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Pull up a seat and tune in for a mind-buzzing episode as we, your favorite hosts Gil and Amber, spill the beans on everything from performing live to vegan cooking with our charming guests, Matthew and Jacqueline from Wait. Think Fast. Ever wondered how artists recall an entire performance worth of lines? Or why the world of comedy is obsessed with physical appearances? Well, we're unmasking these mysteries and so much more.
Discover the magic behind the creation of our song "Free Skate," as we stroll down memory lane to share the inspiration and recording process. We also stir up a lively debate on the controversial side of comedy. From the backlash one faces for a risky joke to the impact of cancel culture on a comedian's freedom of speech, we leave no stone unturned. We even tackle the curious case of a good-looking comedian, debating whether comedy is best left to the less attractive. It's a wild ride that you definitely don't want to miss!
But it's not all serious discussions and debates. We're also serving up a generous helping of laughter and personal stories. Join us as Matthew and Jacqueline reveal their musical journey and how they came to form their renowned band. We'll share our peaceful and perfect holiday experiences and discuss the creative challenges of vegan cooking. So, tune in and let's keep those minds buzzing with this vibrant blend of music, laughter, and provocative discussions. This episode of Mind Buzz Podcast is your ticket to an audio adventure you won't forget.
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3, 2, 1. Music Boom. What is up Mind? Buzz universe.
Speaker 2I'm just going to let it happen now, just let it happen. I'm just going to let it go.
Speaker 1I'm just talking the MBU acronym for that. Welcome everyone. Whatever you like to be called, it's fine, we're all inclusive. Welcome back to the Mind Buzz podcast. I am Gil, your host, and behind the boards working the ones two, three, fours, five, six, seven and eight is Amber. Hi, how are you?
Speaker 2I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1I'm stuffed. Do you have a good holiday.
Speaker 2I did, I did, yeah, did you.
Speaker 1I did. I was thankful for a lot of things, but there's one thing that I am very thankful for, and that we don't have a migrito weekly.
Speaker 2That's rude.
Speaker 1What we do have is a Gilbilly Delac weekly. Can you put that on the screen for me please? I will be. I always say, playing like I'm a musician. Why? Why is that? I think because secretly I want to be a musician.
Speaker 2Instead of a comedian.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, I tried it years ago.
Speaker 2But it didn't work out too bad.
Speaker 1I will be performing at the Central American Heritage Festival, which presents the soy funny comedy fest out in Long Beach tomorrow, november 25th. I believe that there's still some discounts available. Just go to the link. I will put the link down in the show description if you're watching on YouTube or if you're listening to this podcast on Spotify. It's going to be a really cool event. There's going to be food vendors. There's all types of different tickets available amber scrolling through there. There's a VIP ultimate experience that allows you to try all these different foods. Then you get a comedy show. My name's not on there because I actually won the soy funny competition over the past two was it two months?
Speaker 2I was going, yeah, two months Two months.
Speaker 1One victorious on a different podcast smoked all of them. That was a good time. Those guys are great. Yeah, it's going to be an awesome place. We're playing in a theater that seats 800 people. I'm so stoked, I'm super pumped that this is going to take place. Go get your tickets. All right, we'll see you on. Saturday. We'll see you on Saturday and come hang out to Kila's Shots on Amber. What, yeah, it doesn't matter how early it is. Do we have anything else?
Speaker 2Nope, that's about it.
Speaker 1We don't have a MyGreethal weekly and I feel bad now.
Speaker 2I feel bad.
Speaker 4You should. I feel bad Sorry.
Speaker 1Oscar, my bad, they're super great label.
Speaker 2You can still go get their bundle.
Speaker 1Yes, exactly, Can we talk about that for a little bit? We sure can. Okay, so go to MyGreethalnet and pick up their bundle for Christmas, for holiday vinyls.
Speaker 2Where is it In the US?
Speaker 1Kwanzaa.
Speaker 2Where is it Shop?
Speaker 1There you go, here it is. Be a smart shopper. We have it, we play it all the time. We have these vinyls hanging in our bedroom. They fell last night. It's seeing, not last night, a couple nights back.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1We got Las Calacas in the bundle, we got paranoias, we got Adrian Carmine. What else do we have in there?
Speaker 2Maria Sanchez.
Speaker 1Maria Sanchez. Oh yeah, here are 45s in there. So the paranoias.
Speaker 2Las Calacas 3LH, Adrian Carmine and Maria Sanchez. So it's five vinyl records for this price right here. Oh, for some of you that can't see it, they're $60. But yeah, it's a great gift, or even just for yourself.
Speaker 1So check it out. Cool, anything else?
Speaker 4That's it.
Speaker 1All right, let's get into it. Then, amber, let's get into our guests for today. Very excited to have these two, matthew and Jacqueline from Wait. Think Fast how you guys doing.
Speaker 4We are good. Thank you, great Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1Thanks for coming out and doing the podcast. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4No problem, good to have you here.
Speaker 1Do you guys have a good holiday.
Speaker 4We did. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it was great.
Speaker 4It was peaceful and perfect.
Vegan Food and Music Discussion
Speaker 1There we go Exactly. Does he eat a lot of turkey? No, no, no.
Speaker 4We had a lot of salad.
Speaker 1Okay, are you guys vegetarian? No, vegan.
Speaker 5Yeah, you kind of dabble in vegetarianism. I'm kind of a vegetarian, but I started eating at Pescaterian is what. I was, and I started feeling like I needed some more protein, but I'm still afraid of like a steak.
Speaker 2Or have you had a toe furky? No?
Speaker 4Oh my God, is it in the shape of a turkey.
Speaker 2I don't know, can you?
Speaker 1pull it up.
Speaker 2I'm almost sure it is.
Speaker 1That is crazy that it is.
Speaker 5Have you? Have you had it? No?
Speaker 1I've never had it.
Speaker 5I don't know anyone that has.
Speaker 1I've had it like in slice, yeah, like right there.
Speaker 2What does it taste like? Oh, I guess it's not in the shape it's not too bad.
Speaker 4Good, yeah, I like it, it just looks like a normal loaf.
Speaker 2Yeah, it looks like a loaf.
Speaker 5Yeah, okay, maybe I'll try it.
Speaker 2See, that's what I don't get, because I was vegetarian for a lot of years too. But I don't get when vegan food is shaped like the actual food.
Speaker 5Yeah, that bums me out.
Speaker 4Yeah, or they invoke the image of the animal that they're replacing like because they just want you to think that you're still eating it. I find it very bizarre.
Speaker 1Or when they do, they also have chicken wings, but they're like tied to like a stick Instead of a bone. It's like a wooden stick. Oh my God, I never seen that, yeah.
Speaker 5Well, they're trying to appeal to like the guy whose doctor told him he can't eat meat anymore.
Speaker 3True, and so he's gonna try the different proteins not to the people who originally just roast out by meat.
Speaker 2But no shade on vegan food. I like vegan food.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, me too.
Speaker 2I just don't like it to look like a steak or a whole chicken.
Speaker 1Right, that's actually one of my favorite foods. Like. If a restaurant has a vegan option, I tend to try to go to that option before anything else.
Speaker 5I get that.
Speaker 1I don't know. I just like it. I enjoy it. It's so creative.
Speaker 5Exactly.
Speaker 1Right like there's nothing like a vegan chef that makes a cuisine that's completely creative.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1Right, like there's so many ingredients to go along with it, but it's just crazy and it tastes fresh.
Speaker 5A lot of it's raw and they're trying like if it's a good vegan chef. They're really trying hard to add a lot of flavor and yeah, I'm with you, it's my favorite food too.
Speaker 4I'm just too lazy to cook like that.
Speaker 5It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work, so much work preparation, yeah, but it's delicious but it's delicious.
Speaker 1So how much let's describe so. Wait, think Fast is a musical group. If people don't know you, we're gonna get to know you today. So tell us a little bit about your music and how you guys got started. Well, it's a long running project.
Speaker 3Okay, yes.
Speaker 5And so it's basically Matthew and I who write all the music, and we have different friends play with us our drummer, tom King, sometimes Blankton.
Speaker 4Mark Jula helps out on bass.
Speaker 5Sean Stance I mean just like various musicians from around LA will play with us, will play on records or join us on stage sometimes, but it's mostly Matthew and I.
Speaker 4But going back, I mean, if you think about it, we started it in 2006 in Echo Park.
Speaker 5Yeah, so we've been doing it for a while. And Paulo is there, paulo Quintero, who's now super, fly Cumbia DJ the mucho crew Nice.
Speaker 1So have you guys always played music separately?
Speaker 4Matthew, You've always been playing music. Yeah, I started playing drums when I was in God third grade.
Speaker 1Wow.
Speaker 4Yeah, my dad got a drum set and he put it in the basement and my brothers weren't interested in it, but I was like whoa.
Speaker 1What is it? Can I swear on the show?
Speaker 4I don't want to, but I just realized I was not sure. And then I looked at you and I was like cause I was gonna go in there? And I was like this is fucking cool. Yeah, he bought this drum set and I just went down there and I was like, oh, and then the Violent Femmes record came out and I was the first one on my block who learned how to play the drums to all those songs on that record.
Speaker 3And who is?
Speaker 4that Violent Femmes really cool band from the 80s.
Speaker 2Okay, I'm checking out, but you might know some of their songs because they're kind of, you know, remember, I'm sure he does, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4So that was like I just taught myself how to play drums and I was like oh, what about you? You're classically trained.
Speaker 5Well, I started playing the piano when I was five. I played my whole life, and still do, and then, but I always. I was also an only child, so I was very. I'd have a sister, but she was in, born 2011.
Speaker 2I have to say that I was an only child. Jeanette, I see you.
Speaker 5Jeanette, I love you, I see you, but when I was five, I was an only child. You got it, yeah.
Speaker 4That's a fair point 11 years is a long time.
Speaker 1Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 4Yeah, you kind of get to claim it for those years. She didn't too, because she was a I love you.
Speaker 5Jeanette, because, yeah, so before my sister Jeanette was born, I was an only child and so playing piano by myself, always by myself. I was really fascinated by bands and because it seemed like a sisterhood, brotherhood, and I thought I don't classical piano, I wanna be in a band. So, like my life's goal was just to be in a band one day, nothing more than that, not like play Carnegie Hall or whatever. I just wanted to have to make music with other people that just always see and playing piano. I don't know how to do that, you know. So I'd played keyboards and bands and then I played keyboards for a long time and eventually nobody wants to be the singer in the first bands that you form.
Speaker 4That was true.
Speaker 5At least was my experience. So I became the default singer and I was like, oh, I like singing.
Speaker 4But you, but we were driving around in Echo Park before we'd started playing music together and she was playing in another group and she put a demo on of a song she did with them and you were embarrassed of it and you're like oh, you're like this is the one that I sing on and I remember you putting it on the CD player in the car.
Speaker 5Shy about it, I wasn't embarrassed.
Speaker 4I was like I remember. I was like you got a good voice. Well, thank you, yeah that was kind of a cool moment. But wait, should I tell really quickly how we met, cause I think it's kind of fun.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 4So she was in another band and they were looking for a guitarist and we had a common friend who brought us, who brought me, to go rehearse and audition for them in downtown LA. So we met in downtown LA in a rehearsal space. When I walked in and I didn't like the band very much but I thought Jacqueline was really cute, so I hung around till I got her phone number and then I quit. And then our first kind of date. You were like why'd you quit my band?
Speaker 5Okay, oh yeah. You were angry though, but then, but then yours.
Speaker 1This is a tell all.
Speaker 4We're going to break up today too.
Speaker 5Damn it, it's getting serious the rise and fall of Good job guys, but then, years later, I got you back.
Speaker 4I got you back, I got you back into the band, oh yeah. Then we yeah, cause we started our own project later.
Speaker 1Yeah, so you guys been playing music for a very long time.
Speaker 5Yeah, like over 15 years.
Speaker 1Jacqueline, what do you think it was that need to? I just want to be in a band. Where do you think that comes from? Cause I know it was kind of joking at the beginning about me being a, me wanting to be a musician. It actually really happened. Like I played guitar for years, I played drums, I can play the bass. I've always wanted to start something, but it just never, never, never happened. I kind of just like I kind of gave up on it.
Speaker 5Well, there needs to be a little bit of magic to it.
Speaker 5You know like every time I watch any Beatles documentary I just I always get this feeling like this is just some alchemy, because they're so like for all those things to line up, for those boys, you know, and the way they look and the way they sounded together, and the John and Paul, the way they they would write together and compliment each other and just endure each other. I just thought like they just had to be like a little touch of magic to all of that lining up and then them wanting to and the, you know, sustaining that, and I think that was one of the things that always, because I I made music by myself, I made, you know, I played classical piano and I made gorgeous music, arguably some of the most gorgeous, fulfilling music there is. But then I would watch these kids just like on stage, these bands on stage, with just like a guitar and drums and they look so free and it looks so joyful and I thought I want some of that. That's my answer to it.
Speaker 4What do you think? I just thought it was like the most romantic thing you could do get in a van with your friends and travel and play music. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1There's something about it that's just so appealing. Yeah, it looks fun yeah.
Speaker 5And it makes people happy.
Speaker 1Right, you know if you're good at it, or even if you're not good at it it's just a joy.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's the best. Matt always said that's the best a human, the best of us like the opposite of violence, like one of the best things we want to do.
Speaker 4Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's like the purest form of of art because it involves, like your body. You're listening, you're you're, you're feeling it, you're seeing it on stage unravel.
Speaker 4Yeah, for a couple of minutes, you know. Yeah, that was a cool way of putting it. Yeah, it is magic.
Speaker 5Uh-huh, I think so.
Speaker 1Dang. Then I sucked at being a musician. I needed magic. That's what I need.
Speaker 5But it's also really hard. It's like an endurance too, like you have to just stick, you know.
Speaker 1You're thinking about all these different, like what goes through your mind, when, when you guys are playing, I can talk from a stand-up point of view and it's like, granted, I'm barely just jumping into this crazy sport, but it must be crazy because you guys are have like an actual instrument, right that you're I don't know.
Speaker 2What are you thinking?
Speaker 1Let me get this chord right, and then you're looking at the audience and then, because it's the audience and you love it as you ate earlier that day, you know what I mean, right. There's a lot to think about.
Speaker 4Yeah what a cool question. I mean, I think honestly that if you are thinking about something that's specific, like that, you're probably not playing very well. When you're playing well. Your mind really empties. I mean it is I hate this very pretentious, but it is like a meditation.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's a state.
Speaker 4You know it's a state when you're playing well and for me, it takes me a while to have a lot of rehearsal to get to that state. Because if I'm not rehearsed, I'm like, oh, fuck me, I'm with the chord. What's next?
Speaker 5Yeah, I think, I think if I'm thinking about anything, or if I'm thinking about the song or the chords and how to play, then that's going to be bad. You've got, I got to get myself to the point where that's just I know it so well, so we'll rehearse that. That's second nature, and then it you just go wherever.
Speaker 2That's crazy how your mind and your body goes, almost like on autopilot right. It's like it's like that whole thing where they say like you're driving home, and then you're home and you're like how did I get here? Like you blank out, pretty much not blank out, but you know you're kind of on autopilot and that's kind of what it sounds like, that you kind of go somewhere else. That's not like the present reality and that's amazing that your mind and body can do that.
Speaker 1It's this strange phenomenon that happens when you're playing, because you're it's all that muscle memory from just practicing over a long period of time.
Speaker 4There's a great Paul McCartney interviewer. He talks about someone coming up to him and saying like how can you play those baselines and sing like that together, like, and it was like where is it coming from in your recesses of your mind? And he just looks at the person and he goes oh, practice.
Speaker 3And that's it I mean to hear.
Speaker 4Paul McCartney say that to me was pretty illuminating. I was like, yeah, he just puts the fucking hours in and does it. Yeah.
Speaker 1Have you guys heard the new Beatles song? Isn't that crazy? After like 200 years like they're still they still have a song that comes out on Spotify.
Speaker 4It's wild. I loved it. I was kind of moved by it.
Speaker 1I haven't heard it yet.
Speaker 4Oh, that's really good, is it?
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4I think did you like it.
Speaker 3I liked it.
Speaker 5I think it's sweet and a little bit sad. It's funny that we're talking about the Beatles so much. It's funny that we're talking about it, but I think we were just rewatching some documentary. Oh yeah, and we're also just, we just love them. But yeah, it's a testament to were we talking about.
Speaker 3We're talking about music, the new song, sorry, I wanna ask too, though.
Speaker 4I mean, I love, I think, stand up. Comedian. Comedians are amazing. It seems like a primal fear for me to get up in front of a group of people with no instrument and just a microphone and like your imagination is what you're delivering to the people. You should tell me about it. That sounds terrifying.
Speaker 5What do you think about? Are you thinking about the water of your?
Challenges and Rewards of Performing Live
Speaker 1Yeah, the reason why I ask is because recently I've been taking walks and just practicing my five minutes and walking and plugging in keywords. I spent like one day on researching how to memorize, because memorization for me is just it's a work like it's work and I need to get better at it, because usually I have my set and keywords for each joke. I write it down on like a set list and I feel pretty cool going up on stage and I have my paper and I throw it down on the floor. But I record myself and I'm always constantly looking down at like, okay, what's my next joke? I kinda wanna move away from that. I'm using that as a crutch right now.
Speaker 1So for me it's like the order right. But then I thought about it and I think now if I memorize my jokes, I can put them in every order, like I can switch them up. If I'm listening to the crowd and oh, they think this is funny, okay, well, let me take this joke out and hit them with this. So I think I'm listening to the audience to see what they're reacting to, and it's every room is different. And that's what I'm finding out right now is every room is different, every audience is different. Some laugh at this joke more than they laugh at this joke. So I'm moving these puzzles around.
Speaker 1And last night which I was super proud of myself, was it not last night? No, monday this week I was at an open mic and we were the stage. Well, it was really a stage, but the spot was next to a bar and they were like making drinks. So it was like noisy and you just have to know when to pause and know when to stop. It's just it's crazy and I love it because it's you're performing in front of people and you kind of have to. You have to just go with it. I don't know, it's just it's wild. For me. It's just weird, it just rush for five minutes. Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 4And the keywords there. You can just see those and in your mind you the whole joke or the whole delivery is ready to go, just by seeing the key words.
Speaker 1And then plus delivery too, is totally different, because when I first started, I had my jokes written out on a paper and I was just reading them and I wasn't looking at the crowd, I wasn't doing anything, I was just reading the jokes and listening to them. Okay, that's funny.
Speaker 3I yeah, I did, that's how.
Speaker 4I started.
Speaker 3That's cool man.
Speaker 1Yeah right.
Speaker 4Remember Amber. Yeah, I had him. I had him, hello everybody.
Speaker 1I had him on my phone. Hi, my name is Gil. I was like hey.
Speaker 2I am a comedian.
Speaker 1Hello, welcome to Soy. Funny and I just I read him and then paused Okay, you guys don't like that one.
Speaker 4Okay, literally wait, it was part of the stick actually.
Speaker 1No, oh, you were going like okay, don't like this one. Okay, yeah, I was reading it.
Speaker 4That sounds like you put the work in, though I'm serious, yeah, that's pretty, that's ballsy.
Speaker 1You have to.
Speaker 5You know that's harder too, Cause I, if I forget my lyrics, I just go like, yeah, she be, be, be. You know, I can just kind of play it off, yeah. What if you forget your jokes.
Speaker 4I always try and be funny when we're doing shows between songs, cause I think. I'm an aspiring comedian and failing at it. But what I have is that if the joke bombs and everyone's like silent which probably happens a lot- I can just lay into the guitar Ba-na-na-no, yeah, and you got them back. Yeah, yeah, feel the silence with music and then start the next song.
Speaker 1I like, I like, I like when that happens, when it's silent, because I feel, cause I I bring them back right. That usually happens.
Speaker 4Amber, it's like. It's like the challenge of a joke hitting the silence. Oh my God seriously.
Speaker 1Yeah, Usually it's. I think with practicing with this podcast is improv, Like I get to like if, if it becomes silent, I just there's a switch that I need to turn on. Okay, I need to bring these guys back into my pocket.
Speaker 2And then I'm sitting in the crowd sweating profusely. My stomach's turned and I'm like nervous. I'm a nervous wreck seeing him. I can't like.
Speaker 3I.
Speaker 2I. I take all of his nerves and that's okay cause I can handle it, but I'm sitting there like I'm. I feel very nervous right now just hearing about.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's hurting. I don't know how he does it.
Speaker 2I don't know. I don't know how anyone that performs, even you guys that perform music, anything getting in front of people is like it makes my knees want to buckle.
Speaker 5I used to hate it, and when it's bad, it's bad, it's the worst feeling Really. I haven't had that in a long time but, yeah.
Speaker 4Like what was our worst show ever. I don't want to try to remember.
Speaker 5I don't want to make myself feel bad, but was.
Speaker 2Was it bad because of like like your performance was bad or the circumstances, like the like the venue?
Speaker 1was bad. There's a lot of different variables.
Speaker 2You don't have to tell you, don't have to relive it, but what? What do you think in your mind would constitute as, like it, being bad?
Speaker 4Circumstances probably.
Speaker 5I think if, like I get, let myself get in my own head. Okay, I'll say I. This was like a long, long time ago. I remember seeing somebody walk out of the room that we were playing in.
Speaker 1Whoa.
Speaker 5And it really hurt my feelings and I thought, and then the rest of the performance was like what happened? Why did they walk out Like are we?
Speaker 4terrible they might have. They might have had diarrhea, you just don't know.
Speaker 5I know Probably had nothing to do with me, cause I've also seen people.
Speaker 2Their grandmother was passing or something. Thank you, I've also seen people just like arms crossed, like watching me and then afterwards they'll come up and be like.
Speaker 5I loved that that was so great and I was like, really, you look like you were about to shoot me, but thank you.
Speaker 4Well, la. La, you get a lot of the like.
Speaker 1I'm in a band, my roommate's in a band.
Speaker 4My mom's in a band. My mom's in a band.
Speaker 5But those are good experiences, because then no person can make me feel bad anymore. Cause I know that it's never, it's all in my head, but that's the thing, like if you get in your head, that can make it.
Speaker 2It makes total sense that that would happen and I think that that's where my fear of performing or cause I've done stuff like from like my family's business. You know, we've been on the news a couple of times. We've had articles written, things like that, where I've had to do it, but it was out of because I had to, not because I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1And sometimes your sister would be like I don't want to do this interview, why don't you do?
Speaker 2it.
Speaker 1Yeah, or your. Your Spanish is way better than mine in it.
Speaker 2This is it was out of necessity, but it's not my. I don't get a kick out of it Like Gil does. Gil gets his rush like right after he's done and then we're driving home and he's like super talkative and amps up and then he's like laying in bed and he's like I can't go to sleep, Can't go to sleep.
Speaker 4Can't go to sleep after. Yeah, that's not. And the next stage you have that kind of glow like you did something pretty, you know, cool the night before.
Speaker 3I love that.
Speaker 1Yeah, I do, but as of recently maybe because I'm doing it more and my personality is very addictive I get this kind of like low.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1Like it dips, like I get this huge rush of dopamine and then it's gone and it's like, okay, fuck, I need to find another stage. I should just set up a mic on the side of the street and work out my new material. I feel like that's.
Speaker 5Well, during the pandemic, we did a show in our backyard for, like the few people we knew, who we knew weren't like trying to be what you know, who we thought wouldn't give us COVID, and it was like people in our backyard with masks or you know, separated. But it was something, because you're just dying to connect with people. It was a good show, it was awesome. I loved it. That's cool.
Performing and Learning in the Arts
Speaker 4I should do it again. Do you get before you perform? Do you get like, what state are you in a couple of hours before you go on stage?
Speaker 1I am just, I have tunnel vision, so I'm just okay, I have to do this five minutes. And then I'm also thinking about, okay, when I get there, are they gonna tell me to cut it down to three, cause that's happened before. It happened on the competition which I was had my five minutes and they're like I asked them the guy that was hosting it, how many minutes are we all getting? He's like three and I'm like, fuck, like you guys should have told me, like I was genuinely kind of irritated about that. But he was like if you're gonna get into comedy, you go to a club. They're gonna tell you this. So get used to it, dude, yeah.
Speaker 5All right cool. Or like some big star or something shows up and they bump you.
Speaker 1Right, right, who knows, but it was a good learning curve. I cut out tags, I cut out one big joke and it worked out well. Like I was right at three minutes and boom, and I ended up winning the competition. So it was cool.
Speaker 5Congratulations yeah.
Speaker 1But yeah, I feel Like zoned in, like I'm just I'm ready to do it. I'm ready to do it once I get on stage. Whether I kill or bomb doesn't matter, it's all a learning curve. I'm still very fairly new at this art, so it's like I kind of take Whatever happens to me as an experience and try to learn from it.
Speaker 4I don't think you ever. Yeah, I think that's like goes on forever.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4I think I mean I mean talked to a lot of musicians who are, you know, long into their careers. It's just, that's the, that's the healthiest way to to do it, I think that approach it right. Yeah, you never like I'm arrived, man, like I got this. Yeah, I'm not nervous before the show. I've nothing left to learn. I think that would kind of suck, don't you? Or you want to be at that state.
Speaker 5Yeah, well, sometimes I won't get like. If I feel super ready or super excited about it, I don't get nervous and I I'm grateful for those shows where it's just very just go with the flow, like our backyard show. Yeah, that's cool, yeah does?
Speaker 2does music? I mean, obviously music evolves, right, there's always, it's always evolved and new music comes out, new things come out. But, as a musician like, is there always something new to learn, or is it just you know the basics and you're able to adapt Whenever change might hit you, or things like that?
Speaker 4That's a cool question. I think I am happiest when we're when I'm doing something I haven't done before. Maybe scares me a little bit, and for me I've been singing a lot more lately and I kind of started as a drummer and then guitarist and so singing's even still I Don't do it as much, but that's. I love that always. Something should scare you a little bit.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, I think there's so much music and there's so much To learn. There's. For me, there's always something new to learn or pick up another instrument, or Sometimes I'll go like jazz has always been my kind of Moby dick, whereas I'd love to be a really great jazz improviser on the piano and every once well back. Okay, go watch some of these, like all the YouTube. You can find everything on YouTube, like you can find Some really amazing jazz pianists give lessons or like talk about chord voicings and, and I can get lost on that forever. So I'd say, yes, there's always something you you can learn, or just like if you're a singer, like these new songs that we're working on I really I've been doing duets and Just how to voice more than one voice or more than two voices and how to write for that. It's endless and it's fascinating.
Speaker 2Dang, that's cool. Yeah, I tried my hand at instruments and it was not for me, no, no, my, my parents would. It was my sister and I, so you know, it's just two of us and it was easy to Be involved in our activities and my sister was always more Active, so she danced, she was a cheerleader, things like that. So I was trying to find what I wanted to do because I wasn't as Active as she was. So I started out with piano and I remember they took me to this like really nice piano class and and you know, I had this lady and I think she was like Dutch I still remember her she's so we're like really really long dress and she was like like like, did she wear wooden clogs?
Speaker 2No, I don't know. I didn't know. You know what she used to be barefoot.
Speaker 3Now that I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2Yeah, cuz, cuz, the place had carpet and then she would just be barefoot and then she would do like two braids, I don't know. She was very whimsical, like she was cool, was she real? She was real, she was. Oh, she was real, real. She didn't wear a deodorant. And I was a kid, I was Six or seven, so every Saturday morning I had to go and then she would like to come like behind me, and then she would put like her arms, like to show like placement of like my hands. So she would like, like my English brain isn't working right now. I want to say my yardmaid, like she would get me dizzy from like, yeah, and I know how to tell my mom, like, hey, my teachers be always like you know, and I Again.
Speaker 2maybe it was just she didn't wear deodorant, it wasn't her thing.
Speaker 5I think it was a polyester long dress.
Speaker 2I don't know what it was. But I Started like, little by little I was like I don't want to go and then I would like miss one day. And then my mom was like but we already paid for it and I never told her until I was an adult why it was that I stopped. And I didn't want to be rude, I didn't want to hurt her feelings, I didn't want her to go and tell the teacher or something you know. So I, just I, I gave.
Speaker 5This is the most tragic end of a musical life story I've ever heard.
Speaker 2Try again and no and then I tried the drums, yeah, cool, and they bought me a drum set for Christmas. My parents would go all out because they thought I was all in, and then it would only last a couple months.
Speaker 4So the drums? You didn't connect with the drums. No, yeah.
Speaker 2My mom always wanted to be a drummer and it was her lifelong dream. So she was like, yeah, let's do it and we'll put you in this will buy you this. And it just wasn't for me. But then I found what I really liked. I like cooking.
Speaker 2So for me my art is Cooking and baking, and and that's what it was, and I thought for a lot like for a lot of years, I was really discouraged because I was like man, I can't, like I'm not playing an instrument like I yeah, what's my thing like, what's my thing in life?
Speaker 1What am I? What? Is what do I get to do?
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly and then I started realizing, hey, like I, when we go over to my grandma's house, my cousins are playing, you know, outside and over there and I'm here in the kitchen, you know, learning from her or helping her. And and that's when I started to realize, okay, this is, this is what I like, this is what I want to do.
Speaker 4It's an art form? Yeah, and it makes you really happy.
Speaker 2Yeah, good Makes people really happy.
Speaker 5Yeah, I can't cook, I can't cook, no, oh you can.
Speaker 4You made chickpea tacos last night and they were amazing.
Speaker 5I can follow a recipe, I can put things together, but, like you know those people who are like oh, there's a banana and garlic in the refrigerator. Let me make something amazing.
Speaker 2Yeah, I have some of those two for you.
Beauty Standards and Plastic Surgery Discussion
Speaker 5That's, that's. I'm really um. You know, I have that kind of cooking and maybe one day I like vegan cooking.
Speaker 1I when when I was vegan I that's what I liked about it. I like the cooking because it was very creative. Yeah, yeah, yeah you know it's easy to just boil chicken or a cook a steak like it's it's not that easy.
Speaker 2Yeah, it is, yeah, but it's gonna be bland.
Speaker 1What are you trying to say?
Speaker 4Should we leave?
Speaker 1We're about to fist fire. We're about to witness domestic violence.
Speaker 4No, I'm suddenly having a lot of anxiety whether or not I put deodorant on. Seriously, that right when you said.
Speaker 2No, no, no, no, no. I can, I can handle. I can handle a little bit. This is like a lot.
Speaker 1That is so funny. Like how many other kids does she teach, do you know? A lot that they all fail too, because I don't know. It was like a common denominator, like I'm pretty sure if she reported to like a corporate or something Like why are all her kids failing at piano?
Speaker 2I think she owned like what's the common denominator here. It's still there. I don't know if she's still there.
Speaker 4She might be listening.
Speaker 2I know, see, I didn't say anything because I didn't want to hurt your feelings the details in that story, though the Barefoot the braids, yeah, armpits the things that you remember when you're a child.
Speaker 4Yeah, those really like cinematically told. Thank you.
Speaker 1Thanks. So so what yeah, I was gonna ask him what color of carpet in your mind is. It was beige beige. Okay, it's stained mind is like a, like a red yellow, like like a Like spots, you know, like that old grayish 90s carpet. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's what I got. What color is it?
Speaker 2Okay, it was green with hints of beige, like that, like, but just you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1Like the old school 90s.
Speaker 2Yeah, like spotted checky cheese Rug. Oh, we're not gonna talk about her anymore.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 2I don't know where she's at in life right now. She was a great, great teacher and a great musician. I think that's why we find she had a lot more On top of me than just her pits. I'm not a musician. She was.
Speaker 1No wonder you have shoulder issues. This is, I think this is why we take interest in talking to musicians, because Amber and I, we love music. I Failed horribly at it and I just I like talking to musicians.
Speaker 4Like it's, there's different brains for different I don't know Activities and it's interesting to talk to you feel like if you meet someone, Can you tell if they're a musician before they've told you. There are musicians Common characteristic I don't know, I don't think so sometimes I feel like, yeah, if someone tells me like I play, I'm like oh yeah, I knew I had a feeling.
Speaker 5You always get the thing where people come up to you and go like your musician, aren't you? I'm gonna band on to.
Speaker 4It's the tall skinniness.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I can see that. That's why I failed.
Speaker 2Me too.
Speaker 5No, I'm not tall nor.
Speaker 4I'm telling you space for everybody, space for everybody. Yeah, that's funny, but I look like the lead singer of the cars.
Speaker 1Maybe you know you know what, you know what really grinds my gears and I'll say this right now because of that, sat was a samurai, for something like that is when there's good-looking comedians like that, when there's good-looking comics, and I'm just like you, motherfucker. This is the only thing that I had Good-looking mother effort.
Speaker 5For you know what I mean. Who's a good-looking comedian?
Speaker 1right here in front of us yes, besides. Look up that, that dude that's trending right now. Look up the guy that's trending right now Sam riff, sam right.
Speaker 4I read this story about him this morning. Yeah, yeah. I read the story controversy yeah, he did something kind of controversial. Oh, he did.
Speaker 2Yeah, he.
Speaker 4I guess he said some Well it's a bullet Google.
Speaker 2What's his name?
Speaker 1So our IFF, I think our.
Speaker 2I.
Speaker 4Was rife.
Speaker 1This is music musical artist All right, is it Sam? Rife. Oh, there we go. Oh, oh, it's Matt. Yeah, I don't know how I set it up. Look at that guy. Look at how good looking he is. He's got like cheekbones His cheekbones. He has a chin one. He's very fit. Look at that. Oh, come on Fillers, everything. What the heck? Yeah, this is the special he lifts weights.
Speaker 5What's fillers? You're not-.
Speaker 1Lip fillers. Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 2But they could also fill in your chin Pull them on.
Speaker 1Put them on the screen.
Speaker 2I forgot it wasn't on. What do they say? You're not ugly, you're just poor.
Speaker 1Damn, that's what they say. I'm gonna sell one of these microphones to get the lip filler An arm filler.
Speaker 2Okay, he's handsome.
Speaker 4You don't say anything, you're just nodding your head.
Speaker 1handsome, Look it come on, mic drop Dude. Come on, bro, it's a safe space. You can say he looks good, I mean-.
Speaker 4Is he good? I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1I'll be curious to hear what you think.
Speaker 5It's irrelevant until we know he's funny.
Speaker 2Right, yeah, yeah maybe he could just be good looking, but not funny.
Speaker 1My thing is that, come on, dude, go play basketball or football or be a model. You're taking this away from all the ugly guys that this is the only thing we have.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1That's my thing.
Speaker 2It was salty.
Speaker 1To each of that, I know I wish I had money for lip fillers. I think that's the problem here, I don't think that's the problem.
Speaker 5Don't do it, you're gonna look crazy.
Speaker 1When you when I win the lottery you'll know. When I win the lottery, You'll be unrecognizable.
Speaker 5You'll be under your lips, I'll just be Don't do it. You'll be like that lady. They call her the cat.
Speaker 4Oh yeah.
Speaker 5Cat woman, like Google always or something, always pulls that lady up for me. I don't know why. What lady? There's some woman. They call her like the cat lady, the cat lady, plastic surgery. There you go.
Speaker 2Where was it Wait? No, no, no.
Speaker 5That's the second one.
Speaker 2Right here, oh, yeah, her.
Speaker 1Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2That's gonna be you, gil.
Speaker 5Don't be Gil.
Speaker 4You're gonna be like am I funny now, oh man.
Speaker 2Aw, I think this I'm gonna see that. It gets to a point where it's more psychological. When it gets to here, for sure, because you Well, look at her right here, see, she was good looking. Wow, she was very good looking, super yeah.
Speaker 1I think it all comes down to I don't want to be old, or I don't want to look old.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1I want to match how I feel.
Speaker 5Or like I don't know, like she was very super beautiful and like Madonna too, and they're just trying to hold on to it.
Speaker 2Yeah, madonna's face is unrecognizable now hey did Tom Cruise do this Does?
Speaker 1anyone know, I think so.
Speaker 4I just watched that new movie, his new Mission Impossible, and I was looking at his face like did he do something.
Speaker 1I think so, yeah, I thought I had something.
Speaker 2There's this couple that I don't know. I found through TikTok, but they're like Mexican. They're known that the woman has like a, like a gr what are they called? Girdles, right Like a paja Girdle right.
Speaker 2Yeah, she has like a girdle, like empire, like she built it from nothing. But anyway she has a husband and she's very good looking and the husband is older than her. So they got married recently and she said that she wanted her husband to match you know her good looks and everything. So she literally submitted him to like surgery and you see his before and he was like like an aging old man, I think. He's like I'm not even lying Like maybe like 80 and you see his face now and he's just like I don't know he looks born again and it's nuts, it's just nuts. I'm new born, I'm going to look the mother, but okay, so here's my question.
Speaker 5So he was an old guy, an older man, gentlemen, who'd never had any plastic surgery, and then, all of a sudden, he got some and he looks great.
Speaker 5I don't think he looks great, but in her brain he looks great, Because I wonder if you're just like a regular aging person in your twenties and thirties, forties, fifties, getting like a regular plastic surgery. I think that's where all the trouble comes from, where you start looking weird from your faceless, because you're not supposed to do it when you're like in your thirties. But I wonder if it's okay if you're like 85 and you're like you know a ton of travel.
Speaker 2Okay, look, so this is him now Okay look at this one.
Speaker 1No, that was him before.
Speaker 2Yeah, I, I well, and this is him now, and you see him, poor little. I keep saying poor little, but he's like like she dresses him up with like really like fitted jeans. And then the other day he had like some combat boots and the poor Viet-Hito was like walking like really slow, like like um, what's the monsters? Like her men monster, you know, he walks like with his big old boots. He was like that because he just can't keep up and I'm just thinking to myself like who is she kidding? Like yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty intense.
Speaker 5Oh my.
Speaker 2God, the soleon, soleon, uh-huh Are they? Where are they from? Uh Mexico, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1He's like the Benjamin Button of.
Speaker 2Mexico yeah, Exactly so por así.
Speaker 5Oh wait, there is. Can you? Can you un-blur that?
Speaker 2Um, I think it's a TikTok.
Speaker 3Oh, my God.
Speaker 4Esposo de Soleon hace un TikTok con ella.
Speaker 2We're all watching her TikTok.
Speaker 5Oh my God, I just want to see what. What's happened to?
Speaker 3the sposo de Soleon, he can't move his face.
Speaker 4He can't move his face.
Speaker 2No, he cannot. No, he cannot move his face.
Speaker 4They seem like a fun couple.
Speaker 2Did they put on their own video que tierno son. No que tiene sol, no que tierno son. She wrote that oh probably.
Speaker 5That's like if we made a video of us being sweet and we wrote they're so sweet, they're so sweet.
Speaker 3Yeah, this one's crazy, I know who.
Speaker 2But yeah, now you know, we always learn something. I'll show it to my mom.
Speaker 1So back to Matt Reif, hold on, was it? Was it him that there's some controversy, or was it somebody?
Speaker 4else. So he I don't want to misrepresent this, but I think he opened his show with a joke about domestic violence, oh, and I think that a lot of his audience was like, nah, not cool. Ah, yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 5Oh, the piece is something about special needs helmets. He's all over the place. Oh, you know what he did the the.
Speaker 4Domestic violence yeah.
Speaker 2So he did the domestic, but I I seen the the special needs helmet one. So what he did was, I guess, after this, a bunch of people you know were trying to cancel him and getting all like you know they were upset and he did, instead of like apologizing or anything like that, he went on his Instagram and he said, if any of my jokes have ever offended you, please click this link. And then you would click on the link and then it was like helmets, like for people with special needs. So then it was even more, because it was like he's not even sorry for what he said and then he's still poking fun on on things like that.
Speaker 1It's exactly what happens when you give a jocks a microphone. I feel that that, that, that's crazy.
Speaker 4And maybe he felt like.
Speaker 1But let me take the domestic violence.
Speaker 3My set Opener.
Speaker 1So there's that and there's a lot going on too With his name is escaping me. But he, he opens for kill Tony, have you heard of that podcast? And Hans Kim, so I guess he made a joke about Matthew Perry like the same week and he just I think he just posted about him being in the New York post about Matthew Perry. But yeah, it's just crazy to see you make a joke on stage and you get all this backlash for it.
Speaker 4And are you kind of saying that you think there's like too much backlash and comedians should have more freedom?
Speaker 1I think so, like if you go on like the the link thing, kind of genius, but he could have done it like a different way maybe, but I don't know, I just it's, it's crazy, I don't know, it's it's comedy, isn't a weird? Weird thing right now, and at least for me, like we had another comedian on the podcast and we're talking and I made a reference to like we were just, we were riffing back and forth, and I made a reference to something, to a race, and he was like ooh, like ooh, you're going to get us canceled. And in my mind I didn't say anything at that time but I was like in my mind I'm like, dude, like we were, we were, you know, riffing, like we were joking, we're going back and forth, but I don't know, it's kind of strange.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think it's hard. It's one of those things where it is hard.
Speaker 1This is what I've learned. I've learned through videos watching people getting canceled. If the pay up, if the laugh over or if the laugh exceeds the premise, then it's a good joke. But if the payoff is not as good as the content, go back and rewrite it, Because I have a Selena joke and-.
Speaker 5What's here no?
Speaker 1Why not? Why not?
Speaker 5Because it-.
Speaker 1Come to my show and you can see it. You can hear it In fairness, that's good, how's it stay?
Speaker 5Are you saving it for your show, or is it too?
Speaker 1No, I use it every time I go out, but it fucking murders.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1So it literally murders, does it?
Speaker 4murder in a crowd that would love Selena Predict. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1Well, because most of the times that I've done it and open mics like it's all Latinos.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1So the reference like they get the reference and I haven't heard anything. Like I posted it online. I had it posted for two weeks. I took it down because I wanted to use it again. So I just took it down, but I don't know it's. I'm surprised I haven't heard anything. But I have three killer jokes that work in most that one's like the top one, Everybody's like damn dude, like I can't believe you fucking use that one, Right, Amber? I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't know. I'm just sitting in the crowd like oh no, fringing. No, no, I don't think it's cause he'll come and give me his set and then I'm the I'll come and be like no, I think it's a little too much, but I think that one's funny. I think it's really funny.
Speaker 5I think you should start incorporating a Selena joke into our in-between song banter the white guy in the band should definitely do a Selena joke. That is.
Speaker 4I actually, and I like Selena.
Speaker 2We do too we like her.
Speaker 1Yeah, so do I.
Speaker 4I didn't grow up with that, but you know, marrying an Argentine well, she's not Argentine, but I learned about that music later in life and it's really good, yeah, and I feel like that's Chico de la apartamento.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, there you go, see. Well, that's my rules.
Speaker 4We should cover that. There you go.
Speaker 5It's so fast, chico, de la apartamento see.
Speaker 1And I think another thing too is like the reason why I like it is because it's untouched, like no one touches that.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1I mean no one touches that person and for me at least, how I write, I like to talk about subjects that people are afraid to talk about.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, so I think that's what, at least I think in my mind, sets me apart, because it's about my life, but also I'm referencing to things that are taboo Is how I explain it.
Speaker 4Have you ever been on stage and tried out something new and, in the moment, been like maybe I shouldn't have gone that far?
Speaker 1Every time with Selena.
Speaker 2Oh really, no, no, I think that's your edgiest that you have. That's the edgiest yeah there's nothing that goes further than that. Well, my sister in math thing, yeah, but I feel like when oh Jesus, I feel like when it's personal, when you reference yourself, it's a little more-. Ooh, that's another thing that I it's easier to do.
Speaker 1So my family's coming to the show on Saturday and I'm battling to whether I should call my aunt and say hey, I have these things about. I talk about my mom, or do I talk about my mom? No, I don't talk about my mom, but I talk about my sister.
Speaker 5I always wonder about like about comedians or about writers Do. How do you do that? How do you get super personal with and then have the family member or close person witness you Blech.
Speaker 2Yeah, talking about it.
Speaker 3I'm gonna find out.
Speaker 1I'm gonna find out on Saturday.
Speaker 3Not that you've asked for my advice, but I would advise not saying a word.
Speaker 5Yeah, I would advise that that's what I told you Just drop the bomb.
Speaker 4Because you're gonna load the moment so much and you might, you know-.
Speaker 1They're like dude, that was it. That's the best you got yeah yeah yeah. I feel like that's. My aunt would say. She's like you're pussy. You should have moved the envelope a little further, dude. Like what the hell's the matter with you? I raised a freaking idiot.
Speaker 2That's what I told him. My advice was don't say anything. It's not. I mean, yeah, you're saying that your sister's on meth, but it's not as bad right, and it's not like it's nothing that the family didn't know or things like that, it's just-.
Speaker 1You know, a big surprise.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2It's comedy. I mean it should be there to. I feel like comedy should make you laugh and feel something, whether it's good, bad, and you know it's comedy.
Speaker 1I feel better. And if they take it a little too at heart, then you know, Don't invite them next time.
Speaker 2No, they should come next time, but Band them from all my shows.
Speaker 1You're banned, but what about your music? What do you guys write about, like? How does the writing process go?
Speaker 5Well, I tend to write the lyrics to everything, and it goes about everything from To the thunderstorm or something.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, those are dogs.
Speaker 5From everything from actually, right now we're finishing. One of the songs we're working on for this new batch of songs is about Miriam Marks, Groucho Marks' daughter. So it's either some character that's interested me, or personal stuff, or just whatever is running around in my head, or we have a. So the song that we're gonna perform today actually is very, very personal, which is kind of fair because it's about it's a love song. It's like my first love song. It's about family. So what do you? What would you say?
Speaker 4Well, you write the lyrics, so I mean as far as that's concerned. But yeah, you write all about a lot of all kinds of things. Whatever's on your mind, you write about it.
Speaker 5Yeah, and I usually the stuff that I love is the music that I love or the lyrics that I love are usually about anything from like a very small detail to like a war, I mean, you know, just like really vast subjects.
Speaker 4You should talk about Vamos Juntoso. That was a song we put out last month which has been out.
Speaker 5Yeah, and so we just put out a song called Vamos Juntos in September and that's a duet with my friend, ceci Bastida, and who's also a very wonderful singer, musician and she. That song is kind of like a love. It's kind of what we were talking about, that I feel very lucky that I've had this very strong thing passion, love in my life of music and it's kind of a love song for anybody who's kind of been down with me through the years to like go to every show, like be a music fanatic. Any DJ, like obscure DJ, who's like always hunting for music or playing our music, the people that come to our shows, just all of the characters that are that fuel this kind of tornado of art and creativity. I'm so grateful for that and that's what Vamos Juntos is about. That Vamos Juntos Massacha is like the place beyond where all this takes you so you can get out.
Speaker 5It's a magical place where it takes you yeah.
Creation of the Song "Free Skate"
Speaker 1Wow, that's cool. So how should we do it? Should you guys play the song and then talk about it, or talk about the song and then play it? What do you think?
Speaker 4Oh, why don't we play it? And actually I'm curious to hear you talk about it after we play it.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4It's lyrically.
Speaker 2We have a special treat.
Speaker 1Yes, exactly A special treat for our mind buzz listeners. People, there we go, go front yeah.
Speaker 3Okay, let's give it a nice day, okay, yep.
Speaker 1Yeah, whenever you guys are ready.
Speaker 3One two, three, four. One, two, three, four Us at the wildfire, driving late night chasing open sky, did you think?
Speaker 3could this lightning doesn't lie to me before you conjure all of this. If I light up the way, the way, the way, well, I'd be in your way, away, away. It's a long, long road. Don't think I don't know it. Peace, peace, be there when I go dark. I give my heart to this life. We break from equal lines of courage. All in peace, stay with me, all Always. Faith, spin and dance me out. Feel the same as nothing. We're mountains of time.
Speaker 1Kisses.
Speaker 3Under palm trees, palm trees like fathers, life houses in dirt. If I show you the way, the way, the way, well, I'd stand in your way, away, away. It's a long, long road. Don't think I don't know it. Peace, peace be there when I go dark. I give my heart to this life. We break from equal lines of courage. All in peace, stay with me, all Always. And I wish, I wish, I wish away, and I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish away. It's a long, long road, don't think I don't know it. Peace, be there when my life swells. I give my heart to this life. We break from equal lines of courage. Oh, peace when I wish and I wish, I wish and I wish Always. Yay, gracias.
Speaker 1Gracias, that was great Thank you Loved it, so what was that called?
Speaker 5That's called Free Skate.
Speaker 1Free Skate.
Speaker 5Yes, it's our brand new single we just put out.
Speaker 1Oh nice, so break that down for me. Where were you? Did you make it over time? Did you write it over time? Core progression, all that good stuff.
Speaker 4So I wrote the music during quarantine and it was not a good time for anyone and I loved it. I thought the chords were really soothing.
Speaker 1I like them.
Speaker 4There was no lyrics to it yet. They're very simple, sweet chords which we don't do a lot of, and we'd never written a song in D, which is actually one of the most common keys to write a song in. But it was actually one of our first, so the music actually was soothing and I think you must have heard it coming from the studio.
Speaker 1So the music came first before the lyrics In this instance.
Speaker 5Yeah, that's usually the way it's been going lately For a long time.
Speaker 4I think I wrote the music on piano too. There's no guitars in the actual recording. Oh okay, there's a lap steel in the very beginning, but there's no acoustic guitar in things. It's kind of fun to do it like this. It's much different than the record.
Speaker 1So the record has piano. Yeah, it's the main instrument.
Speaker 4Jack actually played the piano on it, though you performed it for the recording, which is really pretty.
Speaker 5Yeah, I mean we record and we write at home, we throw everything on the songs, but it's also really fun to strip it down and just play it acoustically as well, and so usually one of us will come up with a progression. In this instance it was Matthew came up with the music first, and then I just kind of start singing and then maybe, like, some words will come to me While I'm singing and then I turn it in. I just have to sing it a lot Like I have to sing it over and over and over and find, and then when I go to record, it is when I really fine tune lyrics and voicings and but the opening line is us at the wildfire and I think the lyrics started in September of 21, and that's when the horrible fires Up in the you know where in Claremont's.
Speaker 4We're close to them. I remember it was just you couldn't go outside. It was awful.
Speaker 5Yeah, so it was. It was a, we were in a pandemic. There was also there were riots all over and there were forest fires, so we couldn't even go outside. And I just and remember when it looked like the sun was glowing orange and you could just look, so and I think Ruth Bader Ginsburg died during that time too, that night, and I was like that was going on.
Speaker 5Stuck in the house and I, just I really I felt like I wanted to just get in my car and drive away to the clear skies with my family. But you know, it's just kind of a testament to Me and my family just sticking through it and all the things you go through as your little clan, you know, as your little pod and People for them.
Speaker 4I like that line in there. That's we break from equal lines of courage and I sing it with you, but I don't know what it means. Explain yourself. He's like I want to know, I want to know. I really like that line.
Speaker 5Just kind of. I think that you tend to connect with Mary people are, you know, getting long-term relationships with people who are hopefully maybe, I feel like you and I are have the same amount of courage, just enough, you know, we're never gonna fly off the handle and like evil can evil it off, like cliff or something, but but I think we're also trying to be brave and I and that's a big, that's a big deal to me I find myself always saying, either to myself or to people like, have courage, have courage. Like either just to get through this thing I'm sure you understand that very well doing what you do, being a comedian, or getting through a global pandemic when there's the earth is burning around you, just have courage, you know. And if you're, if you're lucky enough to be in a companionship with someone matched and and was as hard as brave as yours, then you're very lucky.
Speaker 4Wow yeah.
Speaker 1That's beautiful Do you do, you feel all this when, when you're like writing Like what's that man?
Speaker 5I'm a live wire, I'm a raw bone. I feel everything all the time.
Speaker 3Oh, yeah when she's in that mode Really.
Speaker 4Beware, tread lightly.
Speaker 3You know what I'm talking about. When you get like that, it's cool, I like it. When you're like that.
Speaker 4I don't know what you're talking about. Just, you get really on sometimes when you're when you're doing lyrics or or about to perform a difficult piano part for one of our recordings or something, and you're just like okay close the door.
Speaker 5Oh sorry, I'm just focused.
Speaker 3Yeah right, it's the focus.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's the focus, it's cool, it's a good state to be in.
Speaker 2We're just a lot hashing it out tonight.
Speaker 1I know, this is on the podcast.
Speaker 4This is like marriage therapy.
Speaker 2But I, I I can see Gil like that too. Gil gets like that too, like I know.
Speaker 1That's what I was yesterday.
Speaker 2I know Like he gets like on I don't want to say on edge, but it's very like.
Speaker 1I don't cut you short, I you know what I mean. Like when you ask me something on them in that mode, I'm just like yes, okay, all right, I'll do it. Right now I'm doing something.
Speaker 4Is this your like? Focus, your writing kind of?
Speaker 1Or I'm I'm getting ready, or I'm getting ready that for that night, yeah, well, if your mind is focused it.
Speaker 5I don't know about you guys, but for me it like hurts my head. It hurts me if you knock me out of my room where I am where I'm focusing on.
Speaker 4It's so cool we have two tiny children Because that never happens with them.
Speaker 5Well, I got, I get used to it when, when, when that happens. But like if, when you're not expecting it and it's just, I mean, I'm always expecting them to come in and ask need me? But if you're just like really focused on something, I've always been very jumpy. Like if I'm writing or thinking or playing and somebody like, hey, you want a donut. I'm like, yeah, and Matt's always like why are you jumping?
Speaker 5Why are you jumping? I live here, I live here, I'm just focused. I didn't know you were going to ask me something.
Speaker 2It makes sense, though, yeah.
Speaker 1You get in that, you get in that groove, you get in that state right and at that point I'm like all right, bye. See you later.
Speaker 2Yeah, all if you need me. There's nothing else you can do, yeah there's not.
Speaker 4I was about to record a really difficult guitar part on something the other day and my six year old my youngest one came knocked on my door and she came in big eyes and just like Papa will you build a puzzle with me? And I was like but I was in the state and I've never felt more ripped into than that moment. She was so cute and she just wanted to work on a puzzle with me. I'm not going to lie, I put my guitar down. She got me that moment.
Speaker 5Dang yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, from time to time You're a good, papa.
Speaker 5You always, you always stop for them.
Speaker 4She's not going to always be knocking on my door with those big brown eyes at six and want to build a puzzle with dad.
Speaker 2you know, and those are the things that she's going to remember, because if you would have said no, she would have been like. Well, I remember when you were always really busy with your music and you didn't have time for me.
Speaker 4Yeah, you have that fear as a parent that she's going to log that moment in her mind.
Speaker 2Oh, she will.
Speaker 4Wait till I'm 16.
Speaker 2She's going to find something. Yeah, yeah, she will throw something. You could be the best parent in the world, and they're going to find something.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, we all did. I'm counting on it, yeah.
Speaker 2But if you're, you're um, I feel like like that can happen. And then, once they get older, like even like with myself, that I'm in like my early 30s. Now I reflect back and I tell my mom, like thank you, thank you for doing that. I didn't understand it in that moment, I didn't understand it at that age. But this and this didn't happen to me because you didn't let this happen.
Speaker 4Yeah, so that's really wonderful. I'm sure that must make your mom glow, I hope so, because it's true, you know it really is.
Speaker 2I am able to reflect now that that was it. And and you know, another thing is, like they, everyone's learning, we're all learning where no one is an adult. What did I hear the other day? Cause it, cause, sometimes I think now, like, especially now that I'm like living on my own, I'm like, oh my God, I'm an adult, like I can buy my own groceries, I can buy a dog, sugary cereal if I want to. You know things that I didn't have when I was growing up. Or if I want to drink a soda, which I don't, but if I do, I can't like you know things like that. Like that, now you're like a real adult. And the other day I was watching a show and then in the show the guy said, um, he's like we're all um just pretending to be adults.
Speaker 2He said and I'm like, oh my God, that's right, like you know. I mean, we know the definition of an adult or everything, but it's like we're still pretending and I feel like it doesn't matter what age you are, it's still trying to figure it out, right?
Speaker 5Yeah, I always feel like, uh, like, uh, like an imposter, like it.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm a fake adult. Yeah.
Speaker 4You fake. I'm the fakes adult ever.
Speaker 5I always want to laugh at like really inappropriate things or just say, right there with you.
Speaker 4Sometimes my daughters will get in a fight and part of me is just laughing.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 4And I'm like, oh no, they're looking to me to break this up, but I'm kind of enjoy.
Speaker 5Oh damn it yeah. Adult time. So many times they're like, hey, the poop this fart that. And I'm like, yes, I want to be like. I hear other moms be like I'm like I'm like I'm like, yes, I hear other moms be like we don't use toilet Talk, and I'm like, am I supposed to say that? Cause I'm just laughing it.
Speaker 3Oh man.
Speaker 1That's awesome, Matthew. Jacqueline, thanks for coming out and doing the podcast. Wait, think fast. Go ahead and tell us where we can find you and what you guys have coming up.
Speaker 5So we are on Spotify, Apple Music, all streaming services, and we our Instagram is. Wait think fast, yep, no periods and waiting fastcom. I guess we're on on Facebook too, and we should have some shows coming up, so go, follow us and you will know where we'll be, where we'll be playing in January and you'll be releasing new singles for the next few months, so we'll find us online.
Speaker 4Thank you for having us so fun.
Speaker 1Yeah, of course, so you can find a wait. Think fast. Links down at the show description. If you're watching on YouTube or listening on Spotify, everything's clickable. Just click it or get a ticket and follow them on social media. So you said Facebook. Instagram follow them on Spotify I know I will and tune in.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1All right and happy Friday and tomorrow. If you don't have tickets, get tickets because they're I believe they're still discounted, so click the link down in the show description. Come check your boy out the city of Long Beach at the Soy Funny Comedy Festival and we'll see you next time. Thank you, we're doing that right now. Okay, open mic December. City of Paramount it's going to happen.
Speaker 2The ugly sweater theme.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2It'll be fun.
Speaker 1I'm here for it, me too. All right guys, the Mamiqa. Oh yeah, spoo ya Bye.