MB:194 with Fabian Grave

Fabian Grave is founder of Papa Rhino Michelada and Papa Rhino Productions. Fabian is also the manager of several bands like Calavera and Dogma Mundista. Fabian Grave is the front man for the band Straight from the Grave.

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Welcome aboard a multilayered journey into the captivating world of music with our esteemed guest, Fabian Grave. This dynamic entrepreneur, frontman of Straight From The Grave, and manager for Calavera, Psychobilly offers an insider’s glimpse into the vibrant music scene. Brace yourselves as Amber shares the inside scoop on La Rosa Nior's latest album, Bad Hombres' new single, and the excitement around upcoming free shows like the Granada Hills Street Fair and Maria Sanchez performing at Shadow Grove Brewing.

Fabian opens the vault on his personal musical chronicles; from the roadblocks he encountered while learning bass to his evolution as a band frontman. He reflects on the genesis of Straight from the Grave, the intriguing art of learning music by ear, and his self-taught journey to read music tabs. Discover his uncanny trick of adding frets to his bass that turbo-charges his music writing process. All while offering a glimpse into the music scene in Fullerton and his encounters with bands like Asesino and Brujería.

Finally, our guest navigates us through his entrepreneurial voyage. From his early days in the music scene, event organization, to the expansion of his business. Fabian serves up nuggets of wisdom on staying motivated and organized in the music industry, emphasizing the significance of a solid reputation. Experience his humorous take as he assimilates his show experiences with Dave Chappelle's 'Whack Arnold's' fast food restaurant skit. So, plug in your headphones and join us for an unforgettable blend of music, insights, and laughter!

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"King without a Throne" is performed by Bad Hombres

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:04

It like squirted. Ok, play the music. What is up? Mind buzz universe? I'm still going to. I'm going to keep doing it because that's you. It's the process of branding what's up everybody, welcome back to the mind buzz podcast, where we talk to interesting people, just like you. I don't have my notes in front of me, so I'm just going to go off the top of my head. The mind buzz podcast is part of the my grito podcast network and now it's amber with a my grito weekly.

Speaker 2 0:54

Yeah, as a reminder.

Speaker 3 0:57

La.

Speaker 2 0:57

Rosa Nor's new album are, you know, is out now on all streaming platforms, so go check that out. Also recently out is bad hombres recent single called el catrin, which is what we're playing right now. So if you like what you hear, go and go listen to it again, and again and again. Make sure to add this song to your favorite music playlist. Also, the paranoias are playing a free show this Saturday at the Granada Hills Street Fair. Yeah, so go do that.

Speaker 1 1:30

Wait, is that the free event?

Speaker 2 1:32

Yeah, that's free show. Okay, that one's free to my budget. I think it's in all of our budgets right now. Also, maria Sanchez will be performing this Saturday as well, and she's going to be at shadow Grove brewing. Where is shadow Grove?

Speaker 1 1:48

brewing? I don't know. I think it's in it.

Speaker 2 1:50

Yeah, we'll look it up in a bit. But yeah, it's another free show, so go out there and check it out. And, just for more details, go and follow those artists. We'll have them linked down in our show description.

Speaker 1 2:03

And then also the mind buzz has our event, which is October 26th. That's the open mic in the city of Paramount music, poetry and comedy. The sign up roster is still open. So if you want to participate, just go to mind buzzorg to sign up. But if you just want to go out and hang out and bring family and all that good stuff on the 26th in the city of Paramount, come on by. Amber's going to be in a costume. Do you know what you're going to be yet?

Speaker 2 2:36

I don't, no, but it's a surprise.

Speaker 1 2:39

So if you want to find out, come out. But yeah, all that is going to be in the show description. Go to mind buzzorg for more. And let's see what else do we got. Oh, OK, so press releases for this week Copy and still podcast on YouTube. Watch me nerd out on all new podcasting equipment, podcasting software. Also, if you want to hear some insights, go to I am being seriously Taro. The podcast episode is clash of the pods, the roast of the mind buzz, and then also, which just came out on Monday, this week came out. This week I was on the emo brown podcast, also part of the my great podcast network. Amber and I did a nice little drive to Chula Vista to go hang out with our friend emo Brown. So go ahead and check it out. All the links are going to be down in the show description. If you're watching on YouTube, please subscribe. If you're listening to Spotify, go ahead and follow us and leave us a review. It's easy and free. So what else do we got? That's it right. I covered everything.

Speaker 2 4:00

Yep, you got it.

Speaker 1 4:01

Perfect. Okay. Without wasting any more time, let's get into today's guest, fabian Grave. He is a entrepreneur and then also front man of straight from the grave. What's up, buddy? Thanks for being out here.

Speaker 3 4:18

Thanks for being here, brother, yeah of course, man how you been Good, just working hard, like always. You know, staying busy, that's a way to keep the head clear and healthy, right.

Speaker 1 4:29

Yeah, dude, so you have a Michiela, the brand which we're going to taste right now, in a few minutes, okay, and then also your band, straight from the grave.

Speaker 2 4:41

So, put shows together, right?

Speaker 1 4:43

Yes, oh, and your production company? Can you pull that up, amber, so we can go ahead and take a look at all the cool shit that Fabian is doing nowadays.

Speaker 2 4:55

Yep, so lead vocalist from straight from the grave your manager right Calavera Psycho Billy. Is that the? The?

Speaker 1 5:05

It's got four Calavera.

Speaker 2 5:06

Oh, oh, shoot, Okay, and then bunch of other stuff.

Speaker 1 5:11

Local music organizer I was so excited to hear them coming back. Dude, you have no idea.

Musical Journey and Mexican Funeral Practice

Speaker 3 5:19

Yeah, they've been taking hiatus here and there, and then they reached out to me actually a couple months ago. I wanted to book more shows and soul counsel like that, so I was more than glad to help them out. Yeah, so they're one of my favorite bands of all time. Actually, the reason I started a band like 15 years ago so kind of came full circle, you know.

Speaker 1 5:36

So you started playing 15 years ago.

Speaker 3 5:39

Technically, we started when it was somewhere. 2005 was when we started. We didn't get more serious until 2009. That's when we changed our name to straight from the grave.

Speaker 1 5:47

What was it before?

Speaker 3 5:48

Nocturnal emissions.

Speaker 1 5:52

It was some dirty motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 5:53

So yeah, that is awesome.

Speaker 1 5:54

I'm surprised I stuck around.

Speaker 3 5:57

That name stuck around for like four years.

Speaker 1 6:00

You're surprised, right.

Speaker 3 6:01

Yeah, we had another recorder for that, but you know, it was just mostly us fucking around. How do you?

Speaker 2 6:05

tell your mom like hey, where are you going?

Speaker 3 6:08

I'm going to see a band. And she's like how do you say it Say I'm going to coach you, yeah.

Speaker 1 6:17

That is awesome. I can just see like Spotify now just scrolling through my playlist. When did that get in there? That is awesome, bro. So that so. First it was that band where you also doing frontman work like singing for that band as well.

Speaker 3 6:35

Yeah, actually I started off as a singing first originally, and then we kept losing bass players. I'm like, well, fuck it, I'll do it. You know, I picked up the bass around 2008, 2008.

Speaker 1 6:45

Okay, so you didn't previously play any instruments before then, or was that your first?

Speaker 3 6:51

That was my first one. I just like, just looked up YouTube videos and taught myself I can't read music, for shit.

Speaker 1 6:56

but tabs right.

Speaker 3 6:58

Basically, tabs are my fucking saving grace, you know. So to this day I still just do tabs.

Speaker 1 7:03

So yeah, I mean, you don't really. I don't think you really need to know how to, unless you're going to be in, like the orchestra or some shit orchestra or you're a studio musician, because some studios have their own musicians that they call on for or for, like a hired gun or something.

Speaker 3 7:22

You got to know your shit. You know in and out.

Speaker 1 7:23

Yeah, exactly For something like that. But I think, just, I don't think you need to know how to play music necessarily, like read music, right?

Speaker 2 7:34

I never learned, you never learned. No, my mom put me my mom was going to school and she put me to do like clarinet at school because it was the only thing that would take me at like 6.30 in the morning and I never learned. I just by ear what I listened to and I mimicked it.

Speaker 3 7:51

So you're pretty good.

Speaker 2 7:52

But I said I don't know shit now. Or a four clarinet, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 7:57

It's so cool, at least with music, when you well, I'm a nerd because I know I kind of remember how to read music. It's so. The reason why I liked it so much is because for certain instruments, you can use the same type of sheet music but just changing the octaves, like or kind of like if you learn piano, you kind of could learn it, basically an instrument.

Speaker 1 8:21

From what I've heard, yeah, Right, like with clarinet, if you turn it over and read the music backwards, you could play it with a brass instrument like a trumpet or something like that.

Speaker 3 8:36

Or like a sax or something.

Speaker 1 8:37

Right, so maybe it would be the clarinet part, but you're playing it on like a brass instrument. It's very complicated. It is pretty interesting. It's just like numbers, you know, like number of magic, if you add certain ones and all these different orders. It's like geometry, but music and numbers yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, I sucked that math too.

Speaker 2 9:06

I feel like from like interviewing like musicians and just getting to know people, like with knowing one instrument yeah, musicians tend to know multiple instruments. Or if you can sing, you can play an instrument like. I wonder what in your guys's brain is wired to pick up, be able to pick up like instruments? Can you play another instrument?

Speaker 3 9:32

No, just pretty much the bass. I mean, I could fuck around with the acoustic guitar, but it's Not too often.

Speaker 2 9:38

See, I can't say I can fuck around with you, can play the guitar, because I can't just pick it up if it's something up if, straight from the grave, ever needs a tambourine player.

Speaker 3 9:51

Amber is awesome On the tambourine also needs a skin flute player as well.

Speaker 1 9:59

Oh, that is awesome.

Speaker 2 10:18

No, I've never heard of that. I Never had.

Speaker 1 10:22

Richie said that too.

Speaker 3 10:24

He probably got it from me.

Speaker 1 10:25

He probably did. He said that when the Zombillies were on. He mentioned it. He was saying something. I think he was talking about one of the guys. He was like oh yeah, you play skin flute pretty good too.

Speaker 3 10:41

Oh, I did see that. Yeah, I did watch that. Yeah, that was pretty funny.

Speaker 1 10:44

That was freaking awesome, but you've been playing music for a very long 15 years, dude.

Speaker 3 10:49

Yeah, that was crazy. It doesn't really feel like that long. You know when you love what you're doing. It's not really like you don't sit there and count, you know.

Speaker 1 10:56

Yeah.

Speaker 3 10:57

It's almost like a relationship a good relationship, but then there's bad ones too, you know.

Speaker 1 11:01

Yeah.

Speaker 3 11:02

So, for example, like I've been with my girl for how long, almost 20 years. It feels like it's been like maybe 10 years, you know.

Speaker 1 11:10

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 11:10

The same thing with the band, like it's on papers, it seems like it's a lot, but it feels like it's been like five, six years yeah.

Speaker 2 11:18

Yeah, it flies by.

Speaker 3 11:19

It does, especially when you're having a good time and being productive.

Speaker 1 11:23

Yeah, so tell me about your the music portion. So the first time that we seen you guys was in TJ. Tj bro, what do you wanna Maniac?

Speaker 3 11:37

Yeah, that was fucking awesome. You guys enjoyed yourselves, we did. It was a good show, huh.

Speaker 1 11:42

It was fucking awesome bro.

Speaker 3 11:43

It was like my first time there since I was like a teenager so I just had a blast. It was actually like it reminded me kind of like downtown Fullerton, the whole vibe. You know, it wasn't like. You know, people say this, people say that it's like oh you're gonna get fucking murdered in every corner and it's like I didn't get murdered in that ones.

Speaker 2 11:59

Not it, not it. Right, we booked like the closest hotel that we could so that we could just walk like two minutes, because I was the one that was like I don't know about this. And I have family in Tijuana and I'm still scared.

Speaker 3 12:12

Do you go like a lot?

Speaker 2 12:14

Not to Tijuana. To Ensenada, yes, but Tijuana not very much. But yeah, I didn't feel scared or anything like that, which is good.

Speaker 1 12:24

It was awesome. We hit two birds with one stone with that trip, because it was a Tijuana maniac and then, unfortunately, we had one of Amber's family members pass in TJ, I should yeah.

Speaker 3 12:37

Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 12:38

Yeah, it was crazy. It was a weird experience. I've never been to a Mexican funeral before and it was like the day after. That's so crazy how they do it.

Speaker 3 12:48

It just happens like really quick. Yeah, they don't mess around. There's like next day, maybe two days tops.

Speaker 1 12:52

Here's a week right.

Speaker 2 12:54

Yeah, cause they don't embalm over there. So here they do them bombing and over there they don't. So things need to move quickly before you start.

Speaker 1 13:03

Yeah, and they had the casket open at the burial site too. I've never seen that before.

Speaker 3 13:09

As well, oh, you've never seen that Before they dropped it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 13:11

Yeah, no, Because over here they lower the body. Yeah, inside the church or whatever. Oh, that makes sense, and then they lock it up and will them out.

Speaker 2 13:25

No, they still let you go and see them there play music, everything. So it was kind of like a party or yeah.

Speaker 1 13:32

Yeah, there was a. What was the little fried cricket things.

Speaker 2 13:36

Oh, the chapeleon.

Speaker 1 13:37

Chappaleon, oh, so delicious. That's all you got from my uncles, you know. I had some chilean mine was a ripon Never tried those.

Speaker 3 13:46

Which ones? The chilean con limon ones.

Speaker 2 13:48

I think that's what those were.

Speaker 3 13:50

Oh, they're delicious. Yeah, they're like I think they're sun dried or toasted or something. Yeah, they're good yeah.

Speaker 2 13:56

The man was selling them at the cemetery, so you know he probably gathered them there too. You made a killing there. It was like a carnival dude there was like carnival snacks everywhere.

Speaker 1 14:05

Like some lady popcorn, exactly esquites, it was crazy.

Speaker 2 14:10

You're all burying someone and they're like oh yeah, it's like Que compranche charradas.

Speaker 1 14:14

C, c. Yeah, but that's what I got from over there, but all in all, it was a great show. That was the first time I seen a big band like Demantra that I go before and I've been a fan for over 15 plus years, and it was awesome. Honestly, I never thought that I was gonna ever see them, just ever, ever. I just had that in my mind until this year.

Speaker 3 14:42

Yeah, they haven't played Stateside since like 2005,. I think it's just about.

Speaker 1 14:47

Did you ever see them in the United States?

Speaker 3 14:51

No, we bought tickets in 2005, actually when we were still going out, and then that's when they canceled that whole tour, when Sparky got in trouble back in the day. So I guess instead he hasn't been able to come over to the Stateside. And then I wanna say, maybe six months before that they played at Dothud of all places, because one of their shows was canceled. They just moved the whole gig to Dothud but it was so packed you couldn't really get in there. You know, it was like people spilling out the doors.

Speaker 1 15:17

And it's a pretty. Is that a pretty small sized venue? I've never been there. Yeah, it's small.

Speaker 3 15:23

Like they could like extend the parking lots to have for the bigger events, cause I booked there a lot. I was doing a lot of shows there for the last party three, four years, especially during the pandemic. You know people were staying indoors, I was putting in work, you know.

Speaker 1 15:35

Really yeah, the whole time.

Speaker 3 15:37

I think they closed for like two weeks Were you really oh shit. Tell me about that. There's no shows, basically like nothing was going on. So the turnout's were actually pretty decent, you know, probably like about a hundred usually, really, and then like nothing else to do. People were just looking for something to do. Then I was like doing a cycle of the gig, basically Every month I was doing them Actually every two weeks from like 2019 to like 2022.

Speaker 2 16:03

Every two weeks.

Speaker 3 16:04

Yeah, every two to three weeks.

Speaker 1 16:06

Holy crap, and people would come out. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, not really, because they were. People wanted to come out. They missed going to shows, they missed being around people, right?

Speaker 3 16:19

Yeah, just the whole social, like you know, having a beer at the bar, just talking to people. You've never met people who enjoy music, so it was just kind of like that, yeah, or like a social thing, yeah.

Speaker 1 16:28

Was it more of the psychobiliic subculture that would go out, or was?

Speaker 3 16:33

it just it was actually a mixed bag, I mean, like I would say, a chunk of psychobiliic, but it's always a mixed bag, at least for my shows.

Speaker 1 16:38

Yeah.

Speaker 3 16:39

I'm friends with all kinds of people and like different types of music as well. Yeah, so you get metalheads, punks, you know. You get even like emos and fucking the Quarches and stuff like that the Quarches. But it was cool, it was always a good fun because at the end of the day, like it doesn't matter what subculture you're into, at the end of the day it's the same thing. You end up hanging out with your friends drinking. You know just usually what changes is just the music.

Speaker 1 17:05

Yeah, slightly, though.

Speaker 3 17:06

Slightly. Yeah, even then, like, you share each other's music and you end up liking music you thought you'd never like or whatever get into if you didn't know somebody that taught you that music you know.

Speaker 1 17:16

Yeah, exactly. So at least for me, straight From the Grave has very significant sound, I want to say, because it's yeah, you play psychobili, but it's also like, at least from what I hear, it has some like undertones of metal, right?

Speaker 3 17:36

Yeah, of course. Yeah, for example, like two bands that are big influence on me, the Vocally and also like writing actually writing a lot of 90s hip hop are a big influence on me, like on my writing technique, Really. So it's just like I tell a story, or I tell a story about a certain individual or myself, you know, and most of my songs start out like as a poem, basically like a one paragraph, and then from there I kind of like make a second paragraph and then, you know, I write a chorus to break it up and stuff like that. So yeah, but of metal wise, I'm a big fan of Brujera and Asesino. Those two bands are major influences on me, yeah.

Music Conversations

Speaker 1 18:13

Okay, Can you pull some up? I want to hear them. Mind if we hear some? Yeah. So what's one of your favorite songs for anyone?

Speaker 3 18:22

Let's go with Brujera, actually go with Asesino Regresando Odio, you should be able to find that on YouTube pretty quick.

Speaker 1 18:31

Once a month and that's more like a party. That's you. Why not? I'm sorry, that's not.

Speaker 3 18:35

Asesino.

Speaker 2 18:37

Wow, that's not good. I'm gonna murder that ass yeah.

Speaker 1 18:44

Catch me on the email round podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, Private room. Oh yeah, it looked like the couch. I like the casting couch.

Speaker 2 18:54

They're casting you for a point man.

Speaker 3 18:56

You're ready to go, man? What was? It called Asesino Regresando Odio. Right there, that first one.

Speaker 2 19:04

He just threw me off. He just threw me off, Whoa.

Speaker 1 19:07

Holy crap, okay yeah that's cool.

Speaker 2 19:13

Whoa, we'll cue that. Do you want to put the video?

Speaker 1 19:22

Yeah, it's fine. Oh, Now are these guys? Are they singing in Spanish?

Speaker 3 19:42

Yeah, yeah, the guitars. He's actually the guitarist. Yeah, or he was at one point.

Speaker 1 19:56

So when did you first start listening to these guys, right?

Speaker 3 20:01

around 2005.

Speaker 1 20:03

Oh, so for a pretty long time then.

Speaker 3 20:06

Yeah, I caught them a couple of times when they were playing in, like kind of in downtown Fullerton. They would play what was that bar called it closed. The guy from Atreio and it was like a couple of musicians on that bar, it was in you know that bar right Somewhere in like downtown right. There we go. Yeah, it was open for we had like pretty big shows for a long time and then it didn't survive the pandemic.

Speaker 1 20:32

I saw them there like two or three times and that was a pretty popular bar. I remember back in the day. Yeah, it was always popping.

Speaker 3 20:37

It was Wednesday to be packed. I was just so surprised that it didn't make the pandemic, and I did, you know.

Speaker 1 20:44

It was just around the corner. From the Continental right, the.

Speaker 3 20:47

Continental room. It's that whole area of the downtown so you have to like go through there to the backside of the parking structure or parking lot by the train station. There's a bunch of bars there too.

Speaker 1 20:57

Yeah, because it was the parking structure. And then there's like railroads right there and then you cross that and then there's a bunch of bars and stuff.

Speaker 3 21:06

Yeah, it's like in the middle of this kind of by the spaghetti factory, I believe, or right across from it.

Speaker 1 21:10

That's delicious.

Speaker 3 21:12

I actually went through it and didn't like it no.

Speaker 1 21:14

No, I've never been. I've been to the Cheesecake Factory.

Speaker 3 21:17

I'm bullshitting.

Speaker 1 21:18

ladies and gentlemen, I've actually never been to the Cheesecake Factory?

Speaker 3 21:21

No, I've never been. Do they have cheesecake.

Speaker 1 21:24

You're missing out bro.

Speaker 3 21:26

I've heard it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 21:27

They have like 20 different cheesecakes. They're pretty good.

Speaker 3 21:31

I'm a sucker for cheesecake.

Speaker 1 21:34

Do you have cheesecake, amber? I don't. Can't be talking about cheesecake on the podcast and not delivery, sorry.

Speaker 3 21:41

That was a matter of fear.

Speaker 1 21:45

Uber each one Right. There we go, so Assasino. And then what was the other group?

Speaker 3 21:48

Assasino. The other one is Brujería Brujería. They have a new single. It should pop up right away.

Speaker 1 21:54

So are these guys still playing Assasino?

Speaker 3 21:57

yeah, I'm not very often playing, they're still playing. The one that's playing more right now is Brujería. It's that fourth video, this one yeah, it's a newest one that actually has like a female vocalist on it.

Speaker 2 22:10

It might be loud. Ladies and gentlemen, Warning you before Put your headphones down.

Speaker 1 22:15

Wake up.

Speaker 2 22:18

Oh no, that's good Hello.

Speaker 1 22:44

What is she saying, Amber?

Speaker 2 22:46

She's not scared of anything.

Speaker 1 22:53

You don't speak Spanish. I'm a no-sabo kid, no-sabo, sorry.

Speaker 3 23:06

Yeah, but that's my goal for Strict and Grave to open up for them. That's the only vocalist.

Speaker 1 23:13

I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 23:16

That's cool. Is she always their front person?

Speaker 3 23:20

No, no, she's like featured on this song.

Speaker 2 23:22

Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 23:24

It's like a new album just dropped a couple weeks ago, so they're trying to train on something. Anyway, that's pretty cool. That sounds cool. The male vocalist, juan Brujo, has been the vocalist for like 25 years, damn.

Speaker 1 23:38

It's so wild to me how people are just playing music for that long. It blows my mind.

Speaker 3 23:46

You playing with it.

Speaker 2 23:48

Besides the A fool.

Speaker 1 23:54

Let's see Woodward Instruments, so clarinet, saxophone, tenet, roll, alto Saxophone, a little bit of guitar, a little bit of electric bass and what else.

Speaker 2 24:10

You can play one song with each one.

Speaker 1 24:13

Some drums You're trying to play an upright bass. I tried, but I'm just not that good. I'm not that tall either.

Speaker 3 24:19

You could get a little half size or something.

Speaker 1 24:22

A little half size, put some double stack creepers on.

Speaker 3 24:27

It's just weird because I think because of the frets not being there it throws me off.

Speaker 1 24:32

Dude what I do.

Speaker 3 24:34

I just cheated. I actually added the frets on there myself. What? It's the way it helps me when I'm writing, okay, and I put a couple drops of glow in the dark paint. Oh yeah, when you're in the, it's a show and it's dark, oh my.

Speaker 1 24:51

God, okay, dang, dude.

Speaker 3 24:54

That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 24:56

Just don't tell anybody else, please, oh, of course, Don't tell anybody. Ladies and gentlemen, I just I tried it a handful of times and I think that's what it was.

Speaker 3 25:07

I just tried it a handful of times, I was like yeah, I mean it was cool, but it's just an instrument. I would compare it mostly to dribbling the basketball. You know how it takes you a while to perfectly dribble basketball. It's kind of like the same motion. You know, my hands are kind of taking a crap now, so that's why I'm doing the strictly vocals now. But yeah, it just strains my forearm and my hands.

Speaker 1 25:27

Yeah, a lot of movement with this muscle.

Speaker 3 25:32

It's really sort of great here, Especially if it's been a while since you played the upright bass. It's pretty sore for a day or two?

Speaker 1 25:37

How many different ways are there to play? Because listening to different bass players it sounds like there's triple slapping. There's double slapping. Yeah, a single double triple quadruples. There's quadruple.

Speaker 3 25:52

Yeah, but it's like I'm not very good at those because you gotta drag slap it, it's like a triple slap, but you gotta drag it, dude.

Speaker 2 25:59

Are you like pulling the strings, like the chords? When you do that, it's not just hitting, it's like hitting but pulling.

Speaker 3 26:07

You pull the string and then you bounce like you ricochet it. So that's what makes that slapping, clicking sound. Yeah, that's very sexy.

Speaker 1 26:17

Is it You're like? Hmm, okay, Slap my bitch up. Who would you say your favorite bass player is? That would be.

Speaker 3 26:28

Gus Tombstone from Oscar Tereptico's. Rest in Peace.

Speaker 1 26:33

That's another one that was just like whoa that happened.

Speaker 3 26:38

I don't think he was even 50. He was probably like 45 or something.

Speaker 1 26:41

Yeah, that sucks.

Speaker 3 26:43

And he didn't really. I don't think he really drank or smoked, so it wasn't like none of that Really. Yeah, it was just more of a pandemic. I believe he got corona or something. I just couldn't make it anymore.

Speaker 1 26:55

Damn dude. Yeah, that was crazy. That's another band, too, that I haven't seen before. Now in its entirety, oscar Tereptico's. I'm not going to be able to see the original group.

Speaker 3 27:08

Right, right, I don't think they'll carry on without Gus. I don't think they played since no.

Speaker 1 27:13

But Vlad plays with the drummer. I forget his name, mutant Cox. Yeah, it's Six Exinners, exactly. That's some really good stuff too. He's a really good musician.

Speaker 3 27:25

Yeah, they still play. So they come over here, I think about once a year, every two years or so. Yeah, Czecho books them every couple of years.

Speaker 1 27:32

He does really good shows. He throws a lot of good shows.

Speaker 3 27:36

Yeah, he does. Yeah, I actually learned a lot of stuff from him. I used to do the door for him, like 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 27:40

Really.

Organizing Shows With Multiple Responsibilities

Speaker 3 27:41

When he was booking at OG Mike's in Santana he would book like Guanabats the Quakes and well, it's like Zombie. Gold Strain, like all, like the major psychoblade bands, like 10 to 15 years ago.

Speaker 2 27:53

So how long have you been putting shows together for?

Speaker 3 27:57

I would say a solid five years. But I was doing like backyard shows like about 10 years ago, so like I already kind of knew how to talk to bands and organize stuff like that, make little flyers and then, after the experience I got from doing the door for Czecho helped me out a little bit and I learned even more. I'm always learning, Like I'm never too proud or too cool to not learn something new.

Speaker 1 28:23

Yeah, I think you need to be in that type of frame. My time, yeah, yeah, a frame of mind is to be open, because you're never going to learn something if you're just closed off and thinking that you know everything.

Speaker 3 28:36

Yeah, exactly, it doesn't work that way. It does not work that way. It could keep progressing forward sideways. It always helps out.

Speaker 1 28:44

Yeah, damn dude. So basically you were helping out Czecho with these shows and then when did you decide, you know what? Maybe there's something I can get into. Do you remember that?

Speaker 3 29:00

Yeah, it was about five, maybe six years ago, because I do a lot of shows at Dahe and it just started off there because I would go there all the time. That was actually one of the first venues I ever went to. Actually, I saw my first show at Dahe when I was like 15 or 16 years old. I jumped over the fence in the back and I didn't stick into drink, I just wanted to see the bands, because it was like a rockabilly night and it was a band at the time called Moonlight Cruisers and then they turned into Moonlight Trio and then I don't think they're playing anymore, but there was really a kick-ass rockabilly band and that was my first introduction to this thing, because I got my stuff into the kind of music I didn't know anybody at the time when I was a youngster. But that's how you never been afraid to jump into things, you know.

Speaker 1 29:45

That's how you start off by jumping into anything.

Speaker 3 29:48

as you progress and you learn stuff and you find new people, new bands, new music. So that's where it started, right there. So, yeah, I always had a soft spot for that location and then I just since I knew the owner, I just spoke to him and talked about organizing some shows and every new bunch of bands at that point and just slowly but surely through the last five years, like being bigger and bigger and I've been getting bigger headliners and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 30:13

Yeah, and it works too, because you're also in a band, you play at other shows, you play with other production companies, so it's just like a big it's like a big network. Big network right.

Speaker 3 30:27

And it's always like it has a lot of moving parts. You know it's good if especially if you have the patience and like you're level headed, like you could learn a lot of things and get ahead. You know you have to also put in the work as well. I mean it doesn't come easy as time consuming or this and that, but if you really love it like you'll stick with it.

Speaker 1 30:46

Was that you that did the show with Three Bad Jax and the Rockets? That chain reaction, yeah, chain reaction.

Speaker 3 30:54

They actually contacted us. Three Bad Jax actually organized that.

Speaker 1 30:59

Oh okay.

Speaker 2 30:59

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 31:00

So then they wanted us to play with them and stuff like that. We've been trying to work together for like the last couple months or years, so they got us on for that. I think we're going to do a couple more gigs, probably more like next year.

Speaker 1 31:10

Okay.

Speaker 3 31:11

We're taking a little break because we were playing way too much, you know.

Speaker 1 31:13

Really.

Speaker 3 31:14

Yeah, we were playing like every other week, you know, or sometimes every week for like, for the entirety of like, since like four years or so, three years, oh wow, yeah.

Speaker 1 31:23

so how do you work with, like burnout? Do you have your fill that way, Like when you're constantly doing something, because you have your nine to five, you have your, you meet a lot of the business. You have your pop ups like how, how do you do that and how do you balance all that?

Speaker 3 31:39

I only feel it if I stop to breathe. I'm tired. You know, like just this earlier this year, I'm like you know what? Because we already had our set of shows, like this year, like the first half of this year, like these shows were already set in stone. So I was like I'm a man of my word, you know. If I say I'm going to play a show, I'm going to play a show. If I say I'm going to be here, I'm going to be here, you know, and that's, I'm just some kind of emergency.

Speaker 1 31:59

And that's a good trade. That's what you need to do, because sometimes that's all you have it. And then plus it's two with your reputation and your businesses, also with the band, because who's going to want to book or work with somebody? That's a flake and Exactly. You know what I mean. It's not good.

Speaker 3 32:16

Yeah, that's definitely about character trading. I wasn't raised that way, you know. Like I said, work hard, you know, work long and then just find what you live and let it kill you. So I'll probably be dead by next year. I'm going to be straight from the grave.

Speaker 1 32:34

Dude, you hurt your foot like not too long ago. That was her actually. Oh, it was you.

Speaker 3 32:39

She shattered her ankle like last year. We went to like a backyard show in LA.

Speaker 1 32:44

You shattered it Four places.

Speaker 2 32:48

Yeah what are you doing Right?

Speaker 3 32:50

down.

Speaker 1 32:54

Don't get any ideas. Amber, that sounds like an Amber injury.

Speaker 2 32:58

I was going to the kitchen and I slipped and I'm going to talk for myself, because I'm not going to assume you guys is age, but once I turned 30, after that, any little thing. The other day I was getting something from the bottom drawer and I pulled it out and I was like, oh I can't?

Speaker 3 33:16

You were out for like a week.

Speaker 2 33:17

But I have like a massage again now.

Speaker 1 33:19

I learned Is this, is this ready? Yeah, oh, hell, yeah, okay, so we're going to. Actually he, fabian, brought us some of Papa Rhino Michela.

Speaker 2 33:29

Michela, michela.

Speaker 1 33:32

What kind are?

Speaker 2 33:33

you doing? Oh, there you go, it's cold. Do yours in the front. There you go. Is that the original or the? You said there was a. Yeah, I brought an OG and I brought a mango one.

Speaker 3 33:54

Okay, so Run me through how to have Papa Rhino Michela.

Speaker 1 34:00

Do we do beer first? Do we do Michela the first? I like to do both actually, oh, okay.

Speaker 3 34:08

So I like to put a little bit in the bottom, pour like most of the beer and then pour a little bit on top.

Speaker 2 34:14

So Where's our, our drink, cam? I can no it's right here.

Speaker 1 34:21

I can just flip it on. All right, fabian hold on.

Speaker 2 34:27

Let's put that one on, so we can. I got you. You're like the man on the news when, during the pandemic when he got up and he was in his comes back Because you're in your pink shirt. I forgot. Because you're in your car, there you go.

Speaker 3 34:53

With the mushroom PJs. That was pretty cool, though Ready yeah.

Speaker 2 35:01

Walk us through it. Narrow rated.

Speaker 3 35:04

Alright, so I like to port just a little bit about an ounce.

Speaker 1 35:07

Okay, a little chunky because of the ice, but you forgot the camera. I was gonna go for earlier when I first started this.

Speaker 3 35:26

We're all quiet, we're all like focused.

Speaker 2 35:28

If you're listening to it, you should watch it better. Watch us on YouTube so you can see the full Dang that looks good and just port a little bit more.

Speaker 3 35:40

Okay, just garnish it a little bit. It should be good to go.

Speaker 1 35:45

Dang.

Speaker 3 35:46

Especially when you don't have something to mix it with, like a spoon or something, so that way you get some on the bottom and some on the top. Okay, go ahead, we'll make mine real quick.

Speaker 2 35:59

Okay, right now. You put the tahin on top and made me think of when my mom used to make me liquefiedos and she used to put.

Speaker 3 36:05

The tahin?

Speaker 2 36:06

No, she used to put the tahin on the top and it would go in like that Tahin.

Speaker 3 36:11

Wake up. You get a little bit of tahin in your eye. You know I'm going to give you chorro in the morning, so you can wake up Tabasco.

Speaker 2 36:18

The color on that looks really good.

Speaker 1 36:20

Thank you, oh yeah, so this is the original one, right? Yes, okay, I'll wait so I can cheers you, but it smells really good. Thank you, oh yeah, it smells delicious. Okay, thanks for bringing that. Cheers brother, cheers my friend. Oh my god, hell. Yeah, bro, that is delicious, I appreciate it, thank you dude. It was really good. I kind of want to taste it.

Speaker 2 37:00

You want to taste it? I do Give me a little, just a second. Do you want to?

Speaker 1 37:10

Okay, that's good.

Speaker 2 37:15

I can't even taste the beer.

Speaker 1 37:16

Amber normally doesn't drink, so If you go out here to Want a little bit Taste it. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 37:27

Oh yeah, bro, that's good because it's not overwhelming or over salty or anything it's like.

Speaker 3 37:34

I make it pretty concentrated, so out of one of these small containers you could get a whole six pack out of it.

Speaker 1 37:38

Okay.

Speaker 3 37:40

You could see the big, giant ones at the store, this big, and they're like five bucks, like half the price of mine. We still got to put a bunch of shit in it and it's pretty bland, you know.

Speaker 2 37:50

You fill up the cup with the concentrate thing.

Speaker 3 37:54

It made a whole 60-ounce beer, so that's pretty good to go.

Speaker 1 37:58

Yeah, and Amber asked do you need any lime or anything? And you really don't.

Speaker 3 38:05

Yeah, that's optional. What was it to be? Kind of like, just serving go basically. There's a lot of other mixes. You got to put more stuff in it. This is just pour a little bit. A little bit goes a long ways. Now also, a bunch of people have been using it for food, really so like marinate their steaks, put it in shrimp cocktail, so they just chop up their vegetables out of the seafood and then they would pour like a. I saw big ones too, so they would just pour a whole giant big one in there. You want to season the cocktail at all, or anything you know there you go.

Speaker 1 38:38

So what gave you the idea of? Well, not just Michelin mix, but you also do Awa's too, right?

Speaker 3 38:46

Yeah, we do. Awa frescas, mostly pineapple, mango. You know we haven't messed around with the milky stuff yet like orchata, but let's do well, like pineapple, especially during like, when it's hot, like those go like an hour or two. If we're vending we're going to be going around, you know. Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 2 39:08

There we go. So where do you guys usually sell them Like, where can people find them? Do you guys do like?

Speaker 3 39:15

markets or just like at shows, because I was like I'm throwing a lot of shows so like I would vend most of those or half of them. But we'll see like catering or private events, like we've done like a wedding, we've done like birthday parties and stuff like that. Either pop a rhino Michelada or I changed to pop a rhino productions. But you can just DM me on there, dm my personal IG. Okay, this year was a lot of voters like for pickup so I just, you know, shoot the addy and they come and scoop up a couple of them. Has been happening pretty much every weekend or every couple of days to the last three or four months, you know.

Speaker 1 39:52

Hell yeah, bro. We'll throw that link down in the show description.

Speaker 3 39:54

Yeah, for sure man. If anybody wants to get some.

Speaker 1 39:58

Delicious.

Speaker 3 39:59

Thank you, man, I was actually a 10 year old recipe and then I Really yeah, about four years ago. I think it's pretty good to go. I kind of tweaked it over the last 10 years and I'm pretty happy with it. A lot of people seem to like it as well.

Speaker 1 40:14

Have you always messed around with Michelada mixes, like what actually got you into? Hey, I'm going to make Michelada mix, that's just random.

Speaker 3 40:26

I've always been a fan of Micheladas in general.

Speaker 3 40:28

No matter where I go. So then I just started making them at home in 2009, 2010. And whenever there was a party, I would make it. And then after a while the home was like, hey, you make the Micheladas, they come out good when you make them. Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 3 40:42

And then enough, friends are like bro, you should bottle it, you should bottle it. They've been telling me for years. I'm like nah, nah, it's going to be hard. You know like I've doubted on you and then, after like four years ago, I'm like you know what, fuck it. And I was like I think it was like right before the pandemic, and then I started messing around with it, added some more stuff to it, actually wrote down like the ingredients for once, and then, um, yeah, like the rest of it was kind of a domino effect. You know like I posted it and first the homies were getting it, told their homies and this and that you know, so part like for the first like year, was selling out really, really quick. You know, like right now it's different because we're doing vending and stuff and we're making specific amounts that I don't make too much. There's like always small batch, always fresh. Oh, that's good yeah.

Speaker 1 41:30

And something like Michilada too. I have. To have you ever been to the Michilada rumble in San Anita?

Speaker 3 41:38

I have not. No, they actually it moves around, because sometimes it's in like Paris. Yeah, yeah, I know what it is Like. I've been following them for a while and like, um, that is the goal, definitely, you know.

Speaker 2 41:49

Oh, we know the person that puts it together, so let us know.

Speaker 1 41:53

Yeah, it'll be cool. Yeah yeah, Super Steve is a good friend of ours on the podcast.

Speaker 3 41:58

Yeah, it looks like a very fun event Like. I've been following it for a couple years, so I've been like keeping an eye on that you know this year was pretty awesome at San Anita.

Organizing Music Events and Artwork

Speaker 1 42:07

Trish Toledo Headlined Jackie Mendes played there like oldie style Also you posted about it.

Speaker 3 42:16

Yeah, I'd be watching.

Speaker 1 42:16

Even if.

Speaker 2 42:17

I don't like I'd be watching.

Speaker 3 42:20

I'm like keeping my eyeball, but no, it's cool. I saw some of the. I think the headliner you posted, or something like that.

Speaker 1 42:26

Yeah, A couple months ago. Yeah, it was cool. It was. It's a good event. It's pretty cool. The venue is cool. I want to go to the one in Paris. I don't think he's posted anything about that.

Speaker 3 42:36

I think that one's every six months or it seems like it's like every. I have a family out there, so like they're always telling me he's like, oh, you're going to beat the meantime to that rumble, I'm like, ah, shit, I missed it again. Yeah.

Speaker 1 42:47

Yeah, and moves around. I think he did somewhere in like, like out of California, I don't know. Maybe I'm getting. I'm mixing that up with something else.

Speaker 3 42:57

This sounds about right, Like I want to see he probably does it like three times a year? Yeah, it's definitely more than once a year but it does move around.

Speaker 1 43:03

Yeah, it's a cool show, but yeah, dude, this is. I love the artwork you do the artwork too.

Speaker 3 43:10

No, it's actually our original drummer. He's a graphic designer. He's like um, he's doing pretty well with that and he designed. He designed our band logo or old ones or new ones. I always go back to him because he knows exactly what I want, you know. So he's got. We have like the same mentality when it comes down to the artwork I want. So basically I just tell him what I wanted and he's like all right, cool, I got you from him, you know.

Speaker 1 43:30

Can I ask you how you got the nickname right now?

Speaker 3 43:34

It was actually my son when he was little like he was probably like three or four, and then he was like that is like you're my papa right now. He's like I'm your baby right now, you know, so he would say it when he was little.

Speaker 3 43:45

And now he's reminding me. He's all embarrassed and shamed, so that's kind of. I think I always remember it. So I'm like all right, cool, I'm Papa right now, you know. So he's like, but now he's like everybody thinks you're Papa right now, but you're just my dad, you know. But yeah, that's where it came from, basically yeah, okay, yeah, and that was that was he's 17, now so a minute ago. He's growing up too quick.

Speaker 2 44:06

So he's so cool to be baby right now.

Speaker 1 44:09

Yeah.

Speaker 2 44:11

He's so cool in that.

Speaker 1 44:12

Yeah, sometimes, yeah, just call me Brando dad.

Speaker 3 44:16

His name is Brando, so you get so mad when people say people always call him Brandon. It's like Brando, like Marlon Brando. You know, oh, okay, cause I'm a hipster like that, you know. Well, he's a good kid, he's a homebody like wife, you know. So that's good Cause I was at this mother's also at his age. I was like not home for like weeks at a time, you know.

Speaker 1 44:36

So how do you balance? Like all this, bro, like you, you're throwing the event. I don't know if did you give me an answer on that.

Speaker 3 44:43

I didn't. I kind of like avoid it. You know what. It kind of comes naturally, like I don't really sit there and think. I think I feel like if I sit there and think about it I'll kind of like fumble things, you know. So kind of just like I know I have an event. I always put things in my calendar. About two, three years ago I started putting everything on my calendar before it was by memory. I like it.

Speaker 3 45:00

I like it. So now I got to put in my calendar. Otherwise I'm going to like, you know, double book or mid-states here and there. But yeah, like I said, we got the Michelin stuff, we got it done to like a match or like we need this X amount, you know. So we got this down, so we don't like over make it or under make it. You know it's always like the right number with the bookings. Like I said, I put it in my calendar Like wait something, that bookings like five months ahead of time, six months ahead of time. You know I like to, I like to book way ahead of time.

Speaker 3 45:26

That's my thing is like the more time I have to promote it, the more time I have to prepare for it. I think that's just better for everyone, you know. So that's kind of how I manage that the band and the managing the other bands, like Calavera and also Dagma Mundista you know it's like an OG hardcore punk band from the 90s and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean it's all for the love of the music. You know, like I just I love contributing to it Like money wise it's not there. You know I'm like happy if I break even most of the time, and sometimes I don't. You know which it happens, you know. But as long as I'm contributing, as soon as I, as long as I'm above ground, I'm going to keep contributing. Now, I'm going to keep pushing music forward. You know, I want people to remember music, to have a good time. You know, it's in my blood, you know.

Speaker 1 46:16

Yeah, yeah, especially when you're doing something that you really like and you love Like it. Sometimes, yeah, the money matters. Sometimes, yeah, but when you're creating all these experiences for yourself, but not only you, you're creating experiences for a subculture, you're creating experiences for everybody else in the community, and not just the music the community of the music that you guys are playing but for the people that are around the venue, or just there for the show there for the show, or just people coming in and hanging out a bit.

Speaker 1 46:55

You're providing that experience. I think that's awesome.

Speaker 3 46:58

Thank you, man, I appreciate it. Like, I do what I can with the little resources I have, you know, and I guess I'm going to keep doing it. So I can't do it no more, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 2 47:08

Have you seen, within like because obviously you know you've been playing music for 15 years, you said, and then doing the events, five, but I mean within the timeframe from like the beginning to now. Like have you seen like a change in just people going out to shows or participation within shows and things like that? Like, has there been a significant change? Like does it go? Does it have as lows as it has its highs?

Speaker 3 47:36

You mean like attendance wise, yeah, yeah, like I mean I would say, with psychobily, of course, the one that goes for all kinds of music as well Like as of now, like it's not as big as it was, I would say, maybe 15, 20 years ago. This thing was everybody's getting older, so everybody at my age is kind of out of it. We're not attending shows anymore, they're too busy, this and that I mean I just turned 40 this year, you know, and so I'm still kind of doing the same thing I was doing 15, 20 years ago. But like I don't like it that way.

Speaker 3 48:08

Some people say, oh, when are you going to grow up this, and that I'm like you grew up. You probably know for all of us. You know I want to keep doing what I love doing, you know, as long as I'm getting shit done and providing for my family and it doesn't mean I can't have hobbies you know I'm going to keep doing them because I enjoy them, you know. Yeah, but yeah, of course it's like attendance like it fluctuates always, like I said, like the shows during the pandemic were part of like I mean, it's a small venue, so they were averaging about 80 to 115, 20 people, but that's even still good for the whole world being shut down?

Speaker 1 48:39

Yeah.

Speaker 3 48:39

Yeah, I mean we were open when we were supposed to. They found like a little loophole. They were selling hot dogs or some shit, so that's kind of how like okay where they're selling food oh okay.

Speaker 2 48:48

Yeah, I think that was a rule.

Speaker 3 48:49

Like you couldn't like be open unless you were serving food or something. Oh, okay. So you know, so, like they were like doing that and it worked out, you know.

Speaker 2 48:57

You're like I don't know. I just sold the hot dogs and they stayed.

Speaker 3 49:00

Right.

Speaker 2 49:01

And then a band showed up and I don't know.

Speaker 1 49:04

I was just walking by officer.

Speaker 3 49:05

Yeah, You're like you're hot dog. There's a beer in my hand and a hot dog.

Speaker 2 49:10

I would just keep the hot dog in my hand the entire time.

Speaker 3 49:13

Yeah, just a little tiny bite. Yeah, that's funny. They're pretty good hot dogs, though Sometimes on a good day they were bacon wrapped. Oh man, like fuck up like three or four of those you know Easily right. That's funny, they're pretty small.

Speaker 3 49:30

But yeah this, like like I said, like that, like it's it was, and then sometimes I've had shows where it's like 50 people. You know what I mean. The last couple of shows I've thrown over been slightly bigger, you know. So it's like you know it was 100 plus or something like that. You know, like I said, we always wrote the punches and as long as I'm breaking even like we're good to go, we could go for another one or a couple other ones, you know.

Speaker 1 49:56

Yeah, but like I said it's, it's just getting everybody under one place, it's not. It's very.

Speaker 3 50:04

It's getting harder and harder because there's so many options here in LA and Orange County Always so many things to do Jesus, tell me about it bro, which is good and bad. Like I'll say good for you. Know people that love music because you know you could always go watch two or three bands. We have the choice between two or three bands but if you're lucky enough there's two or three bands are in the same venue.

Speaker 3 50:24

You know, that's what I try to do is like gather like a handful of bands that people want to see together. You know I always strategize and try to pick the best. You know, headliner and the supporting acts and this and that yeah.

Speaker 1 50:39

How do you, how do you begin to like, do that? Is there like a formula to throwing a show? Like, especially like, with genre, like a genre of music?

Speaker 3 50:48

Yeah, I always start with the headliner myself.

Speaker 1 50:50

Yeah.

Speaker 3 50:51

So it's like I had a headliner either I worked with before or a new headliner that I want to work with I've never worked with before and I would start with them.

Speaker 3 50:59

I always make sure I secure them and always ask them months ahead of time, like three, four months, sometimes even six months ahead of time, and I make sure I lock them in and then offer them with you know, with respect, what they're, or you know close to what they're asking for, and then from there I go, you know, with the supporting act, the one right on before them, and then from there I usually do a local acts right after that. So you know, I guess I put it on there like half the time. I also get, like you know, other friends, bands or other bands that I've heard of and I check them out and like want them to open up. You know, but it does take, it's a lot of work. It is actually like I'm so used to doing it, like it's just kind of like second nature, like I just kind of do it and since I do it so often, it doesn't really seem like work.

Speaker 1 51:42

But you know, and it's good to keep good relationship between the bands, between the venue owners.

Speaker 3 51:50

Always, always. You know, like, always, respect people. Like I said, I respect people and I expect them to respect me. Now, the way I treat you, you should treat me the same way you know yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 52:01

So it's just like, that's the way I am, like I don't see, don't really have any bad blood with anybody and I'm a very social person. I'm pretty easy to get along with, you know. But it's just like it's good, it's just overall like it's, especially if you're trying to network, like you can't be an asshole None. Surprisingly, a lot of people could be hassles, you know.

Speaker 1 52:20

Tell me about it.

Speaker 3 52:23

Who hurt you?

Speaker 1 52:23

my dude. I know We'll talk later, she's here. She's here. She roses me every day, but it doesn't hurt me, I'm kind of. I'm kind of used to it already. That's her love language.

Speaker 2 52:39

When we started dating. He's like what? Why do you always make fun of me? I always roast you, cuz I like you and she's quick too.

Speaker 1 52:45

It's just like it's snappy with it.

Speaker 2 52:47

So now I'm like whoa, like I just because that's how I grew up with my family, like yeah, so I had to. It's just. I don't know, I didn't think I was roasting him until one day he's like he's like why don't you just take me to dollhood?

Speaker 3 53:05

I?

Speaker 1 53:07

Was in the therapist office talking about my problem.

Speaker 3 53:11

It's gonna be a hundred bucks an hour and it's not just.

Speaker 1 53:13

It's not just her too, it's like her, her sister. The whole family. Dude, I Think your dad is the quiet one. He doesn't really say anything right party, he's the most mate. No, he's cool. I think so. At least I don't think so. I'm gonna text him later. Do you really hate me? Can I get you another drink?

Speaker 3 53:41

Yes. Yeah you know, that's funny.

Speaker 2 53:48

I Want to know the million dollar question. Aren't you kidding? What's up? How long does it take you to do your hair now?

Speaker 3 53:55

It took me 40 minutes two weeks ago. Yeah, okay, I don't wash it a lot like I wait, but I wait about 10 days because I remember at one point I was like leaving it for a whole month or six weeks. Yeah, yeah it's just sleep on my side, you know like kind of like. Makes it a little, you know, yeah but, um, yeah, like it's more like 30 minutes, but it's just like I touch it up every couple days.

Speaker 2 54:20

Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 3 54:21

Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 54:23

You had your hair like that, huh.

Speaker 3 54:25

Did you really? Oh, we guys see pictures now.

Speaker 1 54:27

Yeah, a long time ago.

Speaker 3 54:34

Thank, you dude on my personal?

Speaker 2 54:37

I don't think so. No oh you, you know what you might have the one with your sister.

Speaker 1 54:43

Oh, but that wasn't a. Let me look at my Facebook, check my space, my space. I try to get into my space. Not too long ago and I couldn't.

Speaker 3 54:54

No, I've been hearing that a lot lately that people like that are like half or like pictures are wiped out Like some weird stuff like that.

Speaker 2 55:01

That's weird. Where'd they go?

Speaker 1 55:02

I was trying to. I was trying to get into it because I Remember I self-produced like one song and I was trying to listen to it but I couldn't find it. I found the page but I wasn't able to play it.

Speaker 3 55:17

Hmm.

Speaker 1 55:18

That was the only, thing, but.

Speaker 3 55:21

I don't know who's still supporting my space part. Like my two friends, I'm surprised it's still up.

Speaker 2 55:28

But it changed right, yeah, after a while they switched over there.

Speaker 1 55:32

There were originally gonna have a music thing.

Speaker 3 55:36

Yeah, I think like Slayer was under or some big band did like a whole album on there, like strictly on their website. That was even the longest, probably five years ago, I Wonder if that's when they're downfall.

Speaker 2 55:46

What was that? Their downfall or I?

Speaker 3 55:48

or they are now. It's probably a Facebook and Instagram.

Speaker 2 55:51

Instagram. Yeah, I Remember when Instagram came out. Everyone would just put pictures, just put pictures food right, okay, there's one.

Speaker 3 56:02

That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 56:03

Let me see, put it on your little baby dude. You're sitting on the toilet, oh.

Speaker 3 56:08

Oh, you look like my little brother.

Speaker 2 56:11

Yeah, oh Wait, I'm not putting it on here. Oh wait, what am I doing there? You go. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 56:21

That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 56:23

But this was back in what? 2000? No, because I reposted it. That was, I want to say like 2010, because it was before my son was born. So it was like 2009. I want to say 2009, 2010 nice.

Speaker 3 56:41

What's one of your favorites? I go, billy Banzer, a couple oh.

Speaker 2 56:46

You scared me oh, I scared myself.

Speaker 1 56:50

Most favorite.

Speaker 3 56:52

Let's see or a couple favorites I mean, I don't have a favorite band, but yeah. I always name a couple favorite ones you know rockets are probably up there.

Speaker 1 57:01

My favorites Quakes are Pretty up there with my favorites.

Speaker 3 57:07

Also got the lip to goes the quakes and I was kind of hell.

Speaker 1 57:11

Let's see rockets, three bad jacks. I seen necromanic like a few months ago. They're gonna play again at.

Speaker 3 57:21

Yes, they played there, like every year, yeah they played there last November, two week.

Speaker 1 57:26

We caught them there. The rhythm shakers really get to yeah, they're good band. Um, let's see black rose phantom.

Speaker 3 57:36

Little black rose yeah.

Speaker 1 57:38

Let's see what else. What else back in the day.

Speaker 3 57:44

I like black roses, like mixed with, like hardcore.

Speaker 1 57:47

Yeah, I'm psychably I miss. I know they're not really strictly 100% Psycho Billy, but I like the triggers. Triggers are awesome triggers are cool.

Speaker 3 57:57

Yeah, he's in Chencha, but inches to oh. He is singer Chencha, but inches really Okay, hold on. I need to type that in so Chris, the singer from the triggers is a singer for Chencha. But inches, how do you spell that? Chencha, yeah, ch.

Speaker 2 58:15

Ian and.

Speaker 3 58:16

CH II Na oh a but inches Chencha, but inches pop up, right away them. Yeah, okay cool.

Speaker 2 58:24

I remember seeing them when I was in high school.

Speaker 1 58:28

Really.

Speaker 2 58:28

Yeah.

Speaker 1 58:30

What the heck yeah, cuz they're.

Speaker 2 58:32

They're local, while they were local to me.

Speaker 1 58:34

Yeah, oh, I didn't know that I.

Speaker 2 58:38

Didn't know he was from that band. The other band.

Speaker 3 58:41

But yeah, yeah, the them through the triggers. I've been playing a while. The show there was on what last week. Last weekend, with the Rockets at Dahut, the drummer from the triggers, um, showed up and he's a pretty cool dude. No, he, we were talking something like that and I asked him cuz like I hadn't heard, I haven't seen them on like on a flyer for a while. But yeah, we're there, me need to come back and play some more shows pretty soon as the triggers.

Speaker 1 59:06

Yeah, with Ruben on bass to.

Speaker 3 59:10

Bass player, but yeah, like they're just playing over all just to play.

Speaker 1 59:13

That's how I cuz. I was following Ruben from Los Defuntos when he was playing in Los Defuntos and then I think he played in another band and then he hooked up with with the triggers and Like Los Defuntos.

Speaker 3 59:28

That album is fucking amazing. That's such a good album, the only album they put out the demo with the three songs or they had an actual full blown album.

Speaker 1 59:36

Do they really, you sure? Yeah, for a couple things it's called oh, they did because yeah because, yeah, I remember that, I remember their, their demo and then it was that that flew that full blown Album, because they redid, born in East LA.

Speaker 3 59:55

Yeah, they read those songs on the album.

Speaker 1 59:57

Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I remember spit fire and tears and In in weed here and uptown would hear. Yeah, you remember that's pop oh yeah, that's where I got my demo from. I was like a freshman and I walked into that place and I Maybe had fliers and CDs like chilling there, right yeah on the outside and it's not there anymore. They moved it to a different city, but then I think they closed down finally, but To the uptown, 2000 is still standing.

Speaker 2 1:00:27

What was the story went to? That was uptown 2000, oh, uptown 2000. Yeah, rocker shop, yeah that's still there.

Speaker 3 1:00:33

I was there like a, I think, like late last year, to buy some spikes or something.

Speaker 1 1:00:37

Yeah, they, they still have all the cool shirts I sometimes this year hot. Yeah, I got a Batmobile shirt. Oh, batmobile is probably one of my, my favorites. I want to go see them, but besides Going to Tijuana maniac, I want to plan a trip to Europe to go see some bands in Europe.

Speaker 3 1:00:59

This one's amazing dude.

Speaker 1 1:01:01

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:01:01

I've been wanting to do that for a fuck a while. It's got to get my passport renewed and Like let's go yeah dude.

Speaker 1 1:01:08

Hell yeah, japan too bro.

Speaker 3 1:01:10

That's actually the first one on the bucket list. Japan yeah, just to go in Japan in general and then going for like psychoblade shows of it, I'd be like the cherry on top.

Speaker 2 1:01:17

It's so cool.

Speaker 1 1:01:17

It's fucking Amazing bro.

Speaker 3 1:01:20

They're here like they go hard, man. Yeah, they go hard or go home.

Speaker 2 1:01:24

Yeah, they're it's scary. We went in November. We talked about it at the time, but we went in November and I didn't know show them the.

Speaker 1 1:01:32

Go to my personal and show them the the video. You may be seen it, but I gotta show everybody. This is was insane For this one. Just scroll down just a little bit. There we go, the Cyclops Headline. That show, bro, and it was fucking not so used to play at a.

Speaker 3 1:01:59

Was that um festival by the beach?

Speaker 1 1:02:02

Called there we go. You passed it.

Speaker 2 1:02:05

Right there, oh, right here.

Speaker 1 1:02:07

Yeah, open that bad boy.

Speaker 3 1:02:10

Yeah, I haven't seen this one.

Speaker 2 1:02:13

I'm gonna put on your headphones, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:02:17

It's a, it's the recorded version, but I I match it up with the actual video. I so I'm standing on the outskirt of this right and I'm protecting Amber because, because of this, yeah, I'm sending directly behind this is where it gets fucking crazy and I I almost lose my phone like ten times.

Speaker 2 1:03:04

And it's tiny I.

Speaker 1 1:03:16

Think there was a front man From high no mad, high no Maddie. This is Japanese psychophily band that they. They played there. I think it was Me and him were the biggest dudes there, like all the other dudes were. Were were a little bit shorter and really thin, but we were the we're the big, we're the big boys dude. I was coming for you. He kept on coming.

Speaker 3 1:03:43

Yeah, do it in what you like.

Speaker 1 1:03:46

No, he was probably excited to just see another big guy like in the pit. I think that's what it was. How?

Speaker 3 1:03:51

long were you guys out there?

Speaker 1 1:03:52

We were there for what? Five Ten we were there for ten days. What was I for those ten days?

Speaker 3 1:04:01

financially like realistically, how bad was it? Or I Know for next time.

Speaker 2 1:04:09

What we were kind of invited last minute by my sister.

Speaker 3 1:04:14

There's just a chillin in Japan.

Speaker 2 1:04:17

No, it was one of those things where we just kind of like let's go. My niece was turning 14 and you know one of those things.

Speaker 3 1:04:26

So anyways.

Speaker 2 1:04:28

We got pretty lucky. Our flights were six hundred dollars each. It's not bad. No, so round trip, round trip, and then, once we got there, I think for both of us maybe would you say like the total for the ten days staying with?

Speaker 3 1:04:47

maybe five thousand for like no everything, everything.

Speaker 2 1:04:56

Yeah, cuz cuz eating out there was.

Speaker 1 1:04:59

Cheap. Oh, my god it was. It was so inexpensive and yeah, so we ate ramen.

Speaker 2 1:05:06

Ramen bowls were like three dollars. Sushi, I mean, we ate there was a night where we were.

Speaker 3 1:05:13

We eat sushi.

Speaker 2 1:05:15

We had sushi. Go have beer, but let me tell you it's different.

Speaker 3 1:05:25

It's imagine way better than whatever shit we have here.

Speaker 2 1:05:27

It's good, it's good so over there it's just sashimi, so they don't do rolls, rolls is.

Speaker 3 1:05:32

American.

Speaker 2 1:05:33

American thing, and so it's our first night there.

Speaker 1 1:05:37

I was pretty upset that they didn't have Philadelphia rolls.

Speaker 2 1:05:39

I'm just gonna no, so there where we stayed, it right across there was restaurant. There's restaurants everywhere. Everything is at walking distance. Everybody walks, everybody bikes there's. You know, we would take car, like taxis or ubers, because the locations we were going to were pretty far, but if you use the railway it's easy that that's crazy how I go.

Speaker 1 1:06:09

Yeah, rush hour. Yeah, the, the rail, the. What was it? A train? Right train basically was a train and it was pat, it got really past videos where they're smashing people, where they're smashing people in yeah.

Speaker 2 1:06:25

To close the door.

Speaker 1 1:06:26

Well, that that was it literally what happens out there, and we were in the middle.

Food Adventures and Travel Stories

Speaker 2 1:06:30

Yeah, it was yeah, it was pretty bad, but other than that. So, yeah, so we go across the street and it's a Sushi place and we're like, all right, let's get sushi. But, mind you, no one speaks English. There's nothing in English. They don't care to speak English. So, you know, we're like, okay, that's cool, and it was our, our cars. We had just gotten there the night before so we didn't have, like, our translating app that we use for the other time, because this one sucked and we're all trying to translate.

Speaker 3 1:07:01

Google translate or something.

Speaker 2 1:07:02

It, we use a different one, and then we used Google translate. But more of the story was we didn't know what the heck we were eating, so it was like a.

Speaker 1 1:07:09

Like a, like a like a belt, like a Russian rule, a revolving belt and we were just grabbing stuff here and there and there was one that you guys eat food poison yourselves. I know still to this day.

Speaker 2 1:07:22

It's pretty. It was pretty gross. It was like like it had like a hard shell on the outside, but then on the inside it was like mushy I don't know, and I couldn't spit it out. So I was probably like horse genitivity.

Speaker 1 1:07:34

I don't know what it was, which was pretty funny because the app that we have, like it scans I think it was Google translate and you use your phone, your camera, and it scans like all the writing and it translates it for you in real time and so, basically, that's the app that we were using all the time that we're out there and we were. I was scanning a menu because I was just looking out like something with beef, something with whatever, and it missed translated and it's or maybe it didn't miss translate, but it said it literally said horse.

Speaker 1 1:08:14

Horse like on the plate because it was like a plate of, it was like a combination of different like noodles, different type of Protein on there and some vegetables, but it literally said horse until you have to like move it around to give you a different word.

Speaker 3 1:08:28

Hmm, yeah, so you guys ate the horse, you know yeah, do we go, end up going into that?

Speaker 2 1:08:36

restaurant. Yeah, that's when they gave me that chicken with ketchup, remember.

Speaker 1 1:08:39

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 1:08:40

It was like rice and then they added. They added Like ketchup in there and then just like some chicken. That's kind of weird.

Speaker 3 1:08:48

But was it good at least.

Speaker 1 1:08:52

There was one. I'm amber, got sick out there I got sick. She got really sick, for I mean I felt bad for you because the the whole trip that she was out there Like it was like every other day something right.

Speaker 2 1:09:03

It was rough for me.

Speaker 1 1:09:04

Yeah it.

Speaker 2 1:09:06

I don't know what the heck it was if it was the elevation, the chain, because I've traveled before and I've never been that sick.

Speaker 3 1:09:13

Sometimes, like we're like sensitive to, like adjusting to food. Yeah especially if it's like fresh. It's like I mean, I eat everything.

Speaker 2 1:09:20

I eat in Mexico and on the street and like you know.

Speaker 3 1:09:24

So I was like I'm good, I'm solid it's a go you're, but the ramen that I ate hat, which was I'll do it all over again, even if I have to get sick.

Speaker 2 1:09:33

It was probably the best ramen I've ever had in my life, but it was very fatty, like it had a lot of like, oil and like. And they asked they said do you want the oil like taken off, like the fat taken off? And I was like no, no, no, no, give it to me the way that it comes. And I was like all right, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 1:09:51

Sick. It's like it's your funeral. How long were you sick?

Speaker 2 1:09:54

Well, there was just different things when I got there.

Speaker 1 1:09:58

It was a jet lag leg, really bad.

Speaker 2 1:10:00

My feet were super swollen, I got a fever and then I recovered and then like two days later is when I got the food poisoning and then I was sick for like a day and then after that it was like my ears and it was like a mess. Yeah, but I had fun. Yeah, part of the experience had fun the last day we were there.

Speaker 1 1:10:24

Let's go get some more ramen let's go right, but on out of honestly, it Changes, like your perspective, just like with the Japanese culture, especially with food, like we can count on one hand the amount of times that we've been to a Japanese restaurant since coming back.

Speaker 3 1:10:44

You know what I mean. Like yeah, the real deal.

Speaker 1 1:10:46

It's kind of hard to we were always going to ramen spots to sushi. Like we've been wet, a total of like four times.

Speaker 2 1:10:54

In the last year. In the last year, yeah, and we were going like avidly, like we really like ramen like every, like every other couple days, we came back and we're like yeah, sounds like us.

Speaker 3 1:11:05

Sometimes we get like stuck in a place we got, we keep going like twice. Yeah, you know, or three times, that fucking week, you know. So when we fucked up because we're like hooked on it, you know.

Speaker 1 1:11:14

Yeah, or when you go to Mexico and then you get, you get good mati schools, and then you come back here and try mati schools. It's just not. It's not the same, do you?

Speaker 3 1:11:25

just want to because, like you were fine with it and you thought it was the most amazing thing before that, right, that's how usually works and you have the real deal. You're like fuck. Yeah, I need any like shit.

Speaker 1 1:11:34

Exactly and and I didn't really notice that until I started dating Amber when because she says that she's never gone to like any Mexican restaurants because that's what she gets at home, right. So once she started dating me, I like going to, I like eating out and eating out at Mexican places, so I thought that they were really good Mexican food places and then when I took her, she was like what the fuck is this?

Speaker 3 1:12:06

I think it's everybody's guilty pleasure. You know, like whenever you've been, like you know, clocked out for like a couple weeks I'll talk about you we get cleared out with five dollars, man.

Speaker 1 1:12:14

You know, but we can't talk about them. They're, they could be my, my potential new employer.

Speaker 3 1:12:20

So I plead the physio.

Speaker 1 1:12:26

Hey, they have some really good benefits if you work for the corporate play. So they're like a game room free lunch.

Speaker 3 1:12:37

What application?

Speaker 1 1:12:39

Um.

Speaker 3 1:12:40

Like a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1 1:12:41

Yeah, like a child care program to on site hair salon hair salon.

Speaker 2 1:12:49

You can get a haircut car wash, car washes yeah.

Speaker 3 1:12:53

Yeah, I'm sold already.

Speaker 2 1:12:55

It's because it's turned to a millennial. You know, yeah, there's all millennials.

Speaker 1 1:13:00

Yeah, she had an interview there or you're fixing to know they, I put my resume out there and Like on the, the recruiting Site that I'm on, they sent me the like hey, this is like. This matches your resume for like 90% of whatever that's on your resume. Nice, so I haven't. I haven't done it, but I'm starting to consider it. It's out in Irvine.

Speaker 3 1:13:28

That's what like.

Speaker 1 1:13:31

We went out to Chula Vista not too long ago and it was like 30 minutes.

Speaker 2 1:13:36

It was like 20 minutes from here to there.

Speaker 1 1:13:38

Yeah, you should go for it man. But yeah, dude, all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 1:13:43

All those chalupas and burritos. Imagine dude, and then you just take a tote bag and you bring some home to me.

Speaker 3 1:13:50

You bring home some cold ass chalupas, they're like dang bro, you eat 10 burritos.

Speaker 1 1:13:56

Have you seen that Dave Chappelle, where he works at a McDonald's or something, but it's not called McDonald's?

Speaker 3 1:14:02

Oh it's, I know what you're talking about. I fucking love Chappelle's show.

Speaker 1 1:14:05

Can you pull it up? I want to say it before we get off the podcast. Dude like Dave Chappelle works at McDonald's or something like that.

Speaker 3 1:14:13

Is that gonna make growl, those or something like that? Then make fun of him because he works at McDonald's.

Speaker 1 1:14:17

Yeah, and then at the end, because he always brings food to his wife at the end.

Speaker 3 1:14:22

He cuts her off the McRib or something. Yeah, they're over that far.

Speaker 1 1:14:26

He's like the McRib is back.

Speaker 3 1:14:27

And you ain't getting shit. I'm gonna big max and we'll french fries, some of McRibs.

Speaker 1 1:14:32

Oh, there we go, Whack Arnold's that's what it is.

Speaker 2 1:14:38

This one.

Speaker 1 1:14:39

Yeah, but play the yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that one. No, whack Arnold's that one, that one, that one, that one. Yeah, hell, yeah, dude. What the hell do you think you're gonna do? Nigga, get a real job, bitch. When I was in there, rewind it back.

Speaker 2 1:14:59

All the way, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:15:10

It's gonna be me.

Speaker 3 1:15:16

You bring like a bag of burritos, oj, oj.

Speaker 1 1:16:07

OJ, oj, oj OJ.

Speaker 3 1:16:52

OJ, oj, oj, oj, oj, oj, oj, oj OJ.

Speaker 1 1:18:56

OJ.

Speaker 3 1:18:58

OJ, oj, oj OJ.

Speaker 2 1:19:32

OJ.

Speaker 1 1:19:41

OJ.