Jacob The Bull Brown is a brown belt Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Competitor.
https://www.instagram.com/jacobthebullbrown/
When the gi comes off and the heart rate settles, it's stories like Jacob the Bull Brown's that remind us of the profound journey through Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Join us as Jacob, a seasoned brown belt, unwraps 15 years of arduous training, vividly illustrating how the art of Jiu-Jitsu transcends mere physicality, embedding discipline and growth into its very fabric. We're not just breaking down techniques; we're piecing together the vast puzzle of personal evolution, one takedown at a time.
Picture the mats, the sweat, and the sheer resilience as we peek behind the curtain of competitive Jiu-Jitsu. Here, it's not just about the medals or the belts, but the untold hours of practice and mental fortitude that shape champions. Jacob shares the nitty-gritty of his regimented lifestyle, and through his lens, we perceive the meticulous preparation that defines the upper echelons of the sport. It's a testament to the warrior's path, where each roll and each spar etches deeper character into the martial artist's soul.
We cap off our session with a salute to the grand stages of Jiu-Jitsu, where names like the ADCC and Pan Ams are whispered with reverence. Understanding the pinnacle of achievement in this sport is to grasp the gravity of every grip and the strategy behind every submission in these hallowed tournaments. With a nod to the pulsating energy of MMA fandom, we bridge the gap between the UFC spectacle and the Jiu-Jitsu community, celebrating the art that has, for many, become a way of life.
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King without a Throne
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Jacob The Bull Brown is a brown belt Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Competitor.
https://www.instagram.com/jacobthebullbrown/
When the gi comes off and the heart rate settles, it's stories like Jacob the Bull Brown's that remind us of the profound journey through Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Join us as Jacob, a seasoned brown belt, unwraps 15 years of arduous training, vividly illustrating how the art of Jiu-Jitsu transcends mere physicality, embedding discipline and growth into its very fabric. We're not just breaking down techniques; we're piecing together the vast puzzle of personal evolution, one takedown at a time.
Picture the mats, the sweat, and the sheer resilience as we peek behind the curtain of competitive Jiu-Jitsu. Here, it's not just about the medals or the belts, but the untold hours of practice and mental fortitude that shape champions. Jacob shares the nitty-gritty of his regimented lifestyle, and through his lens, we perceive the meticulous preparation that defines the upper echelons of the sport. It's a testament to the warrior's path, where each roll and each spar etches deeper character into the martial artist's soul.
We cap off our session with a salute to the grand stages of Jiu-Jitsu, where names like the ADCC and Pan Ams are whispered with reverence. Understanding the pinnacle of achievement in this sport is to grasp the gravity of every grip and the strategy behind every submission in these hallowed tournaments. With a nod to the pulsating energy of MMA fandom, we bridge the gap between the UFC spectacle and the Jiu-Jitsu community, celebrating the art that has, for many, become a way of life.
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"King without a Throne" is performed by Bad Hombres
King without a Throne Official Music Video
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King without a Throne
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Speaker 4:Thank you for inviting me out.
Speaker 2:Gil and Jacob is a brown belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Is that correct?
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 2:That is awesome, dude. How long have you been practicing Jiu Jitsu for?
Speaker 4:I've been doing Jiu Jitsu for 15 years Wow.
Speaker 2:That's a long time, dude. That is a very long time.
Speaker 4:I mean I started at the age of six. I mean I never stopped since then.
Speaker 1:Really dude. How many belts is there in Jiu Jitsu?
Speaker 4:There's. Well, I started as a kid at six, so I was white, so I had to go through all the really half-colored belts and I had to go through yellow and then orange and then the orange-black, and then I had to go through green, then blue, and then there's purple, brown and then black. So right now I'm a brown belt. Oh shoot, You're one. Wow, I went through a hell of belts, so I have one more belt to go to and then that'll be my final stage of completing all the belt ranks. And then, man, I got a lot going on from there.
Speaker 2:So and you're a busy cat dude and we pull up his Instagram account and let's check out what he's been up to for the past. However long he's been hanging out for, let's pull it down, let's see if we can get some of his stuff on the screen.
Speaker 1:We have the pitched out right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's going to be my newest little film coming out. Just worked on it's going to be like a little short action film you guys are going to see. Just stay tuned for that, because that's going to be really fun. Doing that little film was so much fun. I loved working with the people. Shout out to Joe and Jay the people I worked with that put me in there. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:That's awesome dude. So can we pull it up? Can you press on it? See what yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's the man right there, oh, so some.
Speaker 2:BTS stuff going on right there behind the scenes.
Speaker 4:Yes, sir.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 4:Shout out to Joe man, he's a good guy.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's awesome. Oh, that's awesome, oh, that's super cool.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was doing a little trick with a while. I just learned from somebody, Uh-huh Seconds, little Chi energy thing.
Speaker 1:It's like what the heck is happening.
Speaker 4:Basically, it was like holding his arm up. I told him don't let me put your arm down, as I put pressure on it. You couldn't have the resistance to do it. So it's like a little, it's like a mind trick.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's funny.
Speaker 4:Got to try it in real life. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:That's cool. And what did you do on the film?
Speaker 4:On the film, it was more like I was using my juju, two aspect apart. So basically it was like I'm in this gang or whatever, and it's like I don't want to talk about too much. But basically it's like an action film, so it's just like I have some fight scenes in it and then in the future you're going to see more about it. There's not too much to really break down for it, but just knowing the future is going to be a lot of action, basically going on.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. I can't wait for this to come out so we can check it out.
Speaker 4:Thank you, that's going to be exciting yeah.
Speaker 2:It seems like other than jujitsu, you're pretty well rounded, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean I still have a lot going on in film. I still want to do more in the future. I also have another one. It's called Lake Abyss. It's a short horror film. Oh yeah, I think that was going to be even more exciting. I mean, both of them are just excited to watch, but it's like the first short horror film I've ever done. I've always wanted to be in one, so that's going to be exciting to watch. So everybody, stay tuned for that, everybody on Instagram, you guys, it's going to be fun.
Speaker 4:Awesome dude, that's a yeah, you're pretty busy then yeah, shout out to Eric as well, but yeah.
Speaker 2:Right on, dude, no-transcript Today I just found out you're you're not a native to California, you're from. You're from the East Coast.
Speaker 4:Yeah, East Coast original baby yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you still remember how it was in New York right?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I have some experience in New York. I mean, being there was very awesome. I love training with my original coaches. They helped out a lot throughout my career Because I growing up there was a very humbling. You know I like the jiu-jitsu there. The jiu-jitsu here is also great as well, both sides. I love learning from both sides of East Coast and West Coast jiu-jitsu. They both have its own style and it's unique. So I try really like about this.
Speaker 2:That's interesting because of the geographical locations of athletes. Yeah, it plays a big part in the sport. That's, that's wild to know, dude.
Speaker 4:Yeah, cuz like East Coast jiu-jitsu. It's more like it's like a lot of people like to be like on top. You like really like smash and pass on top. You know they're like smoke you wet all that pressure and then when I came here, I was. That was always my style, the smash and pass style. You know, I just want to smoke you on top and I don't want to like, let you go anywhere.
Speaker 2:Right right.
Speaker 4:So I came here and I was like, oh, this is like a way different style of jiu-jitsu. Like I was playing on the bottom I learned about like the deli heva and stuff. Like I wasn't doing that type of jiu-jitsu back then. But now I know that part of jiu-jitsu like working the bottom, working like certain guard and like just kind of like winning from the bottom, is a whole new, different style when I first came here.
Speaker 1:So that was say it's like more chill.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, it's a lot more chill like it's, it's like it's California. That's why I like the, but it's like I felt like a lot more calm, like just lay on the bottom, like do my thing. I get to be a lot more slower taking my time doing moves when I was like back in the East Coast and then Sticking with everything. So I was always on top doing most of the work, you know. But here you get to like lay back a little bit more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, take your time, focus, use your technique, seeing what your next move is going to be right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and that's really like the body. So I adapted to the style mixed in a one, my East Coast style, you know yeah starting learning both ways.
Speaker 2:That's why I'll do have you met anybody else from the East Coast that practices jiu-jitsu?
Speaker 4:Uh, I mean it's an East Coast from. Yeah, I live this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no or got hit the mat with anybody from from the East Coast.
Speaker 4:No no, not that I know of it.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, yeah, there you go, so you have a little bit of an advantage, right.
Speaker 3:I think your style is a little bit different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can say that, okay, yeah, so I was reading about jiu-jitsu not too long ago. It's or Brazilian jiu-jitsu, it's, it's, it's a lot. It comes from Japanese, right from Japan, like it's derived from, from Japan.
Speaker 4:Believe that's where originated from, yeah, and the.
Speaker 2:I was watching a little video on it a few weeks ago and there are these warriors back the day. I don't know if we can pull it up, ember, on the history of jiu-jitsu, but Just before they stopped using the samurai warriors, they use the practice of those samurai's and they made it a sport and it was pretty, pretty interesting. And there was only one guy I Gonna look at his name, but it was one Jiu-jitsu and they call it. They called it judo.
Speaker 4:Yes, I did judo, I was. I was a judo guy for four years.
Speaker 2:So it was. It was so it. It's different, it's a different sport, or how? How's that?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's different from jiu-jitsu. At least I did at a younger age, so it's it's different from doing at a younger age. It's when you get older, because when you start reaching the higher ranks in judo, when you take somebody down, it's usually that's when, like the, the, the match ends like, once you get a takedown, that's it like you restart and do it again, or that's how you win the tournament.
Speaker 4:But when you get older doing judo, I think in the higher ranks like brown or black, maybe I haven't been in it that long, I kind of stopped as a kid. But once you get a, the takedown, then it's they kind of transitions into jiu-jitsu. Then you have to pass the guard or you got to get the backtake. You know, in jiu-jitsu when it's really only like takedowns for like younger kids when I started, so I haven't been that far into it, but that's what I know about it, whoa.
Speaker 2:That's a lot, yeah. Although it's in its its origins, can arguably be traced to Buddhist monks of India. What Jiu-jitsu, sometimes referred to as jiu-jitsu in its modern Form, comes from Japan. Jiu-jitsu was the yeah, the battlefield art of the samurai of Japan. That is so wild and it's like over the past 150 years, it's become one of the the all-time watch they all time Affiliated type of sport right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, it's pretty young. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like over the years, jiu-jitsu has grown a lot more than when I first started. Like when I first started jiu-jitsu, nobody barely knew when I told them I was doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Like I never heard of that before.
Speaker 2:They thought it was karate.
Speaker 4:I'm like nah, it's like you know right, it's like a similar version of like judo, but judo, stand up more and jiu-jitsu is more ground game.
Speaker 2:Okay, so jiu, so judo is more stand up and jiu-jitsu is more ground.
Speaker 4:Yeah, jiu-jitsu is mainly like ground game like I like to like put jiu-jitsu and judo together. Of course, like any, anytime I roll or a sparrow, I always like to start standing up. You don't really see me pull too much in jiu-jitsu. The only time really like playing the bottom is if I end up in that scenario. But I was at start for the takedown or go for the legs or something like that. Because I've been in judo so long, I kind of adapted to it.
Speaker 2:That is so crazy. I've never met anybody that has done a sport since six years old. Yeah, that is just something that you you read in a magazine or see an article. I don't read magazines but I, if I did, I'd probably read something like that.
Speaker 1:You know it's crazy. How do you? How do you? Because I've seen like a couple videos right that come up, like on my TikTok or things like that, where the kids are sparring right that's what you call it like when they're like on the mat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I call it sparring going live and then one kid wins, obviously, and then the other ones like red and crying and like you know, and then I'm like, oh man, I feel bad, like how was a kid, how do you understand that? Like, how do you get into that mindset of like hey, I'm not always gonna win and this is a contact sport? You know like what I mean. Obviously it's been so many years, but from what little you can remember, I mean what was kind of your mindset at six years old. You know doing that.
Speaker 4:That's a great question. I get that question a lot. I would say, like being so young in this war, especially at the age of six, you get so much like discipline, like training, what your coach is and you know, especially having the right support it disciplines you at a very young age. So you kind of just get used to the, you get used to that, right, and it's like, oh, when your parents ask you, hey, how do you feel about the sport? Especially it's comforting when you get asked about your parents because that's what my parents did to me, that's me like oh, like, are you comfortable being here, do you want to come back? And that gives the kid like enthusiasm to go back, to want to stay in the sport, right.
Speaker 4:So that was me. I was just this young, happy child that wanted to go training every day because it was fun and I found it I'm using and my coaches were supporting, and so that's how you kind of got to be with the young kids and it kind of just kept me motivated, you know. So that's why I just kept going back and also I was also bullied at that age as well. So that was even more of another reason for me to stay in the sport because of the bullying, because of the bullying main.
Speaker 2:Really, yeah, imagine bullying somebody and then to come to find out that they're like brown belt or something. You're picking them wrong, right yeah?
Speaker 1:That's always my like. You know, when you make scenarios up in your head and you're like, yeah, you know you're Doing things that you know that you can't possibly do, but that's my, that's always my like scenario in my head. I go somewhere and then everyone thinks I'm just small and like helpless, and then I can just like take them down.
Speaker 4:That's always my, my go-to scenario, which I know I can't but honestly, and I think it's just like one of the greatest sports, especially for women, because it's like uh, you know this girl is like, they feel safe, especially when they know how to escape a grab or you know how to take somebody down. I think it's the more easier way to learn self-defense, you know, because it doesn't take a lot to like defend yourself when you're introduced to, because if you're on the bottom or somehow you get knocked down On the floor, you're gonna know how to protect yourself, because that happens in a lot of life. Say, I never been in the street fight, but if I was in the street fight, I got knocked down to the floor. I would immediately know what to do. You know I don't know how to take the person, put him in a chokehold. You know it's pretty simple, but but yeah, I mean that's, that's how it is, you know, so it's just fun 15 years of it, man, that's just.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure you've been a lot of Over those years like there's. There's so much experience that you have accumulated in your mind on the mat, right? Do you find yourself in different scenarios each time you get in the mat, or is it just something that's different from one match to the other, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4:Every match is different. Every match has its own unique way of like of Jujitsu, so everybody fights different. It's always a fun experience every battle that I do, especially like in tournaments or even on the mat. It's all fun. You know it gets harder throughout the years as you get older, like then it gets more competitive. But you know, either way I like every experience that happens in Jujitsu. I learn a lot every time I train, every time I lose, every time I win. It's all a great experience. So I mean, but other than that, everything else is pretty similar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. How do you, even how do you get ready for a pretty important match, for a match? Yeah, without telling any of your secrets, just give me a little bit of how you prepare yourself for a match.
Speaker 4:Well, first thing, I always work out daily, always in like strength and conditioning, like working on my body, always staying on weight, eating healthy. I wake up like six in the morning and then, you know, train every morning, two classes a day, then I go back to working out, then I just stay on that constant routine, you know so, building myself every day getting stronger, and that's kind of like the basic part of it. But I mean, like behind the scenes, you're just it's about the mentality. Yeah, you gotta be there mentally.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 4:And just say wake up in the morning and then say I'm just going to go train and just get it out the way. No, if you think like that, you're not going to get nowhere. You know you got to wake up wanting to be there and you know, having the enthusiasm to want to learn something more or something else that's going to make you improve. You know, to help you in tournaments, help you stay in the sport, I was like. You know you don't want the mentality of a quitter and then just go train in the morning just because of it.
Speaker 2:Right. You know, so do you do anything mentally to get you in that state? Do you meditate, do you read books, do you like? What do you do for your brain? For a match?
Speaker 4:I just keep myself motivated, man. I mean, I'm straight up you know, I just wake up and I'd be like I'm here for a reason you know like I started at a young age. I'm not going to quit now.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 4:So I'm just like what is there to complain about? You know, I've went through my struggles but that's not stopping me, you know it just going through struggles is only going to keep me motivated to keep on going, you know. So that's the case. You motivated my struggling.
Speaker 2:So who got you into the sport?
Speaker 4:That was actually in my aunt. She was a Norc police officer. Oh, okay, yeah, she's the one that got me started too, after I told my parents I was bullied at a young age.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they went to her as a Norc police officer and they was like hey, jacob was bullied. Does there any sport? You think we should put him in because he wants to learn self-defense? She was like, yeah, totally bring him into classes. It's called Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. And they asked me and I was like, yeah, let's do it. You know, like I'm just this kid.
Speaker 3:I just say, yeah, it's everything you know, let's go.
Speaker 4:And then that's it. That was the day when the first class I did and I was like, oh wow, this is really fun. You know, I had good training partners, I had awesome coaches and that was the first day of my Jiu-Jitsu I started.
Speaker 2:Did you ever think that you're going to be doing it for the next 15 years? Definitely not, no.
Speaker 4:No, not at all. But it's like I'm glad I came all this way because I made such a great experience along the way and I made a great life. You know, I came to Cali after a while. You know, after training in the East Coast, after the amount of years I put in already, then I realized that I wanted to keep on going and take it to a competitive aspect of it and I wanted to get somewhere with it. But when I first started it was like I didn't know where I was going with this. I thought I was going to do it just to, you know, learn self-defense, just learn how to keep myself and being bullied, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And that was the base part of it. But then once I came here and moved to Cali after a long time of just learning Jiu-Jitsu, then I came here and learned a whole different style of it. I was like, oh, this is way different, a lot more competitive. This style of Jiu-Jitsu is different because I came over here doing like illegal Jiu-Jitsu moves that kids learn at a game yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm like over here doing like ankle locks and like head locks and like I'm only like seven years old, I'm like no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what they did. They was like you, already like seven. You can't be doing this to other kids, like throwing them on their necks, since.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh yeah.
Speaker 4:I was like this little wrestler dude, you know just being mad aggressive. Yeah, I was like 10 years old but I mean, yeah, that was that. So then you know, after they taught me their style of Jiu-Jitsu and how you know they train here in the West Coast, then that's when I kind of adapted to the style of Jiu-Jitsu, the more competitive side and how to be safe in Jiu-Jitsu and not just being this like super brawler dude that probably could be dangerous to others, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause you have to. Yeah, it's a sport, right? So you have to be safe too, that's so. It's weird to me because just looking at a match like watching a match, right yeah, it doesn't seem that safe.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, no, no. Especially when you get older, you know they start doing some crazy moves on you. You know, when you get into ankle locks, I would say ankle locks and foot locks are the hardest things to like. You know not get locked in, because once you reach like brown and black belt, like I am at brown belt, you start wearing them by your ankles because once they snag your ankles you barely have any time to tap out. You have to tap out instantly.
Speaker 3:Like, if you don't tap out, your thing's gonna snap, it's gonna break. Yeah, it's gonna break.
Speaker 2:So really.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you gotta be careful. Oh, my God yeah so I would say it's a little more easier to maintain around purple and like blue belt especially you know any belt under that Brown and black and you gotta start working your game.
Speaker 2:Really yeah. So how do they? Do you know how they determine when somebody is ready to go onto the next belt?
Speaker 4:It all depends on how you're doing in your training, on, like, how you're involving your game, basically. So it's like when you come to training, are you focusing on the moves you're drilling on? Are you like working on the stuff that you you're not really like at the best, that, like, it's all about, like, what I need to work on, that need to improve that I'm not ready for.
Speaker 2:So it's all your progress right?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's about the progress you're making, then that shows in tournaments. So whatever progress you're making at the gym, whatever you're improving on, whatever you're drilling on, is all gonna show at the tournaments and then you know throughout the years they're gonna be able to tell like if you made progress for your next belt.
Speaker 2:What do you have up here, amber, I have a video oh, okay.
Speaker 4:Oh, yes, whoa.
Speaker 2:Look at that.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, oh, that was a great match.
Speaker 1:You're like so calm and the other guys like fighting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're like laughing. The replay that I need to see. A replay of that Look at that. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was pretty clean, not gonna lie, that was, that was so calculated too.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was, that was whoa.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that match, I believe it was on like 30 seconds or something like that, and they had 27 seconds.
Speaker 2:So the whole reel was a match.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was the entire match right there. There was no after that. It was at the rap.
Speaker 2:that video You're doing Tik Tok videos when it comes to these matches bro.
Speaker 4:Yeah, just as long as Tik Tok video. They're like how long is your match on a?
Speaker 1:Tik Tok video. It's a Tik Tok video, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that was really calculated, that was really clean and, just like what Amber said, you look pretty calm, so you're yeah yeah, I mean, that's what Jiu-Jitsu is about.
Speaker 4:You have to be in like the state of a calm mind. You can't be on the match.
Speaker 1:Your opponent didn't look calm.
Speaker 4:But yeah, when you're like struggling, like getting flipped over like a pancake, and stuff. It's like your mind's all over the place, you know, right, right.
Speaker 1:But I could see right, Because I mean it's like any situation when you panic, you're not clear minded, Like your mind is not working to its full potential because you're panicking. And if you're calm, then you're calculating. Okay, I have to do this, I have to do that, and. I mean it makes sense, it makes total sense.
Speaker 4:Yeah, especially at the at the belt rank. I'm at now at a brown and black belt rank. You have to be at your calmest when you're in a fight, because you have to calculate every single thing you do. Like the minute you mess up, then that's when they're gonna take the opportunity to get you in a submission hold and right there you're gonna tap out, get scored on. Anything happens, you know. So you always gotta be like very precautious about like what you're gonna do for your next set. So that's what I've been learning as a new brown belt. I got my brown belt just a few weeks ago, like three months ago. Okay, yeah, so I mean there's a lot to learn a brown belt for me still, you know. So I'm still getting adjusted after being a purple belt for like two years.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. What's the average that somebody stays in a belt Is it just goes from athlete to athlete?
Speaker 4:Yeah, the usual amount of years for every belt, like for a blue belt, it's usually about three years. I stood in my blue for three years, then purple will be two years, then brown is one year, Then, like you know, and then once you get black, that's it. You're a black belt forever. I mean, there is a red belt, but you have to be in like your old 60s or 70s.
Speaker 2:Really. Yeah, you gotta be an old man by then. So it's based on age.
Speaker 4:I mean yeah, I mean for red belts. I think it's based on age. But because, usually for most black belts, they get it when they at least for when you started a young age, like six years old, like maybe you would get your black belt by like 22, 21, you know, youngest Gotcha, if you're depending, if you're starting older, like if you're starting your mid teens or as an adult already.
Speaker 4:Like if I started as an adult, I will go straight from white to blue belt, right? Well, as a kid you would go from white, then yellow, orange and then half color belts and all that Cause. Then there's yellow, black and yellow, white and this orange, black and orange. You know a lot of colors. There's more colors than adults. But if I was an adult it would be white, blue, purple, brown, black. But I went through all the little kid belts when I was younger so it took a longer time for me. But yeah, so if you started older age, then it's going to take you a lot longer to get a black belt and then you'll already be old when you get a red belt.
Speaker 2:So when you're, when you're not flipping people on the mat, dude, what are you doing, Like when you're not, when you're not working out? What other stuff do you like to enjoy?
Speaker 4:Well, when I'm not working out, I just like to keep myself busy or go out, you know, maybe do another hobby. You know that kind of I'm interested in, like a skateboarding or something like do something new. You know, I like to try to do things that are not if I'm not into the jiu-jitsu environment or I'll just, you know, I'll just like to be out just roller skating, skateboarding. I like to enjoy life. You know, like if I'm just chilling, I'm just going to enjoy kickback. You know, just do what's pretty chill, like every other chill person does. You know, when they're on their off time.
Speaker 1:I have a question so, going back to like why you got into jiu-jitsu, right so kind of because of the bullying and all that. Do you think that after so, like after you were in there for a couple of years, do you think that it helped with? Well, I guess my question should be like did you stop getting bullied after that, or was it still something constant even while you were in jiu-jitsu?
Speaker 4:After that one first and then last yeah, yeah, no. After the first time I got bullied as a kid, I never got bullied again.
Speaker 1:Do you think that it was one like for you, right your mindset. Do you think it was one like because you knew that you knew how to defend yourself, that you carried yourself differently. Or maybe your mindset was just you were a little more confident in yourself and knowing that you could, you know, defend yourself, or it just kind of went away on its own?
Speaker 4:No, yeah, I mean, I was disciplined at a young age so I was very humbled the minute I knew I was able to defend myself and I knew what I can do to somebody and I was like, uh, I'm gonna only use it, you know, for self-protection, and I know, like, the harm I can do to other people. In case I was in a problem where somebody you know wanted to fight me. That's the only time I would use it for self-defense, but there's no other reason why I would use it. You know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it gave you confidence, right, knowing that you were gonna fight. Yeah, I got a big confidence boost off of that.
Speaker 4:You know, because I was like, after the amount of years I put in the things I know I can do, you know, with my skills over the years, that's what I knew. I was just like, okay, like I know what I can do, I know, like some people will say, like I've had people come to me and be like you're like pretty much like your own weapon, and I was like, well, yeah, you can put it in those words. You know, it's the same thing. So that's why I've always been careful throughout the years about what I do, because if I was like, if I was like a fighter who was like really pissed off and I just had an aggressive attitude, then I could seriously like put somebody in like in a bad position, you know, but it's a good thing. That's why I'm very humble, that's why I like to always humble myself and I respect everybody, you know. So the last resort is always that you know.
Speaker 4:I always put that as the last resort, like putting anybody into a submission hold or using my duty for anything. So yeah, I mean, I'll use it for self-protection and that's it.
Speaker 2:Some of the nicest people that I know are practicing Jujitsu people.
Speaker 4:You know that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's true, because it's the passion. You guys are in it for self-defense or defending other people. The sport is just, it's just. It changes you.
Speaker 4:I don't want to say it changes you mentally, but kind of in some capacity it does, right yeah no, in some capacity you're right about that, because, like throughout the years, I'm just I've just been this guy who's just been like oh man, I love the sport and I just I can't ever stop doing it. It's like at some point you get an addiction to it, you know, and then that's kind of wearing your head. It's like am I using this? Like what am I going to really do with it?
Speaker 4:And then some people who are not in the competitive aspect of Jujitsu. They're going to be like, well, I kind of just doing Jujitsu just because you know, or you know some people have jobs, you know Some people are busy with their lives, but like somebody competitive, but like there's a lot of reasons to use Jujitsu, you know Most of it is going to be going to like tournaments, you know, using it for like how to work on your technique and stuff. Some people use it for only self-defense because you know, in case somebody attacks them, they know what to do on the floor, they know how to defend themselves, right? Oh well, that's that.
Speaker 2:Who are some of your inspirations when it comes to the sport? Do you say if you're a football player and you look up to Vince Lombardi or somebody? Like that right. Is there anybody in Jujitsu that you look up to?
Speaker 4:I don't really have a really an inspiration to anyone like respectfully.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I just kind of I look at myself because I like to be my own inspiration, you know.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 4:I like to look back at all the things I did and I like to you know all the things that I worked hard for. You know it. Just, it gives me an even bigger booster and I don't have a bad ego or nothing, it's just like I want to see myself grow, you know.
Speaker 2:No, of course.
Speaker 4:You know. But there's a lot of people like I respect in Jujitsu. You know, like I know, that the big thing, the one big tournament, you know, and like Gordon, great Jujitsu fighter, you know, menace Bros are great Jujitsu fighters. You know there's a lot of Jujitsu people that are amazing out there, that accomplished, you know, in their life, and so you know I just want to be one of those people that when I get my black belt I want to be able to open up my own academy. You know, win tournaments, so what's?
Speaker 2:so what is Jujitsu's? Again back to like American sports. Baseball has the. Forget that I don't know. Baseball Football has the NFL. What does Jujitsu have? Do they have like a top prize, like an entertainment wrestling? There's the WWE. Does Jujitsu have something like that? Yeah, like a foundation or something.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Jujitsu got multiple big organizations. They got one that's called ADCC and that's probably one of the biggest ones out there. It's a no-gey only tournament and if you you have to go through the ADCC trials in order to get to the big, actual organization, to win the tournament.
Speaker 4:Really. So you have to go through like a pre-tournament and then get to the real tournament. You know, so after you win that one, then that's when you get to the official ADCC you know and that's one of the really huge organizations of Jujitsu Like when you get in there there's like a giant, giant crowd. It's like it's like when you go to the UFC right, like there's millions of people, that's coming out. The ADCC is in Jujitsu, and then there's Pan Ams.
Speaker 4:This is another world tournament, another world tournament. So there is quite a few organizations. Rbjjf, you know, it's one of them.
Speaker 2:Do you like UFC? Yeah?
Speaker 4:yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean I haven't been watching any of the recent fights, but I watched it throughout the years. I'm a big fan of a lot of fighters. You know McGregor always been my favorite fighter. He's a hilarious dude. The idea is probably just a lot of them. So yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:Do you see a lot of Jujitsu in UFC?
Speaker 4:Of course, all the time they always do it. You see them. Put them in grappling holds all the time, smash them, pound them Mostly like in the UFC.
Speaker 2:is it mostly Jujitsu or is there other styles of fighting in there?
Speaker 4:In MMA you see like pretty much everything I'm sorry, so it's MMA.
Speaker 2:A friend of mine kept on drilling me about it's not UFC, it's MMA. Oh yeah, like well yeah, the sport is mixed martial arts.
Speaker 4:Yeah, mixed martial arts, but in the UFC they use MMA. You know they use everything.
Speaker 2:Gotcha okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, I got to remind myself.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, I know, it gets confusing.
Speaker 2:So with this sport, you got to talk to me like I'm a two-year-old, because I okay, can we get that? Okay, we got that, but that is wild dude, so you've been around doing tournaments for a very long time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, really long time, and I don't plan to stop anytime soon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how can you right You're doing all these film projects? How often do you do tournaments Like when is that cycle start? Is there like seasons with the sport? How does that work?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, there's seasons. I mean, like you know no tournament really happens, you know anytime. It's like you know, around Christmas or around any holidays. You know there's no tournaments going on or nothing. People take their breaks for like Christmas all the time, or for certain months of the year. There'll be a really busy month for DJ2 and that's only usually around like IBJJF tournaments, so that would be like around March or whatever, or like January. There's like a tournament called Europeans right that people travel the world for.
Speaker 2:Whoa.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and it's a long travel. You got to be on a plane for like 17 hours, so, oh, so you've been to Europe to fight really yeah. I've been there once.
Speaker 2:How was Europe dude? How did you like it?
Speaker 4:Europe was fun. Yeah, yeah, it was a fun place to be. I liked exploring around the place and everything I got to go back there. Yeah, that's what I got to say.
Speaker 2:Was Europe the farthest place you've been to practice DJ2?
Speaker 4:Sorry, to say that again.
Speaker 2:Was Europe, the. That's the farthest place you've been to for a tournament. Oh yes. That was the farthest distance I've traveled for DJ2. Yeah, europe, dude.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's an experience. Give it a try yourself.
Speaker 2:What was your? What was the best thing about Europe that you liked, besides the tournament?
Speaker 4:Man, I love exploring all the areas. I mean it's just a beautiful place, you know, like the areas are nice. I love the way the concert like you know everything, the way it looks, it just aesthetically looks pretty beautiful.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 4:Yeah, way different from being. The streets are a lot like different. You know the people are nice to go on. I love the food there. I can't even lie the food there is. Yeah, they got nice proportions over there, and it's the quality of the food.
Speaker 2:Oh, I bet oh, compared to the United States, I'm pretty sure that they got. Their portions are for human beings. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's like it's just a perfect amount of proportion. It's. I'll be full right to where I need to be, gotcha.
Speaker 2:Love it there, so any thoughts of going to Japan?
Speaker 4:Oh man, I always wanted to go to Japan. Yeah, yeah, for a lot of reasons. I mean, there is a big tourniquet over there in Japan. It's called Spider Spider.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4:And like mainly just blackbuts are invited out there and like you know they only send invites to those people.
Speaker 2:So you have to be invited to go out there. Yes, we invited to.
Speaker 4:Spider in Japan. Yeah, it's a really big tourniquet. I believe they pay the blackbuts well like a hard lot. How much do they pay you? Like they pay you a lot of money. Yeah, about like 50, 60K to win that tournament.
Speaker 2:Oh to win when you win, yeah once you win, that's what you pay like. Whoa dude yeah.
Speaker 4:So it's a big tournament. So I mean, you know, black belt, if I'm winning everything, I'm doing my thing. You know it's always a possibility to get invited out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Japan is awesome.
Speaker 2:It's a nice country, super clean, everybody. Even though you don't speak their language, they're happy to help you. Yeah, because I me, I only know English, I don't know Spanish, I don't know, I don't know I'm with you there, brother.
Speaker 4:She has to work on a MySpace.
Speaker 2:So we're out there and they're still the nicest people because they know that you're going out there for their country right, and you're experiencing you're putting some extra dollars into their economy. They're super nice with you and then their technology out there is super.
Speaker 4:We got some high tech out there.
Speaker 2:It's high tech, yeah, and it just random stuff, like there's vending machines everywhere For everything For everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can get underwear out of vending machines.
Speaker 2:You go to a ramen spot and you it's pretty much a. So you go to a ramen spot, right, like every other ramen spot you go to, there's a vending machine type of machine in the front. So you, there's buttons with what you want to order. You press the buttons and then you, you use your credit card or you pay cash on there, right yeah, and you go sit down, you get a ticket, you go sit down and then, like no more than five minutes later, there's somebody that comes out and brings your food and puts it on your table.
Speaker 4:Dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Make me want to go there and to see all of that.
Speaker 2:It's basically like a kiosk, but just different in some weird way, because the tech, the technology looks old, but the I guess how do I even say this right? So the, the technology seems pretty old, but the idea is new.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. Yeah, see what you're going for.
Speaker 2:It's like seeing. It's like seeing a Model T, but with a Bluetooth inside of it. That's how weird it sounds.
Speaker 4:Yeah, japan has a lot of things that are unique about it. So definitely one, and I think it's one of the most desired places I wanted to travel to. Yeah, yeah, I feel like that's on a lot of people's bucket list, yeah.
Speaker 2:Japan's a. It's a big one. You should, you should check it out. If you like Europe, it's probably totally different though.
Speaker 4:I mean, I love anime too. So you know, oh, there you go. Oh, you'd love it. Then, dude, Of course You'd love it.
Speaker 2:There's anime everywhere. There's girls that dress like anime characters that are just walking on the street.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's, that's so cool dude, I got to see it.
Speaker 1:But I also think that everything in Japan is done with passion, like they're. They get so invested in what they're doing and they don't just do it like half-assed. You know everything is like we're going to go all the way or nothing. And I think that that's why they've excelled in so many things and brought so many things to the US and other countries and contributed, because they're amazing. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, their technology is is out of this world.
Speaker 4:Pretty beyond. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then they're all just the, the, the essence of the. The country is just so, without saying, the vibe in Japan was just amazing and and awe, but the, just the essence of.
Speaker 4:It's like. It's like. The peacefulness and beautiness of Japan itself is just beautiful to look at, Right yeah.
Speaker 2:And then Amber was looking at. I think was it? You looked it up when we got back to the US about how Japan is one of the oldest and most haunted country in the world.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I guess it derives from World War II, right After the bombing in Hiroshima.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, there's a lot of that from World War.
Speaker 1:II it's pretty beautiful, it's cool, it's beautiful yeah.
Speaker 4:If I go to Japan ever, I definitely want to try out Judo over there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I think that would be a really fun experience for me. So, judo is the.
Speaker 2:that's the origin, right yes Of Jujitsu.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 2:So how different is it from Judo to Jujitsu? Like what's the difference?
Speaker 4:The main difference in Judo is that I mean, like I was saying before, it's all about just throwing. So like when you throw somebody that's already points for you and then you got to restart or you know, and then you just keep on going. So every time you get a take down, get back up and take down again. Jujitsu, it's the same thing. If you take somebody down, you just keep on going instead of restarting, and then you just keep on going from the ground and then you know, you just start scrambling around.
Speaker 2:Gotcha. So are athletes still practicing Judo now?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, a lot of people still do Judo nowadays. You know it's still a big sport, you know. So Judo and Jujitsu are kind of like, even you know. It's like they're very similar to each other.
Speaker 2:So you'll see a lot of Judo players, so is there another Jujitsu that's not Brazilian? Is that a dumb question to ask?
Speaker 4:I mean no, I think it would just be like yeah yeah, it would just be Japanese Jujitsu.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 4:Cause, like Brazilian Jujitsu came from Japanese Jujitsu, you know. So they kind of like just made it its own thing.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh yeah, they did have some striking in Japan Jujitsu, that's right. So Brazilian Jujitsu, the striking just made it just grappling.
Speaker 2:Oh gotcha. So it's just the different attacks and styles, right.
Speaker 4:It's funny cause, like I also did wrestling right. I don't know if I already said this, but when, I was doing wrestling at the time when I was also like around, like it was a little bit younger. As a kid, I was using all of the Judo in wrestling Cause. When you put Judo into wrestling, oh my.
Speaker 4:God, it's so, it's so good. Like you, just you could just throw people because, like, it's a lot easier too, and like, when they're trying to go for your legs, as a Judo player, it's easier for you to get a toss on somebody, right, because it's about using that person's momentum right and using your hips to throw people. So it's like, if you're going to double leg me, I'm just going to use that momentum and just throw you over, right, and I was doing that. I went to like districts in wrestling just based off of Judo. I barely even knew any wrestling.
Speaker 2:Oh, really. So you use what you learned in Judo in your wrestling?
Speaker 4:In wrestling. Yeah, and I almost made it to like the finals.
Speaker 2:So is that what you practice in high school?
Speaker 4:No, I was in middle school.
Speaker 2:Middle school. Middle school wrestling.
Speaker 4:Yeah, middle school wrestling.
Speaker 2:Did you do any sports in high school besides Jiu-Jitsu?
Speaker 4:No, in high school I just took two.
Speaker 2:Jiu-Jitsu, oh, you did.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Gotcha.
Speaker 4:Okay, save all your energy for that, yeah because I was mainly I was homeschooled in high school for four years. Yeah, because I had to focus on Jiu-Jitsu and that there was a lot of travel going on. You know, still, as always, I'm always traveling a lot, so, yeah, I mean, that was mainly just that.
Speaker 2:So you're traveling in your early years of high school. I forget how young you are right now. Okay, I got to check myself.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, that wasn't too long ago. Okay, yeah, I graduated in 2021, so I'm 20 now, so this was quite a while ago.
Speaker 1:Gotcha, what year were you born?
Speaker 4:Oh 2003.
Speaker 2:2000,. Can we pull up with the best? The music video was in 2003. Top songs in 2003. Top songs in 2003.
Speaker 4:But 2000's music is legendary. There we go, 2000's music. So what is?
Speaker 2:Oldies to you. What's Oldies?
Speaker 4:Oh man Oldies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I love the Oldies You're gonna say Michael.
Speaker 4:Jackson, I know huh, no, yeah, I mean you could ask my dad. My dad could say a whole thing about that. He was born with the Oldies, you know, like he's in the late 80s. Yeah, there we go, he was born in 1969.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, this guy knows all the classic music, honestly, I love the music back then too.
Speaker 4:You know, it's just amazing, yeah, no. I listen to all the music, because I got it from him, you know. You put me on to all of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Typically that's what happens, right? Yeah, that's it For children. It's usually you listen to whatever your parents listen to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you don't like it as a kid, or I didn't?
Speaker 4:No, that's funny because that's exactly how it was for me. I wasn't listening to any of that music when I was a kid. I was like what the hell is this?
Speaker 1:It's music and now, right Now, you're like I'm just now yeah.
Speaker 4:I would make fun of him. I was just like I'm walking, like this music is kind of weird. I was just a kid, you know. I was just goofing around because I would like that new crazy music. And then, once I got older, then I started to and I was like, oh wow, this old music that my dad listened to, it's like match. I love the mellow vibe to it. It was nostalgic.
Speaker 1:It's just different, it's completely different. That happened to me, my mom. We used to take my mom's from Ensenada, so it's about three hours from here. So we used to take little road trips there and she would play like all her CDs because you know what I mean, the cars had CDs. She would play a whole CD over and over and I would just be like, oh my goodness, and now I play those albums over and over, like when I used to complain and now I'm not complaining, so I love it, so I get it.
Speaker 4:It's awesome when you're older, because when you have like oldie parents right back from those good old times and they show you the nostalgic things like the music and just the vibe, and even then like going like the clubs back then was even fun, and it's like you learn so much and it's like, oh damn, I wish I lived back in that year so I could see like what it was like for my parents. You know, I was asked them that I was like how was it back then? You know, compared to like the year you're now, it's a lot more different. It's beautiful though.
Speaker 1:So, talking about your parents and your dad, you know you're, I'm like they can't see him, but he's here. Yeah, what's your dynamic with each other, like what's your dynamic with your dad?
Speaker 4:Oh, it's amazing. My dad's been there since day one. He's been supporting me, you know, my whole life and when I was a kid he's, and my mother and my whole family. We all have an amazing relationship. I couldn't ask for anything better, you know. They did their best the whole life and I love them for that, you know. So they, they've been there and they're never going to stop for me and I'm always going to be with them. I'm always going to love them and we work as a team. But me and my dad, we had a really like strong bond ship, especially in Jiu Jitsu. He's traveled with me everywhere. He's been there. He's been there like behind the cage when I'm on the match, just like being my own, like my coach, you know, as my dad you know. That's it's amazing, cause you know when you have, when you have a dad, that's just there like screaming for your name and you know he's, he wants the best for you, you know. And so having that emotional support is just it's amazing to have that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's nice yeah For doing something so long right that you are so committed to it. You need that type of support.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like anybody doing for anything, anybody doing for something. As long as you, you need a support system.
Speaker 4:And I think like the best thing about it is that he made. He made a commitment, you know, like like there's not a lot of people out there, maybe a lot of dads that, or a lot of kids that don't have a you know dad that commits. You know what they believe in, what they want to do for you know a very long time. So I mean I've been very grateful that, you know, ever since I did the sport, he's committed to, you know, being there for me and supporting me and traveling around the world of me and doing sort of its tournaments.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it's not. It's not just going out there and being your dad, it's being more than your dad. He's taking time out of his life and, you know, changing his life because he sees the potential in you and what you can do. So I think that's extremely selfless of you, know of your parent to do, and it's amazing. It's nice to see that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, I think about that all the time. You know, it's like, it's just, it's always in the back of my mind, like I'm like, yeah, you really. You know, I've put his like entire life. You know, ever since I was started to, he's never stopped supporting me. Ever since, you know, it's like it's rare to have that sometimes. You know a lot of people don't have that, so you can imagine how, how grateful I'd be for that.
Speaker 1:Does your dad do Jiu-Jitsu?
Speaker 4:Yeah, he did it when I was a little younger with me. So that was also like really fun to have, you know. It was like just being able to spar your dad and just throw for fun, and then him being there supporting right after in the tournament. It's an amazing feeling, like it goes so far that it's like it's like, once I really make it there, you know, I get my black belt open-amount academy, start teaching other people Jiu-Jitsu. Then it's like I want to give the world. I want to do everything for my father since he's been there, you know, since everything I could ever ask for. So you know, there's much I want to do for him, for my parents both my parents, you know they're amazing. So I have a lot to look forward to and especially like just have together. Having this amazing trio bond ship of both my father and my mother, it's just like I want to give them a hug, just never let them go. You know I don't want to see them go, you know that's how I feel.
Speaker 1:Are you an only child?
Speaker 4:No, I have.
Speaker 1:I have Okay.
Speaker 2:I don't know five.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I got I'm the youngest of five. Oh youngest.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh, wow okay, oh.
Speaker 2:does any of your siblings do any type of sport, or you're the only?
Speaker 4:sport. They did it when they was a little bit younger as well, okay. But I'm the only one that stuck to it for all these years.
Speaker 2:Wow, what do you think? What do you think it was that just made you stick with something like this? Is it just your pure passion for the sport?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I would say yeah, yeah, I would say mainly it's my passion. And then, like like beforehand, when it was the bullying thing, that was just a small thing about it, you know, that wasn't too big. It was like oh, I got bullied, you know you get it out the way, right, you get over it. But then after that, once you start sticking to it, it becomes your passion and that's how I felt.
Speaker 2:This question's, for your dad Was there at any point that you thought that he was gonna not continue. It was at the Greenbelt stage Greenbelt for sure. Really I agree. Why do you think that?
Speaker 4:was oh man, that goes a long way.
Speaker 3:I'm sure he was undecided because he wasn't reaping the benefit of sacrificing his body, his life and his whole time us moving. He didn't see where the benefit was any longer it's been so many years no income, no nothing. So I gave him 60 days off of zero training, zero Jujitsu talk. When he went back he was a complete savage.
Speaker 4:Yeah, honestly, the longer it took off, the worse. He even felt it made me come back monstrous, you know, come back for it Like I was starving for Jujitsu, you're hungry for it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I came back, hungry, yeah.
Speaker 4:I was like training my self life from day to day, like morning to night. You know it was intense.
Speaker 2:How often do you take those sabbaticals?
Speaker 4:Man, I haven't felt like that, like I haven't felt like I never wanted to take off. Okay about really, yeah, ever since I went through that that's our honor I just once I came back and never, never let go. It always happens like that.
Speaker 2:I think that once you take you know some time off on whatever your passion is and you just you built a new love for it because you're not doing it During that time, right?
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, that's true. Because it's like, after all that time, like the hell am I doing my life? I might just sit back here when I was already something I already loved. You know there's been a reason to be taken off that time off, you know Well, and also because I had a multiple reasons why I was took that time off. I was going through a lot of, a lot of stuff, you know, in my life. You know personally as well, right, and you know, especially, I caught this, this really bad, severe case of MRSA.
Speaker 2:Whoa, you heard of that, I've seen it before, but I've never met somebody with it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was. It was really bad.
Speaker 2:That's like some. That's like a. It's like.
Speaker 4:It's like a really bad right.
Speaker 2:And then most people get in, like hospitals and stuff. Yeah, okay, yeah um.
Speaker 4:And so when I got that, I was like holy crap, right, whoa. And it's few days later and we started off with just like a little, a little red, like a little. We thought was like a back, a mattebird or something right, it's just like a little little redness there. Thought it's fine, I got over, right. The few days later, just starting in a worse started progressing bad.
Speaker 3:It was getting like pus and all that Now like ball spots it was whoa horrible.
Speaker 4:And the pain, oh my god. It felt like a knife stabbing the back of your head.
Speaker 2:Really nice spikes. Yeah, that's horrible.
Speaker 4:It's horrible pain, yeah. And so once you went to the hospital, oh, I got like freaking. Seven, six mixed diagnosis from doctors.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4:It is. I got misdiagnosed like shingles and stuff Like it. The shingles effect for older people.
Speaker 3:You know you don't get that at a young age, right.
Speaker 4:I was like I was crying and I was crying my ass off. My parents are crying and they over here telling me I already have like a certain amount of time.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I should really pass away.
Speaker 4:I was like I'm gonna die from this, and that's what I was like. We think like 16. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah like a mid-teen, mid-teen age. Yeah yeah, that was the longest time ever. Took off for six months.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was against my will because oh yeah, it stopped me right right so after that time, that's when I became the most motivated to ever ever been right since I was a child, because I was like this is literally like this could like all the hard work that worked for it could literally go down the drain because of this. It could literally like killed me if I wasn't, if I didn't catch up to it. You know, wow, yeah, and that was probably the worst, worst part I had in my jiu-jitsu career, like worst thing.
Speaker 1:I ever had to do it. I always think it's crazy how, how we kind of go, go around life right, seeing people and seeing accomplishments and, like you, like seeing you know Everything that you've accomplished and everything that you do and you're strong and you're healthy and everything. And I would never, I would never think that Right, that we all go through struggles that we're.
Speaker 1:Every day there's something new, obstacles, whether you're really old or you're really young, or you're really healthy or you're really unhealthy. It's just, we go through struggles and to see people like talk about it, like thank you for talking about that, and you know, putting it out there, because I think that it makes you seem more human, like right, and makes you seem like like hey, this guy, yes, he's almost a black belt, yes, he's done all these accomplishments, but he's also a human being, you know you feel you, you have pain, you go through adversities, you go through things and and I just think it's I always forget, and when I we have these conversations with people, it's when it brings me back and I'm like you know what?
Speaker 1:We're all just trying to live our life and and get through things. So I'm glad that you did that. You got through it and and you know, you came out stronger from now.
Speaker 4:Thank you. Yeah, I mean, that was that's what made me came back and never want to go back down that hole again. You know, I was in a very deep hole at that time and you know, I even got like I'm not even afraid to say I got like therapy, like mental therapy, like I needed to talk to somebody, like in therapy, to get myself back in order and to get myself back on the path I wanted to be on, you know. So, like anybody who's out there, like struggling, it's okay to get like therapy, you know, to talk to somebody that you know feel like give you some comfort, especially when you're at your worst, you know.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, this doesn't have to do at all and I feel like than ever and I feel like it's the Because of you taking all those steps right mentally, physical, physically first, and then taking yourself, taking care of yourself mentally that help you strengthen to come back to, to work at your sport. Right, you did it right.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, you didn't just Be this macho man. I don't need to go to therapy, I don't need to do that. No, you took the the the right steps and taking yourself, taking care of yourself physically and mentally too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because not everybody has the, the backup to talk to somebody. You know, right, not everybody has somebody they can talk to. You know, certain parents or a little bit hard to struggle. You know we all have our own unique struggles, but you know that's why it's. It's never a bad thing to go to therapy, to wanting that little bit of comfort or, you know, help talking with somebody to you know, help get yourself back on the path you want to.
Speaker 1:So but even the stigma behind therapy is. Is there. You know where people feel like. You know people that go to therapy only need it or they're really in a really bad spot, or whatever. Whatever the the stigma might be around therapy, right?
Speaker 1:But, it's it. I'm glad that it's coming to light and more people are talking about it, and and and we're using these resources to be able to cure ourselves. You know, or not cure, but you know, help ourselves mentally to be able to do all the physical stuff. So that's cool. That's cool of you to thank you, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's not a share because you know that's that's that's things people need to know out there. You know like there's no reason to even hide that. You know it's just. The truth is it's trial and error. You know that's how you're gonna get through life. You have to go through certain stuff to be back on the path you want to be on.
Speaker 2:Do you think that you're just to the way that you've learned to it, the way that you've accumulated all these experiences on the mat? Do you use any of that into your personal life?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, a lot like anything I do on the mat. I think about it outside the mat, thinking about it on the mat, you know, and I don't ever let you get to like put me down, you know. So anytime I'm in a down state I go back to train even harder, you know, and but it's like that every day, so I'm not using that just because you know. Like, oh, I'm gonna try to help myself, get back up and just try to go back to you to know I think about it every day and the more I think about it, the more I'm gonna be competing, the more I'm gonna be training, the more I'm gonna be waking up and feel enthusiastic to work out every day, you know. So Juju to overall helps me the way I am in real life.
Speaker 2:I like that dude.
Speaker 4:Thank you.
Speaker 2:That's awesome man. Thank you, jacob the brown bull. Thanks for coming out and doing the podcast, man, I really appreciate it dude. This was awesome, mike, good talking to you. Tell us what we can find, you and what you have coming up buddy, of course everybody.
Speaker 4:You can follow me on my Instagram at jacobthebullbrown, youtube, twitter. All of that you already know. And stay tuned for my films coming up. Lake of this, it's gonna be a show, horror film. Stay tuned for Pitched Out and shout out to everybody that watches me. Shout out to everybody I work with. Shout out to Moira brand. Love you guys and everybody else. Have a good time, have a great night, stay tuned.
Speaker 2:Cool and everything to Jacob the bull brown will be down in the show description. If you're listening to this on Spotify, the links will be down in the show description. If you're watching on YouTube, all the links to Jacob stuff will be down in the show description. So thanks for watching and check them out and see what else he's gonna accomplish in the next year. Five years, ten years, dude, I'm excited to see this.
Speaker 3:Thank you, that's awesome man, thank you.
Speaker 1:Do you have any tournaments coming up?
Speaker 4:Yes, I have one coming up. It is February 3rd. Stay tuned for that tournament, alright awesome.
Speaker 1:Is anyone able to just like see them?
Speaker 4:or are they private events or I'll keep you posted on my Instagram. You'll see amazing highlight.
Speaker 2:Alright cool. Alright, amber, do we have anything?
Speaker 1:We have a couple things going on. On February 10th, we're holding hosting a Valentine's pop-up in the city of Paramount, at Orchartaria Real Luna, and then you have your thing on the 23rd.
Speaker 2:Yep. And then 23rd, not the 26th.
Speaker 1:And then on the 24th we're having a small business seminar. So if you're a small business looking to where to start or elevate your business, now come and join our seminar.
Speaker 2:Cool and shout out to Andy C Comedy for hooking it up with today's t-shirt. I appreciate it, buddy. Thanks, man. April 8th what am I saying? April, february 23rd, check it out live podcast open mic. That was comedy. See you guys in the morning. Boom, it was awesome, dude, heck yeah.