Haydel Brüder is a band
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Ever wondered what goes on behind the music? Copper Rock is here to quench that curiosity, revealing their sonic evolution and jaw-dropping plans for theatrical live shows. It's not just about the music; it's the brotherhood, the collaboration, and the shared mission to leave fans spellbound that truly defines this group. We've also cracked open the conversation about social media's impact, dissecting how platforms like TikTok have reshaped the music industry. Discover the challenges and triumphs our guests face in this digital era, where artists navigate the complex web of monetization and strive to maintain the integrity of their sound.
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"King without a Throne" is performed by Bad Hombres
King without a Throne Official Music Video
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King without a Throne
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Haydel Brüder is a band
https://www.youtube.com/@haydelbruder5086
Get ready to rock your podcasting world with The MindBuzz and MyGrito Industries! Join us as we unveil an electrifying partnership and event showcase that's set to amplify the laughs with Delic Comedy's upcoming episodes. Expect a rollercoaster of humor with our very own Johnny Gold, Johnny C, and Thiccy Ricky at the helm. But that's just the start; we're also rolling out the red carpet for the enigmatic Haydel Brüder. They're here to share their origin tale, artistic influences, and the deeply personal craft behind those distinctive masks that have become their hallmark.
Ever wondered what goes on behind the music? Copper Rock is here to quench that curiosity, revealing their sonic evolution and jaw-dropping plans for theatrical live shows. It's not just about the music; it's the brotherhood, the collaboration, and the shared mission to leave fans spellbound that truly defines this group. We've also cracked open the conversation about social media's impact, dissecting how platforms like TikTok have reshaped the music industry. Discover the challenges and triumphs our guests face in this digital era, where artists navigate the complex web of monetization and strive to maintain the integrity of their sound.
Wrap up your headphones and press play on an episode that delves into the digital transformation altering the music landscape. Learn from our guests' experiences as they juggle self-production and the quest for sonic quality in a genre-exploding universe. It's not just a discussion; it's an exploration of the artistic journey, the dedication to craft, and the passion that fuels each chord, beat, and lyric. So tune in, lean back, and let us take you on a journey through the heart of what makes music, well, music.
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"King without a Throne" is performed by Bad Hombres
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNhxTYU8kUs
King without a Throne
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Speaker 2:This podcast episode of the MindBuzz is brought to you by House of Chingassos. House of Chingassos is a Latino owned online store that speaks to Latino culture and Latino experience. I love House of Chingassos because I like t-shirts that fit great and are comfortable to wear. I wear them on the podcast and to the cotton assadas. Click the affiliate link in the show description and use promo code THEMINDBUZZ that's T-H-E-M-I-N-D-B-U-Z-Z to receive 10% off your entire purchase. The cash saved will go directly to the MindBuzz podcast to help us do what we do best, and that's bringing you more MindBuzz content. Click the link in the show description for more. The MindBuzz is powered by MindBuzz Media. Mindbuzz Media is an on-site video and audio podcast production company. Have you ever thought about starting your own video and audio podcast, or do you have an existing podcast that you want to take to the next level? Mindbuzz Media brings a professional podcast studio to you. Visit mindbuzzorg for more the MindBuzz. Let's do this. What is up? Mindbuzz Universe. Welcome back to another podcast episode of the flagship show of the MyGrito Podcast Network.
Speaker 1:They're going to say the shit show.
Speaker 2:Not yet.
Speaker 1:Doesn't it sound like at the beginning?
Speaker 2:Oh no, the flagship show of the MyGrito Podcast Network. If you guys didn't know, the MindBuzz is part of the MyGrito Podcast Network, which has their own podcast now, which is their second episode. You can check it down in the show description and yours truly helps out with that podcast. It's pretty fun. You should check it out. That's cool. It's like the MindBuzz 2.0.
Speaker 1:Without me.
Speaker 2:Without Amber. Yeah, I think that's the only thing that's missing. Well, you're going to be there the next time we record, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're going to make a day of it. Oh wait, yeah, yeah of course you are.
Speaker 2:We don't have a MyGrito Weekly today or this week, and today and Thursday. So what do we have in the MindBuzz Weekly?
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:We do have a MindBuzz Weekly. How about that?
Speaker 1:Tomorrow, right Tomorrow, you have something going on.
Speaker 2:Yes, we do. Wait, I do. That is correct. So we are hosting the first Poodle Laugh's Open Mic in the city of Paramount. Can you pull that? There we go. First Open Mic in the city of Paramount, hosted by Thicky Ricky, ricky Novella A Poodle Laugh's Open Mic, wednesday, march 6th, ochatariah Rialuna, paramount. 5-minute Sets, one item minimum beer, wine and coffee available. It's going to be a good night. It's going to be fun. Other than that, we have March. Do you have an event going on this weekend?
Speaker 1:No, on the 16th I have an event going on, and on the 30th 30th.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool. And where can we find all that beautiful stuff that you're going to be?
Speaker 1:doing. We'll be having two pop-ups. One is just kind of, I don't know, commemorating spring. And the other one's going to be pins and stuff. So we'll have some vintage clothing and pins and records and things like that. So we'll be having that at Ochatariah in the city of Paramount as well.
Speaker 2:Cool and since you guys have been asking, delet Comedy the first episode is going to be premiering on this channel. Go to Mind Buzz Media. If you're watching here already. This is where you can subscribe and get the notification. Hit the bell for the Delet Comedy Open Mic Showcase and live podcast episode one. It is hilarious, it is awesome, it is great. We have comics from all over the Inland Empire, comics from all over Long Beach. Come and bless us with their presence. Best host, johnny Gold and Johnny C and Thicky Ricky on stage and he weaseled his way into the panel. The guests, yeah, which would fuck her, but anyways, it was a great show. Anything else before we get into tonight's episode? This is going to be no, I'm excited. I'm excited too. I'm very excited. Less of us, more of them, less of us, more of them is what you say. Let's get into it. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Heidel Bruder Perfect, perfect pronunciation. Is that how I get? Okay, cool, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:I mean, there was maybe a role that could have been in Teach us.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, show us, show us.
Speaker 5:So if you were going to pronounce it, you'd be Heidel Bruder. Depending on the spelling people say Haidl as well.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, haidl Bruder.
Speaker 5:Right, right, like so many good things yeah.
Speaker 1:What does it mean?
Speaker 5:So Heidel Bruder, I mean, that's Heidel.
Speaker 1:That's my brother here. He's the drummer.
Speaker 5:Haidl and then Bruder is just brothers. Bruder exactly is brother. Bruder is plural, so brother's, more than one Right on the U and what is Heidel?
Speaker 2:Is that? That's just his name, just the name, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool.
Speaker 2:And so, before we get into how you guys formed, let's introduce. You want to do the introduction of the band and what you guys play, right?
Speaker 5:So, like I said, we're Heidel Bruder. I'm Brut, the lead singer, the drummer here. My name is Heidel Right, and then back here in the black knapsack is Ragen. These are guitarists and we have a second guitarist, Kadaver. And then we have our newest member, our bassist Gottreit.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, welcome into the MindBuzz Studio, guys. Thank you for having us. Thank you, I appreciate it. So tell me about how you guys got started. You guys just finished a residency in the city of Pomona, right? So go ahead and tell me about how you guys got started as a band. I'm excited to hear this, right?
Speaker 5:So in 2018, we had this idea to make a band. We didn't really have an idea of where to go with it. We had inspirations from different musicians like Ramstein and Ghost and David Bowie, lou Reed, that whole sort of spectrum and Ozzy Osbourne, typo Negative, and then we just sort of like, made it, you know, manifested it, and I don't know if you could tell, if you're a fan of ours and have seen our work before. We don't have a lot of the same members. All three of these guys behind me and next to me are new. Really, we've had, I think what five members before this. Whoa.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so how long have you guys been a band?
Speaker 5:Well, technically, since 2018, since the thought popped up. Our first performance was in 2021.
Speaker 3:At the Whiskey of Goga.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, la.
Speaker 5:Right, I mean we had a good turnout. I don't know if people came for us, but they were fucking there to stay there.
Speaker 3:So it wasn't the best performance out of ours. It was our first one ever. And so there was a lot of mistakes in there, but we pulled through.
Speaker 2:And if you guys are listening to this on audio, go watch it on YouTube please, if you're listening to it, but if you're watching it, keep watching they look really cool.
Speaker 1:Thank you, I'm like half scared, half impressed.
Speaker 2:I was pretty scared when, on the drive over here, like I said, we were getting ready coming back from the hour. I'm just a weenie. I'm a weenie when we were at.
Speaker 1:I don't like to go to, like not scary farm or any of those.
Speaker 5:Right, well, we don't either. Actually it's funny. We were outside, parked out front, and the neighbors across the street, I mean somebody pulled into the house in front of us and they obviously gave us an eye, and then some guy went to go check out his RV this late at night.
Speaker 1:And of course he wasn't fucking doing that.
Speaker 5:He was looking at us because we asked to show like that.
Speaker 1:I'd be mortified if I see you guys through my window.
Speaker 5:I believe it, but it's awesome. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2:So you guys manifested in 2018, first started playing 2021 and then have had rotating members from then until now, right?
Speaker 5:We had a God. Who do we start with? It was you and I we did. Pomona is open loud, which is just the open mic outside during COVID.
Speaker 3:Right, what do I say? Open loud.
Speaker 5:Okay, and then we got a bassist. His name is Zella, he was our longest member. And then we had somebody named Raleigh who was a great guitarist, but he fell flat. He did a no call. It was a call that a fucking show. No show at an event. So of course we had to drop him and his brother. And then we had somebody who volunteered to be auditioned to be a guitarist. She didn't know how to play guitar.
Speaker 1:Oh, of course she didn't make the cut. Who else was?
Speaker 5:there.
Speaker 3:Oh man, We've had the last one played with us at the whiskey.
Speaker 5:Oh, that's right. So we had somebody named Gunta and then Rocco, who were great guitarists, and they played with us at the whiskey go go, but Rocco felt like he needed to split. It wasn't really his thing. And then Gunta, we had let him go as well. He was a great guitarist, he just wasn't a good fit. And then we just recently lost our former bassist, zella. Rest in peace. He's not dead, but he's just not around.
Speaker 4:Oh, wow, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:So tell me about the masks. So tell me about that. Are these like you guys? Make them Like yours. Seems like you handmade yours right, sort of.
Speaker 5:I mean, if you've ever seen the movie the Purge, those white people masks. I mean I just made it more white, okay.
Speaker 2:If it's a condonnet.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's about it. That looks cool. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 5:All of us had a different sort of method of getting around masks and ideas behind it, I mean, like I don't remember what was the inspiration behind yours. If you had one.
Speaker 6:Probably the the Bouta, the mask of classical Venetian carnival, carnival mask.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 6:Or by, like aristocrats and people who didn't want to be seen with prostitutes, whoa.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, I need to get one of those.
Speaker 6:Hey, you can still drink.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 6:That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2:All right, and you said that he had a knapsack.
Speaker 1:Or is he still wearing?
Speaker 2:it.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He's still wearing it. Of course he is, so tell me about yours.
Speaker 4:Well, initially I had a different mask, but this one I made myself and it was kind of like, I guess, executioner mask zodiac inspired.
Speaker 2:I like that.
Speaker 4:Which is why I have like the glasses too.
Speaker 2:So did the members before break them up, before these guys? Did they wear the same? Was it the same mask or no?
Speaker 5:one who joins the band has their own, has their own thing, okay they can't make it up themselves and of course I will give them a mask.
Speaker 2:Whoa, you know, that's cool, right, and what about? And what about yours back there?
Speaker 3:So mine is just like a skull mask.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry. What was your name again? Oh, my name is cadaver. Cadaver, I'm probably gonna ask you again, cadaver. I'll remember that, though for right now, cadaver, I like it, it's cool. And then yours, hatal.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you can notice, but Our logo here resembles my mask. See that so typical skull mask and do a little.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I see that.
Speaker 5:Those are for you, by the way. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2:Heck, yeah, dude Got some pins.
Speaker 5:So that was the latest album we just uh, I didn't just release fucking.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, that's cool.
Speaker 5:It's called the anti son, some whoa. This is really awesome downtown, did it for us really, yeah so what would you guys describe?
Speaker 1:Because we see your look, we see you know Kind of the instruments that you guys play, but well, how would you guys describe your music to someone that maybe doesn't know, like you know some of the people that you guys mentioned earlier, or like like in what I don't even want to say, what genre would you guys fall into, because I don't want to put you guys in in like that any of that, but how would you describe your music to someone?
Speaker 5:Well, we first coined the term copper rock because we felt like we were too sort of malleable and cheap to be like solid metal. So I think of like typical.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:So copper is a very malleable metal. It could be made into a lot of different things. So we kind of we genre bend often. So it's not just metal, it's rock and roll. It's got some folk, some ambiance, some shoe gaze, almost you know Metal core of the dabbling in a bit more, especially with the newest member, a cadaver here. He's been really shredding it so like he's really been putting in a different direction, more technical.
Speaker 2:Okay, right. And cadaver, you play guitar. Okay, do. Were you playing in a band before? Do we talk about that? Do we talk about?
Speaker 4:sure, yeah, the bands before yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:How long have you been playing guitar, buddy? It's a long time to be playing guitar call someone with the cadaver buddy. Sorry, how long you like hey little man hey bro, hey guy Senor, okay, cadaver, my bad, sorry, how do?
Speaker 5:you talk to trigger treaters often.
Speaker 2:I, you, I don't Know right, I don't know. Here's candy dude, that's it. Eight years shredding on guitar, taking you guys in a different direction, more technical, sure. By technical, what do you mean technical?
Speaker 3:I guess if you guys have heard of like metal core, Okay any kind of metal, just more technical, as in the guitar work, even the drums just more. I would like to say more going on Mm-hmm, more, more layering, more, more tablature Quicker, just everything, just more Everything, yeah and have you guys, since the rotating members and starting you know, from 2018, have you?
Speaker 2:so you've seen a kind of like evolution From you know, starting the band, getting the different members and absolutely you know I mean how you felt that change.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because at first it was just me and him mm-hmm and, obviously, since 2018, we've discovered a lot of bands as well, and so that they have obviously influenced us a lot. And then, plus getting everybody else Everyone can put in their two cents, so it's not just coming from two brains here we have everyone else. So no, there's been a huge change from 2018 to now. Wow, and hopefully in the future as well.
Speaker 2:Whatever you so, from that time on, what have you noticed that? What so like? What was the biggest change that you've seen? Of course, the the sound of music because of the different Musicians, anything else that you notice that changed just a little bit.
Speaker 3:Well, probably performing yeah we've definitely gotten a lot tighter With the past members. Things were okay, things weren't perfect, but this group things seem a little more where they're supposed to be.
Speaker 5:It's very tight. This, this group, with this ensemble we have right now, is like the tightest we've ever been, really. Yeah, it's a very tight 25 to 30, hardly any flubs. As there is a flood, it's usually on my end.
Speaker 2:So it's, it's, it's tight, it's tight man dude.
Speaker 5:You haven't seen us yet, no night yet. I'm surprised because I'm sure you guys are Pomona Locals, right? Right, I mean of course, around Pomona now, but mean DBA. We had the residency lasted all month, missed out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I missed out. Yeah, I missed out. Hopefully you guys get another one soon, right?
Speaker 5:Well, in DBA, probably not anytime soon. We have two gigs this coming month, though. Oh sorry. Yeah, so the ninth we have a show in.
Speaker 3:Riverside, and then the 29th we have a show at the doll hut in Fullerton right.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love the doll Hot even there. Okay, yeah, the the beer, the tap beer, one. I Feel like there's two. No, there's two doll heads. Can you look that up, ember? I feel like there's two and the bartender looked at me crazy when I said is there? Like another one. I feel like there's another one there's. There's one in Anaheim and Fullerton.
Speaker 5:Okay, so they told us Fullerton, but the gig is in Anaheim Is this one right. Well, how does the inside look? Is there a bunch of stickers in the wall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah that's the Anaheim one. Have you been there before? No, it is such a cool venue.
Speaker 1:You're gonna have a water line. That's why they say one and then the other. Hey, wait, say that again cuz you guys are saying that one there's. They said Anaheim, but then they said Fullerton, and I think Anaheim and Fullerton are like border.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they're, that's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Got it. Yeah, that's such a great venue. What day is that?
Speaker 5:That's the 29th.
Speaker 2:Oh, hell, yeah, hell, yeah, we gotta go. Yeah, it'll be fun.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we're on at 830. Okay we're playing with a bunch of other great bands. One we've always played with is a devil's kettle. Very a tight young metal group, very cool, very cool, always willing to support us. So yeah, they're gonna be there.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, do you guys Like like is there more to your performance than just like kind of playing the instrument? So you guys do anything like like moving around or like not moving around, obviously right, but like anything theatrical or anything like that or not, just well enough, there and playing.
Speaker 3:We're hoping to expand more on that by this upcoming year, just instead of. Obviously, the masks are Pretty, pretty crazy by themselves. Yeah we want? We want to add more kind of the standout, more from the crowd. You buy some extra lights or like a Giant fog machine or something.
Speaker 1:Something crazy, something to really like a fire torch or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was gonna do the dangerous. Tiki sort yeah, I'd be a good element, yeah okay. I could wear a black cloak and a couple of torches get her. Oh, there we go yeah we'll come out from the backs and no one really like is you know, expecting it?
Speaker 2:And we come to what would your mask look like Amber, if you, if you would have to Say they say okay, sure, but you got to wear a mask. It's a long shot, I.
Speaker 1:But they say yes like a creepy doll one. Okay right with like dark eye and kind of like the broken.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like a porcelain doll right, there we go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I already. I already thought about it. All right, cool.
Speaker 5:You just got auditioned.
Speaker 1:Okay, I got a process.
Speaker 5:Process yeah.
Speaker 1:I could just bring the fire. That's all I could bring. Okay, I don't plan instrument.
Speaker 5:So something catches fire, we'll just blame got it.
Speaker 2:There we go, see you, there you go I have insurance.
Speaker 1:She'd be a lot.
Speaker 2:We don't know she could be liable for everything, so that's fine. The doll had do that to really cool venue. I like it first. I was there, we I like about a week ago. It was awesome.
Speaker 1:Dude.
Speaker 2:It was a really cool, really cool, really cool vibe there, I like it. I went to a Open mic there, a comedy open mic. There was a open mic at the beginning for like about an hour and a half and then there was a comedy show At the end. Of that. It was really cool.
Speaker 5:Was it a Darby cash?
Speaker 2:there. No, darby wasn't there. It was on Wednesdays and usually Darby cash. He hosts his own feet, that funny open mic in the city of Claremont.
Speaker 5:Okay, I asked because he did one of our live sets at DBA, one of the first time we played At.
Speaker 3:DBA.
Speaker 5:Am I the first time we played at DBA?
Speaker 2:he filmed their first set. Oh yeah, that's right on YouTube. Yeah, that's right. Oh, he did.
Speaker 1:Yeah okay, I have something on YouTube.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, tons of things. We have a music videos. We have live performances. We have that, that whiskey performance. Of course, it's very a novice of us to keep it up there, yeah it's Not the best right, but it's up there but but it's you right, it's, it's oh yeah, it's
Speaker 5:you and you learn from it and and it's right, you know, oh, that's so we did a cover of a song from a band of an Orange County band called lava love. It's a female indie group and we were introduced to them by, of course, our bassist of the time, xella, and I love the song very much. It's called luck and love very good song.
Speaker 1:Can we, can we?
Speaker 3:play a little bit Sure.
Speaker 5:Yeah, go ahead I.
Speaker 2:Have a. October coûter a and you said this is a cover.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they have a music video on there too. It's a Parisian. This is very much darker. That's higher too. That's what my crochet killed out. I wasn't gonna ask oh, you should have.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna walk me back to the beginning once again.
Speaker 2:That's nice.
Speaker 5:Once again. I should have.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Yeah you should have worn it.
Speaker 5:I know it's usually uncomfortable on pants.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 5:That, amongst other videos, we have a hate of voting music video. There's been another cover by David Bowie, which is the German version of Heroes, and tons of other things like performance, wise things like that. That's the one the Darby shot right there.
Speaker 2:Darby is an amazing videographer and an even funnier comic.
Speaker 5:He is hilarious, he's quite the character.
Speaker 1:It's cool. Everything ties together. You're not just performing it as your human self, You're adding an element on there which is awesome.
Speaker 5:I think that tends to stick out with most of the hills and brawn. It's memorable dude, you know speaking of memorable, one of the people I saw at the Dole Hood not in person and also on your podcast was Sugar Mill Slim. Yeah, he was great. I mean that was definitely an inspiration to get on this podcast. Sugar Mill was great.
Speaker 2:They're awesome. I think they're gonna be going on tour too, amber, yeah, I think they're gonna be going on tour.
Speaker 5:Oh, and like to Europe, to Europe. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:I just love talking to musicians because they're just seeing them grow in their arts and doing tons of great stuff. Our friends the McCharmleys are doing a tour of the US with their surfer jets yeah, so pretty cool stuff, man.
Speaker 1:Do you guys ever get any bad feedback or somebody maybe I don't know, I'm thinking on the religious aspect of things or anything like that. Have you guys ever had someone kind of tell you guys anything or no Not?
Speaker 3:yet I don't think so Honestly. I don't think we have a big enough following for people to say and you're not walking around on a daily basis. So we haven't heard anything negative yet, but I guess we're still waiting. Yeah, right, and we're in California.
Speaker 5:to be honest, it's not like typical. You get like a religious backlash, however, usually around people who are pretty against religion in general. I think as a band you have your own personal aspect after the show and I'm sure that can cause a conflict with people. You know creative differences, but I think that's about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Typical artist to artist chat.
Speaker 1:That's cool, that's good.
Speaker 2:So are most of your songs in German.
Speaker 5:I would say a lot of them are. I couldn't say most I couldn't recall, but yeah, but like the lyrics and singing really, yeah, yeah. Wow. German is my second language. I learned it myself since 2016. Of course, I'm not from Germany, so that's why my German is so bad.
Speaker 2:Let's just do the whole interview in German.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and you can retaliate in Spanish.
Speaker 2:Well, I can.
Speaker 5:Amber can.
Speaker 2:I can. You can't say Spanish, no.
Speaker 5:Okay, well, I'm learning. So.
Speaker 2:Are you really? He just looks like he could speak.
Speaker 1:Spanish.
Speaker 5:I just look like it, your studio Español.
Speaker 2:There we go, I guess, I think trilingual. Trilingual.
Speaker 1:You can barely speak one girl.
Speaker 2:I know my English isn't really good either. That's terrible.
Speaker 5:But I think the average speaks Spanish, the wee bit Okay.
Speaker 1:He's like don't throw me under the bus.
Speaker 2:I know right, oh man German, very, very heavily German inspired lyrics. The art on here is just it's magnificent, you guys. The whole aesthetic is just it's amazing. All the way down to the album covers you guys on stage. How important is that to you?
Speaker 5:Which part.
Speaker 2:All of it. How, being a what I have been getting to notice with musicians and just do I say branding? Right, if it is branding, how important is that? Just the art in general. I mean, come on, you guys can. You can have just got somebody to just do a digital art for an album. Let's just let's talk about the album first and the art on the album. You guys could have just got somebody to do a digital album.
Speaker 2:Right, like, did you know that you guys wanted to do something spectacular? This is really good. This is really good art.
Speaker 5:Oh cool, thank you. So of course I can't take credit for it, but the person who did it of course knew the type of vibe he wanted to give off and despite his, his pretentious attitude, he made it fantastic, yeah. So I mean like, honestly, it's just knowing what we wanted to present, while being subliminal and also very heavy, was the, I guess, the vibe we were trying to go for. Yeah, because I mean nothing when you look at it. Nothing really sounds, looks comfortable or makes sense.
Speaker 2:No, no, but it ties in. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 5:Right, and of course it's a subliminal. Not a subliminal, it's a. The subject matter is very narrative driven.
Speaker 2:Every time I look at this, I'm finding something different.
Speaker 5:Well, good, as far as you can keep it. You can look at it every day I'm just spending.
Speaker 2:I'm looking at it right now, wasting time on it with you guys. But no, this is magnificent, dude. Thank you, Thank you, but I mean all the way down to this. What I guess, what I'm trying to say is just there's a lot of thought that goes into being a musician is what I'm saying, and especially having five members in a group and you guys are all talking to you know, I do this because you guys, I mean, I don't know what I'm trying to say, it just blows my mind.
Speaker 5:Well, there's a lot that gets involved in this, obviously, and I think what your question was to begin with was like how important, how important is it? And obviously it shows that it is important to us because of how much we put into it. So, of course, it's not just masks. Performance is very powerful. Everything we have and leave behind us has to be memorable. So I mean the narratives within the songs, the songs that they come on the album, the merchandise, the look, the performance, how we interact with people. I think it's very important because I mean, how do you, how else do you remember a musician unless he has all those things?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's very important to us, especially on the musical aspect. When you guys are on stage, you guys are all in sync. You know, performing People don't really get that People in the audience. They see bands performing, but a lot goes into that, especially when there's five members, let alone one or three. There's five of you guys.
Speaker 5:They're getting the end result, so I guess they don't really take in consideration, unless they're musicians themselves, right? I guess that is a weird way to put it. I guess I never really looked at it like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean eight years of guitar that cadaver has been playing and you, yeah, I mean eight years of guitar that cadaver has been playing and you, yeah, I mean eight years of guitar that cadaver has been playing and you, yeah, I'm sorry, I forgot your name again.
Speaker 5:Sure, it's dragon dragon.
Speaker 2:Okay, ragon, so how long it was. So what do you play for the?
Speaker 4:band.
Speaker 2:You play good, so you have two guitars. Okay, how long have you been playing guitar for? About six, almost seven years there we go another six years and you play.
Speaker 6:A bass.
Speaker 2:Play bass guitar. How long have you been playing bass for?
Speaker 6:six, five or six months, yeah.
Speaker 2:Are you serious? Five or six really? Really yeah and you're already performing in a band.
Speaker 1:Okay, did you play something before?
Speaker 6:No xylophone.
Speaker 5:He just picked it up. Yeah, he's gotta be one of our most unique members in that sort of way. Okay, he picked. I mean, like, unlike the person who auditioned to be the guitarist and couldn't play guitar, you know, five months under his belt he's already, you know, killing it on that shit. How?
Speaker 2:yeah, dude, that's what's up, yeah.
Speaker 1:See that. That proves my theory what you theory.
Speaker 1:I don't have like a theory, theory, but because we get a lot of musicians on the podcast and All the time, you know, musicians are always like oh yeah, like I play guitar, it's easy, anyone can do it, things like that and I feel that Like I'm not saying that you're predestined, but you're kind of predestined, like, like it comes with you, it's, it's who you are a musician, you know. Like like I can't just grab a bass and play in a band in six months, like it's, it's not with, it's not within me. You know, and and I feel like Musicians or painters or artists, anything like, we're already predestined to do that. Like you're, it's, it's a given talent that you're Born with already and I think, musicians, that that's what you guys have, it's a given talent.
Speaker 6:Look at. If you look at any great artists, it's never a surprise.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:I mean the early exposure. Yeah, I anything a cultured parents, you know, taking you to museums. It's important, right. I agree comes out in the adult life much later.
Speaker 1:So I'm still.
Speaker 4:I still have some hope.
Speaker 1:Maybe, maybe five, six months.
Speaker 5:Yeah that's.
Speaker 1:That's insane, that's cool, very awesome right, that is pretty wild.
Speaker 2:What do you think?
Speaker 6:I'm not a musician. Like I said, I've never picked up anything Uh-huh, but I'm just very committed. I think that's what it is. Yeah, I right a lot.
Speaker 1:I think you are a few months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think if the right ingredients to be something successful, you have to be like what did you just say?
Speaker 6:right now you have your Get to be obsessed just a little bit with the commitment, the commitment you got to be committed to practice and the work you put in right.
Speaker 2:You have to be committed to whatever you you choose to do.
Speaker 1:Do you pick up things quickly, though Are there other things?
Speaker 6:It's just common sense to me. If you put in the time, it'll come out, you'll be better the next week. You know months, years, little little show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, take an inventory of where you're finding mistakes. You know what, what you're doing wrong and then correcting those and keep going on and on To that. But I think that can be taken into anything right performing, right to be honest with you.
Speaker 6:There's no excuse for musicians or any artist, youtube, the Google there's always some something now right. You can always find. If you're on the subway you can look up, you know, a biography on Beethoven or something, and yeah. I can relate to someone like that.
Speaker 4:We all do it in the music.
Speaker 6:Yeah, look at paintings and stuff and you can always surround yourself with our. There's no excuse.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you can like. I said the commitment, yeah are you really an artist?
Speaker 6:Yeah, what kind of things do you do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what does an artist do? Right, think about what an artist does and then just do those things and give your own twist on, breathe it exactly.
Speaker 6:There's no separation between the personal life and the art.
Speaker 2:It's all together got to be obsessed with it, just a little bit right, it's part of your life.
Speaker 5:I mean, usually that's the whole definition of the starving artist. I mean they have no other way of doing it, that's true. Hmm.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 6:And when you're with great people like this too, it's hard not to be committed. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, surrounding yourself months.
Speaker 6:I, I learned more right Then. I ever have in any other group or you know, like school or family, this, this is, as far as I'm concerned, my family. Yeah that's why I said the so five months to me flew by like that because it was just putting we're doing shows all the time, rehearsing a lot, so it's just like I picked it up because I had to, to be honest, out of necessity. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:Probably not even just a sesame like the the encouragement to be around it.
Speaker 6:That's what I wanted to do. It Like I.
Speaker 1:I was really proud to did you know them before you started, like Yours, to join this band or just kind of?
Speaker 6:Know, like I said, I'm not a musician. I don't know anything. Yeah, I did paintings as a kid, but Really know nothing music yeah is there anything in painting that you can Compare to being a musician? I'm not a painter either. As a kid, like I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out my. My experience is what maybe led me this point? Uh-huh, maybe later I'll find out. Right now I can't really answer that.
Speaker 1:Okay oh, that's interesting, that's cool.
Speaker 2:It's a real deal dude.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:What's, what's your guys's dynamic with each other?
Speaker 3:I Think things flow pretty well. Yeah, I would like to say they're all pretty comfortable with each other. I Usually get along, haven't had any arguments.
Speaker 5:Well, you and I have.
Speaker 3:We're brothers, but Everyone else you know, we show for rehearsal, we rehearse, everything goes smoothly and Get ready for shows. Things go smoothly. I think our dynamic is pretty, pretty solid in my opinion.
Speaker 5:It's good because it's. I think it's a good point that you know we can depend on each other. You don't have to worry about whether or not we're gonna come to rehearsal, like it's just it's a given that's gonna happen. It's a given we're gonna make the show. It's a given we're gonna have a good performance, like there's no doubts about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like how, so hate all you play percussion, right? Yeah, that is so cool because, like it, so it's. Is it you too kind of like who? So who's who's writing? Who's writing the music? Is it all together? Is it you too Like, how does that work?
Speaker 5:Well, I mean, we, we Just the beginning. We were writing the music. I think, as of recently, because we're working on something new Hato has been really driving at home himself, not only by himself, but he's really been, you know, cranking out the tunes and they're, they're fucking fantastic.
Speaker 5:Yeah he's got more of a drive in this one, not to say he didn't have motivation before, but he's got more of the I Guess, the initiative to head this one on and get there some of the last ones, and it's really gonna fucking kill. So I guess the answer the question we both do, but as of right now, hayden has been the main one. How is?
Speaker 2:metal music written Like that. That's a great, that's a, because there's a lot going on In a song like what, how does that happen? Tell me, do you have a process of this? That, by the way, this has is. Is this the first metal band we've had on the podcast? Yeah, I think so. We've had a psychabilly band, we've had a punk band, post punk DJs, but I don't think.
Speaker 5:I asked one to first max.
Speaker 6:Yeah, true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's on the genre of came after fun and it's just. There's a lot to unravel on that subject. I'm still confused on what post.
Speaker 6:Punk is there are rules and metal and punk I mean. Obviously, when you hear something, it makes you say that's punk or metal, right right. So obviously there are some elements that are kind of of course pretty much consistent with the, with the genre, all types of, all types of.
Speaker 5:Gatekeeping along that.
Speaker 6:What is our arbitrary right and they're useless because Usually the bands that create those sort of significance or genres you know you don't abide by those rules. They start they made the rules they made everyone else as a follower at that point, after that, after that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's sorry, you run a roll. Wow, that was a no, that was a good. Uh, that was a good path, though. Yeah, how's, how's your guys music like what's the process and making you know, something like that, you know a lot of it kind of just comes out of nowhere. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I will Rip off on a guitar. I can't play a little bit of guitar as well. Right, I'll Fiddle around with something, and if something Comes to me that I like, then. I'll record it and then possibly try to build up from there, and if I get stuck, I'll probably, you know, sit for a few days and think about it. Or now, since I have some talented musicians and I can refer to one of them like, hey, what do you think?
Speaker 3:right well, we'll fit this part good in your opinion, and They'll put through two cents in and then from there, kind of just like a snowball effect really besides drums, do you play any other instrument? I play a little bit of guitar and bass and a bit of piano.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, um, that always helps. Yeah piano always helps, then, because if you have a melody in your head, you can just play a little riff on On the keys, move octaves if you need to, and then just, uh, yeah, tell your bassist or tell a guitar, you know, just do something like this and then from there it's no balls, right? Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's so cool, because I mean your percussion. And then Do you also like write the lyrics of the music, or he?
Speaker 3:does all the yeah lyrics.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's right, I think it's. The one thing I do solely is lyrics.
Speaker 2:Okay right.
Speaker 5:You'll even add either idea or your own harmony.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, there you go as your harmony right there, right.
Speaker 5:Invoke was, have been kind of hard, because we first started I was doing a vocal fry and Since I don't really know how to do it, it just fucked up my throat a whole lot more. So now lately I've been just singing, so that might be the route we're going in. The next one is just what's vocal fry. It's got. I wouldn't even know how to explain it, since I'm so bad at it. It's like I've ever cleared your throat, uh-huh, okay, like, imagine that sound, but like continuously.
Speaker 1:That's a good way.
Speaker 2:So is that this album is is most of most of that vocal fry, if not Entirely.
Speaker 5:And what was the?
Speaker 2:cover called.
Speaker 5:What's the album called?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, the cover on that.
Speaker 5:I'm sorry, I'm, I'm doing, I'm jumping. The cover was called luck and love. Luck and love, yeah, which isn't on that one, but you know it was a single that came out. I like I like the.
Speaker 2:I like the cover.
Speaker 5:Oh good.
Speaker 2:Okay, Good yeah so is that so for the new project that you guys are working on? Is it more singing like that, or or in?
Speaker 3:a way yeah way yeah. One, a lot more melodic parts and this new album Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Like heavy this video is really cool.
Speaker 3:Oh good.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, before I think a few weeks ago, I watched, like I watched a lot of it Before on that.
Speaker 5:So what else is on there?
Speaker 2:Scroll down there, there's your performance. You guys right now. You guys right now first music video.
Speaker 3:We're in a garage our very first one ever.
Speaker 2:Who direct this? Who who directed this? Quentin Tarantino?
Speaker 5:yep, it's exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah there's everything. Everything Looks amazing. Thank you, what is that?
Speaker 5:one good living room sessions right, so that we did a collaboration with the last magna they do. His name is Julian, he does a lot of living room sessions and he works with its butter and a world, world war, and he let us do this show just before he entered it, basically, oh, it's literally living room sessions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 5:It tastes the vocal fry.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty cool.
Speaker 5:Yeah, actually you guys use that one. You tagged it in the story today.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah that was it.
Speaker 5:I fucking hate that recording.
Speaker 2:Oh, really, was there more on on IG. Oh, what do you mean? Like it is there more because I tagged that song right. Is there more?
Speaker 5:That whole album, the whole album that one was on yeah, so the one that you didn't like, I chose. Yep, it's alright, though People do it course often. That's okay. Yeah, yeah, cuz it pops up. I think it's the first one up. Yeah, I think that's why it should yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're at a little girls birthday party. I didn't want to like blast it, so I was just I played a little bit in my ear and then I chose. I was like ah, this one sounds okay.
Speaker 1:What's, um? What's your guys's goal as a band? Like where, where do you want You're a band to go? What, what, what are like goals that you're trying to hit, or are you just solely doing it for the music?
Speaker 3:Well, we are doing it for the music, but we kind of just want to reach out to people and kind of help people with our music. I think nothing is better than having someone put on your music to feel better or To get something out of it to learn something. Maybe possibly even be inspired to pick up an instrument or just to do something that they want to do. I think pushing people and inspiring and helping people would be at least my goal personally for this band.
Speaker 4:Nice right.
Speaker 5:I mean just to add on to that. I mean I think At the end of it I hope to continue this band till death. I mean it should be an ongoing ensemble project that should go on forever. I think it's just making the music we like to listen to and hopefully find an audience who likes to listen to it as well. I think that's the goal. A hundred percent of the way. It hasn't changed at all. It won't falter. I don't think. And I think the one who has like the biggest goals in this band I think it's Rogan over here.
Speaker 2:And what are those? Rogan put the microphone here.
Speaker 4:I would say just Just Musical success and artistic success. I really just strive to have sufficiency, maybe just solely relying on my artistic abilities. Yeah because I Guess I was someone personally doesn't feel like they have Many more strong attributes. So music is something I take seriously and feel. I'm confident in doing well.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Very nice cadaver. What about you? See I didn't forget it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, musical success and Hopefully grow pretty big fan base.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what a bass, sir.
Speaker 6:Well, I want us to be the greatest band in the world. Hell yeah, I'm gonna do everything in my power to do that. Yeah, levels a hundred percent.
Speaker 2:I think with the drive you guys have, I can be a possibility. Especially something outlast everyone especially something so different to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how do you, how do you even like, how do you even begin to start to get there? Like, like, like. Is there a blueprint, I mean, is there a band that you, you know, kind of do like, what do you call it? Go like the model behavior, like, like, how, how? Model success model success like how do, how do you guys even, how do you even start to get there right, like what, what, what fuels you? Or what do you guys read books, you like, what like.
Speaker 3:Explain to us how well, I really wish we knew, but as of right now, we're kind of just kind of doing monkey. See monkey, do so yeah. With bands that we love. We kind of do. They, we've, they've done, obviously using today's trends to our advantage to talk, instagram, youtube, all that. Try to use it to our advantage. And, like you said, books we read books, obviously. Youtube at the internet, google things, all kinds of things. Does everything mix together or try to do what we can? Yeah.
Speaker 5:It's really hard to like pick somebody to base your you know, follow their steps and base your career off of, because everything is completely different.
Speaker 6:The internet is we're different to talk.
Speaker 5:Instagram and social media has changed the game right a lot and it's you know the industry is not what it was even Five years ago right, and even though we're in the generation of tick-tock and all that shit, I mean like we still look pretty novice and understanding how to use it properly. The blueprints are still being made how to use it properly.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah. Fortunately, we have to look after, you know, 12 year old streamers as our model, because Making millions, I mean yeah, let's be honest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I guess the more you learn about it, then it changes.
Speaker 6:Yeah, right, it's all about accessibility. Yeah, you just have to be as accessible as possible.
Speaker 2:I think that's.
Speaker 6:That's the way to go nowadays and today's climate.
Speaker 2:Right. I wonder if there's gonna be another app like tick-tock.
Speaker 6:Well, we never saw that coming, did we know?
Speaker 5:no, I didn't did you know, I mean, did we think anything was gonna come after vine?
Speaker 2:Oh, that's true for apps. Dude vine was I think about vine all the time.
Speaker 6:It's almost like they're testing, you see, how low their threshold for for focus and attention is pretty fucking low.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's gonna get smaller and smaller five seconds was too short.
Speaker 1:Tick-tock, fucking fried my brain.
Speaker 6:Yeah, like my brain, the more you do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my my attention span is like.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't hold it because, when you're on tick-tock you get to see so many things and such a short Amount of time, three year old, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2:That is crazy.
Speaker 1:It's, it's crazy, it's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm as fine, though there's a flip side to that too.
Speaker 6:I mean it's made so many people who normally wouldn't get a chance at you know Stardom, I guess they're. They're given that chance now because, like I said, it's just a wild, wild west out there. It's anyone's game now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I guess for the music industry it kind of changed the music industry too.
Speaker 6:Yeah, just like you're saying, the street is looking at the streets and you know they're looking for what's hip in a different way than they used to. There's no more really like Agents looking out. There's no scouts, right. They come. They come to you. They expect you to have the full package already.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they didn't change the dial. They said what social media did was they didn't change the dial. They said fuck the dial and they made a completely new one and Went by their own roles. That's what social media did, especially for the Entertainment industry in general. Exactly it really did for like a moment.
Speaker 5:Now that people have capitalized on it now. True, now everyone has the answers to social media and how to run it. Now nobody knows how to use it now.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's true, yeah because when I first came out of the pandemic it was like anybody, not anybody, but it was kind of like a lottery system, like it was like you didn't know what video was going to go viral and what video was going to pick up. And now there's like some kind of formula that they're formatting in, like post three times a day, do this, do that. It has to come in through your feet and then it's just yeah, I totally.
Speaker 2:Weren't you looking up how a TikToker makes their money on TikToker and how weird it was? Do you remember that?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What was it? There's been a few videos that have been circulating that people are doing like finance transparency they're calling it and so these TikTokers are being transparent on like how much money they're making a month off of their TikTok. And then one of the girls was explaining like, like, even though you get a million views or 20 million views, if someone goes and like, searches your video, like so, like, let's say, like this one, right, we put it on and it goes viral. And then people are like, oh, did you hear about, you know that video? And then you go and you search it, those searched videos, even though they watched it, you can't monetize on those. So you can only monetize on videos that come up in your feed organically, like things like that you know. So now they're putting a lot of like things on monetizing and I think it's because so many people have been monetizing that.
Speaker 2:now they're like holy shit. They're like, oh damn, we're losing money. Yeah, let's put some rules now.
Speaker 1:It's crazy.
Speaker 2:It is crazy yeah.
Speaker 5:It makes you wonder whether or not you'll, as someone like us, someone in the you know, in the scraps of everyday life, will ever get the advantage to understand how to use it properly and to beat that sort of like I wouldn't say capitalistic approach, but like, yeah, just unbeatable game that's played on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree, but I feel like there's something new that's gonna come. I just I don't know. Maybe I'm just weird.
Speaker 6:It's like an ebb and flow, right yeah.
Speaker 2:I feel like something's gonna change.
Speaker 6:It's like a counterculture right now. Yeah, everyone's kind of I don't know crazy.
Speaker 1:Do you guys think, like kind of going back on what you were saying, like like there's not really like agents anymore, right, Like really scouting you like at a bar or anything like that, like they come to you and they want-?
Speaker 6:The problem is is that I think society's kind of musiced out. Yeah, we've kind of had too much music. I think we're starting to get into who would have thought our grandmas would be politic, like into politics. Like that is unheard of. Right Like now, because of social media, we can kind of choose what we want to get into. We can't be told, music isn't pushed onto you anymore, you can kind of decide whether you want to have.
Speaker 6:That's what genres are kind of so like Spotify has made it to where, like, you can have your own radio. You can pick a playlist that there's no real like BBC there's no, you know, it's just it's not there anymore. It's so different now, Right, and there's actually like there's too much at that point. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5:We're so musicked out in so many different ways Like, yeah, are there so many genres, like you were saying before, like there's so many genres, it's hard to even come track of what is what.
Speaker 6:From the musical standpoint of the production of today, it's very dry and there's a standard now that producers kind of have to live up to because of you know, compression and stuff and loudness and it's making the quality sonically of music very dry and almost it's not what it was in the 70s and in the 60s. You know it's starting to get a little more too rigid and it's just. You know, the music suffers and the artists suffer because everything sounds the same.
Speaker 1:That's true. So with that like how another point that you made was like now you know they want you to have the full package right, so now that? So here's my question Because things are accessible, like recording right, like now you can record your own albums and you can, you know, clean it up everything, make it sound good, put it out onto Spotify, you can record your own videos, you can pretty much self-produce your entire production, right? Do you think that, in a way, it's good that you can self-produce, or do you think that it's also it takes away from you guys, musically, just to be able to play music, like, because I can only imagine everything that entails, you know, like the artwork, putting together the music, writing the music, putting your guys things out on social media, booking yourself for sure, Like it's just a never-ending thing of things that you have to do. Do you think that it's like good that you guys are pretty much your own managers, or is it something that, like, it's kind of hard?
Speaker 5:I think there's pros and cons to it. I think what you were saying before, like how there's no agents, or like managers because I mean, to be honest, you can almost do it yourself, figure it out the way and do it yourself. You know you don't need them.
Speaker 6:Yeah, you don't need as big as a team as you used to. I think I think with two or three good people behind you and you know they're committed to what you're doing you can get a lot done.
Speaker 5:Right, and that's the pro of it. But the con of it would be like all the time you'd have to make music and have somebody else represent you is gone now because you're doing all your work from the ground up, from scratch.
Speaker 6:I've seen certain hip-hop artists. They have maybe one or two managers at the most and maybe like friends, helping them out with whatever they can. It's not even strict as to what your role is. You have your, you know your blunt roller, you got your water guy and then you got your manager.
Speaker 2:So I need a blunt roller in the studio, so if anybody's looking for a job, email me.
Speaker 5:Darby would be good at that.
Speaker 2:So Darby will be. He's good at everything. So how did you guys wear and how did you guys record this? Is this your guys' first album? Do you have singles out. It's your third Technically.
Speaker 3:First ever piece of music that we released is called Tolten the Lady, which is basically just a bunch of ambient songs. So no vocals, no drums, guitar, it's just synth, something you put on just to just go somewhere else.
Speaker 2:You get and where? Where can I find that?
Speaker 3:That's on Spotify YouTube.
Speaker 5:Apple Music, what is it called?
Speaker 3:It's called Tolten the Lady. Yeah, it's kind of got that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's on Tolten the Lady.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but then we were.
Speaker 2:What letter does it start with? On Spotify, okay.
Speaker 3:His face in front of like a bush yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, and you said it has like synth noises.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, it's a very atmospheric sort of ambiance sort of album Interesting. It was thrown out during the pandemic, so yeah the time we had and then also we finished that one Right.
Speaker 3:Well then we have our self title, which we did at home by ourselves.
Speaker 4:Just us Right.
Speaker 3:And then we released that one also, just us at home. And then hopefully, with this next one, we're working with somebody to make it sound a lot better than at home, at home, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, Jim. I mean just to piggyback on what Amber said about the album artwork getting somebody to do your album artwork, producing your music, writing, music, performing, recording it takes a lot and I don't think that a lot of people really understand that unless they're musicians or artists themselves, right and.
Speaker 5:Well, let me ask you, since you brought that up like the second time you brought that up do you think they kind of put the damper on how people see typical modern musicians today? They like makes them like, brush them off, as if they don't only give a shit.
Speaker 2:Like what do you mean?
Speaker 5:Well, I mean like because you've brought up how like there's so much effort that goes involved people wouldn't, really understand it. And maybe that puts like they don't really care enough to hear you out as a musician because they don't know what goes into it.
Speaker 2:No, I think Well, kind of I don't know, like maybe if I didn't do a podcast right and I didn't interview musicians I am, if I like the music, then I would invest in my time in the music, no matter what genre it is, because I listen to different types of music.
Speaker 5:Right, right.
Speaker 2:I think, if I, if I do like it and I like the musicians as people, or even it's not even just musicians in general, right, amber and I were at a conference with chefs. Amber and I are not chefs. We were in the food business, but we're not chefs.
Speaker 1:I self-proclaimed.
Speaker 2:Amber's a self-proclaimed chef. So there was there was a panel right and two of the panel members were our friends and there was two chefs on the other side of our friends and there was one which was a very interesting guy and the other was asked. He was, you know, interesting to, but not as interesting as the guy in the middle. I solely wanted to go to his restaurant because his personality and the way he was giving stories and telling stories was amazing. It was, there were great and I think if you really see a musician or talk to a musician and you really like their attitude and the personality, you're going to go listen to the music. So I think just personality has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 5:And I hope the band has enough of it yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:You could say the same thing for like live shows. If you go to a live show and see a band that you really like, you see a good performance, maybe the singer saying something that you like, yeah. And like that drives you to dive more into that band, like, oh, what kind of music do they have? Okay, are they? So much like it makes you more invested in it. Um, but yeah, no, I yeah Everything okay, over there he's going to go take a shoot.
Speaker 4:I'm thank you for having me here. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Okay, oh.
Speaker 4:I thought you were thinking it should be All right. Oh no, I got a leak. Okay.
Speaker 2:Are you going to get out of here?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:No, okay, should we? Should we end it now? Yeah, we're an hour, yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you are All right Cool. Um we're just all fucking leaving.
Speaker 2:Hold on Wait wait, wait, wait, wait. This is getting crazy.
Speaker 5:But it hit the stage. We have no idea what it means to be in a podcast.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, uh, thanks. Thanks for being here. Appreciate it. Hi brooder, tell us where we can find you and what you guys have coming up, please.
Speaker 5:So on Instagram, you can follow us at hater brood, on YouTube and iTunes and Apple music all at hater brood H A, y, d, l, b R U D E R. And we have a gig in March 9th. We're in Riverside at some Orange Street house, and then March 3 9th we're at the Dole Hut in Fullerton and or Anaheim. We have the flyer somewhere up there. Follow us on Tik Tok. We've got a great Tik Tok Um and uh. That's it, man. Follow us, do the thing, give us a chance, book us. That's all Cool.
Speaker 2:Sweet Um. And then let's go to for the last couple of minutes. Let's go to the chat. Remember we do our podcast live. Jay the loner is knocked loose metal core. You guys know that Isn't that a movie.
Speaker 3:No it's a footloose. Yeah, I think I would think so.
Speaker 2:Um and then bold as lion says Jesus is king, All right. I don't know what that means, but um, let me get the door Keep going.
Speaker 4:All right guys. Thank you, they're okay.
Speaker 5:I had no idea what the fuck happened. I'm sure they're fine. They're fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they should their pants or something.
Speaker 5:I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2:They're good. Did they drive together or?
Speaker 3:No no.
Speaker 5:We'll have a quick meeting.
Speaker 2:That was cool. That's a first.
Speaker 5:No shit, I don't know. That's a good start with the chemistry.
Speaker 1:So how's the dynamic in here?
Speaker 5:It goes really well.
Speaker 1:We're just kidding the horizon. Follow my best. This is the best God damn. Thank you, thank you.