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MB:222 with Kyle Waters Geller, Makea: Turning Uniform Hacks and Guerrilla Tactics into Indie Film and Fashion Triumphs
Kyle Waters Geller, Makea is a Guerilla filmmaker(s) on a mission to bring ‘The Guys Make a Movie’ to life this summer. Finally making his first feature film this year somehow some way. He has a unique guerilla marketing plan because he has no money for a conventional marketing plan.
The purpose is to spread awareness of his film and marketing plan which includes a bunch of free stuff for whoever wants it.
https://www.elprimobrand.com/
Ever wondered how a high school student's clever workaround to school uniforms could snowball into a full-blown apparel brand? Or imagined giving away products for free as a sane business strategy? Join Amber and me as we partner with MyGrito Industries, and let's unravel these audacious tales together. Our special guest, Kyle from Makea, turns conventional business wisdom on its head, proving that sometimes the best things in life, or at least the best publicity, might actually be free. We're not just talking shop; we're dissecting the very fabric of entrepreneurial spirit that stitches together the worlds of fashion and indie filmmaking.
As we meander through the highs and lows of the creative process, you'll get an insider's look at the craft behind the silver screen. From guerrilla marketing antics that have Hollywood abuzz to the heartfelt stories that propel independent films into the limelight, we cover it all. We'll even get a little reflective, sharing personal journeys of overcoming adversity, the relentless grind of chasing cinematic dreams, and the rich lessons learned from failures and triumphs alike. Whether it's leveraging a film festival deadline to fuel your creativity or navigating the emotional rollercoaster of pitching to indifferent investors, we bare it all in candid conversations that are as enlightening as they are entertaining.
Expect to leave with a newfound appreciation for the art of storytelling, whether it's through a killer script or a guerrilla marketing spectacle — and yes, we mean an actual gorilla at a movie premiere! We'll dissect the intriguing leap from theater to film, speculate on Shane Gillis's potential influence in a Tarantino flick, and even share our surprise at Steven Wright's cinematic cameo. Before you press play, we promise you a session brimming with inspiration, laughter, and maybe a few industry secrets that could just be the push you need to embark on your own creative venture. So, settle in, grab those headphones, and let's embark on a journey through the twists and turns of indie success and the strategies that make it happen.
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Speaker 1:He had to think what we were going to do.
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Speaker 2:The City of Paramount. We will be having Dalit Comedy, which is an open mic, showcased and live podcast on March 29th, next Friday, completely free. If you're a comedian, whether you're a beginner, amateur or a professional, come out and do three minutes in front of an audience. We have guestwhat are they called Panelist? I don't like panelists because we're not judging.
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Speaker 2:We have guest comedians James Jablonsky and Walter Reyes for the evening, so come check it out. Hit the link. All right, cool, anything else?
Speaker 1:Nope. You sure I'm positive I'm not doing that with that.
Speaker 2:Do you got something?
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Speaker 1:I said when I'm back.
Speaker 2:It sounded like you're already 5.
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Speaker 2:Without further ado, let's get into today's guest. I am super excited to talk to this gentleman, kyle, representing Makia. What's going on, man, hey?
Speaker 3:What's up, dude?
Speaker 1:Did you say that right?
Speaker 3:Makia, makia. Hey, you know what's you trying to make it all bison.
Speaker 1:No, you're making it all bison.
Speaker 2:You're making it all bison. I went back, you went back.
Speaker 3:You got to roll the K Makia, makia, makia.
Speaker 2:Makia.
Speaker 3:Makia, makia, makia, makia. All right, we have it on the road.
Speaker 2:You're getting it Okay, so tell us.
Speaker 3:There's so many options. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:We're giving you options.
Speaker 3:We got to give options. Any options are good options.
Speaker 2:Tell us about it, man.
Speaker 3:Man, it's probably the worst idea I've ever had. It sounds like the worst business pitch in the planet.
Speaker 3:Trying to fundraise a couple bucks. And I'm like, yeah, dude, so I'm just going to give everything away for free. And they're like, oh well, how are we going to make money back on this? Oh, you're not. We're just going to fucking give away everything and hope for the best, you know, and that's what we're doing. In a nutshell, I don't know. Essentially, man, I'm a filmmaker. I started making a real go out of this, I think, when I was 24, I'm 40 now, so it's been a while. I never really started off doing the acting thing just because I didn't know where to go, never had a mentor or anybody to really ask like, hey, how do you become Quentin Tarantino? I guess, right, like, essentially, that's the big director, that's where I want to be.
Speaker 3:I don't want to, just want to be up there you know, and it's a hard, long road that nobody tells you how to, how to crack that egg. And so here we are at 40, like 16, 17 years later, something like that. And it's had my second kid in a year, which I don't recommend. It's a lot.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:I reckon definitely it's amazing, but it's just a lot of crazy shit I've ever done in my life. But it's a lot of motivation and it really forced me to kind of think about things a little more in depth, like as far as artistic approach.
Speaker 3:like you can't just you know, my wife always makes fun of me for being like complete artist, like, oh, just throw shit on a wall, like it means something, you know. And so you can't really do that with the kids because there's bills and shit and you know, you kind of got to have an end game and so I I don't know just things aligned, I don't know how to. I've never made, I've never made a movie. I've made everything else. I've done short films, million short films. I've done music videos, sketches. I know what I'm doing as far as the filmmaking. I've just never made a feature film. This is going to be really long. It's a really long answer. It was a really long answer.
Speaker 1:No, we like long answers.
Speaker 2:We're all here for it, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, perfect. So I want to be like. If there was one guy I would say I'm trying to be most like, it would be Robert Rodriguez. Okay, you know, he's the like godfather of like no budget film, like just kind of gorilla filmmaking. Just make a, make a fucking movie, like that's it Right. And he did it on 10, 75 hundred bucks, apparently back in Like the early 90s, late 80s, you know, with film which was super, was just still super expensive. Robert, robert Rodriguez.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he did you know he found, I mean he did so. This was El Mariachi is the movie I'm talking about. You know, right after he did Desperado, he found Selma Hayek. He found in Tokyo Banderas. Like he did that, like on nothing you know, and like now he does. He's one of Disney's like right hands. You know he does spy kids. He did the whole spy kids series.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:He's, he did one. He did dust till dawn art, not just till dawn. What's the fucking keep pulling?
Speaker 2:up.
Speaker 3:Planet terror. You know the double series we did with Quentin Tarantino. It was that in the car one.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, so he was like the four.
Speaker 3:Four chicks is Quintin's right and and then Planet Terror was Roberts.
Speaker 2:Okay, was he one of the directors on the? So there's the. It was a movie with, there was four directs four rooms, that's what it is Okay, and he was one of the directors on.
Speaker 3:I'm not positive he was on. That Tarantino was on right right. I'm not positive he was on that Okay they, they're like yeah, so he's got you. He's that guy, you know. And there was Kevin Smith clerks.
Speaker 3:Yeah you know, same kind of similar success and the thing is it's like that was a long time ago and this is a long time in the making. I'm Trying to be one of those guys and I'm not the only person in the world trying to be one of those guys. You know that's what I got a really like understand now, like Rick Ruby been reading that book it's a new book, this, do God, for me there's a really thing like a really there's a chapter that there's a little part that I read that like just kind of let all this frustration just kind of like Go away. As far as like artists thing, like feeling like when someone has your idea that you see on Like got million views you know you got that shit yesterday, yeah, you know. Like he says something to really make that kind of idea go away. And a really like humbling thing. He says, like you know, it's not the universe puts that idea out. It wasn't you. You're not that special, you know you didn't put that idea out there. The universe put that idea out there. It's it's throwing a wave out for one of these artists to catch, you know, and someone's gonna fucking catch it. It's not gonna. It's not gonna be dropped Right. So whoever catches it and can run with it the furthest, pretty much, is gonna, you know whatever. Take that thing and like be whatever you know.
Speaker 3:So I was like okay, so there's nothing unique about me making a movie like there's millions of people doing that right now, you know, and there's probably a bunch of people that have been doing it for on a low budget and going like, oh, I want to be next Robert, you know whatever. Blah, blah, blah. So the thing I found out was that Making the movie is not gonna be enough, because if no one sees it, I'm never gonna be that guy like I'm not. You know, I have no chance Like there's not even a shot to be that guy like could be the best fucking movie in the world If no one sees it. It's what are you doing? You know what I mean. And so I don't have money to market a movie like I don't have Marvel money, nothing like that. You know it's kind of goes against the whole ethos. I'm making a no budget movie and.
Speaker 3:But I had a. I had started a clothing company. Like this is way. I don't recommend ever starting clothing company ever. But I did way 2000. In 2000, 2001, in high school I was a really like the first class in the fucking country to have to wear uniforms in public school some Bill Clinton bullshit, right and. But in senior year they had moved us to block schedule, so it was like hour and a half classes. So I had all these kids wearing uniforms and I had gotten a super in the screen printing and I just have to run with shit. Like I can't just do it, like if I'm gonna do something, it's like I gotta do, like a whole thing, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I started this weird little brand just because, like I didn't have to do any Other fucking work in the class, like everybody's like, oh no, the teacher was like he loves it so much you don't have to do anything else but your shit.
Speaker 3:And that was amazing. I took that to heart. And now I got all these kids taking water breaks and bathroom breaks, you know, coming in getting their socks printed on, their teachers printed on, because that was our only real way of standing out in all the uniform. You know like I became that dude to do that and then Graduated. I was working with like some local record companies.
Speaker 3:You know that was when, like I think, long Beach dub, all stars had just gotten signed to DreamWorks. They were like the first band to sign DreamWorks, whatever, and that guy was doing my tattoos. I was giving him a bunch of fucking shirts. And then this shit just blew up and got on fucking MTV Like old, because the MTV was doing all the old school, the movie was coming out on that, like just this just all happened to Perfect storm, right, like this fucking old school was doing all their promo, or MTV was doing all the old school promos and they were doing it in Long Beach at all the frat houses, the will ferrell movie, yeah, okay. And so I get a phone call saying hey, dude.
Speaker 3:MTV's down here there's a couple people wearing your shirts, like they need you to sign some contracts and shit.
Speaker 2:Right, really, I come down there with a box more shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm like well, here everybody wear these real quick and I sign some shit. Yeah, so like dude off of nothing, I mean I was getting you know, I was printing these in class. I was running downtown LA on lunchtime Fucking picking up a dozen shirts for like 16 bucks at the time and then I was printing them for free in the class. Yeah, so I mean I think over two years I spent maybe like 1500 bucks on this shit, did I had on magazine covers worldwide?
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 3:Japanese, because the tattoo shit started blowing up. This shit got on Japanese covers, like you know, like all this shit, like Just the name, and I was like that's fucking cool, so Fast forward. I was like I don't know how to fucking market a movie, but I know how to give away free clothes, right, right. And so when you, if you were to do like a fucking multi-million dollar movie, anyway you have a marketing budget and that shit's all free, anyway, it's the fucking mug, you know, it's a, it's a lighter, it's a condom, it's the fucking whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a pen, it's a paperclip, these are just shirts, whatever right, and so.
Speaker 3:I also know that. You know, michael, that you know my closest I'm. Maybe on a good day I could sell one shirt to my closest friends. One day there's no chance in hell I'm gonna sell that same group of cheap friends a second t-shirt, maybe one, maybe two. It's just Closest people. Just don't do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know why it is, it's just the way it is right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's, it's. I'm not complaining at all, that's just the way it is. And so I took that and then I did the other math part of the math problem, which was okay. So I'm a guy, I'm a stranger at a fucking liquor store and I strike it up was just some dude, because there's a bunch of people in the in the line, you know, and I have to. Whatever, we're getting cool. Hey, what do you do? Oh, man, I make movies. Oh, yeah, cool.
Speaker 3:I've never heard you right on. Yeah, you've never seen my movie. Check it out. There is Almost no chance in hell this dude's gonna go home and take the time to fucking watch a whole movie or even try to find that movie. Because if you tell someone that pretty much anywhere outside of Hollywood, you know You're correct. You're, you're just making something in your grandma's basement on your iPhone, like something that's just worthy of your friend's support, that's it. The once the support comes on that one day, that's it. Like no one's watching it again. You know you might get seven more clicks from your friends, but like that's it, like it's just and it's not. Like I said, I'm not complaining at all, there's just realistic shit, like people got other shit going on. You know that person that I'm talking about. I don't know what I'm talking about, but if that same person, I don't know what the fuck they do for work, right?
Speaker 2:so I can't expect. You know what I mean. Like I'm not expecting anything, are you talking about the entertainment industry like now or A few years ago?
Speaker 3:I'll say like right, like right now right now?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, because there's so many, there's. Everybody has a YouTube channel, everybody is on. Ig. Everybody's a content creator. Everybody has a podcast now. So there's a. You're going up against a lot of different creators and I'm trying to get in to that part right.
Speaker 3:I'm not, I'm not shooting to make Like I'm, this is my chance, this is my shot, this is I'm trying to. So that's the thing. So, people, I'm, I'm hoping, I'm counting on people yeah, hoping for a dog-shaped product. Like I'm hoping people think that I'm making my grandma's fucking basement movie. Like you know that this thing is on VHS. Like da, da, da, like, like I said, like terrible sound. Like you know You're gonna want to walk out in 20 minutes. I hope people fucking come in thinking that shit, like that's the whole point, you know. And so these clothes I'm trying to create this whole world of shit. So, like everything on the clothes, we got 55 designs right in Total that are gonna be released over 32 weeks, 16 drops, all for free, in hopes that to create like this limited thing Because after it's done, I mean, it's good done you can't get these shirts again after you know, like last week's drop done, like no more, you know, I mean.
Speaker 3:I don't want to fucking print on so, but I'm trying to create this little, like you know, want to come to the website, you know what I mean so that in 16 weeks or not 16 weeks, 32 weeks 16 drops later on the 17th drop. So you think you, you know, you saw anything, we pay, you pay shipping, you can have whatever fuck you want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, can you pull up this page? You got it right there. Yeah, put on the screen.
Speaker 3:So shipping is 11 bucks, right, right. And I figure, if you ride with us, you know, up until that hole, through that the 16 drops or maybe whatever, whatever you get on board. But if you ride with us till that end point, like if you go on the website on the calendar, like there's already a premiere date for this movie that's not made Right and because it has to, I have to have to have a deadline. Yeah, you know what I mean. And so when that thing comes out, that thing is gonna be released here on the website, and so I'm doing this whole self Thing completely like I'm trying to just do this. You know it's fucked up. Connie's doing this shit right now, man. So think about that. Like this, I'm talking me Dude.
Speaker 1:Oh my god Talk about me trying not to be frustrated with that already shit, you know what I mean, but like, yeah dude, I didn't even put two and two together till like four days ago.
Speaker 3:Right, he's dropping everything on his website for $20, right, and you got a fucking Super Bowl commercial to populate that. Everything's 20 bucks. No way it can't be 20 bucks. Oh, he's getting Yeezys for 20 bucks, like oh, no, no, no, 20 bucks, right, like that's a good thing, yeah, and Then what do you do? On Tuesday he dropped vote. He dropped the new vultures exclusively on his website for sale, because he thinks that if he can get a million people to buy a $20 product, he can get a million people to buy the album.
Speaker 3:It's the same shit. I'm like, if I get people for free here, if they can pay $11 for shipping and, and on the 17th drop they come expecting that and it's just my movie for three bucks. I'm hoping people do that. And you know there's like a little donation aspect. If people want to, you know, help out with stuff like cost, for you know this is not cheap. It's tough to make the movies. We've got a, you know. I mean I try to pay everybody, like everybody's a little bit. Everybody's got a fucking eat. You know we're old now and so there's a donation aspect to it, but it's more.
Speaker 3:I'm hoping that it turns into more of like a hey like. It's it like I invested in this like and if the better my product is at the end of this and I completely blow away your fucking expectations of the shit product. Right, that's that's what I'm hoping and that you'll. But then you'll like it ten times more when you watch it. And if you invest it like 50, 20 bucks, even, whatever, and I put your name on the, you know, in the special thanks or whatever on the actual movie that's actually good and qualities there, then I'm hoping they're gonna tell their friends and then they you know what I mean like oh, dude, I help make this like dude, look what this scene.
Speaker 3:They fucking sent me a thank you. You know, I sent this dude, a handwritten thank you letter, this time like amen, like seriously, because of you, like because we were able to film the scene next Tuesday. You know we're filming a scene on Tuesday, first scene of a fucking scene in my first feature film. It's incredible. So I got a newsletter. I don't know, man, there's so many aspects to the ship, but that's the quickest way I can tell you what the hell is being kind of is.
Speaker 3:That's a lot man yeah, so the title of the movie is the guys make a movie.
Speaker 2:The okay. So the title of the movie is the guys make, make a movie.
Speaker 3:And so the brand make oh. Okay, hitting that subliminal shit. Oh so halfway through all the stuff's gonna say the guys make a movie gotcha Film.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it shows. It says that on your your profile Gorilla filmmakers on a mission to bring the guys make a movie to life this summer.
Speaker 1:So so you were saying earlier that people Aren't like believing you when you say like we'll send you free stuff and just pay for oh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that shit's crazy, like it's so hard to give away free stuff. I think some people are finally start like I mean, when I say, like you know, it's like 11 people bug in this last one, you know. But I Think some people are starting to understand that yeah, it's really just, that's a ship, you know, give me the shit, because they think there's a catch, and there always is. Of course there is, you know, but my catch is Is different than other people. My catch isn't shady, you know what I mean. My kid, like, oh, fucking, do all this. And then you owe me money. Or like da, da, da, da. Like do you only catches that you're wearing now? You're wearing, now you're a billboard for my movie, right? So I fucking win too. Like it's not, it's not crazy, like I'm not asking anything, fucking.
Speaker 3:No you know what I mean. Like I'm you literally just you paid me 11 bucks to fucking promote my shit. Yeah thank you, that was great.
Speaker 2:You're asking somebody to put a shirt on or wear a hat. So I do.
Speaker 3:I get mad value from it like people think I. They just don't and it's I get it like it's kind of it. No one's done this shit before. I don't think. I don't think anybody's done this kind of thing before as far as the movie, yeah, and for a movie now.
Speaker 3:and we're shooting a scene, an actual scene, on Tuesday right, which I think is gonna be really good for the overall project, because a I'm doing it to, like, boost morale for my actors you know, my actors going to bat for me, these guys, half of them never worked for me before, you know, and I just want to show them what I'm capable of, because that's a big thing for the actor. Actors it's a fucking terrible, that's a fucking Fuck. That that's a terrible job. Man, have you seen that Tom Segura thing you just put out? He was him and his homie Talking about what they did to get into Hollywood. No, it's amazing.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:We suck dick for like hours. That's baby. Just they just go back and forth for, oh man, you suck. You had to suck that guy's dick too. You know, and it's like dude, like you fucking go there and it's like man, is that how, how you get in? Because it seems impossible. You know, like I used to tell when I was doing stand-up a while ago I used to fucking tell the joke like you know that me too shit, like I never even got the opportunity, opportunity to get me to like.
Speaker 3:I would you know what I mean like yeah, man, like I Don't know, is that, is that worse? I don't know. I didn't even fucking get asked. Like goddamn, I'm feeling, like a fucking, I'm feeling terrible.
Speaker 1:Like I know you said in the beginning, like there's no, there's no blueprint right on how to become this like high pain director or you know any director like that you look up to. But how did you navigate that? Like how did you once you realize, okay, no one's gonna tell me how to get there? Like how, how did you even start to Try to get there?
Speaker 3:It's a lot of, I mean failing right, failing the fucking biggest teacher. I mean some so cliche was like now 40 and I'm like all those cliches are so true man, like it's all true, failing like a motherfucker man. Like you know, I didn't. I didn't want to be an actor. Like I came out here going like I did, but I didn't know what a director was either.
Speaker 3:Right, I just like I just want to make a movie. Like I was super jaded, like super fucking just went to Santa Monica College out of Nowhere, like it was a kind of a movie man, like everything leading up to it. To be honest, I Got you know. I went out to Minnesota, stopped doing drugs, I fucking I was like I'm gonna go bury my head in the snow, but myself, a couple years took two years, but it worked. Are you from something? California? Yeah, I grew up in Long.
Speaker 1:Beach.
Speaker 3:Okay, and so, yeah, I went out to Minnesota to get off drugs and then came back to Long Beach and was completely fucking lost, like I don't know what. I didn't know what the fuck to do. I knew I wanted to go to school, though, right, and it was just weird. Shit was just weird, man, like just one thing led to another, like my search for school, everything, and started Already. I was like, well, I guess that there goes, that they all just started two weeks ago. I have to wait six months to Do anything and have a job, you know no job. Like blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 3:And my neighbor cost street comes over and he's like yo, how's the school thing going? Like do. And I'm like, man, it's terrible, fucking, I can't get in, there's nothing. Start and he goes oh, would you go to Santa Monica? I'm like that's his far. He's like, check it out, the only school in the whole state that starts Like a month later so I could get in. And then I'm like, all right, man, well, they won't let me sign up unless I know my major.
Speaker 3:He's like, well, film in, I never thought about film really right, seriously, this is, I'm not even kidding, that's how he goes, just film in, that's what you're meant to do. I was like, okay, sure, film, cool. And then I'm like, all right, got in the Santa Monica, I borrowed my mom's car to go up there. And then I'm like, fuck, this is really far. It was to be like an hour and 20 minutes, I think. I was left like traffic on four of us, terrible, you know. And so I was a. I went to my neighbor again. I'm like lick man, like I don't know how I'm gonna do this. I mean, you take three bus. I checked it out, it's three buses, it's two hours and 45 minutes each way. I'm gonna get burnt out, but I'm gonna give it a whirl, you know, yeah, this dude goes hold on Fucking, comes and brings me keys to a 94 Chevy truck and he goes dude, if it breaks, it breaks. But just get to school, wow, right. And then that just just kept bleeding. Like there was a crazy story how I, I obtained a lens, and it was just like all these I Don't know, I don't even. Yeah, so it's failing, because I Well, first of all, I went to school, did have any clue what to do.
Speaker 3:I was like, okay, film club, so it's a film club, but you do a bunch of shit in there. You sign up for all the different roles and you fucking see what you're not, what you don't like or what you want to do. I knew how, I knew I wanted, like I said I didn't know what a director really. I knew what a director was, but I didn't really know what, like what I don't know, I don't know how to explain it. Yeah, but I knew like that's what I wanted to be. I just didn't know if I knew how to how it worked.
Speaker 3:You know if I was any good at it, like Bobo, and it was just I don't know man, something was there and I was like I like the filmmaking part, but again, I didn't have anybody there. So it was a. You know, let's go to YouTube and it was, you know, tarantino, tarantino, interviews after interviews and like all these just so many interviews, dude, and the biggest one was like okay, tarantino was like, well, we want to. You know, if you really want to learn how to talk to actors, you need to be an actor, you need to take acting classes and stuff like that. So I'm like, okay, let me just get in there and I started working at the grocery store delivering groceries. An extort of Santa Monica College and all them fucking dudes are Fucking you know, like no one's from California.
Speaker 3:You know, what I mean. Like all of them are fucking quote-unquote actors, yeah. And so they're just like dude, you got a, you got this weird. Look, why don't you just get in background like do-do-do? And I'm like well, quit and said it fuck, let's fucking try this. Yeah, and it was pretty fucking easy. Like I went in, got background, like signed up that day, like was getting a bunch of work like dida-da, and then I started taking acting classes and that was cool, and then I was trying to like I guess I got caught up in trying to be an actor just because that was the only thing I knew. Again, you know, that was it. And Then I'm like Doing, I'm taking background pretty serious because it pays really well and I was getting a lot of like I was getting on shows for like six months at a time. I mean that was fucking. What kind of shows did you get on? Like I did a whole. I did the whole season of Roadies, which was a Cameron Cose fucking terrible.
Speaker 1:Sorry.
Speaker 3:Machine gun Kelly. Oh my god really. Fucking terrible show, but six months I mean it's yeah, six months of work.
Speaker 2:Right, it's really really, really good.
Speaker 3:So like there's that, but Seeing it was just a constant feeling of frustration. Man, like the bigger sets I got on. You know I think I got called in on this Ben Affleck movie one time, which was fucking rad. Got all trailer, got the whole shit came in on the last day too Got. You know I get the lobster fucking fountain.
Speaker 1:Not lobster found shrimp fountain.
Speaker 3:But there's love, you know it's just yeah. It was cool. But I mean like the bigger the set, the more frustrated, which for no reason is totally unwarranted.
Speaker 2:I have no yeah, you know, but like this is when you say frustration, we were was a frustration because I was.
Speaker 3:I was the little guy on set. Oh okay, I was the little guy on set and, as a bat and that set. That Ben Affleck one got treated well, but as a background, background dude it's like that water fountain kind of shit. Like it's bad, like it's fucking. You're not allowed to eat these tables, you can't stand in that fucking line. Like you're not allowed to eat that chicken. Like I mean oh, I'm not even joking, it's not even. This is under the stretch truth at all.
Speaker 3:Yeah and fucking there's dudes like treat you like shit, like you know it's like it's weird dude, it's like we all make the fucking shit move, like you know what I mean. But it was so is that? And Just knowing what I was doing on my own projects, you know, started just fucking. I started seeing called 24-hour films where I would just make stuff in a day, like I was so simultaneously, between you doing your background work, you're having your own projects on the side.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah he's got to keep the projects I mean on roadies. I finished a draft of a feature film. You know writing. Yeah and uh, it's just and then just constant, just con, just being bad for so long at something till you're better, like that's really it, like yeah, you feel I just didn't care. You know I have I do care, I have a. I definitely have a sense of like quality that I would never put out.
Speaker 3:Yeah and that I would never did, but that also fucking. So once I crossed this threshold for like one time, like maybe I saw a YouTube video. Yeah and it made my video that much better. I fucked myself Because now every video has to be that good. But you also push yourself and you know shit gets good and eventually you just keeps getting better.
Speaker 2:Are you a perfectionist? Do you feel that you have to? Everything has to be in line of what your vision is before you put it out, or is it just? Or do you put something out Just for the sake of putting it out? I mean both yeah like, like you said, you did stand up right. Yeah like you use open mics to work out Jokes right before shows.
Speaker 3:Open my I love right fucking love open mic.
Speaker 2:I guess what I'm trying to say is like, for I'll put in perspective of Like me putting a reel of one of my jokes out on Instagram, right, yeah, I Haven't done, I have them. I just haven't done them yet because I feel like the quality or the quality of the real and the quality of the I Guess the laughs in the room doesn't are not loud enough for cool real, right, so I am, by the same time, I'm not putting that out. I totally forgot what I was gonna say, but I guess what I'm trying to say is maybe I'm Do you, do you like overthink it? Do you overthink it to the where you're not even putting anything out? I'm overthinking that in that aspect of it.
Speaker 3:So kind of sort of yeah, first of all, you can put a you like. You know I put a laugh track on your shit.
Speaker 2:Weird dude. I seen somebody do that like a couple of weeks ago. I was like, clearly you have to Come on, dude, like there's nothing like a real Laugh track, versus Somebody putting that on like downloading it from Google. That's so fucking weird. I think it's just weird.
Speaker 3:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 2:I rather silence than put a laugh track.
Speaker 3:But okay, so the far as the planning shake goes, yeah like For this movie.
Speaker 3:I mean 100. You have to. You have to, you have to have a script. I mean the script is everything you know and the script is your plan. That's your plan. Without the script you don't have anything and that's that's pretty much the point. Like you can bullshit your way through, you can tell a fucking story, you know what I mean. Like you can go, like music videos are real sometimes pretty easy to fucking not have a plan to, you know, especially like rap videos, punk videos, you can kind of just walk around, do the song and Film it ten different ways and boom, you have a video. You don't really need to plan that kind of shit. But for movies to tell a story Because as interesting as we think we are, you know it can only last for so long. Like every fucking word we say isn't gonna be that interesting, right? So you have to craft what's interesting of course.
Speaker 3:And so that's where the script comes in. You know what I mean. Like you have to make the jokes tight, like you have to, yeah, you can't, fucking, you know. And you, if you know, if you want to go get a couple takes or something, after you get the plan, shit, you know, like, oh, dude, let's just try it where you guys do that, or let's just, you know, you guys go off, you guys do your own fucking thing, say whatever you want, you know For sure, but I think you have. If you don't have a plan, it's gonna be fucked. I mean, even like the dude there's fuck. I hate this word, but they call it mumble core. I fucking hate, I just hate labels. So much of like subgenres, genre, genre, subgenres, subgenres there's a lot.
Speaker 3:It's like dude, it's fucking rock and roll like it's just, it's punk, it's there's. Yeah there's only, there's only six colors in the fucking you know whatever. There's only 12 crowns in the fucking coloring thing. It's not right. You know we don't need aquamarine, nighttime shade, sky blue, like right.
Speaker 2:It's just another, it's green, yeah, whatever, yeah, it's green.
Speaker 3:It's not even green or blue, Whatever and so, uh, yeah, you have to, you have to have a plan, because you can't, just it looks like shit. You, like I said, even those mumble core dudes, even the mumble core, is they say that mumble core, the was five. I hate saying that shit out loud. It sounds so stupid. Oh.
Speaker 2:My core even know what that is.
Speaker 3:So it's like the. It's the dudes that start. The dudes that quote started it Didn't. Even some dude in the fucking audience coined the term. So it's that it's even more fucking lame. I hate it, you know, but uh, it's like it's unscripted Movie, you know it's more mostly improv. But even that shit, you have a plan Because you have to know where the story is going. Man, Like you have to, like a spitting Terrence, you know, maybe his biggest downfall is what I got told. My downfall was the beginning of writing was talking too much. You know, like I talk a lot, I can write even more. You know what I mean and my conversations are pretty fucking good. Like I can, I can write a pretty entertaining conversation in the scene, you know. But I don't. You don't. No one wants to see a 20 minute Conversation about there was anything. You know what I mean Like so right you gotta. You have to craft the story.
Speaker 2:You have to unless you're the director of Oppenheimer dude. Oh my god, there's so much dialogue. I got lost like the first five minutes of that fucking movie. Seriously, it was so much talking and so much going on in that movie, jesus Christ.
Speaker 3:I've not seen a movie in for I'm these two kids.
Speaker 2:Oppenheimer was crazy. Have you seen that one?
Speaker 3:No, it's the top of my list for six months now.
Speaker 2:I think Robert Downey Jr Got an Oscar for that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, well, that's often do you know who got the Oscar for a best actor? Was it dude? Was it that dude?
Speaker 2:or can you look down up to see who was sorry? I didn't mean to cut you off, but yeah, dialogue crazy. So you, you're, you're good at writing dialogue.
Speaker 3:I'm just get it right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fucking.
Speaker 3:This is my sixth screenplay, so it's my fifth feature. I've written one one-hour pilot.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's my six one and each one.
Speaker 3:You know you write. I mean my first one.
Speaker 2:I wrote like 32 times already, I think how do you pinpoint a Creative person pinpointing on like their project? You must have a lot of ideas. How do you find, how do you, how do you pinpoint which idea to go through?
Speaker 3:I Mean it sucks cuz you get one yeah, and then yeah and then, like you're in the middle of writing right, and this idea Hits you about this story, but you realize that wait a minute, like that could be its own thing.
Speaker 3:And that sounds really cool exactly you write it down and that's all that consumes your head, you know. But it's just, it's just fucking discipline, man, it's discipline. Yeah, like that's it. I mean I'm doing through it right now because I'm doing, I'm running this whole ship. You know, my boy, nick this, was helping me. You know he's funny in the whole thing and he got this shit off the ground for me, which is great. You know, we got a. This thing just all came together, though we got a couple crazed shirts for free. That was a big thing, wow, like that just happened. And then he's been helping me with a little bit stuff.
Speaker 3:But other than that, I do all the groundwork, right, and this is like. There's a newsletter, this is so. The drops are every other week, it's twice a month. So, on top of trying to produce this fucking movie which is putting together a whole crew, you got to do scheduling. You got to do I gotta get meals, you know. I got to hire everybody. There's sound, there's camera, there's assistance for all those dudes, and I don't got money for any of it. So I'm trying to figure all that shit out in the meantime, right. And then I got to do this newsletter. I got to do I got to make mock-ups for the website for shirts, you know yeah, I had to get all these fucking design 55 designs together before I even started any of this shit.
Speaker 2:Like and you did all the designs to all, 55 to everything dude everything.
Speaker 3:So I do the fucking, I do the emails, I do the newsletter, I print out the newsletter and then take it to record stores like old-school design shit, zine, shit.
Speaker 1:Damn.
Speaker 3:Fucking, I'm rewriting the movie every day, I'm getting props, I'm art department, I'm dude, I'm just doing everything, man, everything. And oh, I'm far forget, dude, I got a. Really, I keep fucking forgetting to mention this man, because this is the heart and soul of this whole project, dude, is it's more than the Robert Rodriguez thing, right? Like I really want to change some shit with this project, because Hollywood, right now, I did the Hollywood thing, like I went and did that, like the real, you know, went and fucking talked to all these people, like hung around him and shit, fucking hate it. It's so bullshit.
Speaker 3:And the thing that I'm trying to change the most right now is the money aspect. Like I Don't know who was it, the fucking? There was a screenwriter. It was the only thing I saw on the Oscars. It was a screenwriter for, oh god, it was an American fiction or something like that, where he was just like you don't I first? You know, someone over here made a 40 million dollar film. He's like that's four ten million dollar films or eight, five million dollar films.
Speaker 3:You know are just sixteen, one million dollar films, like just make films. You know I did it up and this problem with Hollywood is there's they think you fucking need so much money. And that's where the Robert Rodriguez thing comes in, because he did on 7,500 bucks way back then. Now cameras are way better and do way more and you don't need to process the film, it's just there on your computer, so everything's 20 times easier.
Speaker 2:Robert Rodriguez made a film on 7,500 dollars. Yeah whoa which one.
Speaker 3:El Mariachi, that's the one. It's the precursor to Desperado. It's like Desperado part one. Okay first it was a guy with the guitar case like Bob is the pre. Yeah, it's the.
Speaker 2:Tony and bandera's right.
Speaker 3:No is a different dude.
Speaker 2:Oh, and and the, this was the El Mariachi, you know who is in.
Speaker 3:You know who else. He found it. What's? Uh, oh god, what the hell is his name? Dude, fucking old, old, old G Mexican fucking. Shit yeah oh really he made. That's him, robert. He's doing machete. That's his movie.
Speaker 2:That's Robert Rodriguez so, okay, getting excited over it, love it man, this fucking.
Speaker 3:They're so obsessed with fucking money, man. Everything she needs millions. Ours make movies like duh, duh, duh, and the technology is so much better than ever, and the problem Is, is there's so many options right now. You got fucking a you got greens.
Speaker 3:You got like round screens, you got straight screens, you got green screens, you got blue screens, you got digital screens. You got fucking whole Circles that encapsulate you with the screen. Like there's so many options, there's so many cameras, there's so many ways of doing things. And then there's so much money in the world right now right, I wish I had some, but there's so much money in the right that, with all these options and you give like a first-time Filmmaker that's maybe like his you know, maybe their parents are fucking Some giant person that was like oh, here are you, here's money to make a movie, do whatever you want. Right, right, all these options, and that's how you get a fucking 30 million dollar film. Or I'm gonna be Christopher Nolan. Go actually blow up a fucking desert for fucking.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, yeah it's just.
Speaker 3:But there's ways around it and there's. You don't need that, you just need to Be the old schools. I'm just trying to bring back essentially the old-school Sundance, like whatever the Sundance I grew up on was like black and white. If you didn't fucking, if you couldn't match the lighting and all your shots, you just make it black and white. You know, I have this variety show in East LA. I had like 30 episodes or had bands and shit, and I'm not a perfectionist but I do, like I said, I do hold quality, right, right, a standard. And so when I did this show, I did four different, four different cameras, right, I had four different camera setups and every fucking camera was different, right, so none matched color, right, and I'm not gonna do it black and white. It's not a, it's not independent films, fucking TV show, punk rock bands, right, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like a white, but I did the VHS filter.
Speaker 2:Right, okay matched.
Speaker 3:It made everything match and it made it look like shit together. You know, one looks like shit and three look good. That's a shitty piece right. But if they all look like shit, that's just a cool thing, you know so yeah that's I'm not a perfectionist, but I do have the quality standard.
Speaker 3:So anyway, yeah, that's I'm trying to bring that back is like, dude, you fucking tell a good story. Like I got really into this whole kick last year on this midget action star, this Filipino midget action star named Wang Wang, right Wang Wang, as little dudes like three nine really yeah yeah, yeah, it's a little guy dude and he's like the James Bond dude. He's a good one. He's an action, so it's fucking awesome, right.
Speaker 3:Three, nine actions for a wing wing worst movies you'll ever see, but also the best movies by far. Right, there's one where he's running this high-rise hotel.
Speaker 2:Can we see him like?
Speaker 3:please pull where. Where is it?
Speaker 2:Is he on YouTube Google?
Speaker 3:YouTube YouTube.
Speaker 2:Go to YouTube.
Speaker 3:Wang Wang dude Wang Wang and it's like you know, it's just one of all. He goes in this hotel room. You know he's getting chased, you know, by a group of dudes and every hotel room he didn't has a naked paratidies, you know, just randomly, and he does, like the creepiest, look like he's just so uncomfortable Right, and then like he'll jump out of a fucking window, whoa on, like the top story, and then they cut to. You know, little parachute, parachute, menu, get out of the fucking quarter machines.
Speaker 3:Yeah they'll cut to that right Falling all the way down, and then they'll cut back to him jumping in the pool right and so for the shot. Essentially, he fucking jumped out all those stories.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:And so my point of that is what is it? Yeah, just do wing wing action star. Okay, there he is there you. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Put this guy on the screen every.
Speaker 3:So this is how you tell a fucking story without you know what I mean. No matter what Agent, double o.
Speaker 2:Oh, point double. That is so awesome, that is cool.
Speaker 3:I mean this gets acid will oh my god can just point and chicks just melt, you know.
Speaker 2:So hold on, I'm super confused, so is this.
Speaker 3:It's my biggest inspiration of the last two years. Man, so is this.
Speaker 2:Was this like made within the past couple of years?
Speaker 3:or is this all this?
Speaker 2:way. Oh my god. Daddy supreme look at that. Oh oh, just slays, it will man. Oh my god, oh my god, okay, so wing, wing man wing wing. So when you say he's your inspiration right now, what do you mean?
Speaker 3:Just like, like that whole, like that, like this, like you know, like that whole that parachute story I told you about right okay, like they didn't let practical effects just versus no, it's anything, versus not telling the story.
Speaker 3:It's telling the story versus not telling the story, right. So like him jumping out of the window on paper to you know ten, let's say, nerds, like dudes that just don't have any fucking ounce of ambition in their body to make a movie, right, you give that to them and they're gonna go oh, we don't have a budget or a stunt guy to jump out a fucking window, right, but this guy just wants to tell the fucking story, and so he figures out how to cut in that parachute guy and yeah, it's funny, but the movie sucks anyway, yeah. So why not like? Why not just fucking do it like that makes sense? You know what I'm saying? Like it's style, bro, it's fucking style.
Speaker 3:Yeah it's not bad that shit's dope as fuck. Yeah, like I told you about it, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah if someone tells anybody about anything that shit's tight and now we're gonna binge watch it.
Speaker 3:I hope.
Speaker 2:I thought it's good I think Amber found her new guilty pleasure right now.
Speaker 1:But I think that that was. I get exactly what you're saying, like instead of just limiting yourself and saying, okay, I don't have the budget to fly out of an airplane, but how can I still portray flying out of an airplane with what I do have right? It kind of is what you're saying like no hundred percent saying you're still telling the story, but using what you actually have or in your means so on Tuesday we're filming this first.
Speaker 3:It's not the first scene of the movie, but it's the first scene from the movie we were gonna shoot right on Tuesday and the whole thing is like the guys basically decided to cook meth to come over the money to fund their first film Right, in this scenario there's four Terrible. So they come with the fun and games part of like the middle of the movie, whereas this like fun shit, it's four terrible scenarios of them trying to come up with like they're they basically daydreams, right, but anyway. So the one on Tuesday they decided they're gonna cook meth and sell meth to come up with money for their first film right, but the trailer blows up. Everybody fucking dies except for one dude. And how the fuck do am I gonna blow up a fucking trailer, right? I have fucking no money to shoot to see let alone blow up a real trailer.
Speaker 3:And so I'm gonna get a 3d, I'm gonna paint a 3d printed Version of the trailer, you know, and shoot it on a super dope lens and just do some practical tricks and then blow, blow up a fucking print, 3d printed trailer. Yeah, but stylistically believe in myself, you know, and Not go into it knowing that it's not gonna be a fucking Michael Bay explosion, like right, I'm not trying to sell you a Michael Bay explosion, I'm trying to sell you my low budget Kyle Geller explosion in a fucking Michael Bay movie. I guess you know yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm like that's it. Like, if I can pull off stylistically some shit where, like I don't want you to laugh at this one, so there's not gonna be like shitty, shitty, you know what I mean. But There'll be an aspect to it where it's like dude, this dude was having fun, right you know? Versus like that shitty having fun with style.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. It's actually good I feel that, do you think that a lot of filmmakers now are Trying to be too cinematic, that it just seems like it's all the same? Because I feel like what you're telling me right now and what you're describing is super, completely different than me and Amber have been to. Like these indie film. Like indie film. What are they? In festivals and oh yeah cinematically they're. They're great. The production value are great, but it's still the.
Speaker 3:All-conversation we just had. It's still the same. Everybody's focused on the fucking money, right? No one fucking goes for the story first or the way you're gonna tell the story everybody goes. I have don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2:The stories were.
Speaker 3:We're good but I know I'm talking about. Yeah, no, they're fucking film festivals, right, terrible films, man. They're fucking terrible films because Stories are okay, like, but the cinema, the word cinematic has gotten so out of fucking control as it. That's the. That's a big problem too. Okay, is that all these new kids go? Oh, it needs to be cinematic. Yeah dude, when you're watching a movie, what are you watching cinema?
Speaker 2:right.
Speaker 3:Bro, it's not a fucking, it's not a math problem, right? If you fucking shoot a movie, it's cinematic. You don't like they're fucking. That's what I'm talking about oh, so reaching for so much. That's not there.
Speaker 2:So they're attaching Cinema to a movie when it's not supposed to be? No, they're just or they're like.
Speaker 3:These people would say Like they. I guess they would rather not shoot something or come on, it's just, it's excuses. It's fucking excuses is what it is. My shit doesn't look cinematic enough, or it's not cinematic, or like this Well, figure out how fucking make it look like a movie. Then, if it's, if you can't, if you as a filmmaker Can't achieve making a piece of cinema look like a piece of cinema, then you should either quit or fucking get better, or or just learn. Like you, just, but like if it's not cinematic, you fucking failed. Yeah, as a filmmaker, I mean, because if you show anything on screen, you know what I mean like it should, by nature of math, be cinematic, right that fucking whores could. So fucking stupid right now.
Speaker 3:They just use it. So it's just so wrong. It's like it's like dude fucking. It used to be when this whole shit started. I watched it.
Speaker 2:I watched it cinema is it supposed to be a style? I feel like it's a style.
Speaker 3:No, because this dude will tell you oh, if you don't use anamorphic fucking lenses, it's not cinematic, right? It's like well, did you know that the guy you're talking about just added black bars, didn't even use a fucking anamorphic lens like Just because it's shizz like. You know. It's like that was my favorite when I first started hearing dudes drop it way too much. It was like Wait, you're just wide screen. Wide screen makes it, it doesn't make it anything cinematic.
Speaker 3:It's just a thing that someone fucking used and it's a fucking excuse. It's another excuse for someone not to make a movie like that's it. It's this shit's full of fuck. This whole thing is full of fucking excuses. Man, I did this shit so proper. Dude, before I can talk about this because I did it so proper, I failed fucking so many times. I the way I thought you were supposed to do it, or the way everybody else told me do it. Go to these networking events.
Speaker 3:Yeah talk to these people? Do all the film festivals? Fuck the film festivals too, man. The film festivals are fucking bullshit. I hope all film festivals are watching your fucking here about this somehow. So Fucking Latino, fucking this. Fucking. Come out with their own film festivals, fucking. All the Asians come out their own film festivals. The blacks come out their own fist. Everybody comes out with their own racial film fest.
Speaker 3:Right to fucking tear down the walls of fucking segregation and fucking tear all these racist walls down. Right, creating the most racist fucking walls in the fucking world. Like dude, I'm fucking. I'm of Sandoval. That's my fucking family name. Right, right, I'm fucking Latino, bro. Like fucking, that's it. Like I'm brown. I'm the brownest dude and next to a bunch of white dudes, I'm the wise dude next to a bunch of brown dudes, right, like it's always been like that. Yeah, but oh, if I wanted to get into any of these fucking film festivals, my story has to be Grandma jumps over the fucking wall, breaks her ankle and then has to be carried over the river Right and fucking is facing deportation. Like that's the only way that, as a Latino filmmaker, I'm allowed into these festivals. Essentially Right, because they're looking for Latino stories, but is it any fucking story told by a Latino, latino, fucking story?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I think so kind of weird. Yeah, so I did see there was like five years ago. There's an Asian dude. Oh my god, this Asian dude fucking knocked it out of the fucking park. He made this fucking for the pan am, fucking pan American Asian Festival. He made this fucking movie about this dude. It was so good where he went to a film festival and he got beat by like a White chick or something like at an Asian festival, right, yeah, and he was like what the fuck? And he goes back and he started studying. He's just made the most racist film to kung fu, like he put. He literally made his checklist of all the Asian Things he could put in his film, right, and then he got all the accolades, went there, one, all the shit like, but it was done so fucking well and that's that's the same. That's the shit too like.
Speaker 3:The shit is just oh, like I'm, I'm trying to do not say that's my biggest deal, right, because I don't have money to fucking say like I don't have enough money To fucking put articles out and fucking papers and change minds and shit like that. So I'm gonna make movies and I grew up in Long Beach like my biggest identity. I even fucking. I don't even really know what the fuck I am like. I don't know how to identify for shit. Other than I'm from Long Beach, right, like it's kind of sucks, it's fucking as an older dude, I'm like as a grown-up with the kids. Now I'm like that's kind of shitty, like that's kind of a fucked up thing, you know, but I Don't even know what's going with that shit fucking, I totally lost that shit.
Speaker 1:But I get what you're saying. I get exactly.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm trying to show is that, like you know, my movies have every fucking dudes in it. They have all like I grew up with every fucking looking, every person of every fucking color. Your machine, you're not a fucking, so I put fucking 25% black dudes in my shit to fucking reach a quota, you know. Or like duh duh, duh, duh. Like there was a big movement like two years ago where I think it was a Latino and Black Some initiative in fucking film where they were supposed to fucking you know higher X amount of fuck things, you know, and they wasted it and now it's like it's less numbers than it was before. You know what I mean. So it's like one step forward, two steps back. Holly was like every fucking time and it's because your intention is so fucked up. It's like trying to create what is it? Inclusivity or whatever fuck, but you're excluding everybody.
Speaker 3:Yeah you know what I mean? Like why? It's like dude the fucking. Why do you start the KKK, right? Because they fucking needed to fucking feel Special, right, or whatever? Do the same fucking thing. You're fucking starting the fucking Latino filmmaker and but Excluding every fucking Latino. That's not Latino enough. Yeah, it's like dude, chicanos. A real thing, bro. Like fucking. You know what I mean? The motherfuckers don't even speak Spanish.
Speaker 2:Yeah how?
Speaker 3:but I know a bunch of dudes Don't speak Spanish fucking shoot you in the face for telling them they're not fucking Mexican enough. Like what the fuck? That's just bullshit. You know what I mean. So try to change some shit, man. But I'm trying to do not fucking, because I can say shit after I do it. You know what I mean. If I put out this fucking movie and really change some shit, I'd be like, hey, man, I can do that.
Speaker 3:You know, Right now it's just a fucking pipe dream. Oh my God, September 13th, we have that movie.
Speaker 2:So when did you get the idea of the guys make a movie Like where did this come out of?
Speaker 3:So let me tell you a little bit about the guys make a movie, and then you could tell me if any of it sounds familiar. No, fucking so. Last year in January I wrote a pilot TV show for a Sundance program. Right, no, I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna get in. But and what is Sundance? Sundance is like pretty much the reason like what got me in the film. It was like the independent channel way back in the days, like all the black and white cheap shit my mom used to watch, but it was the thing that made me think I had a shot too, you know. And now it's like that's where Tarantino fucking goes in premieres movies.
Speaker 3:It's like it's not that you can't compete, you know.
Speaker 2:It's not that anymore. It's not that anymore at all.
Speaker 3:And so I just need to get back to that dude Like I want to go back to fucking that. You know when were we, where were we?
Speaker 2:I just fucking the idea of the guys make movie.
Speaker 3:So yeah, last year, oh Sundance.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I wrote the fucking wrote the pilot for Sundance, and then you know you might not ever hear back from them and so it's more just a date, it's more of like because I'm, I don't, I don't have a boss telling me, fucking, when to do stuff, you know like that. So deadlines were pretty important to me to finish it, and so I always use Sundance as deadlines, either for to make a movie, to make something like a short film to put in at the end of the year, or this pilot shit at the beginning of the year. Those are the two you know marks. So I was done with that and I was like all right, well, I can't just wait around. Blah blah, blah blah. And I wrote another. I'd met this producer dude who I was trying to kind of show him that I'm, I'm here to play a ball. You know everybody says that but and so I wrote another movie in four days after that and I sent it to him. He's like you didn't fucking do that.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God fucking did that, you know he's like all right, all right, all right, I see where you're at. And so, anyway, that snowballed into some things. Buddy from high school was like hey, do you remember this other guy from high school? He's been fucking, he's been wanting to invest in a movie. I'm like no shit, like let's do it. So we had some meetings with this dude. I called him this fucking this producer dude because that was like my way of flexing at all. You know, which I probably shouldn't brought him in because the shit just fell to pieces, right. So, fucking, I have this dude, I'm skin for a hundred thousand to make this movie and everything sounds good, like everything's go, and then just ghosted I mean completely I've never talked to this dude again Like completely ghosted, Right.
Speaker 3:And so with the second kid man, I can't really be frustrated, like there's no time for frustration, like it doesn't really do anything for anything. And so I wrote, I wrote this fucking the guys make a movie which is about a dude that turns, just turned 40 and had a second kid, and on the night of his birthday he's walking out of the bedroom, puts his kids down, he's going to walk out the bedroom to go play poker with his homies and his wife says, hey, you got a year to fucking get your shit together, or you got to get a job Like you got to get a real job, you know, and so that's it. I mean, it came out like it's and so it's. It came out a definite frustration for me, trying to have been trying to really give this a go for a long time. It's really hard. It's a really hard like mentally draining man. It's like no, it's a really hard thing to do is to break down this wall. You know this industry thing. And so I just took all my frustrations and put it in this fucking movie. Yeah, that's, that's essentially what it is.
Speaker 3:And so, like you know, these dudes decide they're going to make it's for, you know, for main dues. They say they're going to make the fucking movie, right, and they, so it's. One dude's Coke does all coat, he's a Coke dude. One dude does smokes, a bunch of weed, we've got an alcoholic, and then the sober guy, right, like those are the four, those are that's the main cast. And they get the sober dude. They're trying to figure out. Like the one dude goes oh, my buddy from high school, you remember a buddy from high school? He wants to invest in a movie, right, we just need to know, oh yeah, what, he just needs a star in it. He just needs star in it. He'll invest right. So I'm like cool, so we go. Oh, when you start a barb on them, when the sober guy in the movie he's like oh.
Speaker 3:I fucking go to a with Ray Leota right, hit him up. No, you don't. You know if it's like you know doubting him and shit, he's like he's in, you know. So, fucking, they give the dude a call and like, oh, we got Ray Leota. And he's like, oh, fucking invest, you know, let's talk tomorrow. So the next morning when dude comes over and when all the dudes meet up again, you know, the garage is like the headquarters and shit. So when they all meet up, the one dude who got Ray Leota right Comes in. He's like yeah, dude, so we're all good. Like like, totally just shooting the shit but not looking at anybody. And everybody gets a tech, everybody gets like a tweet, whatever the fuck.
Speaker 3:They're all looking at phones and they have to give us to dark look. And fucking Ray died, yeah, and so the dude ghosts them. You know the dude ghosts them because fucking raises bread and butter. So he goes to and so the whole movie is these guys coming? Up with fucking, crazy fucking ideas to try to fund their first feature and they don't. They fucking. They all get jobs at lowes and shit. They just spoil the movie. No, I'm just playing. There's a lot more. There's a lot more to it but it's fun man.
Speaker 3:It's a. Yeah, there's a RV explosion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's RV Fuck yeah, dude, they're in Vegas.
Speaker 3:I mean, one guy sells his, you know, basically sells his mouth to get him home on the bus. You know what I mean. Wow, then yeah, the meth explosion. They start a cult. Geez, fuck it.
Speaker 2:This actually sounds really cool. It's pretty good dude.
Speaker 3:It sounds cool. I've written a lot of shit. I broke every fucking rule. I ever said I would write with this. Like I said, I never read this out of comedy, I never. I said I'd never write about making a movie. You're breaking your own rules, all you're saying every single fucking rule I've ever said I would. Yeah every single one, and it's the most fun I've ever had writing.
Speaker 2:As a person that used to do stand up. You never, you never thought about doing that. You never wanted to do a comedy film.
Speaker 3:No comedy for sure. This style so this is like, this is like naked gun comedy. Okay, that slapstick, yeah, like and like, yeah, and I just never thought I would do that style, I guess. Okay, you know, but it works and it's fucking fun, man, yeah, like it's fun fun.
Speaker 2:And just with that style you're able to get away with doing crazy wacky madcap style of effects. Yep, right, yeah, okay, it works.
Speaker 3:Exactly that style works well together. You make it fucking work.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean and, as, like I said, like as a do. Now I know when I'm kind of you know I have to build mold the whole thing Right. You know what I mean. It all goes hand in hand. The fucking what can I and what can't I pull off. Okay Well, what can we make this movie as a whole to fucking be able to pull shit like that off? Like you know what I mean. Yeah, so much work, man, so much fucking work.
Speaker 1:So then what happens? Okay, you do your movie, you're done everything. What's that last step? How do you get it into our hands? How do you get it into people's? So computers, phones.
Speaker 3:So that's where the drops come in. So we'll have 90% of it's going to be. That's why I'm doing the free clothes. So get people excited about coming to the shit they go, oh, they're excited to get the next shirt like whatever, whatever. And then I'm hoping, with this scene too, that we shoot. It kind of puts two and two together. Like I think it's still kind of a mystery, like what this thing is. You know, some people think we're just giving away free t-shirts Like that's it, like oh cool, those grillish shirts like nice. You know what I mean Like. But you know, some people hear me talking about movies, like even, I mean even my, my homie that's doing this. I mean Nick this. I mean he knows I'm making a movie but he don't know that this shit is a real fuck like a real, like Netflix theater quality movie, right. So 90% of it's going to be online. So you can see, I think I'm doing everything self-distribution. You know what I mean. So fucking, it's going to be on my website, like that's the thing.
Speaker 3:September, friday, the 13th September, you can see it on my website 100%. And then I'm also going to, I'm going to get it in the local Long Beach AMC Marine Pacifica. I just found out there's an application process for that shit, if you check all the marks which the shit should be good. Getting the theater for a couple of days, oh nice. So my big big game plan is to get it in there and then on the weekend I have it in, get in just for like three days, you know what I mean? Just a weekend. And then, while that's in three days, I hire some of like 10 dudes or something to dress up like homeless gorillas, right, and go down on second street, which is like the nicer part of town, right, and it's close to the movie theater too.
Speaker 3:And give out fucking cards or whatever that have the movie times on there or like hold out when they're also holding like signs and say, like my wife left me because I made a movie, you know stupid shit. And then hopefully it's just numbers man, so hopefully one out of 500 people go there.
Speaker 2:That's fucking rad, dude yeah.
Speaker 3:So that's, that's that's everything.
Speaker 2:That's how he gets it into people's ears and hands. Grass roots, baby, and if it all, fails, if it all fucking fails.
Speaker 3:I have a backup plan for that too, which is great. I just go to the store. Basically, there's a store in Santa Monica that pops up once a year and you can just go sell your shit if it's good enough, Like I said. But checking the boxes like and that's why it's a lot of a kind of freeing to just to know that you just have to check the boxes, Like your quality, your story doesn't have to be good, your quality doesn't have to be that, your shit doesn't have to be that good. You know what I mean. You just have to check the boxes. But if you go above and beyond and break some expectations, it's fucking a game changer.
Speaker 3:You know, what I mean so yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm excited. Hell yeah, dude.
Speaker 3:I'm tired man, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3:This is going to work Like I don't know it is going to work. Man, I've never felt I've just I've never felt so confident about something, but I've also never put as much work into the like the plan and working the plan. Like that's the biggest thing, man, the plan, holy shit. Like when I get frustrated, just look down at the plan. Oh, I don't even need to do that for two. That's not even a thing right now. I'm ahead of schedule. You know what I mean. Like fuck man paper is so underrated.
Speaker 1:I think the way that you're making everything so like unconventional, like you're before and then like you're after, I think that's what's cool, because it makes you want to be part of it. Like you said, like even if I just get a t-shirt or you know, waiting for the movie to come out, or you know, like it's just, it's cool, I just want to.
Speaker 2:I want to see these homeless gorillas passing out. That sounds so effing cool. I just want to be on the street when this shit is happening.
Speaker 3:I'll let you know.
Speaker 2:Just to people watch on, just to see the look on people's faces, to see what the fuck is going on right now.
Speaker 3:Dude, I'm going, ah, and so the gorilla, and that's the gorilla right, the gorilla.
Speaker 2:Tell me about the gorilla. What's going on with the gorilla?
Speaker 3:Dude gorillas bro. Gorillas are just fucking gorillas run the fucking creative, fucking world. Man Gorillas, it's the fucking gorilla and the gorilla right, like the fucking gorillas, obviously the fucking physical.
Speaker 2:Let's see that. Show the camera where you got right here. Are you showing the camera? There we go.
Speaker 3:I was going to wear this, but I'm going to ventilate and start fucking sweating and puke it on myself. But yeah, we say so. There's like the CEO right here, you know this guy runs the company.
Speaker 2:It's him, it's not you.
Speaker 3:I work for this, dude you know what I mean and so yeah, so it's gorilla filmmaker, it's just gorilla marketing. Gorilla, everything like just doing it on unconventional, that's what I mean. So gorilla warfare, that's it Just going to war with unconventional tactics, right?
Speaker 2:I'm so pumped up right now. You have no idea, jesus, that sounds so fucking cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's just gorilla everything, man, it's like a gorilla tactics, just straight up. That's it. It's not, wow, fucking crazy, it's just a theme. It's a theme, it's what I do, it's me.
Speaker 2:It just sounds so like from left field it is.
Speaker 3:No one's done this shit before. Exactly, I don't think.
Speaker 2:No, I would.
Speaker 3:If they are Kanye.
Speaker 2:Kanye, yeah, but as there's, like you said, there's, a certain threshold to where it's maybe a certain person with a certain following, maybe they're not entitled to having it be called the gorilla or gorilla, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, dude, but it sounds fucking amazing, dude. Yeah, you'll see it has to work right, it has to.
Speaker 3:I mean yeah, pretty much based on the plan.
Speaker 2:Do you got to look at that plan bro?
Speaker 3:Because that's it. Yeah, I mean it has to like. That's the thing, the plan it's I didn't plan on. I'm planning On being that guy. You know what I mean, and I'm yeah, it's a fucking well thought out plan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you. I see you, man, I see you. Oh, have you? Did you see that thing about Quentin Tarantino and is a? Is it his tenth film or is it his 11th? The critic about who's gonna about Shane Gillis being one of the main actors for his final film?
Speaker 3:Oh, he's one to be. These go, that's who. It's about a critic. So it's about a critic. It's about a film critic. Oh, really yeah okay. Yeah, I forget the the inner workings of it, but it's something like I think it's based on a real critic too, hmm, but yeah, it's about a critic, it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, imagine that, do Shane Gillis in Tarantino's film dude Fucking skyrocket, that fool.
Speaker 3:It'd be too. It'd be dope too cuz. I'm crazy to use someone. Yeah, else to you know. You know that's cool, like kind of roasting. I don't want to see the I don't see Leo, again I do.
Speaker 2:I Think it was so different from a Tarantino film. I like. I like Tarantino, of course. You seen the big-ass fucking poster in the hallway.
Speaker 3:I Just don't know where you could go. You know what I'm saying. I mean Gillis, no Leo. Oh, that's why I don't want another Leo in a Tarantino film.
Speaker 1:I'm just like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was kind of. Yeah, it was kind of at least seeing Shane Gillis in a huge Production like that, you know who did you?
Speaker 3:who just did you? See who the fuck was it? I saw yesterday. Ah, some kid just got tapped for the new James Bond to kind of like similar, like really like a new guy, but like huge you know what I mean opportunity. I've never even heard of this kid, I don't know. For what is this now, the new James Bond?
Speaker 2:Really, can you look up the new James Bond?
Speaker 3:So I can kind of sound like I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:No, I'm interested. New James Bond actor maybe.
Speaker 3:This guy is Aaron Taylor John. Yeah, you know who this dude is Is speculation mounts again over new James, but they're gonna do it another James Bond movie.
Speaker 1:Doing forever.
Speaker 2:Wow, what did you?
Speaker 1:say, I said who is he?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I've never seen him. I Mean, if I show you a picture of Shane Gillis, you're probably gonna say the same thing I've never seen this guy before, amber.
Speaker 3:It's not because of your, oh yeah you know that's not knowing who some of these people are too. That's a really big goal for this, for for this movie too, is that I have a really good cast. A really good cast like these dudes are, like One of my leads, lamont Oakley. I mean this dude, just you can go against, like the best of them, like they. There's a lot of theater dudes, you know not, not film guys yet and you know they go toe-to-toe with like huge a-listers on theater shit, you know, and they fucking this dude smoked them with his cast. They've got best ensemble, like two years ago at the salvation award, which basically the West Coast Tony's. Well, like against, like these huge people. Man, these dudes deserve to be somewhere.
Speaker 2:Kyle, I'm an idiot, yeah, so what? What's the? Is there a big difference between Acting in a movie and acting like in a theater? Is there different? A lot of differences.
Speaker 3:I Mean probably actors. Probably better to answer that question right for as a director.
Speaker 2:Yeah, based on your experience, Would you rather? Hire a like an actor actor or a theater actor. I.
Speaker 3:Think I'd rather hire a theater actor. Yeah, is there? They're just, they're trained for a show. Mm-hmm, actors are trained for scenes, mmm you know I'm saying yeah these actors know their whole show in and out, like day and day. You know, I mean good actors know their whole fucking movie too. But they're approaching a scene this day, a Different scene tomorrow.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, like these Okay fucking all in, all out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3:Right, you know what I mean. So, that dead. Yeah, theater dudes are just Fuck. They just don't. It sucks cuz they the reasoning the theater dudes aren't don't do as much films because they don't. You don't get the opportunity and the eater you can. Just, you can really. I mean you might not make a lot of money with it, but you can go do it a lot. It's a lot more accessible to like Be on in a show.
Speaker 2:Versus being a TV show.
Speaker 3:I see, yeah so, but there's degrees is actually to really, but definitely, yeah, theater dudes, just there's something about, and you know, most theater dudes, like actors you know traditionally like actors that aren't in theater, you know could just move. You know there's a dude you hear about like, oh, this dude was a doctor and then moved LA when he was 47 and became James Bond. Right, let's say that yeah. Or the theater guys, you never. There's a theater dudes have been in theater for like right the whole time. You know what I mean. Yeah, they've been. They grew up in theater, they fucking did theater in high school, like whatever, like that's them, that's their paintbrush, that's their art.
Speaker 3:You know, now, as a filmmaker, I get to use that into my shit, which is better, and the whole, like I said. So this is what I was going with this one is that the whole. Another big goal of this movie is like I want to be like dazed and confused In the sense that if you watch days in confused right now, like from the background, actors to the fucking a list to the front, you know top, top notch dudes, dude, almost every single person that fucking movie is recognizable in. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Like everybody.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I want from this movie. Like I want in four or five years, I want you to turn on your TV on four different channels and See one dude from each. You know what I mean. Like, what? Like maybe these four dudes once you see each one of them on different channels, like Wu Tang shit. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:You know what I heard today speaking of that, speaking of random cameo or not even Cameos. But I didn't know. Steven Wright played the, the couch guy on Half-baked. You know, had no fuck. Can you look that up? I want to see it because I haven't. I was waiting for this podcast to bring that up. Can you put Steven Wright in half-baked? I had no clue. He kind of looks like that guy. That's Steven Wright the comic. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that's fucking wild.
Speaker 2:Do you want to check this out?
Speaker 2:The cat yeah, steven Wright, there we go oh that's him it is, can't put that on the screen. I had no idea. I was like quoting, I was doing some of his jokes like over the phone, and Then one of my friend, jay homie, he was like. He was like you know, steven Wright was the couch guy in In half-baked. I had no fucking clue, dude. But stuff like that, right, but not intent. Like what you're talking about is not intentional. Like what you said about the when we were. You're talking about what? Days and a few days and confused.
Speaker 3:Well, hopefully it's intentional, kind of I mean I hope, I want, I mean I do need a lot of time getting these dudes in there, you know what I mean. I would hope that they all fucking I have one guy who's been in a bunch stick to do the play. Pert happily from Parks and Rec okay.
Speaker 3:I mean he better be in my fucking this movie man. Hey, if you ever see this man, you better be in my fucking movie. He's been a bunch of my stuff and he's just a great dude. But I wrote I usually give him stuff, that's not what he. He like everybody. He's under reporter. You know, that's his thing. He's like to read his pert, happily. But he's fucking really good at it and he's a real news reporter. I mean the dudes, that's what he's really good at. His voice is crazy. But I Was give him like a different role. That's how we got to be friends, was you know? I gave him like the serial killer fucking Roll when everybody was trying to get him to be the comedian guy, right, you know. But for this movie I wrote him in specifically as a news reporter. But it's a funny-ass joke and really hope it comes through for this one. It not comes through, it's it's on me, basically, but yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so he's the only one. He's the only one that I think is already Recognizable and I'm hoping kind of like you know just a little pieces, like I'm hoping he Makes everybody else look better too. You know what I mean, just being next to that guy, like, and then just kind of continues through that like I saw a funny. My buddy sent me this thing yesterday Fuck, what's the director's name from the before? The devil knows you're dead. It's with the Ethan Hawk and Phillips. You weren't Hoffman, right? And he said Ethan Hawke was telling the story about the director, how he would go up to Ethan Hawke and be, like dude.
Speaker 3:Do you know how fucking I much I love Phillips? You were Hoffman man. That guy's just like the best actor, like oh, I compare him though. Like so and so like, oh, blah, blah. He's so amazing, like day after day he's like this dude would just come up to me and basically suck Phillips you more. Hop is dick in my ear, right he's like fuck, and he's like so one day.
Speaker 3:He's like I'm talking to Phillips, philip on set and I'm like hey man, it's like Does this dude ever give you praise for like like this? And he says no, but does he ever give you praise for being like Brando? And he was like no and he goes, cuz he won't shut the fuck up about you being the fucking best actor.
Speaker 1:He's ever seen next to.
Speaker 3:Brando and he's like. So the whole time they're just pitting each other against each other. Oh, you know, but I'm, I want same thing just in a different way, like it's just kind of the tide, right, you know yeah was the ship rises, whatever. I don't know what the fuck that thing goes, but Everybody, everybody gets a car.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, everybody gets a shirt. Dude, oh dude, I really appreciate all the the stuff you came by and and gifted me dude name of the game. Hell yeah, man, dude. If there's anything that we can do from the podcast or anything To help you with this project, man, just reach out bro. If you need if you need more people to give stuff out, dude, we can help out with that dude. Oh, hell yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm fucking yeah free free. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:It blows my mind.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're doing. It's good shit, it's good stuff. Yeah, this is fucking image. Yeah, it's a whole it's good art.
Speaker 2:It's just nice stuff, yeah, it'd be friends.
Speaker 3:Big Prince, quality Prince.
Speaker 2:It'd be different if it wasn't. But look at the shitting.
Speaker 1:No, I think it's so cool.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, dude, oh, come on, get your free sweater, come get your free stuff.
Speaker 2:Dude, hit up Kyle Kyle.
Speaker 3:Thanks for coming out and thanks for having me man doing the podcast appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Man, go ahead and tell us where we can find you and a A little bit about your, your project in all right.
Speaker 3:Well, we got beat to make on the Instagram, so we're LB at LB, make a. That's from the guys make a movie. It looks like make you, but it's make a. And then, yeah, the website is Make a dot movie, the dot movies, the dot com. So, yeah, make a dot movie, that's it. I can tell you more shit, but I want everybody just to go to those. That's it. That's that's where I want everything. Everything movie comes out Friday, the 13th in September. Oh, we got him, we got. I told you he's. He's real, he's real. Everybody thinks I'm full of shit till the gorilla shows up.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, dude.
Speaker 3:Thank you, man, for appreciate a big time.
Speaker 2:No, I appreciate you coming out, so all the links to, to make you right, to make you make a make a, she works.
Speaker 3:it works, though it works like everybody Make a on it.
Speaker 2:Okay, all the links to make a is gonna be down in the show description. If you're listening to this on Spotify, go to the podcast Description. Everything is clickable. Check them out. And if you're watching this on YouTube, don't forget to like, comment and subscribe and go down to the link. Follow them on Instagram and check out their website. And what's the what's the date on this?
Speaker 3:film Fucking. Premiere date is Friday the 13th in September, september 13, 2024, there will be a movie made by the guys. How are you doing? All the guys make a movie. I'm excited $7. Yeah three bucks, three bucks, three bucks to watch the movie. It's only 11 bucks to get a bunch of shirts.
Speaker 2:Oh, my god, 11. All right.
Speaker 3:I mean, what can you get for $11 right now?
Speaker 2:A small cup of Starbucks coffee, maybe black black.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, no sugar in there, nothing. They won't even give you a stick to stir it for fucking 11. Oh yeah, that's awesome, man, shit's official.