Protocol is a modern synth/rock group from L.A. founded in 2018 by Omar Paul Novielli and Miguel Villegas. Synth/Rock, Synth/Pop
youtu.be/TL2aMDCerhs?si=1PAt90popJREPIyJ
When life throws a curveball of hectic weekends and team sniffles, we all reach for our trusted family remedies. This episode, we found humor and truth in the simple act of staying hydrated, which turns out to be more than just a cure for the common cold—it's the elixir of life for our creative souls. We then swing into the vibrant beats of the Latino music scene, with Amber from MyGrito Weekly guiding us through the latest shows and tracks. A warm welcome is extended to Miguel and Omar from Protocall, who bravely navigated the storms of scheduling to bring us a sneak peek of their fiery new project.
The musical journey is never a straight line; it's an ever-evolving dance of genres and emotions. We celebrate this blend, touching on everything from the sleek allure of synth pop to the shadowy depths of dark wave, as we refuse to be confined to just one sound. To add to the mix, we chuckle over the quirks of promoting our art in the digital age. The struggle, as they say, is real—but so is the joy of crafting tunes that reflect our personal evolution, and we share a piece of ourselves in discussing the upcoming album that captures this very essence.
As the needle drops on the record of nostalgia, we reminisce about the art of DJing and the tactile satisfaction of vinyl and cassettes. Fashion and music trends tend to come back around, and we muse on them with laughter, knowing their return is as inevitable as our affection for the bands and genres that have carved out a space in our hearts. Lastly, we rally the troops for our show in Maywood and a side-splitting local comedy night, affirming that a healthy dose of support and mirth is always in style. Join us for an episode that's as eclectic and energized as the sounds we love.
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"King without a Throne" is performed by Bad Hombres
King without a Throne Official Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNhxTYU8kUs
King without a Throne
https://open.spotify.com/track/7tdoz0W9gr3ubetdW4ThZ8?si=9a95947f58bf416e
Protocol is a modern synth/rock group from L.A. founded in 2018 by Omar Paul Novielli and Miguel Villegas. Synth/Rock, Synth/Pop
youtu.be/TL2aMDCerhs?si=1PAt90popJREPIyJ
When life throws a curveball of hectic weekends and team sniffles, we all reach for our trusted family remedies. This episode, we found humor and truth in the simple act of staying hydrated, which turns out to be more than just a cure for the common cold—it's the elixir of life for our creative souls. We then swing into the vibrant beats of the Latino music scene, with Amber from MyGrito Weekly guiding us through the latest shows and tracks. A warm welcome is extended to Miguel and Omar from Protocall, who bravely navigated the storms of scheduling to bring us a sneak peek of their fiery new project.
The musical journey is never a straight line; it's an ever-evolving dance of genres and emotions. We celebrate this blend, touching on everything from the sleek allure of synth pop to the shadowy depths of dark wave, as we refuse to be confined to just one sound. To add to the mix, we chuckle over the quirks of promoting our art in the digital age. The struggle, as they say, is real—but so is the joy of crafting tunes that reflect our personal evolution, and we share a piece of ourselves in discussing the upcoming album that captures this very essence.
As the needle drops on the record of nostalgia, we reminisce about the art of DJing and the tactile satisfaction of vinyl and cassettes. Fashion and music trends tend to come back around, and we muse on them with laughter, knowing their return is as inevitable as our affection for the bands and genres that have carved out a space in our hearts. Lastly, we rally the troops for our show in Maywood and a side-splitting local comedy night, affirming that a healthy dose of support and mirth is always in style. Join us for an episode that's as eclectic and energized as the sounds we love.
My Grito Industries
mygrito.net
Subscribe to The Mindbuzz Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIYj7eDCsV3YPzxv7VRKZKg
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"King without a Throne" is performed by Bad Hombres
King without a Throne Official Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNhxTYU8kUs
King without a Throne
https://open.spotify.com/track/7tdoz0W9gr3ubetdW4ThZ8?si=9a95947f58bf416e
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Speaker 2:This podcast episode of the MindBuzz is brought to you by House of Chingassos. House of Chingassos is a Latino-owned online store that speaks to Latino culture and Latino experience. I love House of Chingassos because I like t-shirts that fit great and are comfortable to wear. I wear them on the podcast and to the Cardenas Salas. Click the affiliate link in the show description and use promo code THEMINDBUZZ that's T-H-E-M-I-N-D-B-U-Z-Z to receive 10% off your entire purchase. The cash saved will go directly to the MindBuzz podcast to help us do what we do best, and that's bringing you more MindBuzz content. Click the link in the show description for more. It's three days away and that's Dalek Comedy. I'm just super excited for this. It's three days away. I'm getting over from being dead for the past three days, or at least week, and I'm all for it. The MindBuzz we are back. What's up, mindbuzz Universe? Welcome back to another episode of the MindBuzz podcast. I am Gil, your host, and working the board is Amber. How are you, amber?
Speaker 1:Hey, what's up, I'm better.
Speaker 2:How you been.
Speaker 1:I've been better.
Speaker 2:It's been a crazy week and a half In a day. Maybe it's all a blur, honestly. And then leading up to this, friday shows is crazy, yeah everything's been happening really really fast.
Speaker 1:It's too fast, we had that packed weekend when we had the things we had to do and then we had the pop-up and then you got sick for like a week and then you recuperated and then I got sick, and then it's been crazy, definitely.
Speaker 2:Does it sound like I just woke up?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:We're good. You're good, we're on schedule.
Speaker 1:But we're good, we're getting healthy, we're doing what we gotta do.
Speaker 2:I'm drinking water. I had no clue how much water I could drink until yesterday. You need water.
Speaker 1:That's what we need. That's what your body. I feel like. Water is the answer to everything. Or maybe I'm just turning it into my mom, because my mom for everything would be like Tomawa, tomawa, mom, my stomach hurts Drink water, my head hurts Drink water. So now I'm her.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I believe her now. She was right all this time.
Speaker 2:The whole time. My family didn't. I wish my family I don't. We didn't really get pushed water. You know what I mean. So it's different.
Speaker 1:Got it Noted no.
Speaker 2:I'm serious. What if they tell?
Speaker 1:you if your head hurts.
Speaker 2:I don't know, go lay down.
Speaker 1:Oh, that works too.
Speaker 2:Or move out of the way. Close the door. What are you doing, kid Get out of here, get out of here, we're busy. It was fun, though. No, I think it, just it didn't come across that way. I mean, my dad was always a drinking coke and coffee, and that was it, and not much water. So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, not anymore.
Speaker 2:All right, I think we have a my Grito Weekly and then we're going to get into our today's guest. So our today's guest, Amber, take it away with the my Grito Weekly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Bad Ombres will be performing at La Cita in LA this Friday, the 23rd. Heartless Sweetwater will be in Arizona at the rhythm room on February 29th. Maria Sanchez will be performing at Alex's Bar in Long Beach on March 2nd for Ladies Soul Night Rundown. Creeps released their new music video called Big Bear, which can be found on YouTube or the link on their Instagram bio. 3lh also released their latest single and music video, darling, which can also be found on YouTube. The Paranoils will someday release their new music video.
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Speaker 2:Go check it out, go check out the my Grito Podcast down on the show. The Script Shown and, without further ado, let's get into today's guest, miguel and Omar from Protocall. What's up, guys? How you guys doing hey.
Speaker 4:Hello, good evening.
Speaker 2:Thanks for coming out, thanks for having us Appreciate it, thank you, despite we had cancellations, reschedules, the rainy day season, all that good stuff. You guys are friendly here At your native couldn't keep us apart.
Speaker 4:Exactly.
Speaker 1:It was meant to be, it was fate.
Speaker 2:So I thank you guys for coming out and doing the podcast. We've gotten connected through our homie Dante. That's right, the homie that's in. Where is he actually? Where is he located? Because he's doing business all around the world.
Speaker 1:He's in the USA. Yeah, mexico City. Yeah, in the capital, oh my.
Speaker 2:God. Yeah, there you go Both and you guys are working on a project.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's been a while now. It's been a while. We, Miguel and I, we're the members of Protocall and we've really started our first album February of last year. We had plans on doing it February this year, but we just get lazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's, it's it's, it's underway.
Speaker 4:We just released our first single and getting ready to release our next single and March 12th.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 4:So things are moving slowly but surely.
Speaker 2:And how many members are in the band besides you too, 25. Whoa, it's an orchestra Protocall orchestra.
Speaker 3:I like it, what do?
Speaker 2:you play the triangle and trombone. That's cool. The timpani.
Speaker 4:No, it's just a two point. Oh, it's just the two of us.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 4:So you're a regular synth pop. Uh, two pieces, Standard two piece.
Speaker 2:Do you mind if we play some of your music? Amber was playing it earlier today.
Speaker 4:Absolutely not. Can't get enough of it.
Speaker 1:He's like no more, no more. Are you guys on Spotify?
Speaker 2:Barely.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:But it's on there, yes.
Speaker 1:I'll go on on the Instagram, there we go, pull up their Insta. This one was. I really liked this one.
Speaker 4:Oh the.
Speaker 1:Christmas one. I know it's not Christmas, but I really liked it.
Speaker 4:It's a shame that we're unable to release that this year, maybe I mean last year, maybe this.
Speaker 5:Christmas time we made it in the studio. So if you say yes, just having fun.
Speaker 2:That's cool.
Speaker 1:It sounds really cool.
Speaker 4:Oh, the sequence. The programming for the synthesizer sequences took me about half a year, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like I don't know if I have to be scared or to be like marry, but I like it.
Speaker 4:But as soon as the beat comes in, like the synthesizer sound like snowflakes the sequences. Here we go.
Speaker 5:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:That's so cool. That is really awesome. Do they know it's Christmas?
Speaker 4:Do you see what I mean about the visuality? When you hear it, it sounds like kind of like snowflakes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, this is the kind of Christmas music I need in my life. I'm tired of the same old Christmas music.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm tired of what's-your-face.
Speaker 1:Mariah Carey yeah, let's bring protocol.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's replace Mariah Carey with protocol. Calm down, let's see that let's hold it.
Speaker 4:No one song we need to put to rest is well, this is a mix of whenever we do a cover. We do two songs and I find the songs that I like, and they have to be relatively close to each other as far as the beat how fast the beat is, because we mix it into one. So the beginning is do they know it's Christmas? And the second one is Last Christmas. However, last Christmas, the way that we did it is very protocol, it's very innovative, it's very you've never heard anything like that. But that is one song that they really need to put to rest, because I must have heard like at least 20 different versions of this last, and I mean I heard Backstreet Boys, was it?
Speaker 4:or in Sync, something like that. I've heard many different versions of people that have the resources to do something cool and it just sounds like still.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It sounds really stale.
Speaker 1:I like that version.
Speaker 4:Thank you.
Speaker 1:That's really cool. So how would you guys, for someone that wouldn't know, maybe even like for myself, how do you describe the type of music that you guys make? What is like synth pop? How would you describe it?
Speaker 4:Well, synth pop is basically when you had your punk music and you had bass, guitar and drums and you were able to eliminate the drums, the bass and the guitar and swap them with synthesizers and drum machines. You know, they're still playing the role. There's a bass synth, there's a sequence that's doing the role of a guitar and there's a drum machine that's playing the role of a drummer, but it's a little bit more refined, because synth pop we're talking at least 80, 81. And by that point we had gone through post-punk and things were really refined. It was. That's why it's pop. It's supposed to be very lush, luscious recordings and you know big, big, big productions, not, you know, uh, raw rock.
Speaker 5:Yeah, there is. There is something about protocol which is a mix with, uh, some rock, so we can call them as a synth rock, you know, like, yeah, it is some really nice, um, sometimes aggressive guitar, you know, and, as I say, it makes a really nice mix. It's really hard to find like this type of music. You know we're pretty proud of about protocol, because it's different.
Speaker 4:And, uh, I guess what we're trying to say is that there is synth pop and there is a lot of. There are a lot of bands that are synth pop and that is basically just paying homage to all the 80 stuff and it's just basically just repeating those same formulas and that's okay. That's what you want to do. But me, us we like to create new music, innovative music, and to do just synth pop. It's kind of limited, so what we do is kind of synth pop rock, because we are also I'm also influenced by the nineties, not only eighties. Nineties was more like mine where I grew up. But, um, as you get older and older, a lot of music loses class, or I just don't relate to like deaf tones at this point anymore, talking about skateboards and wearing dickies like I'm over that.
Speaker 4:I've been over that. I like music that that grows with me, that matures with me, and for some reason it's always been synth pop that has had this very sophisticated approach to music and and romance as well. And those bands, when they wrote those albums they must have been 20, 22 years old. But in comparison to the kids now that at that age they were Jesus, they were like wizards of maturity. You know you don't find that anymore, so that's, that's that's kind of like. What we gravitate to is just music that really speaks to us at this point in life.
Speaker 2:You know, would you say that what you play now is completely different than what you listen to in your 20s?
Speaker 4:No no no, not, not, not really in our 20s. I mean, I love, I still love Incubus, and it's because of that point, because they they didn't stay there with all the other metal, new metal, although they're not really new metal, but like that generation, they always seem to have more of a poetry and more of an outlook, a positive outlook on life, as opposed to, like Linkin Park, talking about so many negative things. And when you know you bring negativity into your life, you talk about it, you're going to bring it into your life. You know, and but no, no, that's the whole point that as as I grow older, the other bands that I've listened to before in my life, they've been eliminating what.
Speaker 4:I've noticed in the last 15 years is that the only ones that really stayed there are the synth pop, because they were always ahead of me to begin with.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I think is, at the end, all the music that we do is is because it's a fusion, or those bands that we really like, we are identified with, you know, and and it's pretty cool because you can feel it you know, when you're finishing a song or just start listening how is building it and then you can start adding different sounds, but it's it's that like a fusion, or different styles of different bands that you really like.
Speaker 2:So when you're creating a song or a project, do you have a certain sound that you're working towards or does it just develop as you're going?
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 5:It just, it just come out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:From nothing, you know, but it's something that it attracts you, you know. You find some sound and then you said, oh, this is perfect, but at the end we're two piece. So when we listen what we are building, at the end we are in the same spot both of us, you know.
Speaker 4:And then you start seeing, like what you are creating at the end, you know, as something that is a fusion of everything, or the band that he likes and the bands that I like, or the styles that we like, you know so yeah, I mean I guess, when we're talking about fusion, that there are there are a lot of synth pop bands that, just like I said before, they have a good sound and you listen to their album and they're all pretty much the same and that's fine. That is fine. However, I get bored as a musician playing that stuff live or even just writing it, because I'm going to have to hear it a thousand times when I'm doing the mix and I'm doing the master. So I have to write music that I really, really am passionate about.
Speaker 4:And when we talk about the fusion is that there is no one formula like, for example, twin Tribes or she Passed Away. Those are great bands in all, but once you have that recipe down, you could do an album. You know there's nothing new, different about the different about the next song, and with this is like, for example, this first new single that we put out for the new album. It's more alternative synth pop. The next one that's coming out is more post punk synth rock. The next one is coming out is more dark wave. And then the following, that is, bossa Nova electronics, which is the first time I've ever heard something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's something I've never heard of before either.
Speaker 4:So that's the difference between protocol and other synthetic music. Gotcha, you guys are always developing something new and fusing fusing something I mean obviously we I mean protocol is it's a Spanish and a lot of songs are in English half and half. And also this new album is going to have one song in German and it's very theatrical, it's very, you know what I think is.
Speaker 5:The music is like a playground, you know, and then you have to have fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:So whatever it is there, you just have fun. You know the most of the bands try to found and like an style or most of the times use the same recipe, but we try to all the time like playing with everything that we have to say have to be like, for example, post punk or new wave you know, dark wave, we have all those styles, but we can create that style with, with, with, some new fusion yeah fusion as a protocol.
Speaker 5:you know we have to leave a mark of this is us, you know, and I think that's the reason we have fun.
Speaker 4:I mean it has an ups and it has its downs. I mean for music, you know. You know being innovative, that's what I'm all about. We get the job done. Now getting gigs it's hard because we're not 100% post punk, we're not 100% goth. We're not 100% dark wave and we have pop elements in us, so wherever we go, it's like we don't really fit. That's the problem, gotcha.
Speaker 1:That makes sense.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It makes sense. But but it's also really cool that you guys aren't like that because, like like you were saying, like you don't get stale and you create music as you mature and as you progress in age and time. Because, yeah, there's bands that are are timeless, but again, they were bands that you listen to when you were 15, like you were saying about skateboarding and things like that and you can't really, as an adult or like for myself, a 33 year old now, I can't. You know, I can listen to it one time, but it's not something que me llega, it's not something that you know when I'm in my field you can only be a teenage dirtbag for so long or something like that so I
Speaker 4:absolutely I like that.
Speaker 1:I like that because I never thought of that. I just always thought that you had to choose a different artist or a different genre and music as you matured. But kind of creating music and going creating music as you mature and as your time changes is is really cool concept and and I'm glad that you guys I mean everything, everything.
Speaker 4:everything I do is for art. I don't expect anything, yeah. I'm not looking for fame or or anything, or like money or anything like that. I mean, at the end of the day, it's it's it's art. But we knew from the beginning that doing this, we were going to be on on risky waters.
Speaker 5:We knew it, we knew it.
Speaker 4:Or we could just play it safe. I mean, I could make you a post punk album one day. One day I can make you the 10 songs and you know we'll be right there playing with it with. You know what's what's happening right now the post punk pandemonium. But but no at the end of the day, all I've got is all we've got is our art, and we're proud of it. We're proud of it even though not everybody catches on to it too quickly, but the ones that do tend to hold on and like it.
Speaker 2:And why do you think that some bands still still play it safe? Is it because of the the fear of fitting into a certain genre or getting gigs?
Speaker 4:I'll be 100 completely honest with you. I think that at least 90% of the people that are out there trying to make music do it for for popularity and for them and for fame. And you know followers. And if you're an attractive lady, if you're in a, or if you're a band of girls, or if you're a handsome guy and you get followings for for the wrong reasons, not specifically because of your music you know that there is a, there's a thing going on that has been going on for the last 10 years that if you know, you know how to sell yourself, that you'll get it.
Speaker 4:I mean, I know many artists that have ridiculous amount of followers but, in my opinion, have absolutely no talent, right, you know. And then there are some that have a lot of talent that have absolutely no followers or even a Spotify page, you know. So it's, it's, it's all up in the air who has the resources as soon as how to do something or what? But, to be honest, it's not only with music, it's with everything. Nowadays, with social social media, everything is because you want followers and that is basically fame.
Speaker 2:Right you know that's all it is.
Speaker 5:Let's talk about Phil Collins. Right, he is not a good looking guy, but he's amazing you know, he's amazing. Billy Joel you know there is a. I think in these days, if Billy Joel or Phil Collins was looking for to be famous or, you know, express their talent, I don't think they're going to be accepted. No, because no because a lot of the people they are looking for for how they look.
Speaker 2:They look the image. You know. You think James Brown would have been as famous, or he's a good looking guy. No, he's in the middle.
Speaker 1:No, he's pretty, but that's why he has that, you know you know he's so funky.
Speaker 4:Yeah so ugly James.
Speaker 2:James, I mean those braids Right, you see those dogs that have eyes all year with the tongue sticking out and no teeth. Yeah, but people love them.
Speaker 4:I forgot what movie it was, that there were some some comedy role, comrom, whatever, but they were talking about Jim Croche. Jim Croche, and you know he's one of the best folk singers, songwriters of all time. You know message and timing, a bottle, all that stuff Saying what do you think if he were to be here?
Speaker 4:the same question you just asked you know, because I guess, like one of the one of the actors was an A&R person and saying, oh, this is such beautiful music, do you think they would make it nowadays? And they both start laughing. Look at that face. There's no way.
Speaker 1:There's just no way it wouldn't happen. Yeah, I mean, I think it's sad that that's what we've kind of come to and you know we're in it right now.
Speaker 2:It's happening right now. It's probably been happening for the past decade, Like you just said.
Speaker 1:I used to always think, because I, because I would think like, is it just me that I'm getting older and I'm busting one of those like oh, back in the day, or back in my day. You know those like oh. Cuando estaba más joven, las cosas eran diferentes you know things were.
Speaker 1:So I was thinking like, is that what I'm busting right now? But then I come to a conclusion that no, it's just music is not. It's not what it used to be before. I feel like personally myself, I can only speak for myself but I feel like you're saying like it's more of an appearance of how you carry yourself, the fashion you know, oh, what kind of show. Are you gonna give? What's your following on Instagram? Tiktok Like, that's what gets the famous.
Speaker 2:So you're saying that that's how it is now? Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like, while looking like all the people that got famous during the pandemic when they hopped on TikTok, and that one girl, olivia Rodrigo, or one of those she just went on TikTok, she sang and then she blew up and now she's like a multi-billion platinum recording artist and all these things and it's like she's good but she's not great, and you know I think it's a mixture of some luck and some preparation right and when you're prepared enough for that, certain that certain little split second in the universe of time, and you get just a little bit of traction and keeps building.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's where the success, at least in social media, comes from, is if you're, if you just hit it right because it's a gap, some of it. I've read that some of these things are. It's statistically, there's a science behind social media which I get. There's algorithms for different things, but also sometimes it just comes down to pure fucking luck. Sometimes, oh, it does, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:But the whole discussion here is that it's no longer talent.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It's no longer talent, because I mean to be completely honest, like I'm overwhelmed, I get a headache Sometimes. I'm fed up with it, the fact that you know we've got to handle the all the social media that we have to do, you know, follow up with Spotify, follow up with YouTube, follow up with all these different accounts that a band needs nowadays to be considered a band. And then by the time I'm doing that, I'm like, well, damn, like, when do I actually write music? You know, like any of the like.
Speaker 4:To be honest again, like I don't have that demeanor, I don't have that type of personality. Or I'm like selling myself on a video. If you do that, that's fine, but I'm not the type to be like, hey, next Friday my album drops, you know, and like be promoting that every day and just infesting the people with your world. You know, I put it out there once or twice. They already know us. If they like it, they like it. If they don't, I'm not gonna convince you to buy it, but there's hardly any room to do that. Any of the artists that I love, they don't have that personality either. I don't see Jim Morrison going out and like, hey, follow my you know Instagram account. You know what would the?
Speaker 2:Lizard King do now Like. What would the Lizard King be on?
Speaker 4:Instagram. I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Right, would James Brown be on Instagram maybe?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, he would be. He would go dance at tutorials.
Speaker 2:Have you seen? Have you seen his interview on a news channel? Oh yeah, it is super hilarious, it is fucking amazing have you seen this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, when I'm having a bad day I look up that video because it's my favorite. But just put up a little bit. I wanna see. I've been in a James Brown mood for the past.
Speaker 3:This is absurd.
Speaker 2:Well, he just got out of, he just got arrested or something, or he just got out of jail and the news was asking about something. Oh yeah, there you go, that's it.
Speaker 4:He sure was fly though.
Speaker 2:He was on a good one. I'm seeing him, look at him, look at him.
Speaker 4:He's better here than any of us.
Speaker 1:How did all of this trouble?
Speaker 3:begin Living in America. You're wrong, nothing wrong at all. You're not in any of your property, but you're out on bond. No, I'm not. Have all the charges been dropped? Yeah, I don't love.
Speaker 2:I don't love.
Speaker 3:Are you out on love or out of love? Which is it? I don't love. I don't love from night to night James this isn't the first time you and your wife have had a problem.
Speaker 2:This is national TV. This is CNN.
Speaker 3:You want to talk about music and you don't want to talk about what happened. No, that's all over. Let's talk about your tour. When are you leaving? When are you leaving tomorrow and where are you going?
Speaker 2:Oh, that's good.
Speaker 3:Rio de Janeiro and San Paulo, brazil. Your fans will have read all about this, james. Aren't you concerned about that? No, I'm not. I can't move you.
Speaker 4:No, no, that was inaudible.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna shut up the world. Yeah, nothing to say. But yeah, I 100% agree with you. It's a lot of work on how to be like what you said, how to be considered a band. Where's the time left for you to actually start working on your project?
Speaker 4:Well, that's that. It's hard to find time. It's hard to find time. I mean I do a lot of most of the writing but regardless, like Miguel here, he's got his family. I'm lucky I didn't go that route and I have more time. But because of that I'm spoiled and I need my naps and I'm very picky. But when I do make time, you pick up the guitar and you just start fiddling, have some ideas, and then I show Miguel some ideas and he's like you know what? Those are cool, those are cool. Let's make them a song. I write a chorus to write this, that the other. Okay, now we have the idea what we're gonna do. Now let's really record it. So then we start doing the DAW, the digital audio. So let me just put it this way For each song it takes me about four months.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow.
Speaker 4:For each song it takes me about four months and that's because and it's too much, it's too much really. It is for most bands it's one month. But what we have is the sound. That's what we have, that's what we go by, and to me that's a difference. You know, I was never really much into punk growing up. I couldn't stand the sound of it. How horrible was recorded. You know, I would have been in the 70s, I was telling.
Speaker 3:Miguel.
Speaker 4:I would have been a huge BG fan you know, or even when the post-punk started, but the punk punk, like I can't, I just can't. I would have been much more into like singer songwriters, or I love ELO, things like that. Those things opened up my mind a lot. But yeah, we focus too much on the quality of the product. The quality of the product and, like I said, I have to really love a song because I'm gonna hear it a lot of times. And then, miguel, you wanna tell how many times I heard the last song, this newest release.
Speaker 5:Yes, you know it's like four. Yeah, it's hard. I've been doing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you listen to it for a billion times and then you still have to go out and perform it too, right?
Speaker 5:Yeah, but you know what? There is something that is good we have a lot of songs, right, we still have a lot of songs which is gonna be more easy, you know, in some way, yeah, it gets easier. Yeah, but yeah, for the first album it was kind of hard right, because we tried to find, like, the way to get the song done and we started looking for a guy that helped us right, remember, yeah, spent a lot of money in.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we're trying to find a producer, a producer, somebody at the beginning, somebody to record us and we just will pay him If it's gonna be like at a great level and we must have recorded one song, like four days ago, right, and we started to record it, and we must have recorded one song like four different people. And every time I just felt like crying like this is horrible. This sounds like a brick. All you're doing is just making it sound like everything that's out there. You know like you just pressed a preset.
Speaker 5:And it's really funny because one of the producers he told us like okay, guys, but how do you wanna?
Speaker 4:How do you wanna sound?
Speaker 5:How do you wanna sound? And then, when he asked, how do you want to sound?
Speaker 3:What a question right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:We was like Okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, duran Duran. Yeah, what I'm like? No, I wanna sound like you know how Duran Duran.
Speaker 3:We're not saying like protocol. You know Make sound like Duran Duran.
Speaker 4:Right, you know, and nobody could get it Me myself I grew up, since I was really young, doing a lot of recordings with multi-track cassettes and tape, a lot of real tape, basically analog machines, and I'm really good at it actually. But you know, for about I don't know how many years 10 years I just never, never, never got into like the computer stuff you know, like Ableton or or what is it.
Speaker 5:Ableton.
Speaker 4:Ableton and more. You know all those dolls. But I mean, and then I was like you know what? We have spent like almost $10,000 trying to get this one song done and it sounds like crap. I know I could do a better job. All I have to do is learn how to navigate with the program, cause I know everything. I've done it, but by hand, like with real equipment. So it took me about a year to really like master it with tutorials on YouTube. Thank God all that stuff is available.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can learn anything on YouTube.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, so I got into. I mean, like I said, I really know how to do it, but I just need you to know how to how to travel within the program itself. Once I got it down, it was a piece of cake. It was a piece of cake. I knew exactly what I was doing and exactly how I wanted my sound to sound, our sound to sound. But yeah, you know, you live, you learn, man, it's just that you lost a year there.
Speaker 4:We lost a lot of about two years to having faith in a drummer in a drummer that we wanted to have an electronic drummer behind us.
Speaker 4:Like, put in an electronic drum set sound very new wave. And you know story of my life, you know every band I've been in somebody has somebody gets married or somebody gets into drugs or this person is just not willing to go all the way and everything just falls apart and falls apart and falls apart. So after we invested so much time into recording with people and a drummer, we were starting again from scratch. So from that point on it's just the two of us. It's a synth pop band. You know I can't take any more risks too much.
Speaker 2:Having a band. It takes a lot from everybody, right? Not, it takes a lot, but you just have to how?
Speaker 4:do I explain this Commit yourself.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, it's a commitment, it's a commitment.
Speaker 2:And it's a commitment between, not just a commitment between yourself, but a commitment to other people. It's like it's like marrying different people, but for the sake of something.
Speaker 5:I can let him down. You know, if we already planned something, we have to make it work. So yeah, it's hard, but at the end, when you, when you see the product, you say like it worth it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, and it's not only a commitment, but it's also, I think, the true, true, true artist sacrifice. And I mean that, like even with time that you spend with your family. And you looked upon us like that weird artist. You know, you may come around every other Christmas, but not every Christmas because he's busy, you know. And, like I said, yeah, we haven't made any money off of it. I've never made any money off of this, I never got any real recognition or anything, but I do it for the sake of art, for the sake of art, and if there's one thing that you count on with protocols, you're gonna get something that's truly pure and that in itself is worth it.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:So take me back to this analog machine, cause I've seen a digital audio workstation. I'm trying to remember what.
Speaker 4:Yeah, kind of like a multi-track recorder, right, right, but it's still digital.
Speaker 2:Do you remember Cause? I want to take a look at one.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I know them all. I know all the task items, all the other roll ins Can you look up?
Speaker 2:Can I look up the? I want to see the actual like physical one that used the analog Like. What is that?
Speaker 4:Like the one that I first, first, first one I got was like a task cam a four track, four track set. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:That's a toy compared to what he's talking about.
Speaker 4:No, well, I mean the first, very first one I had.
Speaker 5:Digital. Yeah, that's the first one.
Speaker 4:No, no, no. Now we're talking about tape tape, yeah, not digital, though those are digital Tape. So what would I Google? Four track tape Tape, yeah, yeah there you go. This one.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm, it was kind of like the one, the blue one, no at the end, no, no, no at the end. The $380 one, yeah, that one, this one, that one, that was like in 1995, I believe I had that in my room and, as you can see, you only have six tracks or so and you have to balance them, and nowadays, when you have your dog, ah.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ, oh, there's a tape right there, so everything's. So you plug in your stuff on the back right. And are there? Are they all?
Speaker 4:quarter inch inputs no they're quarter inch in the back, and then there's your. You get like two XLRs for your microphones. But yeah, you would just connect your drum machine after you've programmed it and then you would record it on two channels and you would add your bass and then you would jump them again. So you're taking up four tracks and you jump them into two, then you have four free again. You see what I'm saying and you know this is like to me this was like amazing when I was a teenager in my room, you know, coming up with my songs, and then I moved on to the eight track.
Speaker 4:Then in 2000s you moved on to the big digital consoles or bigger 32 channels, and, yeah, 32 channel consoles. But that's where I started.
Speaker 2:Why would you even need 30? You would need somebody with. There's somebody out there using 32.
Speaker 4:Well like when I started, no, but like, for instance, this last song, with this new song coming up on March 12, we used 28 tracks, but this song that we just released in D it has 78. Geez, now you can understand why it took me four months to balance all that out. Whoa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it's 78 different, like little like, cause I don't know music okay.
Speaker 4:So you're talking to a first grader here, right? No, no, like, for example, there are claps.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 4:And that's a one track, and then, on another one. There's like a snap.
Speaker 1:So you have 78 different 78 different Holy smokes.
Speaker 4:I mean, the drums are taking about 15 by themselves.
Speaker 1:By the way themselves.
Speaker 4:Then the guitar take up about another 10 or 12. Then we have I always, most of the time I use two different types of bass, like a real bass on the verses and in this particular case it was a real bass on the chorus. And I mean on the verse and on the chorus it's a synth bass.
Speaker 4:So, when you try to mix those, it's like whoa, you get all these ideas and it sounds cool, but when you actually try to like make sense out of it, it takes a lot of finesse and a lot of work and a lot of knowing how to feel the weight of music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause how do you even? I mean, obviously you both know how, but like me, if you gave me 78 different tracks, it'd be like where the hell do I put this and this? And that and like that. I can't even imagine how your guys' brain is wired, cause that's crazy.
Speaker 4:They're running off you.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's really hard. That's amazing, though that's amazing.
Speaker 2:And then especially, to go from one generation of making music to another generation of making music. Right, like you have to go from this world, learn this world and then go to a computer Basically the same type of stuff, maybe a little bit different, maybe the names are changed on certain things, but and then to create music again. It's wild. I've only been able to work with a DAW and that's it. I don't need to learn anything else, unless something else in the future gets like maybe GarageBand is no longer accessible anymore and it's a different.
Speaker 4:I don't think so, right. I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah All right, I remember. This is why I like stuff like this is because I used to record. I used to record radio songs on tape. You know how they had those radio radios where you had the tape and he had blank tape and just exactly. That was always fun for me. Amber just recently got into what is it called? The vinyl deejing Amber just got a cool set.
Speaker 4:Oh cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that was just navigating that, learning how to RC, like I've never messed with RC cables before.
Speaker 4:All my stuff has XR. Wow, that really makes me feel.
Speaker 1:We've always been into vinyl, at least for myself.
Speaker 2:We've always both been into vinyl because of our parents, but we've only had one console and we didn't have to hook anything up Nothing crazy, just the vitrola type of nothing crazy, just the plug and play.
Speaker 1:So we got, I got a whole system, because I said that this year I wanted to learn how to DJ vinyl and we got it and I was like, okay, what do I do now? You know, like there's all these buttons and everything, and I'm like I thought this was gonna be easier, like me just putting the vinyl and putting it, but it's not.
Speaker 4:I mean it is easy once you get the concept of it. I was a DJ before I started writing songs.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, when I was in sixth, seventh and eighth grade.
Speaker 4:Hey, yeah, we were like the little kids that hung around the cool older brothers.
Speaker 4:I didn't have an older brother but my friends, they're older brothers, just all this is the Peshmo and all this is the cure and they would take us. I remember going to a club like in Merrill's when I was 15, like 21 and over. Yeah, like all the time. Like I grew up like quick, you know, but yeah, that was my thing for up until eighth grade when I started picking up the guitar, but for three years I was just DJing and DJing, buying records and basically what it is. I mean you go either way, like well, I mean you have to hear a song and you gotta know, okay, well, it's that fast, I know another song. That's about that fast.
Speaker 4:That's gonna match it, or at least relatively, somewhere in there, and then you know you're playing that song. And then on the other turntable at least my technique was that, like you get the snare, so it's boom ka. You have the ka right here, ka ka, ka ka. So this is going boom ka, boom ka. You release it on the ka boom, kuh, boom, kuh, boom, kuh, boom, kuh, boom, and now they're locked. Ah, you see but you have to find your speed and get them.
Speaker 1:See, I'm gonna get tips from you, I'm getting tips from my dad and his best friend and los dos, ni uno ni el otro, and they'll make up their mind.
Speaker 4:It's supposed to be, fun.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be fun.
Speaker 1:But you know it doesn't get fun when your parent is like but don't do it like that and I'm like, oh man. So, my dad used to my dad's from. He was born in Mexico but brought here young, so he kind of grew up here. So my dad used to pop lock and he was into, like you know that time in the 80s, and so was his friend and everything.
Speaker 1:So his friend used to DJ and then my dad used to kind of like DJ as well, segun el, so they're both right now. When I brought the turntables home they were like oh my God, and you know they're all excited. And then my dad's friends like he doesn't have kids. So it's kind of like I'm his kid, you know, and he's like I'm gonna buy you lights Y te voy a comprar esto en this and that and I'm like I don't know how to break it to him that people don't DJ with like lights anymore.
Speaker 1:So I just let it happen. Gilbert's like you're not gonna need a light and I'm like just let him buy me a light.
Speaker 4:He's like I'm gonna get a beaded jacket too. Yeah, I was like you buy whatever.
Speaker 2:She needs a glove, just one glove. Have him get you one glove, I'm like you buy whatever lights you wanna buy, go for it.
Speaker 4:It'll be like a like a macro Jackson glove, but it'll be soft, so you pick it up and you clean the record, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So we'll see we'll see how it goes. I'll let you guys know how it goes. Good times. Oh man, that's crazy, that's funny.
Speaker 2:That vinyl thing is coming back dude, it's wild how certain things like that from the past always make it into what's happening now. Like even bands are racing. I heard there's like a shortage or something, because there's only one place that makes vinyl in. Where is it? I don't even remember.
Speaker 4:We gotta look that up. There's a lot, but they're really expensive.
Speaker 2:Is that? Yeah, they're really expensive.
Speaker 4:I mean they can look at at least $4,000.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's crazy, that's wild.
Speaker 4:Because it was expensive. It's just that first print.
Speaker 2:You know what I?
Speaker 4:mean, that's the big deal.
Speaker 1:We've seen a lot of bands do their music on CDs now.
Speaker 2:CDs, yeah, or tapes. Who's making tapes now?
Speaker 1:I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2:I wanna see people make tapes.
Speaker 4:That's mainly like the indie crowd that makes, because it's kind of like you know.
Speaker 1:Retro.
Speaker 4:It goes chikonchi, yeah, retro, retro-ish, and that's the. I mean. Just when we were talking about things come back in style or whatnot. I still have like my rave clothes that are back now in style and like bell bottoms that I used to buy at Artworks and now bell bottoms are you know, they're on sale again and leave eyes and whatnot. They're sunning them. And then my skinny jeans. You know they came back 20 years after and everything.
Speaker 3:Everything.
Speaker 4:I'm lucky, I don't throw anything away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you just hold on to them for just five more years, they're gonna come back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I could hold on to them. But it doesn't mean I'm a size zero.
Speaker 2:Does it mean it's gonna fit?
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm not the same size as 10 years ago.
Speaker 2:It doesn't mean it's gonna fit, but you can always hold on to them for another couple of years, it'll be in.
Speaker 1:It'll have a whole stack of shirts that he wore in high school that he's like.
Speaker 2:I still have them.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna fit into them. I'm gonna fit into them.
Speaker 2:Because there's shirts you're never gonna see again. That's why.
Speaker 1:That's why, maybe in 20 years.
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't think so, because those bands don't even print shirts anymore.
Speaker 1:So who are some of? There's a question for both of you who are some of the bands that inspired, or not even inspired, but some of the bands that you like and that you gain, yeah, I guess, some inspiration from. So either of you, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I mean I could talk for hours. Yeah, no, we're good. No, no, no, no, no, no. When we got together, we both have different influences and, like I said, I also come from like a grunge background and alternative background. I love prog music and I die for jazz and country music as well. Like I love all those genres. I love so many. I love Elvis and Beatles. I'm a huge beat-a-maniac. We both collect records as well, vinyl. But when we came together, that was, I mean you have to have a common ground, and the common ground was more like the synthetic music and, again, because of the maturity of being able to play popular music with a certain maturity and those bands you know, a shortcut to thinking would be like the Peshmo. That's too plain. It's more like the new romantics, like Ultravox, Talk, Talk, Japan. These are all bands between 79 and 82.
Speaker 4:As well as Durand-Durand, but like you know, that era between 79 and 82, it was called New Romantics. It was a movement from the, from the post-punk, but it was I mean the name says it all New Romantics. You know it's very poetic, it's going to sound lush, it's going to be of a high production, quality, high production. I think that's where we mesh on the synth stuff. On the New Romantics. Now I could be more poppy and I could be more into like OMD and bands like that. And he's a little darker, you know. He's like Wolfsheim and you know Bluechairs, pink and he's got a lot, you know.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's more like Darkwave. You know Gothic Wave and all those like post-punk. I really love post-punk but I identify my music is like more like Darkwave. You know, Almost like a D80s but more like that style. You know, even here I have a sister, so mercy you know, and I love that type of music. Bauhaus, you know, pinkstores turns blue, it is a Vau, it's a bunch of bands, but that type of music I like it because I like to go to the clubs and dance.
Speaker 4:He's a dancer.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I like it yeah because it's something that is pretty cool, because you can go there and you can dance, and nobody it's uno, ¿cómo se dice?
Speaker 1:críticar Josh, josh, you yeah, critique, yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah so no te van a juzgar.
Speaker 5:So you have fun. You know it's a really nice place and you enjoy the music, you enjoy the people. It's different.
Speaker 4:It's a holy event. I mean not only the dancing and the music, but like the getting dressed up and, you know, getting like a Gothic Saturday night fever, like in your oh, there goes the guys from Protocol what's up. You know you got a little bit extra special attention just because you're in a band, you know.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 4:So that's cool, but it's the whole thing. It's like the fashion and the music and the friends. It's like big community. It's the culture. Yeah, it's a huge community and you know I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it. You know there are like different degrees of synth music. You know you can get really dark and really like bondage and leather and whips and you know, just dark and dark and I'm like that's cool.
Speaker 4:Like you know, in certain doses, but there's also like the soft side, like Pet Shop Boys, it's like super pink, you know, and like flowers and whatnot, so like Miguel's over here and like somewhere in the middle and Miguel with whips and.
Speaker 2:Whips, chains and.
Speaker 4:So it's a good combination.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:If we were both dark dark then it wouldn't. Yeah, yeah, so many bands like that already.
Speaker 2:There's enough contrast between both of you guys. Yeah, it's a really nice balance.
Speaker 5:Okay, even if you can feel it in the music, in the songs, I'll tell them no, that's too dark, Too far.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:Sometimes it's too dark.
Speaker 1:Miguel, are you from? It is a Mexico.
Speaker 5:Jalisco, jalisco Nice.
Speaker 1:So is there a lot of bands in Mexico with the same type of like, like post punk and like synth and all that, or is it not? No?
Speaker 5:there is a lot of a lot of bands that they have. They try to do like newest, new type, new styles, you know and but honestly I never heard like something like like that we are doing. You know it's more like rock, punk and indie, you know. But you know it's a Jalisco. There is a lot of fans of really good music, you know. I'm telling you because when I was in La Secundaria it's like kind of like high school right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:So here, like I love the cure, you know. And then I met with Joy Division those days and I started knowing I knew post punk bands because it's funny, but there is a lot of 80s bands which it was post punk when they started. So you start looking for those albums and you start knowing they start growing. You know your favorite bands, you know, but it's a lot of people that they are. They, like you know, look, most of the people they are looking for new music and they really enjoy the music.
Speaker 1:So nice, I think one of the I wouldn't, I don't know, don't, don't, don't get my review, but the band that I came across a couple years ago, get on the Mexico but, I, think they're called like Friolento or something like that. And they made a lot of songs but like they did like a reggaeton song, that kind of went viral. But they made it into like that post punk, like high-pitched.
Speaker 5:Oh.
Speaker 3:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5:Yeah, I, I, I, I, I heard of that.
Speaker 1:Pull it up. Well, that's what I mean about, about, about that's what.
Speaker 3:I mean about the movement.
Speaker 5:It's trending, it's trending.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that type of music.
Speaker 1:The style of music is trending and. I don't, I don't think they I don't know if they're on here- yeah, is it them?
Speaker 5:Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, see, they did a big shot. This is. This was fun.
Speaker 2:So they hold on. Give me some context here. So they're, they're a what? What type of band are they?
Speaker 5:It's boss punk Post punk.
Speaker 2:They're a post punk band, yeah, and then they made a reggaeton song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is a reggaeton song they took the.
Speaker 4:They took the lyrics and the melody from a reggaeton song.
Speaker 2:Oh, and then they also do like this one, La Gata Bajo La Ubia, which is is like a like a Doña song, you know.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:One of my favorites, but I'm a Doña.
Speaker 5:It's fun, it's, it's, it's funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like 80s.
Speaker 2:So this is a like that's the style, yeah. Reggaeton.
Speaker 1:No, you wow. No, it's the lyrics.
Speaker 2:The lyrics is from the reggaeton song. Oh, okay, so they covered it, but.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's a cover.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So that was one that was fun, so that was one that was like going around and it was the first time I had heard, like like something you were in Spanish that I was like right, okay. And then it went like crazy.
Speaker 2:Did it. Yeah, that one crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it went pretty viral.
Speaker 3:It was like during, like the pandemic.
Speaker 1:So what's the difference between like post punk and like like all these different ones Like? Is there a difference or?
Speaker 5:Well, they take only the beat, and the synthesizers as well, everything, and they just made something.
Speaker 4:It's a given.
Speaker 5:But it's the same formula, you know. It's something that you can make it in 10 minutes. Yeah, it's nothing like nothing new, you know.
Speaker 4:Definitely not innovative.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I am a truly strong, strong believer, like about what you are, what you eat, and it goes hand in hand. Like you know, you are what you listen to.
Speaker 5:It's because it's popular, like it's trending. So yeah, if we want to be.
Speaker 4:But then again, like I don't follow anybody, I go by my own current.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And sometimes I feel like if I listen to bad music, like it sets me back. You know, it sets me back intelligently. I feel like I lost brain cells. It's a funny song the way they mix.
Speaker 5:Like you know, reggaeton with post punk is funny.
Speaker 1:So it's more entertainment, yeah.
Speaker 5:Like actual music, but in in giving my point is that is not used.
Speaker 1:No, it's just very one sided.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no substance. Yeah, yeah, I mean, at this point you're going to hear millions of songs like this because of AI, so I'm saying you should just punch in. Oh, I want to make a post punk song, post punk who do you want to sound like? This person? And and what? The technology, how far it is, is that you could sing and you can make your track, and then AI will ask you what singer do you want me to translate your vocals to? And it would actually. You know, you could actually pick Eddie better and it'll make your vocal sound like Eddie better. And that's AI. And then the song came up artificially as well. So I don't see this any different from that, but, like, every little noise and every single grain that you hear from protocol was made by us and hand hand picked and engineered and worked on a lot.
Speaker 4:It wasn't just a loop that we stole or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That makes sense. Hell yeah, thanks guys for coming out and doing the podcast.
Speaker 5:Thank you guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Thank you, go ahead and tell us where we can find you and if you have anything coming up, go ahead and check.
Speaker 4:We just trying to fill up our, our Instagram. We only have a couple of family members following us. That would be follow underscore protocol in Instagram. And and yeah, we're going to have a show at Bricks Rock Bar with a with a bunch of independent LA Spanish bands on Saturday, the 20th of April. So you have two months exactly to clear your calendars.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:You want to go to the? That that flyer?
Speaker 5:I think it's the there, we go Under here.
Speaker 2:Yep. Oh yeah, whoa, it's a whole thing too, whoa.
Speaker 5:So you guys going to have fun, whoa.
Speaker 2:That's a whole day thing that's cool.
Speaker 4:We go on at 11 PM All right, I'm going to take a nap.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go here Take a nap.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Somewhere we got to and then we're going to go back.
Speaker 4:Excellent yeah.
Speaker 2:In there.
Speaker 4:So yeah, just make sure you follow us here on Instagram. We're trying to build this up a little bit, that in our bios where we have our our latest single.
Speaker 1:All right Cool. Oh, it's in Maywood.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's not too far.
Speaker 1:No, not at all.
Speaker 2:Cool.
Speaker 1:For you, wow. From here, yes, but from where we, where we always are, now, yeah.
Speaker 2:We hang out in North Long Beach and and Paramount. Oh fantastic Downing Cool. So all the links to protocol stuff will be down in the show description. Follow them on Instagram. Check out their stuff on YouTube. Their link is right there and I'll put the link down in the show description. If you're listening to this on Spotify, click the link it's in the show description and if you're watching this on YouTube, check out their YouTube Chingadera. So what else? What else do we got Amber?
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