Just one there and I mean, you know it's an open mic. You can go there for the audition. Matter of fact, you might want to try that. They have auditions like on a Tuesday and then it's similar to the Chateau I would say one level above maybe where they have you, they'll book you on a show, but then you'll still have to bring like five people.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, Is that pretty common bringer shows right, that's what they call them.
Speaker 3:It's the most popular thing. That's ever worsened. The state of comedy Is that how it is now. Yeah, well, it bringer shows literally started like in the early 2000s, like 2003,. Because when I started 2005, I heard about them. I never did them. I've never done a bringer show, so I just did the open mics. But yeah, it seems to run rampant right now, like there's the Jimmy Shin. You know this guy. He gets comics and actually some IE comics have been pimped out to do his show.
Speaker 3:He's like a pimp, but not even a good pimp, cause he doesn't have really good looking women. Fuck, he's got horrible comics. So that's. He's not even the good kind of pimp where you see some like woman with big titties that you might want to fuck. But no he's got dumb comics to do his show and they're horrible people, those comics, that even decide to do it because it cheapens everything. I believe in Gil.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like I mean, isn't it the same in certain cultures? Like what do you think about now when you see the movie uh, stand and deliver, which is my I haven't seen it in a very long time Right. The way they portray Latinos on that might be a little backdated now. If they had the new, stand and deliver and this is what I'm talking about with these bringer shows to where it just cheapens the art. They don't write, they don't have to write, they bring all their friends. And then Jimmy Schengos.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I see, I think I understand where you're getting at.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean that might have been a horrible example, but I do those from time to time, let me, let me give you an example.
Speaker 2:Okay, so say, you're doing a show right and I bring 50 people.
Speaker 3:Wow, that's great. I'm glad you know that many people. But go ahead If you bring 50 people and they pay to see you.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying like, say, I bring 50 people Right and I'm on stage. I kill it because all my friends go there to see me, everybody's applauding. All right, go Gil. It kinda it.
Speaker 3:it cheapens it a little bit because yeah, that's exactly the point I've been trying to make for the last half hour that I didn't Because you made it in one sentence Because the perception of me on stage is good, because I have my friends and family in the audience, yeah, and when the owner of the club sees you on a book or show, they gotta take you seriously, right.
Speaker 3:Like, say, you were on a real book show with like Dionne Cole and Taylor Tomlinson and Kat Williams whoever and then you opened up, the owner of the place the one who makes all the decisions that's never seen you before might be in there to check you out, but on a bringer show she ain't checking you out, she's just glad that somebody bought 80 people and now they're gonna make their booze and their rent Right. That's why they do it. That's why these people do it. Like I said, it's to each his own, but we have some comics in our area that just started doing them and you know they're new and they're on these Jimmy Shen shows and it's just. I don't know.
Speaker 2:What do you think about? I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3:No, like you said it perfectly, you bring your friends. They all love you. You bring your parents first. That's the first people you bring, especially if you're under 20s or 30s, like, hey, dad, come on down, bring all the nephews and the family. Tell grandmother to get off her oxygen tent. Come on down, we're gonna do comedy. Meanwhile they're watching 15 comics. They can't do comedy and say the same thing every time. So when they go see Chris Rock they're going oh this is what comedy is Not that shitty. Jimmy Shin slash comedy, chateau slash whatever. Carol, there's so many of them that you know it's disturbing. But I understand why they do it. Jimmy Shin does it, I think, because he gets good context. Like even during the pandemic he had Bill Burr on one of his shows. So now he's got in contact with Bill Burr.
Speaker 2:Wait, hold on, is Jimmy Shin good or Jimmy Shin bad?
Speaker 3:Well, his comedy? No, I don't, I don't, he's just a bringer producer. Oh okay, his comedy is whatever.
Speaker 2:And he's a comic, I don't know what kind of comedy you like.
Speaker 3:Give me a comic that you like and I'll tell you if it's good or bad.
Speaker 2:I like Mitch Hubbard. Right now, I like Mitch Hubbard. He's not even like. I like Stephen Wright.
Speaker 3:Right, those are two Exactly. I like Jimmy Shin. Bill Hicks is probably my number one. Bill Hicks all those three Jimmy Shin couldn't even polish their shoes. He would be like something you would find on a gum underneath a table compared to those people. Right, yeah, he's just a guy that.
Speaker 3:Hey, listen, a lot of my friends do them and you know I always want to tell them that you know you sold your soul, like the Twilight Zone, the guy you want to live forever. And then at the end of the Twilight Zone you find out it's the devil Mm. So if you just all this is you're doing, you could tell the difference between a Bringer comic and a real comic. And I'll talk about the scene I'm in, about the good comics. Like, we have a couple of roast battlers that have won the Ontario Improv, the Cesarino's Renoso, that's how I just butchered his name, but he's won it like four times. He doesn't do Bringer shows, he has to write all his own shit.
Speaker 3:Sandy, another guy, right, the people that start doing these Bringer shows, they kind of give up at an early stage because they get them the first year in comedy. That's their like. Like I said, that's why they're like pimps, mm. You know, like pimps in my neighborhood in the 70s and I was born in 64. You see a 14 year old walking down the street. That pimp is going to trick her out, he's going to turn her out. That's basically what Jimmy Shin and all these people are doing. They're looking, they're the doughy-eyed artist. I gotta get up at the improv. Right, gotcha, come with me. You know it's disturbing.
Speaker 2:So it's these promoters that are.
Speaker 3:Of course, it's the promoters.
Speaker 2:Are looking at. Who can? Oh, they've they pretty much bring whoever, whether they're funny or not.
Speaker 3:Right, because they're bringing 10 to 15, 20 people.
Speaker 2:They're not looking at the act, they're not looking at the art of comedy.
Speaker 3:But they don't even know how to Jimmy Shin. And these people don't want to do comedy Gotcha. They look at it like, oh, this guy's telling a joke about whatever. He's good enough for my show. He's going to bring 10 people, and if you have 10 people on a show, that's 100 people. I don't care where you are, that's a lot of people, right, and they got to pay to get in. It's not free.
Speaker 2:Oh, the comic's getting paid. Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I don't know what they're getting stage time but maybe some of these places that have you sell tickets. You do get a percentage, but that's over my I don't know. You start doing that. It's just yeah, you're going to concentrate on getting good at comedy. Just go out every night and do comedy, Right, what about?
Speaker 2:the fourth wall? Hell, no, that's good Fourth wall. I don't know.
Speaker 3:Before we even we're going through all the clubs. All right, let me break it down. The Laugh Factory in Hollywood Break it down.
Speaker 2:Dude, I am so new to this I know I'm glad to be talking with you. I appreciate it man.
Speaker 3:I love this whole setup. It's great. Already, I'm going to send a text to the comedy bureau and have them canceled.
Speaker 2:I got to.
Speaker 3:Dummy. I spent $80 on food and I'm here in this place and it's beautiful. Look at that. You even made me look good on camera, which is impossible.
Speaker 2:It was the Barber Strike Center filter.
Speaker 3:I only like Nick Laney's cameras. He's got the good ones yeah good ones.
Speaker 1:When you look at him, you go that's me.
Speaker 3:Oh, nice, but no, ok, if you take the Three Manager Club, the comedy store, let's start there. Ok, you have to email them, I believe Friday between noon and 1. I'll give you the email. Then they send you an email on Monday and say you're in the potluck and you got to be at the comedy store, like at 6 o'clock in Hollywood, and Emily, the booker, will look at you. You might want to wait and not do that for like a year or so, because if you go down there and bomb and she looks at you, they remember that shit, but that's in the future.
Speaker 3:Laugh Factory. You stand outside from 12 noon to whenever on Sunset Boulevard and you could do that right away. And then the improv one is a little harder. In Hollywood it's like a 5 o'clock on a weekday and there's like 200 comics and you get three minutes and sometimes you don't get pulled. So if I had to pick one, I'd pick the comedy store, because you get the guaranteed spot and you know, I'm pretty sure people go down there and have never done comedy before you get up there and do three minutes, but it's intimidating as well. Three minutes, yeah, ooh, I like that.
Speaker 2:That's a challenge I like three minutes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, you just started. Three minutes is perfect for you. I like three minutes.
Speaker 2:I like one minute.
Speaker 3:Well, if you like one-liner comics but you don't really do one-liners, I saw you. You're pretty good. You might be ahead of the game.
Speaker 2:I have a few.
Speaker 3:You're a good writer and you take it pretty seriously.
Speaker 2:I do.
Speaker 3:You know a lot of people in my scene, like in 2005,. I believe% Rick Rome retired or something, or maybe it was 2015 or I don't know. But then this other group called the buddy system took it over. You can get them on Instagram and they set up these open mics in the Inland Empire, riverside mainly. I don't know if you've been to Riverside on University Avenue. I've been there. Yeah, they have. I think they changed the name Worthington's on Thursday, which is the best mic because there's real people.
Speaker 2:That's what you want, right? Yeah, that's what you want.
Speaker 3:And then they have another one at Back to the Grind later this month, which is good. They probably have real people, maybe not as many as the first one. Then they have the riff off at Brooks Bar Golf Club. They have locals there where you pick something out of the hat and you riff on the topic oh that's cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, on the buddy system, they got all that. You know they started that in 2015, 16, with a bunch of people Aaron Chase he moved to Chicago George Ferrito, william Henderson, stephanie, michelle, a lot of Nick Lanny. A lot of people had input on keeping the shows going and they're always good. They also have bookshows that if they see at the open mic they'll put you on one of their bookshows. They're breweries. They have one every three or four months at the Ontario Improv. Now, that's an open mic. That's not bad. The Ontario Improv, which is like once every six months.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they used to have it every month, but now they got the roast battle, which is very popular. They want to pack it out. Remember, those people want the place packed. They don't care how they do it, so really you have to blame the club Once every eclipse in the world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's just crazy.
Speaker 3:It's kind of sad that they don't nurture young talent, because there's probably a lot of great talent out here, yeah. The closest thing I could say that nurtures young talent is chatterbox, because they get a lot of good comics. How long has that? Been open for, oh, like 13 years Really, that's even Anna's is cool man, he's got a nice little thing going.
Speaker 2:We have to get out there, Amber, because I hear so much positive things about that spot that I haven't been able to get out there.
Speaker 3:Well, if I had to compare, they're not the Inland Empire.
Speaker 2:It's West Covina. Yeah, it's not LA County, it's LA County, yeah.
Speaker 3:But if I had to compare our scene, which the buddy system runs, and there's another group called the COC Court of Comics. These are all beginning comics. Basically there are some vets that go out there and do the mic, but that's Dick Salas, right.
Speaker 2:The Court of Comics, yeah.
Speaker 3:And Corey Baldwin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3:And they have. University of Riverside sometimes has a mic out there. It's kind of cool, but these are relative. The chatterbox is more for people that really take comedy seriously. There are some hobbyists there, but I'm talking about there are some damn good comics at Chatterbox, some that open up for Joe Liss, some that are touring. They go. You go down there and go. God, you don't see these at the open mics.
Speaker 3:But the Inland Empire, I would say, is a good starting round for newer comics to get their feet wet, to learn how to take the mic out of the mic, stand and move the mic and talk about things and you know, the first couple years, right, and then after a couple years, then you can go anywhere you want, but it just depends on who you are, I guess, and how you want to do it. A lot of people like to get high and get drunk and you know I don't take those people seriously. In LA, inland Empire, chatterbox, the Valley, I just I see somebody sucking on one of those pipes and then talking to me. I just dismiss them. That would be like 90% of the comics. It's, it's. I just don't believe they know what they're saying when they're on stage.
Speaker 2:I don't understand that when, when I get stoned or when I have gotten stoned, I could barely talk to somebody, let alone go on stage in front of strangers or in front of people that have hit the stage or not. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3:I got in an argument with one of the buddies, George Ferrito, and I asked him why is everybody here so stoned and high and this and that? And he said he had anxiety. And I'm like, dude, welcome to the world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, welcome to being a human being.
Speaker 3:Yeah, here's the thing. I am not against my mom, who was 90 something. She used to take edibles for her mental illness. I was totally for that, but she's not going on stage and wasting people's time, she is trying to survive. Yeah, and that's kind of sad when you're an open mic and all these people are high and drunk and you're in the back and there's a packed audience a lot of times at these places out here because they get real people at buddy system mics and then you're up there and the drunk idiot stoner guy gets up there and half the audience leaves. How do you think that makes me feel, make certain other people that take it seriously, that want to get better, not just be famous, but get to another level like level up, I guess they call it. I don't know that's what the right term is, but yeah.
Speaker 3:And then you'll get there faster. Listen, you can't wait to go home, or after your set get high, you could go up there sober and then go out into the parking lot and smoke a joint.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's legal.
Speaker 3:Right, but I mean I'm done talking about this with people because they don't listen.
Speaker 2:You know, it's just ridiculous. It's just like you literally have conversations.
Speaker 3:Oh, I would tell everybody if I could, I would this podcast. Oh, I'll share it with everybody. That, I think, is an idiot. And this getting up there and just wasting people's time oh, yeah, I wrote this one. I was high. Well, okay, we'll go home, because if 30 comics show up and you get 20 of them, they're idiots. Imagine if they stayed home.
Speaker 2:Oh, it gets so tiring sometimes too, when you're going to open mics and there's tons of comics right. I've loved comedy for a very long time, very long time since I was a young kid. Now, practicing it and writing and going to open mics and going to comedy shows, it's almost like every comic that goes up there oh I'm stoned right now. Or some version of that, oh I'm super stoned right now. But let me say this. And then it's like every other comic that's saying this like is anybody sober in here? And I get it, I get it. It's a place, it's a hangout.
Speaker 3:It's a hangout, it is too. They're 20s, and they're 20s or 30. I think you should get your shit together, but that's just me but. I get it. Somebody's coming out. They're 22. They're having a good time? Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. Those people are pretty. Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:No, those people are pretty noticeable, like there's some 22, 23 year old kids that like to party. I liked to party when I was that age. Of course I didn't do stand up comedy, but I give them a break because I think come on, man, they're out here. You don't know what their life's like, let the kid live. But once you hit 30 and you're still doing this shit, I don't take you seriously.
Speaker 3:I just don't, because you're wasting people's time and if you're getting booked on a show that you have no business being booked on and you're high all the time and you bomb on that show, it's going to be a reflection of our scene. So they're not going to, they're going to ask. Some guy from the Inland Empire came.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not going to book him anymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we already get bad comics. Excuse me, we already get bad comics from Hollywood that come out here that you know. They like where am I, the Inland, what you know? Like you don't know where you are. Right, those people need to stay the fuck away. But out here we can kind of control our scene because it's a small scene, Right, you know, we, everybody knows everybody out here. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think what I was going to say with like, with that where you're kind of commenting about you know being there like high and drunk and things like that, and people that maybe it's their first time going on a comedy show or or you know going to that place and then they see that and it and it does kind of taint and puts a damper on the comedy scene, because then they start thinking like, ah, that's all they do is they go, they drink, they get high and that's what comedy is and oh, you know it, it sets a standard for other comedians and and I don't think that it's fair because it, you know, a lot of people generalize that that's what it is or that's what everybody does, and it and it kind of sucks because, like, you know people that are actually out there hustling and and you know writing their jokes and doing things like that, and then you know it's I don't know. I think it does put a damper on the entire comedy scene.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then also I also. I'm sorry to interrupt you, no, no. Also the people that came to watch that shit show. You think they're going to come back, because on these open mics, you know, sometimes you get regular people, you know, and they come back and back and back. But are they going to come back, back and back when you see these people high all the time? Probably not. Some people will because they're high, you know, I've seen it. Yeah, Some people like it.
Speaker 2:I guess, I don't know, Like like the comedy, like the comic, that is high.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean no, I'm just saying like there's probably audience members that high someone's on stage.
Speaker 2:I'm high. They're like yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, the one guy. So what do I know? I don't know, man.
Speaker 1:What do you think about? Like, like comedy show etiquette? Right, like, as far as for the crowd, because I've been in crowds where people are talking over comedians. You know people aren't paying attention Like, like, what do you what would be your ideal like crowd etiquette? I guess I would say like what would be your ideal crowd?
Speaker 3:For them to shut the fuck up until it's time to laugh.
Speaker 3:That's what I like. But if you go to a comedy club a good one they'll escort you out the building. Eva Heckler, they don't even really they'll just. At the Hollywood improv I used to know the bouncer down there, like in 2009,. He'd go, just he'd be talking to me, goes just a minute, john. He'd take a guy and throw him out the door. That's what's up. That's awesome.
Speaker 3:But at the some of these local shows that you do, there's a good one called Gray Wolf. Stephanie Michelle runs it. You know they're in there. It's a brewery, they're having a good time. And then you know they know a comedy show's coming, but maybe they haven't seen these people in a while, so they're gonna continue to talk to them. Well, that's too bad. You're gonna have to get used to people talking and then maybe it's like a training ground and then when you go into a club, they're not gonna be talking at the comedy chateau because it's a club. And plus, when people pay to get in like if you pay $25 to see Chris Rock and somebody was talking next to you, I'd tell them to shut the fuck up. I would.
Speaker 3:But if it's a free show, when people are talking in the back. Sometimes there's not a lot of audiences. I'm guilty of this comics in the back talking, you know, and the guy gets off stage he goes. Man, I could hear you in the back talking. I'm like all right, you know. Yeah, I like the etiquette.
Speaker 3:If you're really good at like running your show, when you're gonna run your show you can explain to the audience like every third act, because you'll have different people coming in, because some of these people run these open mics. They don't even tell them what it's about. You know, like I wish they would do that in our scene at the Worthingtons. I wish they'd say listen, we have comics that are gonna come up here that have never done comedy before but they're trying. Then we have people that have been doing it a little while. Then we have veterans. If you wanna say something to the comic, just hold back and then, if you want to, we really can't stop you. You know, kind of like set the tone for the room Every cause.
Speaker 3:People come in and out of open mics. You know they go in the pizza place, they come out, but they see a guy up there going yeah, you know, I'm a, I'm a childhood. They're like I just wanna get a fucking pizza. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I get it. I get it, it's, it's, it's. But if you run a book show and you tell the people in the beginning, please keep the, if you wanna talk on your phone, go outside. They'll respect that, especially if they pay it. So you pay, but they get in somewhere for free and they're drunk, they're not gonna listen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, have you ever been heckled before? Oh yeah, lots of times. Yeah, how do you handle it?
Speaker 3:I've handled it horribly but I've learned how to handle it better as I've been doing it longer. I handle it with kindness. I used to get mad, like when I talked about the war cause I was in the Air Force, I talked about the illegal bombing of Iraq and some guy just said you're not a patriot, fuck you. I was in Vietnam and all this shit. I got mad. But now I just kind of treat it with kindness, like you know, like like a kid maybe saying something that would be wrong. You know like, oh, it's gonna be okay. You know to each, you know every situation's different. It'd be great not to have a heckler, trust me.
Speaker 3:But, sometimes people will just say something stupid. I guess you're just gonna have to figure that out. There's really no. Some people have stock lines. There's no how to Well there's stock lines you could use, but I just like to handle it and sometimes people want to help you, like I like to talk about 80s music and this guy goes, oh, do you like OMD orchestra manures in the dark, and I'm like, oh, that's a good question, and then he stops.
Speaker 3:but if you go, oh, hey, man, fuck you. Yeah, I have. I've heard idiots say I have the microphone. Like the comics on stage say the yeah, I have the microphone To the heckler, to the guy who actually I would say just a minute. I would get a taser and I'd taze the comic. That's a wish. Yeah, his name was Michael Gonzalez. He doesn't do comedy anymore, so he won't listen to this.
Speaker 2:How many people do you see starting comedy when you did to now? Is there a lot of like what's the drop off? Oh, it's a big drop off. So, to give you a like an example, I think right now I haven't checked it in a while, but I think it's 80% of podcasts that started in like 2020, I think only like there's a very low percentage of them that are still doing it now. Is there something?
Speaker 3:like that in comedy when you started. I know a comic that said he will be famous on contrition of the people dropping out. He had this whole formula he goes the first two years, okay, maybe the third year, this 20% drop. He had it like down like to a science and he's right. They just, I think from when I started it's just a handful. Yeah, some of them. I see him on Facebook, I go.
Speaker 3:I remember that guy used to do comedy. He used to do comedy. Yeah, I think you know you really have to have a love for it. You know the people like Nick Lanny has a love for it even more than I do, and when I see that I go wow, he's putting the work and he's out there. He's got everything but a podcast he's. You know he's he needs one.
Speaker 2:He does, nick Lanny, if you're watching or listening, hit me up, I can help you, yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, he's got so many things going on and he's always out there almost every night doing comedy, which, when I think about all the people in the Inland Empire, there's only two or three that do that.
Speaker 3:I don't even do that, but I've been doing this a while, so I pick and choose what mics I go to and I usually write when I'm walking my dog or I'm at the gym. But like there's only certain mics chatterbox, a couple of the buddy system mics, maybe some Orange County mics, because they have at least 10 people in there, I don't want to perform in front of comics, it's horrible. Yeah, it's weird. Even I could see why people quit their first six months. I've had people come up to me and go how do you do this? I was like.
Speaker 3:I don't know, man, I guess I love it.
Speaker 2:What would you say to a new person doing comedy? Like is there any besides this hour of wisdom that you've shared with us? Like what is there? What are the key points they usually share if somebody asks you hey, johnny, like what do I need to keep going? How can I keep this thing going? How can I create longevity for as long as you've been doing it for Stay away from Carlos Madrona.
Speaker 3:That's a first. That's a first Step, one Step one. Checkmark, checkmark. All right, that's a great question.
Speaker 1:I think any oh my God.
Speaker 2:I don't think he. I didn't say anything, Carlos. His ego is his ego so big he ain't gonna listen to me. I didn't say anything. Carlos or Santos, it's his brother.
Speaker 3:Oh, he has a brother. Yeah, does his brother do comedy?
Speaker 2:His brother does and his brother is a podcaster. Oh, cool yeah.
Speaker 3:I won't be on that podcast, brother. That's a good question, I think the people I'm gonna use. Nick Lanny I know he told me not to bring his name up, but I did like you brought it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 17, 18 times I can't help myself.
Speaker 3:I think he has a real passion for it.
Speaker 3:You just have to be passionate about it. I think so. Yeah, anything you wanna do, that is something Even like if you wanna own your own business or you wanna be a good parent or you wanna do comedy or an acting or singing or any of this stuff or podcasting deep down you can't stop. You just have to go out Like it'll pull you off the couch, like when I do comedy. Of course I'm tired, but then something will pull me out to drive roundtrip like four hours to do a show. That's the main thing. I think if you're just doing this, it's hard to get that in the beginning. I think he had that from the beginning because I know him very well. I don't know a lot of comics. They say they go, I'm starting comedy, but they don't know some people like you. You might have the upper edge because you loved comedy. I mean, I loved acting. I never loved stand-up comedy. I didn't even know what stand-up comedy was.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know that I liked comedy so much until I really thought about it. Like all the actors, all the movies that I liked, that everything that I was really looked up to were comics, were comedians, were comedy movies.
Speaker 3:You know what it'll answer for itself, because the comics that quit, the ones that I know that have quit, have come up to me after two years. I can't do this and I go. Then you'll never be able to do it.
Speaker 2:What is it? Is it just the it's the hustle, the hustle. It's a lot dude, it's a lot.
Speaker 3:A lot of driving, a lot of kissing ass, a lot of I mean, I don't kiss ass, I'll tell you right off the bat you can go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3:I had this guy reach out to me on Instagram and I love him. John Lu runs a great room. He starts talking shit about some comic. I go let's get to the brass tacks. When am I gonna headline your show in Santa Ana? That was your conversation with this guy. I don't give a fuck about some guy who's meta mega these fancy words. I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Who is this guy? You sent me no, but I love your room and I'd like to do it and he goes. Okay, I'll book you in February. I don't wanna get in all that shit.
Speaker 3:So you gotta be pat. Anything that somebody's pat, okay. Do you follow football? No, okay. Well, cj Stroud. He's from Rancho Cucamonga. He's in the playoffs. He's a rookie. He's 22 years old. He is one of the top five quarterbacks in the world. When you hear him talking about football, that's what you need to have for comedy. I mean, he is just a 22 year old kid that is engrossed in what he does. You have to be obsessed yeah, it's almost like obsessed but you have to have a regular life too. I don't really. I think you should live your life. You know, fall in love, I mean in the beginning. You're not gonna make a lot of money, so you have to have another job. I mean, I know Cat Williams says you're not a real comic unless you live in your car. All right, well, that worked for him, yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, a lot of shit worked for him. I thought that was Steve Harvey. One of those people said that. I don't know who said that.
Speaker 2:Well, cat Williams said that that wasn't Steve Harvey. Oh yeah, that's right. The callback, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:Cat Williams, and so I guess it's to each his own. Like you, find your own journey. Trust me, you'll quit. This will make you quit. If you really wanna do it, you'll quit. It's just like waving the white flag in war. You're like we're done. We lost the civil war.
Speaker 2:How many times have you quit?
Speaker 3:I really took breaks. I took breaks, breaks. Yeah, I was trying to have a kid with my ex-girlfriend and when I bought my house out here it took me two years to find the fucking house. You know, because of the housing market I was, I could even concentrate man, I was going through a lot, but I always thought about it and it never left my mind. And, just like acting with my parents, they were obsessed about it. Like my mom said the meanest thing to me ever and she was on Broadway and she'd done movies. She goes I think if I didn't have kids I would have been a star. And when you tell that to your kid you're like oh shit, that's how much she likes it.
Speaker 3:And when we watch movies and we see she points out that actress and you did this and this is how she does. Her emotion, it's just wrapped up in her soul and both of your parents were actors. Yeah, my dad was how was that that was? It was all right. Your dad was what now? He was a film actor. It was kind of a broken family.
Speaker 2:you know Got divorced when I was five that's not good for a kid and you guys were out here in Southern California where we lived in Hollywood, yeah my parents.
Speaker 3:I'm from New York, we're all from New York, but my parents yeah, my parents moved out when I was a kid and we were. We had a beautiful house. Do you know where the Capitol Records building is?
Speaker 2:I've seen it on Google.
Speaker 3:Right. Well, my parents, I think their mother bought them a house like of the Hills.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 3:Oh, it was nice. I remember as a kid I go oh, I'd never want to leave this place. But we left after a couple of years because my dad and my mom were fighting all the time. So I had a fractured relationship that way you know, when you're divorced at five, it's yeah, really fucked up. You don't find out till later how fucked up it really was, yeah. And then when you do comedy and You're writing about your life and you're really, you're like oh man, I should have got therapy, dude.
Speaker 2:I. You have no idea About the. You do have an idea, right, I never really thought about the state I Wasn't, my parents were in during a lot of traumatic stuff throughout my life and Comedy helped me see that. Oh, that's great. It was weird, yeah. It was a weird transition and a weird Mindset that I put myself in and at the end it was just like, oh fuck, like this is fucked up. It was really bad, yeah, but looking for the funny in In all those different situations really helped me Through all those experiences.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's good, I didn't really think about yeah, you push it down, I pushed it down, or I, or back. Then I really thought about it and Try to find the funny then, but to myself, I didn't really share it with anybody. Well, that's what actors do.
Speaker 3:It's called sense memory. They remember something of their childhood or or a breakup and then they get emotional for a scene.
Speaker 3:Oh, you're doing a scene with a young lady right and then you're breaking up with her. Then maybe you think about a breakup you had and you put they. They say it's really unhealthy, actually, but a lot of actors do that. That's an old method. I think some of these actors they don't even have to just on camera because they're good-looking and they're capable. I love, I Love all actors. I love. I wish I could have hosted the Golden Globes. That would be my wheelhouse, because I'm obsessed with movies. When I saw Joe Koy, I felt bad for him really. Yeah, did you watch it and watch it?
Speaker 1:Oh, I watched his monologue that they said and what he told Tater Swift. I think that was, I Don't know.
Speaker 2:I got nervous what do you say Can we watch it? They can't. Is there? Is there clips of?
Speaker 3:I I tell you what he said. I tell you, when I watch it I got nervous for him as a stand-up comic, you know. I'm saying, yeah, when the guy's going down into a certain Thing, you're not sure if he's bombing or not. You're just, oh, my goodness, what is happening.
Speaker 1:It's it's long, though We'll watch.
Speaker 2:No, there we go.
Speaker 4:Look, I'm just taking this all in. Let me look around. I'm taking this all in. I'm so excited to be here. This is a dream come true, not just for me, but for everybody in here. We all dreamt of this moment. And look at this, look at this room, look around. I mean like, look around. Look, kevin Costner's here, kevin Costner's. Kevin Costner's never here, kevin's like in a mountain with a cow or something, but today he's here. Yeah, cheetos here, looking around, just everybody's here. Like, this is a good night.
Speaker 4:And I got the best seat in the house when I was a kid. Growing up, I used to watch the show and I would stay up late with my family Just trying to guess who would win, and every time my mom would say it's Meryl Streep. Stupid, who else is going to win? She wins every time and she was right. You do. You win all the time. That's why, when the Golden Globes called me and asked me if I wanted to host, I jumped to the chance and I said yes, yes. Then they asked me if I saw every movie and every TV show, and then I said yes, I lied, only watched beef. I love you, ali, beef. I, you know me, it's mandatory. I'm Asian. But not only that, it killed you killed it Ali, um. But anyway, I'm sorry, I just uh, I just want to tell you that where's his monologue?
Speaker 3:This is it. Oh, this is it. Wait till he makes fun of Taylor Swift, that's the funny.
Speaker 2:I guess I don't know what a monologue is then yes, if you can find something, because he just rambling off about yeah he's very nervous.
Speaker 3:You never I seen him a chatterbox. He was a chatterbox really. All that chatterbox is good. Whoa, oh yeah. No, he's nothing like this.
Speaker 2:Amber, we got to clear out Thursday's.
Speaker 3:Man, he was nervous. I wouldn't be nervous though doing something like that God, I get nervous just doing regular shows. I mean he's doing this in front of all those stuck up.
Speaker 2:What do you do to to release some of the nerves?
Speaker 3:That's a good one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I still haven't figured it out no a deep breaths.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm really good when I'm tired, so if I haven't like I know, it's not weird that is weird, I get super nervous.
Speaker 3:I always have and I know any. I think that's why a lot of people do drugs and alcohol to combat the fearness. But I think sometimes by doing it a lot in so many years I've been doing it I've kind of got it down. But I mean my showcase of the live factory, my heart rate was insane. And At the comedy store and all these important shows that I have done featuring down in the clubs, I mean my heart is just. But then once it goes good, it goes down and sometimes it doesn't go down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess building the confidence before you go on stage. So that's.
Speaker 3:I agree, but that's why a lot of people smoke weed, because it cuz they're not confident. I Think the lot of the drugs and alcohol they do is because they're scared to go and perform in front of somebody for 20 minutes.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Maybe that's not true, but I believe it is. I think everybody is petrified, but nobody will tell you hey, I'm petrified.
Speaker 2:It's one of the, it's one of the biggest fears, right, the first one is dying, the second is public speaking one once.
Speaker 3:But if you do it enough, the fear It'll still be there, but you'll know how to maneuver through it right.
Speaker 3:Like you'll hit your first joke and you're like, oh, this is gonna be okay. But then maybe ten minutes later people are, maybe you see some guy walking out. You're like off, right. So that's a constant journey for me. I don't really know. Breathing in and out does help. I Even have it on my watch my heart rate. This guy, kid Darby. Cash goes. When you look at that, don't you get nervous? I go. Yes, I stopped doing that.
Speaker 4:It's like my heart rate.
Speaker 3:Darby is great Darby's a great guy and he's got a really good heart. That's why I really like him.
Speaker 2:He's a. He's a great guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got to have him on your podcast.
Speaker 2:We, we're talking about it. We got to get you on Darby. Last week he he hosted the the open mic at the First Amendment bar and he did such a great job.
Speaker 3:He's a great host and he's I just think he's a kind dude too. That means a lot to me, like when you're a kind individual. I think that shows on stage, yeah, yeah like Gibi.
Speaker 2:Gibi, you're a great. You're a great host too. I'm not discrediting you, but I'm just. I'm just saying who's? Gibi Gilberto, the guy that hosted the open mic where we met. Oh, he's a comic, he's great, he's. He's a Darby, he it's just. It was a different vibe, like it was great, it was awesome. I think I it helped. I did the audio that night. You don't have to worry about anything. I told him dude, don't worry about anything, just bring the comics.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's.
Speaker 2:cool, that's nice of you. Just Bring the comics, talk to the comics, get the sign up. Don't worry about the sound, don't worry about equipment. Let me do that for you. Hmm, and it worked out good. You can, because there's a. There's a totally difference between setting up your audio and hosting and then breaking it. It's, it's a lot, I know, a lot of fun. I've done it before.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know a lot of friends that run rooms and I I Don't like bothering them. If they reach out to me, there's certain rooms that I want to do. I will reach out to the Booker, but for the most part I let them ask me because I know they have about 10,000 people. When you wait till you write your show, you're gonna have people Hitting you up. You don't even know who these people are dude, I can't wait for this project.
Speaker 2:It is. It's so awesome. I can't wait to give you. Maybe you'll be able to handle it.
Speaker 3:I don't know a lot of people Like that John Lou guy. I love him. You know I'm talking shit about him, but he has a show called dirty Nellie's every week in San Ana. It's a badass, I love it. But I think his personality takes everything so personally, like if somebody reaches out to do the show and Then he's like well, wait a minute.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen you yet. He has a Google doc that you fill out. You send the video in, okay, which I think is great, yeah, why not? But you don't need to take this so personally, like if a guy is being an asshole and asking you to get booked, just go. Hey man, I need to see a video and then I'll put you in the rotation and then never text back, right, but you know he likes to get into it all. This guy's this, this guy's that, right, just a waste of time.
Speaker 2:I've gotten. I've gotten asked to be to do a show. I'm not gonna name drop or the the promotions, but I don't even think he listened to my. I don't even know if he knows I do a podcast. But sure. He asked me we set up a date or whatever. Right the next day I posted a real of Tagging on. It was the first time that I ever did a tag For my offender joke and the tag was about Kobe.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:I feel that after he's seen my Tag on Kobe, he didn't want to talk to me, or he even want to touch me as a comic because of that joke. I feel that that's the the reason why he didn't reach back out to me a joke about Kobe. It was yeah, I mean, what did I say? I was like I After that I never use it again because it I have why you'd you didn't kill Kobe.
Speaker 2:No, exactly, and that was my point. It, and I said that it's not like I went to the helicopter store and bought a helicopter, I put it on.
Speaker 3:And then you know, let listen that isn't make sense it does to him right, like I had a Kobe joke and I don't tell it because it was about when he Supposedly s8 a woman.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, colorado, and I heard that in a really nice, fancy hotel, yeah, and I said you know, my wife at the time Would not be mad that I did that to that girl. She would even be mad that it's a five-star resort Because she couldn't talk her to a motel sick, right, right, right. So it just gets a lot of groans. There's certain things that you can't talk about. Sometimes, with race or whatever, you learn how to maneuver, but nobody should judge you for it. Right, people have judged me for my Material and I've had some. I've had some people stand up for me to get on shows. Nick Laney and certain people go no, john's not like that. If there is restrictions, if you have to be clean, just ask him not to do it. I'm not like 10. You could say, hey, johnny, you can't talk. You know what I mean? Oh, johnny's here, he's gonna talk about rape. No, all you have to say if it's a clean show, a Show where you don't have to say right, that's it.
Speaker 3:So this guy I don't know who this guy- you don't have to to to not book me. Yeah, that's. That's rude to maybe I'm just speculating here, it's not set in the clip to get booked on his show.
Speaker 2:No, what, what it was was. He's been asking me to go out and do his show for a long time. I oh, that's cool. I Told them. I was like, uh, yeah.
Speaker 3:First, not that show in East LA is something I'll tell you off here.
Speaker 2:But he, he was trying to book me in November. I told him, dude, I, I have Podcasts, that I do. I do events, I'm a event coordinator, I do a lot of stuff, roads. So if you want to book me for a show, let's talk about it next year, because I'm I'm booked till February, just with the podcast and different projects, right? So maybe that was just like I'm not begging him to be on the show or whatever, or vice versa. But then I, when we were finally Nailing down a date, he gave me the date and I asked him for all the information. Oh, there was no information and but it was just a weird timing.
Speaker 3:I know he wanted to see a clip for you from you before he booked you I.
Speaker 2:Booked. I mean I post clips all the time. Oh now I don't. Now I don't because of that specific reason. I like to see the joke. It sounds like it's a good one. It's a really good. It was a tag that I've amber was there. It was a tag that I've never used before and it was just I doubled down on the joke on yeah, on the joke, yeah, and then plus it was kind of personal with I tried it out in Fullerton it.
Speaker 3:The first joke worked, which show in Fullerton at the continental room.
Speaker 2:Oh cool. Yeah, it was really cool.
Speaker 3:It was a good room and a continental room out here on route 66, route 66. Did they really yeah, huh, but anyway, so they guy. Just I don't know, I'm thinking you ever run into the guy, no, okay.
Speaker 2:No, I mean over social media. Yeah, but nothing, nothing crazy. Yes, he was a big Kobe fan like he played pro ball.
Speaker 3:Maybe, maybe slept with. That was my lover, kobe Bryant. Yeah, I, just it was. You didn't pull an Ari Shaffer or work.
Speaker 2:No, I it's not like.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 2:I Barely seen it yesterday what he said.
Speaker 3:He's an idiot. He just did that for clicks, but I guess he does that all the time. That was like hours after too, but I guess he does it all the time. I didn't know, I don't follow that dude, he he posted something about MLK.
Speaker 2:No, it wasn't about MLK. On Monday he posted like a flyer for his tour and it was like him like with the shirt off and Martin Luther King in the back of him, without his shirt off, and like hugging him on MLK.
Speaker 3:It was that's like a not shock on me, but that's, he's been doing that for 25 years.
Speaker 2:Do you follow Hans Kim?
Speaker 3:I don't think yeah, come on, it's not my type of thing.
Speaker 1:No, you watch, do you ever?
Speaker 3:watch kill tone. Yeah, I did. I was on it twice really. Yeah, I bombed once and I did good ones. I did the one. The only reason I got on this one was because Anthony Jeselnick was a was a A judge and people just dropped out because they didn't want him.
Speaker 3:So I was like oh, I might get pulled because there's like a hundred people. This guy's not here. This guy, okay, oh yeah, so. I got up there and did it. He was high as a motherfucker's Anthony Jeselnick. He was just, he really didn't say anything. Ari Shaffer was one of the judges really he goes. Oh, another Jew, johnny Gold, and I did good. I bombed on the one with Ian Edwards and Southern gentlemen, but it's a very hard thing to do. For one minute I gotta go back. Oh, you did it too.
Speaker 2:No, I know I want I have to go back on the episodes, but now that they're in Texas it's kind of hard yeah of course. You did it when they were at the comedy store in the belly room.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just, I mean, man, it's pretty intimidating. You got a man here, you got this over here, you got the judges, you got a minute, I don't know. I Think it's it's out of my. I mean, the Hans Kim, he's got it down, yeah, because he's been doing it for like several years. Right, I'm not a fan of his comedy. It just seems to be kind of stupid To me, right? I mean, I'm not a young Asian man. You know, I'll be honest with you. I'm really not a fan of a lot of Asian comics. Like, hang on to the Asian part. I, right, I just not a. We might want to stop. There's some Asian comics out there that you want them to die.
Speaker 2:Geez, they're really, it's that bad.
Speaker 3:Well, they're just like, like there's so stereotypical Uh-huh, you know, it's like any ethnic group. I mean, I Grew up, I worked with Latinos in my business for 27 years. I Never really saw too much stereotypical behavior, mm-hmm, because we were trying to make money together, right? So they would never say, oh, this is a white man, or I would never go, this is a mexa, I don't give a shit. But when I see an Asian comic I'm Asian. I well, no shit, we can see you, you got your eyes or you've got your hair. I mean, I just can't take it. Yeah, so that's probably good time.
Speaker 2:Wait, I Literally I want to go back and, and did you find anything on?
Speaker 3:Golden Globe does a Taylor Swift joke. It's so stupid, is it?
Speaker 1:it was. Look I'll. I'll say it for you.
Speaker 1:It was pretty much in the realm of like saying, because you know her, her boyfriends in the NFL, so I guess every time she goes to his Games they're always putting the camera on her. So they're always like, oh, taylor Swift, oh, what is she wearing, what is this, what is that? So they're pretty much saying like that's what Football has become now is like Taylor Swift. So he was saying like, oh, don't, don't, don't feel bad, like the Golden Globes will have less shots of Taylor Swift than the NFL and yeah, and then her face was like Like she rolled her eyes and everything, like she was mad that that happened.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then on Twitter, Joe Koi just got it horribly which I think it's so dumb.
Speaker 1:He doesn't care.
Speaker 3:Those people that follow Taylor Swift are Like retarded 15 years old. Well, who cares, right yeah?
Speaker 1:I. I think it's dumb, but I think also the room was hard for him because they weren't there to be with the Comedian. I mean to see a comedian, or you know, laugh. They were there for.
Speaker 3:I don't think those people can laugh. You really gotta. You really gotta. Even the good ones don't make them laugh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he said it better than that, right yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know. He didn't say much. He was really nerdy stumbled over. Then he told the audience. He goes I did the jokes I wrote. You're laughing at the other jokes that the other writers wrote. You're not laughing. He said that that was the biggest mistake and he apologized in the New York Times for it. It was on Instagram. I read it. He goes I shouldn't have thrown my. That was stupid, because he wasn't doing that bad. It wasn't that bad. Yeah, it was passable. All you're gonna do is okay, next up Jared Lido, supporting actor. Then you go, shut up and sit down. He was only out there for like six minutes, I don't. He probably got paid about $20,000, I do it.
Speaker 2:He was out there being an octopus pointing out, trying to deflect.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's Kevin Costner.
Speaker 2:There's a pillow, there's a drink, there's but I'm saying like after when he got a bad review on the whole thing, he started pointing out all these different that's like the worst whoa.
Speaker 3:That would be like if you were performing at Carnegie Hall, right, and then you said, hey, listen, I'm Johnny cold.
Speaker 3:Okay right, my brother wrote these jokes right and you're like they're like I paid I Mean just to get in that place. I've been in that hotel where they have the Golden Globes a bunch of times Just to get their park and everything is like a hundred dollars right. They get it for free. Then if you go and have a drink I've had drinks there you can leave spending $500 like that, or you can say at at the end of your set.
Speaker 2:You can say if you like my set, my name is Johnny gold, but if you don't like my set, my name is Carlos Madrono.
Speaker 3:I like. It All right, let's end the podcast.
Speaker 2:Carlos, you got to come back, dude, and do the podcast do it together.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and we can break down Carlos Madrona's comedy, which would take about 30 seconds. Just kidding, just kidding. My social media is Johnny gold 777.
Speaker 2:Johnny, this is awesome podcast.
Speaker 3:Fuck the comedy bureau.
Speaker 2:You have anything to plug in? You're good, okay, amber, do you have anything? Oh yeah, go for it.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:No, well, we're still live.
Speaker 1:So oh, we're so, live my life.
Speaker 2:If You're listening to this, check us out on Instagram at the mind buzz and follow me at the ability to like. Have some cool stuff going on. Nick Laney, dude, if you're interested in starting the podcast, hit me up. Let's get this going. Carlos Madrono, bro, I love you, come out, let's do another podcast, the comedy Chateau. I will be there, hopefully again After this. Let's see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what else do?
Speaker 2:we got.
Speaker 1:Fun. Again, johnny, that's a you never know what you're gonna get here on the mind.
Speaker 2:You never know what you're gonna get we never know we never know what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 2:Mark your calendars. February 23rd, friday night, in the city of Paramount, we have something very special for you, the listener, the watcher, the supporter, the comedy fan, the podcast fan. And If you're just a fan of amber, we have something for you. My god, in the city of Paramount. It's gonna be great. There's gonna be comedy, there's going to be a live Podcast, there's gonna be a comedy showcase. It's gonna be amazing, the event of the year. There's gonna be alcohol, there's gonna be beer, there's gonna be wine, there's gonna be food, there's gonna be people. It's gonna be amazing. Come check it out. Oh yeah, that's how you do. I'm a mind-bust. Oh yeah, call us Madonna. What's up? Come back, dude. I love you, man. Bye.