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Three, two, one. What is up, Mind Buzz Universe? Welcome back to another podcast episode of The Mind Buzz. I am your host, Gil, and working the board this evening, this morning, whenever you're listening to this podcast, is a lovely Amber. How are you?
SPEAKER_02Hi, I'm good.
SPEAKER_00And the Oscar goes to To who? You.
SPEAKER_02Why?
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I'm always acting or what?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm acting like a beach.
SPEAKER_00Acting a fool. All up in here.
SPEAKER_02The Oscars are for actors, right?
SPEAKER_00Uh the after movies.
SPEAKER_02Okay, movies.
SPEAKER_00Movies, actors. Uh I don't know.
SPEAKER_02There's the Oscars, there's the Emmys. Emmys are what? For TV?
SPEAKER_00For music. No, the Emmys are for TV. No, the Emmys, the Emmys are for music.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, Grammmy. The Grammys are for music.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. See?
SPEAKER_00Oh, we can look it up and pull it up. How you been? What's up? Uh I feel like we sorry. Sorry for cutting you out. I feel like we haven't done it.
SPEAKER_01I know you asked me that you cut me off.
SPEAKER_00I feel like we haven't done a show in in forever. Doesn't it feel like that?
SPEAKER_02Did we do one last week?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we did one on Monday night.
SPEAKER_02Oh. Monday night raw. Um yeah, it feels like a long time. It does feel like a long time, actually.
SPEAKER_00Doesn't it?
SPEAKER_02I feel like because I was sick, it felt like it dragged even more.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know when you're sick and you're just like, I won't want to be sick anymore.
SPEAKER_00You just got back your hearing the other day this weekend. Partially.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you still Yeah, I thought it I thought it worked, and then today I was like, I can't hear. Oh my god. It's okay. It takes like two weeks.
SPEAKER_00And plus you have tinnitus too?
SPEAKER_02I hope so.
SPEAKER_00I was telling somebody that you you had tinnitus and they just r realized that they haven't.
SPEAKER_02Oh really?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and they're like, oh my god, like how long have you had this thing?
SPEAKER_02I mean it comes and goes.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02So it it But right now, like when I get a really bad cold, um, it'll like linger. And right now it's lingering from like my left ear. Lingering. Like when we went to the movies, and you know how it was like quiet? Yeah. And all I could hear was like, me. I was like, God damn it.
SPEAKER_00That's terrible.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's horrible. But I got my ears checked and I said that they were fine.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you know what else I heard? It's not an ear thing, it's like a neurological thing. So it's like something going on with your brain.
SPEAKER_01Oh, great, thank you. Something else.
SPEAKER_00Yes are fine. Your brain on the other hand. Uh no, but it's rotting from the inside. It's a neurological.
SPEAKER_02Um okay, thank you. Now I'm really worried.
SPEAKER_00That's what I heard.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna give it one more week. We're gonna go away in a week. It's a two weeks. ChatGBC told me two weeks.
SPEAKER_00Well for for what it's worth, the person that told me this is also a flat earther.
SPEAKER_02So are you talking to?
SPEAKER_00I have people.
SPEAKER_02So he just like dismissed the ringing in his ear the entire time.
SPEAKER_00No, he said that he's he's uh he's going to the doctor.
SPEAKER_02Oh god. Yeah, there's really like nothing that they can do. Like once it's like permanent where you just have it all day, it's there's nothing they can do. Yeah. No, you're fine. But it told me to wait two weeks after my cold. So I'll uh let you guys know in two weeks.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'll be fine. I'm good, I'm good.
SPEAKER_00You're good. Um besides that, uh how's everything else?
SPEAKER_02Everything's great.
SPEAKER_00You're good?
SPEAKER_02Everything's moving and grooving pretty good.
SPEAKER_00Book club. It's all good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Check in. I'm checking in on you.
SPEAKER_02Checking in on me. I'm I'm doing good.
SPEAKER_00This is why we do a podcast to check in on you and then to talk to guests.
SPEAKER_02No, I'm good. Why are you always making so awkward? I said, I'm good.
SPEAKER_00Okay, good.
SPEAKER_02I'm good. I don't know what else to say.
SPEAKER_00I'm good too. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you're waiting for me to ask you. No. Oh, oh, how are you?
SPEAKER_00I'm doing good. Doing fine.
SPEAKER_02Got it. Alright, I'm over you asking. Yeah, me too.
SPEAKER_00Alright, uh, you ready to get into uh today's am I ready to rumble?
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00Are you ready to rumble? Can you give me that?
SPEAKER_02No, I don't know what buttons do what. I just I just sit back here. I'm glad we only have two buttons. Three buttons, huh? Oh, three buttons. Oh, you're such a great producer, and I'm like, um, I only know three buttons, but sure, thank you.
SPEAKER_00And two of them light. No, all three, all three are different colors and they light up.
SPEAKER_01And they're like like labeled.
SPEAKER_00Uh let's bring in uh today's guest, uh very funny uh stand-up comedian. Please give it for Adam Chong.
SPEAKER_05Gilly Billy. Ladies and gentlemen, brother. What's up, man? Dude, I feel like every podcast, um, like uh third mic person, you know, like uh the Jamie. You know those dogs that like can like talk to humans with the fucking buttons? Feed me, feed me, feed me, feed me. I feel like those are just those guys, you know. They just have three buttons they go to.
SPEAKER_02I'm like the dog. Have you seen the dog that calls his owner a bitch? Yeah, yeah, you're a bitch. You're a bitch. You're a bitch. That's me right here with the buttons. You're a bitch.
SPEAKER_07Just calling everybody a bitch.
SPEAKER_02Uh that's good. Thank you. That's a first. I'm glad though.
SPEAKER_00What's up, dude?
SPEAKER_05What's going on, man? Good, chilling, dude. I'm like, uh, I had like this long run of shows. I um did a bunch of local stuff and then went to San Diego to open up for my boy Andre Kim and um had a frickin' private party for a bunch of ex-cops on Saturday. Whoa. And then Sunday last night was Chatterbox, so I'm like freaking just like so excited to just not do anything tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tuesdays I have the option to do nothing or substitute teaching Compton. So I'm definitely not substitute in Compton tomorrow, dude. Hell no.
SPEAKER_00Hell no. Well, what's up with you? Nothing much, man. Yeah, nothing much, just reading, writing, doing podcasts.
SPEAKER_05What are you reading right now?
SPEAKER_00Right now, I I'm reading a couple of things. Uh I just we just stumbled upon a a book, like a uh like a bookstore in Used Bookstore in Bellflower. Oh, sick. And I picked up a few. I have a a book on uh a book on uh how to be a working actor. I don't okay. I don't don't plan on on being a working actor.
SPEAKER_05Is the author a working actor? I didn't get that far.
SPEAKER_00Uh also there's uh a book on uh writing for television, which is pretty cool because it it's a writing book. So yeah, yeah. The only thing is it's it was written in like the 80s. Oh, okay. So some of the I guess the nuances are slurs for every punchline.
SPEAKER_05That'll get you on fucking network television. Be as racist as you can. Nah, dude. I'm so bad at all that sitcom stuff. Like, when was Seinfeld? 90s or 80s? 80s, 80s, right?
SPEAKER_00Okay, no, no, no, late 80s, it was like 89, 90. Okay, yeah, peak Seinfeld. I just started uh uh curb your enthusiasm.
SPEAKER_05Dude, I need to watch that. I want to watch that. Should I watch that or Louie?
SPEAKER_00Louis is really good, but Louis's like what two seasons that you can finish on. Yeah, it's gonna start with that two weeks if you want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only thing with that, let me know, dude, because um they the only way that you can well do you have it? Do you have it?
SPEAKER_05No, you gotta buy it off his website, yeah, which is dope. Right. I mean, I'll I'll I'll I'll give him better than Netflix, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right, yeah. Which was cool because I I thought it was gonna be on like a major, major thing.
SPEAKER_05Like HBO or something. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Have you seen Crashing?
SPEAKER_05Dude, yeah, yeah. And um I was nervous about opening for Andre the second night because the first night it was what I it I just went straight into material and I did the cold. And um, you know, it wasn't hitting as hard as as you know. It was also a Thursday night show. I'm not making too many excuses. Um there were maybe about 50 people, the room wasn't packed, but um, you know, uh I talked to like uh like a buddy and he was like, dude, watch that episode of Crashing where like Pete Holmes has to like open for whoever the hell and like he has to just riff, you just riff on the city for two minutes, and then after that they freaking love you. And then your bits will just you know what I mean? I'll just talking shit on like Latinos, like white Latinos, and how they like, you know, that's what happens when you put French fries in your burritos California burrito and shit. What city was it? San Diego. Oh, San Diego, yeah, San Diego, yeah, and I was talking shit. What else? Like, there's like biotech people, but there's also like military people, and there's like hippies over there, so I just like rift on all the neighborhoods. Literally, Chad JB Ting, like, what is this neighborhood known for? Like Ocean Beach, like people that sell crystals outside their van or whatever. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Did you hang out over there at all?
SPEAKER_05Um, yeah, I was there for one night. I stayed at a shitty motel six. Um, it smelled like cigarettes, had fucking stains all over the bed, dude. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Did you wake up with like cigarette taste in your mouth?
SPEAKER_05Dude, I'm a mouth breather. I have no chin, you know, I have no nose. I'm such a mouth breather, but um, I surprisingly I I don't even remember, dude. I went straight across the street to the McDonald's right over there and destroyed a hot and spicy McChicken value meal, dude. Oh, it's the road, dude. You feel homeless for a little bit. Yeah? Yeah, you feel homeless before the show. I was just at Andre's luxury hotel, just lobby, just like posted up with all my chargers and shit. Everyone thinks it's freaking homeless, dude. I'm like, shit.
SPEAKER_02We stayed at um like a I I think it was like a motel something too in Arizona. We were just going for literally like not even a whole night. And um, it was they made him sign a waiver of like no smoking. So I was like, oh, cool.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we got a no smoking room.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, me too. Fuck that. It was bad. Like the next morning, our hair, like I could taste the cigarette. Yeah, I literally had to put deodorant on my upper lip to sleep. I swear I had to put deodorant on my upper lip to sleep. Your upper lip smells like marble reds. Because it was just so bad, like the smell, like I couldn't fall asleep.
SPEAKER_00It was everything, it was our clothes, our shoes, all our stuff that we brought in there.
SPEAKER_05That shit gets on you, bro. Yeah, shit gets on you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's probably just years of like abuse of like smoking, and it's like the walls, the carpet, everything.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, moto people are like the cockroaches of this earth, like they'll survive anything, dude. They'll survive an apocalypse, they'll survive their wife leaving you, they'll survive everything. I believe it. Yeah, I believe it's they're strong, man. They're strong. I respect them. Wake up in the morning, it smells like cigarettes, they're like, fuck it, dude. It's a beautiful day.
SPEAKER_00It gets stuck on the wall. I remember uh one time my aunt, oh, that was a long time ago, that we used to be the house, the party house. We used to have everything there, all the funerals, uh everything like would be her house, and all the adults smoked inside her house. Oh shit. But then when like finally when she passed away, uh everybody started like taking stuff to to keep in their home, and a lot of people were taking some of the pictures off the wall. Uh-huh. Dude, you can clearly see. No way. Yeah, though. It looked like literal like yellow wallpaper. Yellow wallpaper. Oh shoot. And there was like a white square.
SPEAKER_05Oh, wow. I thought I thought my like rental people were just exaggerating on no smoking inside, but that's what happens.
SPEAKER_00It's it's a thing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's a thing. It gets in the the carpet, the wall, everywhere.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah, that's why I'm looking for rugs on Facebook Marketplace. And it's like a smoke-free home. Yeah. I'm like, oh, you nerds, dude. Hit a bowl once in a while. Like lame.
SPEAKER_02Well, now you now you know why. Take it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
unknownAll right.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say, uh, San Diego um Barrio Logan is really cool down there.
SPEAKER_05Is it a restaurant?
SPEAKER_00No, it's uh it's it's like a neighborhood. It's a neighborhood. Okay. It's a neighborhood in San Diego.
SPEAKER_05Is it down near Tru La Vista, like down south? A little bit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, close. Well, no, it's it's San Diego. Because it's like, I want to say like a mile away from the baseball stadium.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah, Pico, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice, nice, nice.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's really cool if you if you dig like that uh like artsy uh art scene. Yeah, it's right next to uh Chicano Park.
SPEAKER_05Okay, sick.
SPEAKER_00Which is uh I don't know, Chicano Park, I don't know. What is it?
SPEAKER_05There's not a lot of people that read, I feel like, in San Diego. You know, not a lot of performatives, you know, wired wired headphone fools. It's just a bunch of military bros with like really suntan.
SPEAKER_02Butter Logan, if you go there, you it there's a lot. There's a lot, there's a lot of um like art galleries. It's mostly I mean it's centered around like Chicano.
SPEAKER_05Nice, nice.
SPEAKER_02Right, and then that's where like some of the movements happened. So Chicano Park is one of the places where like the Chicano movement happened and people protested and like all these things. That's why it's kind of known for it. Uh-huh. But it's really cool. I mean, we we've gone, we went one night that was like an art night, and all the businesses were open and people were playing music outside, they had art galleries, there was poetry, there was all these things.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's yeah, but it's like literally just like strip type of things art district down there of it, but just around the Chicano culture and and Mexican American culture. It's really cool.
SPEAKER_05That's cool, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of like Chicano culture in LA. You think of like low riders, just like oldies soul music, but you know, I don't really know much about like the Chicano community in San Diego, like what their vibe is.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's it's kind of the same, actually. Oh, okay. But it's just within like that area, which strikes me because Mexico's like right there.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_02But then a lot of San Diego is pretty whitewashed and gentrified, dude.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, you see a bunch of like Latinos with like platinum blonde hair with like a military bro on their arm. I'm like, dude, this is what happens when you they put fries in the burrito, man. Gentrified ass city, you know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, like my family, my family live they live like a border life, so they live in Tijuana.
SPEAKER_05Oh, nice.
SPEAKER_02So they have their home in Tijuana, they have their family, everything, uh-huh, but they work and they cross the border daily. Oh, so they work in San Diego, uh-huh like right in Chulavista, uh-huh, and then you know, then they cross back home. That's good.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I mean you make the USD and then go back home, and you know, that dollar goes so far. That's so nice. That's smart.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so a lot of them do that. A lot of them now have like the the sentry, the card, like the global entry, so they don't do make you know they're they're not in line for that long, but there's people that are in line daily, like two, three hours just to cross.
SPEAKER_05There's people that walk too, they walk, they walk, get their teeth fixed and shit. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I will yeah, from here to there, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Dude, we don't we don't need healthcare, dude. We got chat GVT and TJ, bro.
SPEAKER_02We're fine, we're fine. We're good, yeah. We're good here in LA, dude.
SPEAKER_00We're fine.
SPEAKER_02That's funny.
SPEAKER_00Did you watch watch the uh Oscars at all?
SPEAKER_05I watched Are you into all that? Um I I kind of am, you know, unfortunately. I do kind of like I'm trying not to get so celebrity worshipy, you know. I was about to say, like, when you guys were riffing, I was like, if you guys know the difference between Grammys and Oscars, you're a freaking celebrity worshiper, you're like, you're an Epstein apologist, dude. You're crazy, you know. But no, I I do like um, you know, I watched all those movies. Yeah. Like uh One Battle and then like Sinners and then Marty Supreme, and yeah, I watched all those movies. I didn't watch Hamnet a shit.
SPEAKER_00I haven't I haven't watched that. The only thing that I watched was Sinners and uh One Battle After Another.
SPEAKER_05Which one which one you like better?
SPEAKER_00I liked One Battle.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I and then plus two, it's been a while since I've seen Sinners. I watched it in theater. Yeah, saying I can't, I I really can't remember the story.
SPEAKER_05Really, really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he was sick that day and I dragged him to the yeah, you were sick, dude.
SPEAKER_00I don't remember. Sinners was nice, dude.
SPEAKER_05Was it? It was good, bro. I liked it a lot. So who won exactly? Was it? One picture was one battle, and then Michael B. Jordan won best actress. Okay, that's fair. And then the the this white lady won best actress for Hamnet. Oh, okay. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Did you see that? Michael B. Jordan went to uh In and Out In N Out.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, many of the people, dude. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So apparently I I was reading that excuse me, that I guess it's like an old time tradition for a lot of winners to go to In N Out, and then they stopped it for like a long time.
SPEAKER_05I see like Paul Giamatti in like 2004. Yeah, he just won. Uh that that Asian bro from um Everything Everywhere All at Once. He won Best Supporting Actor and then was like In and Out.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's so there's an In N Out that's like right around the corner from where they do like the Where do they do it?
SPEAKER_05In Burbank or something?
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Pull it up.
SPEAKER_02Isn't it on the Hollywood where the that mall, that strip mall was, where the Kodak Theater used to be? I think that's where it's at.
SPEAKER_05Probably the West Side. There's an In N Out right there. I know, right? I feel like the only In N Out is like Hollywood Highland or Burbank in LA. Yeah. Since I moved to LA, I'm like, dude, I don't know. You know what?
SPEAKER_02I think they do it in Burbank. In Burbank, yeah. I think that's where it's at. It's in Burbank. I think the Oscars are the ones that are on Hollywood Boulevard. Gotcha, gotcha. One of those. Gotcha. It's crazy to think that we like live 20, 25 minutes from these places.
SPEAKER_05I know, because you guys grew up here, right? Yeah. You grew up in Paramount. What high school did you go to?
SPEAKER_00Well, not I didn't grow up in Paramount. I grew up in Whittier. Whittier.
SPEAKER_05Which is like Whittier.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Where uh some of them, I don't know. Uh I yeah, what which is what, 20 minutes away from here? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Something like that. I grew up here in Paramount. Amber grew up in Paramount. I went to Paramount High School.
SPEAKER_05Okay, gotcha.
SPEAKER_00Born and raised. Gotcha. By the way, you weren't born here. No.
SPEAKER_02I was born in Huntingham Park.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. HP. The most Mexican city in America, dude. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We were just talking about today what went to my aunt's house earlier. And then they were like, oh yeah, you were born at Mission Hospital was like the hospital that a lot of like Southeast LA kids that are my age, like 90s, um, were born in, other than Martin Luther King, because I think by that point Martin Luther King had like a really big lawsuit. Because before that, that's where everybody was born, Martin Luther King. And then um my aunt's like, oh yeah, the hospital I remember. I'm like, yeah, it's not there anymore. It's uh smart and vinyl now.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. So the other day?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it they knocked it down and then it's a smart and final. And the other day I was like, dang, I was born in the smart and vinyl.
SPEAKER_05Like taking like your kid, like, this is where you're born. Yeah, in the cereal aisle. That's where I first laid eyes upon you.
SPEAKER_02Where where are you from?
SPEAKER_05Or were we raised? Uh I was um born in LA, but my family was living in Norwalk for a year, and then we moved to Placentia in Orange County. So I've been in Placentia since I was like 18. Yeah, yeah, Placentia, dude. Yeah, North Orange County, not really like South Orange County. I don't really claim Irvine, San Clemente Vugs at all. Yeah, definitely more like Flourton, Anaheim. You don't really hear about Placentia too much. It's such a small, small town.
SPEAKER_02You have to like have been there or been there or know somebody exactly from there. That's cool. Yeah, do you live around here now?
SPEAKER_05I moved to Echo Park in September. Nice. Yeah, but before that I was in Long Beach for like three years. Nice. Have you like Echo Park? Dude, I like it a lot, dude. I like it. I like it a lot. Because I lived in LA for a little bit and I was in Los Files, and that was just way too white, bro. That was just so like performative, you know, like all those performative hipsters. Uh-huh. It's like 45-year-old dudes wearing like neon pants, like just pushing a baby stroller, but there's a chihuahua inside of it. Like, I'm like, dude, this is same, dude. I need to go back to where the real people are. You go to Long Beach for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. And Echo Park's pretty gentrified, but we live right next to Dodger Stadium, so it's like regular families and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So you live like in the there's a lot of Salvadorians where you live?
SPEAKER_05I think so. Hopefully. Are you Salvadoran?
SPEAKER_02I'm not. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_05I was about to say, I'm going to Sal I'm going to El Salvador in three weeks. I'm so excited. Are you really? Dude, I'm so excited. I went there three years ago to surf with my buddies, and we're just gonna run it. We're running it back. Yeah. I need a vacation, dude. It's nice.
SPEAKER_00How long are you gonna be over there for?
SPEAKER_05It's like five days.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that's still pretty good. It's still pretty good. Whoa. Yeah. My buddy has family out there too, so like we're we like we're like I heard it's really nice. Dude, it's nice. Yeah. Bukele, he the dictator over there, dude. He cleaned it up, bro. And it's beautiful because you see kids like skateboarding and stuff. Like you see just like 20-year-olds just going out and clubbing, and they couldn't do that stuff like f 10 years ago. So it's really beautiful.
SPEAKER_02It was it was really bad. We had neighbors where my parents were where I grew up, and um they they're like a family, they're Salvadorian, but they're a family, and they came as refugees to the US, and a lot of like the lady has I think five siblings, and they didn't take her her entire siblings, like they didn't let them come in as refugees. So one one of her sisters lives in like Europe, and then the other one's like in like I don't know, somewhere in Russia or something like that. Like they all they all got separated, yeah, but they were but she said it was like really bad, like it was getting to the point where like the gangs were taking over. She says that they remember uh it's graphic. I don't know if I could say well I don't know if I could say it. How long ago was this? I mean this is before her daughter was born, so like in the eighties, I think. Uh kind of girl for sure. But she says that like they would be in the street, like the gangs, and then like if you were out after a certain time, like they would come and then they would get women and then they would like Oh my god. Really? Yeah. Like in front of people. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad no one can see me, but you can s with that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And she's like, I remember. She's like, I remember someone like literally running, like, ah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, help, help. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02So now it's different because they they were able to retire and they were sending money to build a house, and now that it's like nice and everything, they were able to go back to El Salvador and now they live there and they retired there. And she's like, Oh, it's beautiful.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_00How long has uh Bukele been in uh whatever? He's he's like the president?
SPEAKER_05Uh like less than ten years, more than five, probably.
SPEAKER_00Do they have what is it?
SPEAKER_05He's a president or he's Palestinian. He's like ethnically Palestinian. Is he really? Yeah, there's like a lot of Palestinians in El Salvador randomly. That's true. Yeah, he's like ethnically Palestinian. Really?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's interesting.
SPEAKER_02Well, he he his his story, like So he's not even Salvadorian? No, he is Oh yes?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, I think he was born there. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02But he's like from, I guess, Palestinian.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, his parents are from Palestine. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I I wonder what people think of him now.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, because he went really extreme and he like decided to take Trump and stuff like that. Well, dude, like even if you if you if you get like a if you have a nug of bud, he'll like you know ship you to the Epcot or whatever, the maximum security prison, and you're just chick chilling with a bunch of MS-13 fools for like the rest of your life.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you're in there for like lives.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, just like making clothes with them.
SPEAKER_02Like he's like like no nothing, nothing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he's like, yeah. So it's that's why I'm like dictator, you know, but also like you know, for the people that don't smoke weed, they're living good, I guess, you know.
SPEAKER_02But even like when I went to it to travel to other countries that are kind of ran by because I I went to Cuba. I went to Cuba in 2018, no, 2019 I went.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02And it was like they were like, nobody here owns guns, so you're fine. Nobody here really owns like a pocket knife or anything. Like, so you're you're good, and you're a tourist. They're like, no one will touch tourists. Yeah, it's like you're condemned to death if you do something to a tourist. Oh, okay. And I was like, Oh, okay. Uh, I'm kind of safe.
SPEAKER_00I I felt safe, but you still feel like something kind of how long were they open for they they weren't open for that long.
SPEAKER_02No, they probably maybe like a year and then they recovered.
SPEAKER_00So they had all these rules in place even before they opened it, or Cuba was close to the US for years, like a lot of years.
SPEAKER_02Like how long? Like over maybe 25-30 years. The only way that you could as an American you could go into Cuba was if you were you had a nationality, like a passport with another country. So, like I had some family members that had gone and they had their Mexican passport and they let Mexican they love Mexicans, so they let Mexicans go in.
SPEAKER_05Why do they love Mexicans?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I I don't know because we had like a couple of like tour guides, like people that that you know guided us in there. Yeah, and he was like, Oh, you guys speak Spanish, and we're like, Yeah, and we're like, We're Mexican, he's like, No way. He's like, We get um, so they used to bootleg, like they used to do some kind of wiring. Someone would go to Mexico and then come, and then they would bring this like huge hard drive and it was full of novelas, uh Mexican like TV shows and all these things. So a lot of them see it or they watch that, like, and they're not supposed to be watching it because they're they should only be watching what is being televised. Yeah, um, but obviously they're doing it, you know, contraband. So he'd be like, Oh, my wish is to like own like a like a Mexican hat and then like a tejana, yeah, yeah. And then he would tell us like phrases that they would do like in the novelas, like the narcos, and he'd be like, Oh man, he's like, I think about it every day. He's like, I've never met a Mexican. He was so excited to meet us. And I remember one of the days he came to pick us up, and he was in a Bel Air, it was like a 60, no, it was like a 55 Bel Air. And he comes and then he's like beep, beep, beep, and then he he turns up the radio and he has like Vicente Fernandez blasting, and he was so excited, and I'm like he's like, No, he's like, all the Cubans love Mexicans, he's like, Mexico really helped us, and blah blah.
SPEAKER_05So I'm like, Cubano, man.
SPEAKER_02So I was like, all right. So the whole time I was like, Oh, I'm from Mexico, I'm from Mexico. I wouldn't say from the US because they don't like us.
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02And now they don't like us even more.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I bet.
SPEAKER_05For sure. For sure.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And other countries too.
SPEAKER_05A lot of countries.
SPEAKER_02Anytime I travel, I don't say I'm American.
SPEAKER_00You say you're Mexican?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. They're like, oh, what are you? I'm like, oh, Mexican.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. When I was in um like Europe and say I'll I'm I'm I'm American, it's just immediately Trump talk. And I'm like, Are you serious? I don't give a shit, man. Yeah, it's immediately Trump talk. Immediately. They were like a reality show for all those fools. They love us. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. And our media just runs the world, you know. Everyone's, you know, watches Oscars and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02Somebody somebody in Dubai asked me, he's like, So is everybody fat?
SPEAKER_01You already asked me, is everybody fat? And I was like, and I'm all fat.
SPEAKER_05I'm like, uh dude, American stereotypes are hilarious, dude. Just fat and just like racist and you know, backpacks for some reason. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00We all have a where we wear a backpack for some reason.
SPEAKER_05School shooter thing or something. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02The way they see us is like, like you said, like a reality show or just like this like comedy show that's happening. Uh-huh. That's kind of sad, huh? People were all trying to. It's good for us.
SPEAKER_05We're you know, we're in comedy, so we can, you know, we have a lot of shit to talk about.
SPEAKER_02That's true. That's very true.
SPEAKER_00What country were you in, or what did you visit in Europe?
SPEAKER_05Um, I quit my nonprofit job that I was at for a year and a half, that I got right after college. I hated it. I was making like 17 an hour. It was like grueling work because we were like there was only like two full-time employees there. It was for a good put cause. It was like Korean American Coalition. It was like for my people, I was like, thought I was gonna freaking become like the mayor of LA after and be like, yeah, he worked in nonprofit, and then he became a lobbyist, and then he be you know, like that's what I thought I was gonna be. But then I hated it, dude. I hated being in the office all day, bro. Um, but so then I went to Europe and visited my sister, she was like studying abroad in Germany, and I went to like 15 cities, like 10 different countries for like two months. Yeah, it was really fun. You did the URL thing, took the train everywhere. No way, dude. It was really fun, bro. Yeah, that was before that was two months in like a month and a half into comedy. So I quit my job, started stand-up for a month and a half, and then went to Europe for two months, and then COVID happened. Yeah, and then I started like doing parking lot mics and shit. That's why this that's why this mic's legendary, dude.
SPEAKER_00This is like, you know, how how was that, dude? How was doing stand-up? I guess I started stand-up after the pandemic? After the pandemic.
SPEAKER_05I was a dude, it was all like red pill fools. Like there was this place called um, I forget, but it was in like West LA. This guy named like some like something getty um did it, and it was just a bunch of like red-pilled white comics in like Culver City in a backyard, and everyone's just like smoking weed and just like getting wasted, you know, because everyone's like been so pent up in the pandemic. But there was also like Gino Riccardi's like park park mic and Hillcrest Park in Fullerton, and then he'd do it like parking lot mics, and then yeah, dude. There was a lot of just parking lots. I was just in parking lots in parks for so long. I felt like I was in high school, which was cool, you know. I was like, I I understand this.
SPEAKER_00I've seen like pictures and in alleys, like people would would do mics in the alleys anyway.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. Chaos was open during that time, and then everyone was. Oh, in the the alley in the yeah, whoa.
SPEAKER_02Did you do any zoom ones? I had seen people doing like comedy on Zoom.
SPEAKER_05Dude, I think I did one zoom one and I blocked it from my memory. Like if you're like a if you're like a like a like a smart one-liner, you know, amazing joke stretcher fool, um, great, you know what I mean? But then also you can't really perform on a zoom mic. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You're all at home in your socks, yeah.
SPEAKER_05You're yeah, in your underwear, like talking about the pandemic and shit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that must be hard.
SPEAKER_05I have to be strange.
SPEAKER_02During the pandemic, somebody did uh a show and they were charging like 40 bucks to see it and just on Zoom.
SPEAKER_05You don't remember?
SPEAKER_02I sent it to you.
SPEAKER_05People were hungry for anything, dude. That's why TikTok's so like lit right now, or it's still lit, because people just needed entertainment.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. The pandemic feels like a fever dream sometimes.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was nice. It was cool though. It was nice. It was nice. Those stimmy checks got me my apartment in Los Files, dude. Oh, there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wasted all that money, but you know, got me out of the house.
SPEAKER_00And you were taking a break before then, right?
SPEAKER_05Mm-hmm. Because I didn't do comedy in Europe, you know. I was only a month and a half in. I wasn't gonna like DM like the Berlin Comedy Club people and be like, hey, whatever. I probably could have, you know, but I just wanted to hang out. They would have put you up. I just wanted to hang out. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, that'd have been cool.
SPEAKER_02What got you into comedy?
SPEAKER_05Um, I didn't want to do anything else. You know, everything else is just lame and boring. And I was like class clown, and I was like, and I did like improv and sketch comedy in college. I went to like a really hippie, like small liberal arts college where like a lot of people like did like like arts were cool. Like if you had a DJ show, you were cool. If you had like if you were in theater and stuff like that, you're cool. So I was like, okay, like I'll do improv and sketch. I had a buddy Elliot that was like, dude, you should do this, and then I made both teams the same the first audition, and that that's like a big deal, I guess. And they're like, Oh, you're so good, you know. I was like, Okay. Yeah, and then just did improv shows every Friday night and stuff. Did sketch shows like one time per semester. It was fun, dude. A lot of those guys still do comedy too. Really? Yeah, a lot of those guys, yeah. Like Allie Lawrence, my co-sketch leader, she's like killing it in New York, and then Molly McLean, she's out here in LA too. She's like a year younger than me, she's from Portland. Yeah, I just did improv and sketch comedy with those guys like my for like four years, yeah. Whoa. It was cool. It was cool.
SPEAKER_00Any uh any nuances from sketch and and improv to take to stand up?
SPEAKER_05Uh I think improv helped me with crowd work. Yeah. Just thinking on my feet. Yeah. Sketch, I my biggest insecurity in life is I never written a sketch that made the sketch show. And I was like the captain of the sketch team. So I was like such a bad writer. I'm still like learning how to write, you know what I mean? I'm like better now, but you know, like writing a sketch and just like sitting down and just like writing, you know, like I just like it, it's it's something that I've had to work on for the past few years. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Do you do that for stand-up?
SPEAKER_05Um, like sitting down and writing and stuff like that? Yeah, yeah. I'll like have an idea and like set it down and put it on my notes app, uh-huh. And then like maybe like when I have some time, just like go to a coffee shop and just like see what all the bullshit I have and just gonna try to expand.
SPEAKER_00Are you the type of person that needs to like be in like a coffee shop to write, or can you just get anywhere?
SPEAKER_05I I feel like it helps me when I feel like people are watching me. You know what I mean? Like, oh, this guy's just at a coffee shop, not doing shit. You know what I mean? I'm like, I gotta prove myself. I gotta prove myself, I gotta do work, you know. Yeah, but then if I'm home alone, I'm just gonna be like scrolling Instagram or something like that, you know. Yeah, yeah. So easily distracted, bro. It's TikTok, dude. Dude, it's TikTok, dude. I gotta get my screen time down, bro. What's your screen time at? I don't know. You can check it, right? Mine's at like six, seven hours. It's bad, bro. It's bad.
SPEAKER_02How do you check it?
SPEAKER_05It sends you a report, a weekly report.
SPEAKER_00Social two hours and twenty minutes, utilities 41 minutes, protect uh productivity and finance 33 minutes.
SPEAKER_05Oh, you're good, bro. You're like at three and a half hours.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but that's for the week, and we just where I'm gonna do it. No, this is for today. Oh, that's good. Oh, today within two hours. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to honestly do, I'm trying to be off my phone as much as possible. Reading helps. It does, and then it doesn't. Because sometimes I I that's why I have to get something that that's why I'm reading like three different books right now. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Because I get yeah, I get kind of a psychopath if you read one book all the way through.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it I feel that that is, but I mean I like that's why I like audiobooks.
SPEAKER_05Dude, yeah, I listened to the right when I moved to LA, I saw that you posted about the Jimmy Carr book. Oh, okay. And then I and then I listened to the audiobook just like biking around Elegian Park. Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It gave me a lot of like yeah, just it's just nice to hear from Jimmy Carr's book is so good because it's not just every comic should listen to it. It's not just him talking about just comedy, but it's like more his life it's like positive, yeah. It's like very positive the way he he talks about it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Like what what are you thinking about right now? Like, like what what's one positive thing that he like talked about?
SPEAKER_00Uh I can't remember.
SPEAKER_01It was so positive.
SPEAKER_00It was so positive that it was what is it called? Laughter and dude, it's been such a long time.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but one thing I got from it was just like he's a nerd. He didn't he he was sober the whole time, you know, and that's what made me want to like be sober, sober for a while, you know, for like two months or whatever.
unknownFor a while.
SPEAKER_05He gave me the courage to become sober. Yeah, he did, he did.
SPEAKER_02Two months is two months.
SPEAKER_05Two months is two months. Oh, that's what it's called. Before and laughter. Before and laughter, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So he he did stand up the entire time sober?
SPEAKER_05I think so, yeah. He was like, Yeah, yeah. Like, like until he like, I think like 24 to 34, I don't think he like drank at all or anything like that. Crazy, dude. Respect. His whole thing was like, I'm gonna suffer today so I don't suffer tomorrow. Like I'm gonna suffer, like grind so hard right now, so like when I'm 35 and 40 or 50 or whatever, you know, I'm like, I don't regret where my career's at right now. And that kind of hit me hard. I was like, oh shit, I gotta work hard right now, so I don't become a sad old man.
SPEAKER_00It's like that with it's like that with anything though. Yeah. Right? Yeah. To to just grind out whatever you're learning, whatever you're doing now, so that way you can sew what the sow the the fruits of your loins or something like that. Labor. Whatever.
SPEAKER_02Your loins is like something else. Yeah. But I think our generation is like I I'm lumping you in with our generation.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02But you're probably on the on the younger side of ours.
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_02But I feel like we're somewhere in the middle with like I feel the generation before us, maybe like our parents, that was the thing, right? You just work, work, work, put your head down, or at least my parents.
SPEAKER_07Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02Put your head down, work, and then you're you enjoy your life. After.
SPEAKER_05After when your kids are gone.
SPEAKER_02Like, not gone, but you know, have left. When your kids have died out.
SPEAKER_05No, like when you're when your kids die in a car crash, that's when you can be happy.
SPEAKER_02In an accidental car crash. No. When they're, you know, they left your house and everything. And then once you retire, that's when you and I'm like, fuck no.
SPEAKER_05I know, I know, I know. And I don't know. Do you think phones did something that to us? Like, we got so much instant gratification as like children that like we need to have at least a little bit of instant gr instant gratification during our 20s and 30s.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, maybe.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But there's something about our generation. I mean, we've had this conversation several times where I feel like there's days where I wake up and I'm like, when am I gonna be an adult? Like I don't feel like I am a full adult. Yeah. Like we pay rent, we pay our car, you know, we have groceries, like everything that entails you being an adult, we do, but I don't feel like an adult.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I think it's where the kids and the white picket fence come. Like you own a home and have kids. Think so? I think so. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because I guess the our perception of an adult is that. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Depending on w where and how you were raised, I guess.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right? So your perception of of an adult is pretty much the people that raised you. So if you lived like your parents or or try to live like your parents, then whatever their success is, is your that's that's how you you gauge what your success and what your version of an adult is. Yeah, that's true. Okay, I totally agree. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm not having the kids, so maybe the white pick events.
SPEAKER_05You guys can adopt a little El Salvadorian kid, dude.
SPEAKER_02No, we're good.
SPEAKER_05I'm good.
SPEAKER_02We don't wanna Filipino. We don't wanna adopt, we don't wanna have, we don't want nothing.
SPEAKER_05No, dude, more power to you, dude. Dual income couples, happiest people on earth, I feel like. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, travel and stuff.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like there's days that I'm just like, oh, what do I have to worry about today? And I'm like, nothing.
SPEAKER_05That's that's amazing, dude. That's amazing. Maybe that's when you feel like an adult, when you just you know you're free from all the bullshit.
SPEAKER_02That's true. Yeah, maybe I'm somewhere, somewhere in the middle. Yeah, I just I still think of like, oh shit. I can I mean I've I'd said this example plenty of times, but that's when it realized when I was like, oh, I can buy cereal now, yeah. I can eat it at whatever fucking time I want. Like I was like, oh, I'm an adult. Hell yeah. That's when it hit me. But other than that, I'm just like, oh, okay. Yeah, what do you mean I have to make my own doctor's appointments?
SPEAKER_00Oh my god. That's when I'm like I gotta wash my own fork. Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Sucks. I gotta buy toilet paper. Yep. I think that was the the first time when when I first bought toilet paper for myself, and I was like, damn, this sucks.
SPEAKER_05Like I have to spend 15 bucks.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I have to make sure that I have this like for the rest of my life. Yeah. You you think about that, dude. You have to buy toilet paper for the rest of your life.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_02Unless you get a bidet.
SPEAKER_05That is true. You get all Japanese out and you start bideting all the time.
SPEAKER_02That's why I've been we've got to bidet.
SPEAKER_00So if we get a bidet, you're not gonna we won't get paper, we won't get toilet paper?
SPEAKER_02No, I mean you will, but I mean, think about how how much toilet paper are you actually gonna consume with a bidet? Yeah. You're only using paper.
SPEAKER_00How about this?
SPEAKER_02What if we just get hold on, you're only using toilet paper with a bidet because you're not you don't have full confidence in the bidet just yet.
SPEAKER_00What if we have like a his and her like little rag?
SPEAKER_05No, you got one side, she gets the other?
SPEAKER_00Like a walk, like a washclass.
SPEAKER_05Use my side.
SPEAKER_00Use my side. No, thank you.
SPEAKER_02No, no, I clean the toilet and I want that would look like.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god, dude.
SPEAKER_00Decorations?
SPEAKER_02No, thanks. I'm good.
SPEAKER_00It's Christmas.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you still need toilet paper.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, to blow your nose, I guess.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_05No, that's when you're adult, when you you buy Kleenex instead of toilet paper, dude. You're that income to buy different pit types of paper. Holy shit. That's true. Shit, dude. That's true. Yeah, I'm still using freaking um paper towels as my as paper plates. You know, you make a sandwich, you're not getting a freaking plate out of it. You just put it on some paper towels.
SPEAKER_02Paper towel? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Easy. Sometimes you I just throw it on the table.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I hate when he gets in the house. Yeah, that's cool.
SPEAKER_05Just like wipe it off after or something. You just have breadcrumbs there for seven days. No respect. Not in my house. That's respect. That's manly, dude. You slap a white bread on the table and you're just right there.
SPEAKER_00PB and J, a little, a little, you know, peanut butter on the table. Just wipe it down a little bit. It's fine. Go like that, yeah. It's fine. It's easy.
SPEAKER_01I don't like it. Why?
SPEAKER_00What's wrong with that?
SPEAKER_02You know what's wrong with that.
SPEAKER_00I know.
SPEAKER_02I clean my counter equally.
SPEAKER_00That's why you that's why you haven't uh grocered any uh peanut butter or bread.
SPEAKER_02That's what I don't know how to act. So you can use a plate and you get your peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
SPEAKER_00You know what I do like? I do like making sandwiches on top of uh those uh blocks of wood.
SPEAKER_02Like a cutting board.
SPEAKER_00Like a cutting board.
SPEAKER_02Blocks of wood.
SPEAKER_05That's also a table right now. Yeah, I'm a cutting board guy too. I was like um really into like um dieting and not eating delicious foods like a year ago, and I would just put like steak and like eggs on a cutting board, and just like I got like manosphere's a little bit. Did you? Yeah, put some blueberries and honeys on that bitch, dude. I just fucking go to town.
SPEAKER_02You were pure protein?
SPEAKER_05I was pure protein vibes. My shits were gnarly, but I did get a little skinny. Yeah. You did? I got a little skinnier.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I got a little skinnier. Did you do any like weightlifting, any anything like that?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I was like a big runner, but now I'll like I would I I was running when I was like 240, you know? And I would I skateboarded during the pandemic and destroyed my ankle one time. I literally cried at my high school parking lot because I tried to Ollie over a speed bump. My fucking ankle just blew up. So now I have like plantar fasciitis and shit. Like that, I'm all fucked up, you know. I'm I like you know, so now I'm like biking and you know, I surf at least like twice a week, and then you know, weightlift. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00You can get the you can get plantar fasciitis from an injury.
SPEAKER_05I got it from uh jogging uphill. I felt like a tendon like snap, dude. It was like second week. Of the NFL season, I was with like Buster and uh Mario and we're running uphill and I just thought I was like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Isn't it the worst pain? It's just shooting like needles.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god. Oh my god. Yeah, I I just turned 30 like two weeks ago. Oh and I'm like, my body is just I'm gonna have a have a free stretch appointment tomorrow at Stretch Med in Glendale. See how see how I see see how to you know learn how to stretch.
SPEAKER_02Once you hit 30, your body is not the same. Dude, I know.
SPEAKER_05I'm sorry, dude.
SPEAKER_02I'm I'm five years into 30 and my lower back is shot.
SPEAKER_00Is that how you felt when you turned 30?
SPEAKER_05I mean, I've been dealing with like lower back stuff because I've been like, you know, I've been an active guy, but I've held so much like extra weight around me, you know? So um, you know, it was just like so much pain. I didn't have any core strength at all, and I was like surfing for five years, so like all the all the weight just went to my like lower.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you've been surfing for a long time.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, like five, six years.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05That's cool, dude. It's fun, bro. Yeah, yeah. It feels like you're a kid again, you know? Just like wind on your you know when you're like riding bike down a hill with your frozen. Oh, dude, that's funny. Yeah, that's so fun. So fun. Yeah. So fun. So fun. So fun. I know. It's like going to the doctor, you know, surfing, chat GBT, freaking freaking TJ. We don't need healthcare in America, dude.
SPEAKER_02We're good.
SPEAKER_05You're like, that's good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Do you do you guys have to get up like really early to surf?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. The waves are in California are better in the morning because the winds shift. Like when the wind is going towards the ocean, that's when the waves are super like groomed and like flat and like um like silky clean, like a pond, like a lake, like super still. And then the wind shifts, the wind starts coming from the water to the to the land. That's when the fucking water gets all bumpy and stuff, and you don't want to do that. Yeah. I sound like a freaking weather man out here.
SPEAKER_02There's a lot of science behind that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But but Tuesday's weather is gonna be No, I know.
SPEAKER_05Literally.
SPEAKER_02Our waves here are not a they're they're big, right?
SPEAKER_05But they're not like no, no, nowhere near like Hawaii and stuff like that. I can't imagine those. Yeah, that's why they say like Hawaiians say, like, oh, it's two feet Hawaiian, but you but you but it's literally like six feet tall. Whoa. It's like it's like bigger than this room. But like Hawaiians over there are just like so used to big waves, they're like, Oh, that's like two feet. Like, no, it's not, dude. I'm from California, I'm a puss. You're like, hell no. Hell no.
SPEAKER_00What's the biggest wave you've caught so far? Like a six foot wave.
SPEAKER_05Six foot? Yeah, six-foot wave. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Is it on a scale of one to ten, how how like difficult is learning how to surf?
SPEAKER_05Uh, I say like seven or eight. Yeah. If you uh if you skateboarded a lot when you're a kid like me, uh it's if maybe feel like a six or seven, but it's hard, bro. Like balancing and stuff like that. It took like it takes everyone like it took me at least like three months of going like all the time to like stand up, you know. Yeah, and that's just like winding riding the white water. Yeah, not even like the water. Not even like a wave, right? Not even the wave, yeah. Yeah, Viet just stood up for the first time and he was uh like like last week. Yeah, it was sick seeing him like catch a wave, like act, you know, and he was been going for like you know, maybe like once or twice a week for a year. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Do you do anything else uh physical besides uh surfing?
SPEAKER_05I like biking. I got like a little Japanese road bike that I like you know, try to jump. Japanese road bike? Yeah, like a little like Facebook marketplace for like one hundred sixty bucks, a little skinny tires. Oh, okay. Yeah, a little skinny like a street bike? Yeah, I like a street bike. Oh okay. Yeah, I'll do that and then I'll sneak into the LAPD Academy gym, dude. Because my dad was a cop. He's like, Yeah, just go walk in. It's fine. Go walk in. Yeah, because the door's always open. Yeah. And I live right there. You know, the LAPD Academy is right next to Bobber Stadium, so I'll just like go in there and just like I don't know. Hopefully no one, no cops listen to this, dude, because I love that gym, dude. Fuck. Do they still do the car shows there at the uh I don't know, like in that on the hills or at the academy?
SPEAKER_02I think they used to do it on the hills.
SPEAKER_05I could see that because there's a bunch of like drifting marks around there, and a bunch of people just post up and like smoke and like the skyline. Well, we used to be a little bit more.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they don't give a shit, dude. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean the the car shows we used to go, my dad used to have a muscle car, so it was like sponsored by the police academy and all that, so that it was curated by them, so I don't know about like other cars, but yeah, yeah, it was cool.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, my friend just DJ'd like a soul event up there, and it was just a bunch of oldies and oh that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like SoulDs, like the new genre that's happening now, or is it older bands?
SPEAKER_05Old school souls soul music, yeah. Straight uh straight cat soul club. Shout out shout out my boy Big Sunday, Matt, dude. He's cool.
SPEAKER_00What kind of music do you like, dude?
SPEAKER_05Dude, I like funk music, like disco. Do you really? Yeah, like you know when that you know Alyssa Lou like uh skated to Donna Summers? You like that Donna Summers stuff? Yeah, I like that like BGs and just like that kind of stuff. Old school, yeah, old school stuff, yeah. Also, I got into like a big Jim Crouchy thing like past year because I you know I like camping and like back back country stuff, so like sad folk country music too. Really phase with that. I was crazy. You know, I had phases. When I was a kid, I was just like ASAP Rocky, like Kendrick Lamar and stuff. Yeah, but most consistently it's like disco, like funk.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Yeah, I I'm kind of getting into like some 70s vibes lately for some reason. Yeah, I don't know what it is. You got an older dude in groovier.
SPEAKER_05I know you hit me with the groovy today. I was like, hell yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I've been saying that for years. Dude, hell yeah. I I think I I'm moving decades because for a very long time I was like super into like 60s music.
SPEAKER_05Really?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like Bob Dylan or something, like Bob Dylan, like the RB oldies, like rock and roll oldies, like of course, uh like psychedelic rock from the 60s, 70s. Uh but yeah, I'm I'm like moving towards like the like the funkelic stuff from the 70s.
SPEAKER_05Dude, yeah, just like cocaine New York, Brooklyn. Pretty much. Yeah, yeah. Cocaine LA stuff. Cocaine, yep, yep, yep, yep. I'll send you my playlist. You'll like it.
SPEAKER_00Send it, dude.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I'll send it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm always looking for for new music.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, like the music gets you off the phone. Yes. Yeah, like stop listening to podcasts and stuff like that. Like, I need to listen to more music like more often.
SPEAKER_00What I did, I was, I think I was, I don't know, I was going through like a weird thing like a couple of weeks ago. It was like a Sunday afternoon. Amber wasn't there. I was alone in the parking lot. I mean the parking lot, I was alone in the apartment.
SPEAKER_04Amber's there, you're just in the parking lot, yeah, just walking around. Does it feel like home with the other thing? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00No, I was I was in the apartment. It was a nice day, dude. And I just I don't know, man. I was just going through it like mentally, and I was like, man, I I'm feeling like shit, you know. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to music, I'm gonna put my phone away. I put on um uh electric uh orchestra on and I listened, I found one of their songs and I listened to the full album. Oh dude on I was like, hey Alexa, uh play this album and full blast, and I just laid there on my bed and listened to the whole album. And dude, I 45 minutes, yeah, sober. Let's go, let's go. Sober 45 minutes later, dude. I felt so much better. Yeah. Just from listening to music, and after that album was done, uh it went to uh some other songs. I was like, I know. I th I think I'm I feel a lot better now.
SPEAKER_05Man, I gotta I gotta I gotta listen to that album.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, let me yeah, you gotta show that. Let me tell you what it is. But dude, I felt so much better, dude.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, dude. It yeah, it does it does change your mood a lot for sure. It does change your mood a bunch. That's why that that that happy disco stuff just definitely is like my go-to already. Yeah, and then you're like Yeah, before a show and stuff like that, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I I Oh there it is. It's uh Electric, so it's electric, light, orchestra, a new world record. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Let me see the songs on it. There's like one song I feel like I know. I'll do Tyropa sick, too.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that album. Oh, dude, telephone line?
SPEAKER_05Telephone line.
SPEAKER_00This one.
SPEAKER_05This is like OG Daft Punk vibes, huh? Yeah. Hell yeah. I'll listen to that on the way home. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like a classic, like, I feel like this is the end of a Tarantino movie. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Dude, so this came on uh on a uh like a playlist, uh-huh, and I was like, what wait, what the fuck is this? Yeah, and I looked at it, I was like, I gotta listen to their whole album. Uh-huh. And that's the album that I listened to. It made me feel so much better.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, the best songs are like, there's like an arc to it, you know, like a they're telling a story, it's like show in the beginning, and then yeah, those are the best songs.
SPEAKER_00I feel like the the art of like a concept album is is not there anymore. Like who's who's out here doing concept? Unless I well, because I I don't really listen to to like new new music as much. Maybe maybe I'm out of turn, maybe I'm wrong for saying that.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_00But I feel like it is I don't know, do you listen to to anything like new? Do they have concept albums now?
SPEAKER_05Honestly, I don't listen to a lot of stuff new. No, no, no, I don't. Yeah, I'm trying to think. You know, I'll like I'll like listen here a song on TikTok and I'll blast that for a little bit. I wanna stay site. I wanna win.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that song, that song goes up pretty hard, you know. Like imagine imagine that, but a full concept album. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05That'd be cool. You know what I mean? I mean, yeah, it kind of sucks. Like, yeah, there's no concept albums and for musicians, and now there's no more, just they're just putting out singles like how we're just putting out clips. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's true.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I I noticed that I used to listen to music before like a lot more. And now if I'm doing anything, I put like YouTube on. Yeah, exactly. I like let TikTok go and I'm like speaking. But I've lost like my love for music. Yeah. Listening to music. Because I used to do everything with music. Yeah. I used to carry this little radio I had, and I used to put it in the restroom because we didn't have, you know, and then I take it out, and then I'd get ready with music, and then in the morning, music, and it was and now I hardly listen to anything. Whatever I listen to is whenever we're in the car, and that's that's about it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I'm like, oh that sucks. I know. But then again, I don't I don't listen to anything new either. There isn't anyone that I'm like, oh yes. Like, I don't know. Maybe we're getting old.
SPEAKER_00Harry Harry Styles?
SPEAKER_05No, Harry Styles. No, what the heck?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Uh who else is new?
SPEAKER_05I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Who do we even know? Cardi B.
SPEAKER_05Cardi B.
SPEAKER_02Cardi B. I like Cardi B. Ice Spice? Ice Spice.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean, I like Cardi B as a I guess a person or an artist.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02But I can't tell you, oh, I've listened to an entire album or I listened to everything that came out. Like, no.
SPEAKER_00No, yeah. Macho Man, Randy Savage.
SPEAKER_05Split the heck. You're a wrestling guy, dude. I love it.
SPEAKER_00He came out with uh with a diss album. Oh respect. He did, he kissed. He uh Hulk Hogan.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay. Alright, I like that. He's racist as well.
SPEAKER_00He wasn't even they weren't even like wrestling together. I think uh Hulk Hogan was doing his thing in WCW. Do you are you familiar with with wrestling? No? No. Well, okay, let me let me give the synapses of it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, the storytelling's amazing. I know that. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Uh so Hulk Hogan was doing his thing in in WCW, right? And then um Macho Man was I think he like retired. Uh Vince McMahon from WWF uh made him retire. He went to WCW, didn't make it in WCW, so he left. And yeah, he he blamed Hulk Hogan for a lot of like the the reasons why like he didn't make it.
SPEAKER_05Because Hogan like stole his spotlight and pretty much didn't need him anymore.
SPEAKER_00Pretty much.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02So he made a song?
SPEAKER_00He made a whole album. He made a concept album, dude.
SPEAKER_05That's crazy. That's like an older rapper, like Kanye just like dissing like Playboy Cardi or something because he took his spot or whatever.
unknownThat's funny.
SPEAKER_00Who who was the guy that did that song? Um uh thrift shot. What is it? Thrift shot.
SPEAKER_05I'm gonna talk Macklemore, yes, and then he won the Oscar or the Grammy or whatever over Kendrick, and everyone got all pissed and stuff.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because it was like rapper or something, right? RB or something like that. No, it was album of the year.
SPEAKER_00It was album of the year, it was between both of them, and then I think McLamore. I I just watched a video on this the other day. Uh huh. McLamore uh texted uh what was the other guy's name?
SPEAKER_05Oh Kendrick, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, Oh yeah, you got snubbed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he was like, You got robbed, you should have won, you know, uh I feel bad or whatever, right? Uh along the lines of that. And he tweeted it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. Yeah, to show the world that he's a yeah, simp for Kendrick. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And then after that, that was it, dude. His his uh his albums that he did after that kind of just sucked, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I wonder if like the music industry is gonna change anytime soon. I feel like we've been it's been dominated by TikTok.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like what the best background music for your reel of you cutting an onion is.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah. Like sometimes I I think it's cool when they bring back songs, right? That sometimes like that they use, but then I'm like, oh, that sucks. Like they're the kids are probably not gonna take time to look up, you know, that singer or whatever.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00And I'm like, oh, like that grunge chick from the from the 90s. What song was it?
SPEAKER_02She was from uh Four Non Blondes.
SPEAKER_05Four non-blondes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. She did that one, and then the one right now that's uh when they're like, Dad, who were you in the nineties? Remember Iris, Google Dolls?
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, Google dolls. Iris. Yep.
SPEAKER_02See, but that's as far as they're gonna go. They're they're just gonna know TikTok length. What did my cousin tell me the other day? She was like, You're talking TikTok again? Because everything now I'm like, oh, on TikTok, oh, on TikTok.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I'm like, oh my god, oh my dream.
SPEAKER_05She's like, You're talking TikTok.
SPEAKER_01No, no, I didn't go that far.
SPEAKER_02But even now, like I I before I used to be like, oh, I read an article that said this, and now I want to say, I'm inclined to want to say, I read an article, but I didn't read an article I saw on fucking TikTok, and I feel dumb being like even what I said earlier, too.
SPEAKER_00I feel dumb saying I seen a video. Yeah, I seen a video and talked, you know. The the other day I I actually read, I didn't finish it. I should have finished it. I read a uh an interview with uh Drew Carey and uh Playboy magazine. Oh, that was the coolest thing ever, man. I think it was it was the coolest thing ever. He talked about like some really deep vulnerable stuff. I was like, dude, this is like in a magazine forever, and you're talking about this stuff. Yeah, it was wild.
SPEAKER_05Now it's just podcast episodes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it is. Yeah, as we're on it, as we're on uh I wonder if Drew Carey had do you have you seen Drew Carey Standout Battle?
SPEAKER_05Uh Jim Carrey? Drew Carey. Drew Carey. No, I haven't. No, no, it's fun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he has some really fun stuff. Yeah. His uh uh did you watch any sitcoms uh as you know growing up?
SPEAKER_05Like freaking Family Matters and like um George Lopez and Fool House, um, yeah, that kind of shit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, do you remember George Lopez doing any of his like stand-up jokes, making them like uh into like sitcom episodes?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. No, I don't.
SPEAKER_00Or at least like some dialogue in there.
SPEAKER_05I could feel like it's pretty much just like a long uh stand-up set, like a season of his television show. I can see that.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but I remember him talking about having like a mean mom and like Benny was so mean and that shit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. So Drew Carey did a couple like I watched a few of his episodes, like uh in the earlier seasons, and he did some of his stand-up jokes as a dialogue as he was talking to like his his people. And I thought that was and I thought that was like the coolest thing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, dude. I just remembered like I used to like when I when I first started doing stand-up, I when like trying to learn how to write, I would be like, Oh, think of my life as a sitcom and like turn it uh like one of those sitcom episodes into a bit. And like when like a stand-up set would just be like one long episode of your life or whatever, like that. That's how I like I would I I would think about it. That's interesting. I'm gonna think about that again.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Norr McDonald's uh sitcom. That was cool. The Norm McDonald show.
SPEAKER_02There was a lot of comedians.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there was a tons in the 90s. That's when you know that you made it. When you got a sitcom, right? You you banged it out in a couple of couple years in clubs, and then you got a special, or you first you got a the tonight show. Cut tonight show, yeah. Tonight show, and then you had a special, and then you got a sitcom.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. And then you tore, and then you're good for the rest of your life. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02But who had a sitcom?
SPEAKER_05Jamie Fox had a sitcom, Jamie Fox, Jamie Fox show, Roseanne, Roseanne, George Lopez, George Lopez, Larry David. That's right.
SPEAKER_02The guy from Fraser?
SPEAKER_05Frasier? Oh, I forgot. What's his name?
SPEAKER_02But he he was a comedian too, right?
SPEAKER_05I never watched Frasier.
SPEAKER_02That's like the I didn't watch it, but I knew which one it was.
SPEAKER_05Probably. Yeah, that's yeah. Everyone's had a sitcom, at least, I feel like. Or at least.
SPEAKER_02Oh, home improvement, right? Tim Allen?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh, dude, Tim Allen's stand-up.
SPEAKER_05He's still at the laugh factory all the time. His face all the time at the laugh factory.
SPEAKER_00I I have you seen him? I want to go see him.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I'd go see him.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I his the first time I seen his his stand-up on I think it was uh um Ronnie Dangerfield. Oh, Dangerfield's his his show, I I seen it on YouTube. And his whole act was him being like Tim on home improvement. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Like the the voice, the the situations that he did in his stand-up, it was all home improvement.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I mean, yeah, I feel like comics aren't as creative, you know. You got one thing and you're just gonna freaking ride that one thing forever, you know? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It was it was strange to see, and I was like, oh, okay. After I seen that, I was like, okay, uh I'm gonna watch a couple of different sitcoms and see if like see if you see the similarities. That's a similarity.
SPEAKER_02Now there's not that many sitcoms, huh? They're like series, yeah. Or like reality show.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I watched I Love LA. Oh, I watched it too. Dude, yeah, that's like a sitcom. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, she was getting a lot of they were getting hate from that show, right?
SPEAKER_05For sure, yeah. It's cringy. Yeah, yeah. And what is it?
SPEAKER_02They were saying that the It's Rachel Senate.
SPEAKER_05She's like the new Jewish it girl of Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah. She was like an NYU student. She did stand-up. Dude, she was like, she like dated Stavros when he was like 30 and she was like 19 and like went to NYU. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah, she has a she has lore for sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So she's part of the show. Well, she's a main character, right? That's it. Yeah, she's the main character. She's a main character, but she produced the show, I think, too, and has some to do with the writing.
SPEAKER_00What is it called? I Love LA. I love LA. But they're so much about hipsters, yeah, performatives, you know.
SPEAKER_02But what they're saying is that like why would someone that's not even from LA write about I LA feel about LA?
SPEAKER_05It's a it's about LA transplants. Yeah, it's nowhere near there's not a single Mexican character in I Love LA, which is the most fucking vile. Yeah. I know, seriously. The only Korean representation is when like the one chick wore a wee spa shirt in the show for like five seconds. I'm like, all right, okay.
SPEAKER_02And then the girl, the one, the friend, the one that's crazier, yeah with the curly hair. Yeah. Did you hear about the controversy with her?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, she's like Latina fishing or something like that. So they were yeah, they gave her a part.
SPEAKER_02They gave her a part in a movie where she was gonna be the main character and she was gonna play a Latina character, and she's not even Latina.
SPEAKER_05She's like Jewish, she's Jewish too. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So people were like, What the fuck? There's all these Latina actress.
SPEAKER_00I want to see if she looks a little remotely.
SPEAKER_05She's she was in Marty Supreme. She was Rachel in Marty Supreme.
SPEAKER_02Isn't she like a Nepo baby too? She's someone.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, she's a Nepo baby, yeah. Yeah. There's like in high school she dated Jaden Smith. She was like she was like she was like all famous in high school too, because of her she or she had rich parents.
SPEAKER_02This one.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02I watched it.
SPEAKER_05Okay, she looks familiar.
SPEAKER_02Well, this is the girl that they were. Latina fishing.
SPEAKER_05She's for sure Latina fishing with Yeah. Yeah. Fake tan, curly hair.
SPEAKER_02So you see her? The one right here on the left. Oh, you were watching this the other day.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Low key, it's kind of addicting because it's just like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02The episodes are short. They're short. And they're easy to die. Why not easy to digest because the whole time I was like, what the fuck? But you kind of watch it because you hate it so much.
SPEAKER_05Exactly. You see these people on the street all the time. You see these people on your phones all the time. So you're like, okay, this is what they're okay.
SPEAKER_02Definitely.
SPEAKER_00Randy Newman's I Love LA.
SPEAKER_05I know. I mean, that's the theme song. Yeah. Is it really? Yeah, the Dodger song. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Randy Newman is shit, dude. He's actually uh coming back for um uh to do the score for uh Toy Story Five.
SPEAKER_05No way, yeah, that's cool. Man, there's another Toy Story. Yeah, remember did you see those clips of Tarantino saying, like, they should have never made a Toy Story 4? That was the most perfect trilogy of all time. And he's just all complaining how they're making more Toy Stories.
SPEAKER_02Well, now they're making another one.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I guess the the theme behind it, it's not a mystery. They showed it, but it's um the electronics against the actual toys.
SPEAKER_05Ooh, I like that. Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER_02So it's like the iPads?
SPEAKER_00The iPad's gonna come to life.
SPEAKER_02No, it is. The iPad is like the villain in the movie. Oh, yeah, because the kids aren't playing with toys anymore, they're playing with electronics.
SPEAKER_05Run it back. I like that, dude. Let's fuck up the robots. Yeah, chat GBT fucks, dude.
SPEAKER_02So that that's what like what do you call it? Like the synopsis or the theme movement is um electronics versus toys. Okay, that's not bad. I'm behind that. I'll watch that.
SPEAKER_00I'm behind that. The first time I I heard about Randy Newman, I was like, oh yeah, it's gonna be a classic. It's an it's gonna be a classic.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so they're banking like good money on it. That people are gonna dude.
SPEAKER_05Woody and Buzz just get animated into a Roblox video game and they're just fighting people inside Roblox. That's gonna be crazy.
SPEAKER_02I'm excited to see it though. I don't know if it comes out this year or next year, but it's coming out soon. Because I mean they already have trailers for it. Oh wow. Oh wow.
SPEAKER_00All right, I'll watch that trailer.
SPEAKER_02So that that's what that's about.
SPEAKER_00I'm also excited about uh uh scary movie six.
SPEAKER_05I haven't gotten into the scary movies. No, I know, bro. I know. I've never I've I I've probably watched it on cable like halfway through, but I never watched like Scary Movie 3 or anything like that.
SPEAKER_02Were you raised? Like, did your parents monitor what you watched?
SPEAKER_05Not really. We I was a Disney Channel, like Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network. Because that's how I was. I think we were all all were. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02But but my parents didn't let me watch, like I wasn't allowed to ever watch uh Simpsons or like South Park, anything like that.
SPEAKER_05So now my parents kind of were like, Yeah, stay away from me.
SPEAKER_02So now I'm like, he tells me, he's like, you didn't watch this. I'm like, I've never watched it. And he's like, I was watching it when I was like eight.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, no, like those are the kids with the those are the adults with a good sense of humor when they're watching Family Guy at like seven years old eating dinner. That's good, that's good.
SPEAKER_02My cousins are like that. That's that's right here, buddy. He's his face. What what did you tell your mom? That one movie?
SPEAKER_00Huh?
SPEAKER_02Why do you have that face?
SPEAKER_00I was just thinking about it. I was like, oh my god. What raised me? Who raised you? Somebody. Uh well, oh, it was Jane Silent Bob.
SPEAKER_05Oh, fuck yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was like the the first time I I uh I guess I understood what a what a clip horse was.
SPEAKER_05We wee wee.
SPEAKER_00You know the part where he's like, I'm the click commander.
SPEAKER_05No, I don't remember that. I'm the commander of the clip. I'm the commander of the clip.
SPEAKER_00I knew that whole scene, like from beginning to end, and I was like repeating it in front of my mother, uh-huh. And she she didn't know, like, she was like, What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah. And and in the movie, he's like telling the other guy to say it with him. Yeah, yeah. So me, I'm like not like nine, ten, eleven.
SPEAKER_05No way, giant Jay and Silent Bob when you're nine, dude.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I was telling my mom, I was I was telling my mom, I was like, Oh, you know, say it with me.
SPEAKER_04It's me, mom. We're commanders of the clip.
SPEAKER_00And then my aunt, dude, yeah, then my aunt, well, because I don't even think I don't, I don't know. My mom was saying it with me, and then my aunt was right there. She was like, Lorraine, what are you, what are you saying? And then and she was like, uh, I don't know, he's telling me to say it. Yeah, yeah. And my aunt goes, she's she's just like, Yeah, you know what a clit is, and she was like, Yeah, it's part of the women's vagina.
SPEAKER_05Your mom knew too?
SPEAKER_00No, oh no, your aunt had to tell me. No, my aunt had to tell my mom, and I got in super in trouble. She was like, You're not gonna watch that movie. But dude, I I grew up on that movie, I grew up on on uh The Latin Kings of Comedy, bro.
SPEAKER_05Dude, hell yeah. Respect.
SPEAKER_00I just I just got it the other day, and I totally forgot we didn't have a DVD player.
SPEAKER_05Oh sh you don't have an old PS4 or anything?
SPEAKER_00No, I gave it away.
SPEAKER_05Who is it? George Lopez, Paul Rodriguez, uh Alex Raymundo, uh Cheech Marine.
SPEAKER_00He's uh he's hosting it. Cheech Marine is hosting it, and then Joey Medina.
SPEAKER_05Dude, you know Cheech Marine's daughter is married to Danny McBride. Really? Dude, isn't that weird? Isn't that crazy? Wait, I gotta see this. Isn't that crazy? Danny McBride met like yeah, it's Cheech Marine, Cheech's daughter. That's awesome. Yeah, isn't that crazy? Yeah, that is weird. Little half Mexican hick kids. I love Danny McBride, dude. I love those are the sitcoms, those are actually good sitcoms nowadays. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just watched um all of his stuff, like vice principals and like um Righteous Gemstones. Like that, he's funny, bro.
SPEAKER_00I have to get into uh, you know what? I I just got a book on um fuck. What's his name? God damn it, it's gonna come to me. He he he uh directed uh 40 year old virgin, help me out here.
SPEAKER_05Oh, oh, oh, oh. Judd Apatel? Yes.
SPEAKER_00I I just got like a book on his interviews? I I got that one.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sick in the head.
SPEAKER_00I have the I have that one, but I also have I haven't finished it yet. I have that one, and then also I got the his like picture book of like he has like photos and like collections.
SPEAKER_05He was a little nerd, dude. Like at 16 years old, he was like just like yeah.
SPEAKER_00The reason why is because he wrote a letter. I uh so Steve Martin has a book, uh Born Standing. Yeah, I love that book. He talks about Judd uh writing him like when he was like 12 years old. Oh wow Judd Apatel wrote Steve Martin.
SPEAKER_05I gotta go back and read that part. That's really cool. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And he he again, Judd talks about him writing Steve Martin in his book.
SPEAKER_05That's cool. But that's the only book I cried at at the end, Steve Martin's book. He's like when he like impresses his dad.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, oh, he did it, he did it. What do you what does your family think of you doing stand-up?
SPEAKER_05Dude, my dad was at the cop party uh on Saturday. That was like the first time I saw him do stand-up in like three years. I was like so I got home from San Diego at like 4 a.m. and like literally woke up the next day and had to go to the dude, like this broad daylight cop party in a f some fool's backyard, had to bring my own PA system and stuff like that. It was not good set for me. I mean, it was alright, decent, but you know, you want your parents to come out to like bree improv or like the store or stuff, you know, keep the facade alive if you're you know doing good. But no, they they they they're very supportive. They're they're cool about it. Yeah, yeah, they're cool about it. That's good, dude. Yeah, my mom's the best. Yeah, my dad, he's chill about it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's cool. I think that's the best, right? When your parents are just happy for you and Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05But then it's also like, it's also like, oh, they're happy for you, so they're like, oh, we got you have your approval, so you you you have nothing, you know, holding you back. So like why aren't you successful yet? I kind of get that vibe, you know. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Sometimes you get that vibe, or you think they give off that vibe?
SPEAKER_05Um you know, they're pretty good about it, but I do hear my jabs are my dad's like, oh, you're going to freaking you're going to Carlsbad? How much you making? I don't know, dude. I'm just freaking like doing the playground show, you know? Like, yeah. Playground SD. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I don't know, 20 bucks. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Um gas, uh, travel, uh, yeah, literally.
SPEAKER_05Dude, this weekend was the most I ever made in comedy. Oh, really? That was like 300 bucks for the private party show and just like a hundred bucks from like hosting at American Comedy Counts. Yeah. Nice. And it's like 400 bucks.
SPEAKER_04I'm like, I fucking made it.
SPEAKER_05I'm getting a fucking jacuzzi right now.
SPEAKER_02You're all looking at everything you can. I know, right?
SPEAKER_05I'm on Deepop buying jorts.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, it's just some shorts. You know. You're upgrading your underwear drawers.
SPEAKER_04I don't need these socks anymore.
SPEAKER_02You're like, fuck that. That's funny. Yeah. I I guess I never I don't know. I I have this like perception of like I know how much sometimes comedians get paid, but then I also I'm like, oh no, like, like, yeah, they're getting paid. Like, who cares if it's fucking 20 bucks? Like, I don't know. I guess I see it. I see how much joy it brings him. That to me it doesn't like if he gets paid, amazing. And if he doesn't, then I'm just like, uh, who cares?
SPEAKER_05It's like it's yeah, you yeah, it's like um you'll get paid later on, you know? Get paid hundreds and thousands of millions of dollars for all the m all the stuff that we didn't get paid for.
SPEAKER_00It's like the w what we were talking about earlier about like grinding and and taking the hits now, so that way in the future you can actually the lottery, dude.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still banking on that, you know, hopefully, you know, down the line.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna ask you that. So is that like your what what's like the best case scenario for you that you want to happen or that will happen, right? We should say will.
SPEAKER_05I'm I'm content on just touring. If I can tour just like comedy clubs like freaking the funny bone in Utah and you know, Baltimore, whatever, you know, that's perfect. But you know, would love to be really successful at stand-up, get bored of it, and just like start like writing movies or something like that. That'll be fun too. Yeah. As long as I'm doing it with my friends, as long as you can just kick it with friends and you know, go up with friends, and then I feel like that's that's the dream. That's the dream. Because it's lonely, you know. I was like away from Mario and Via for like four days, and I'm like, oh man, I missed my bodies all the time.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02But it is it do you find it that it's easier that your friends are doing like the same thing that you are?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Cause you can talk about like life stuff, you know, like family stuff, relationship stuff, and you know, juggling all those things while you're trying to, you know, get the stand-up shit going. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot easier. I always say like my first three, four years of comedy was just such a waste of time because I was just like drinking, like treating it like a party, just like a big fat hang. But also, I was like, one of the first things I wanted to do when getting into comedy was like find a crew, find a family, and those three, four years definitely helped me find like a family, you know.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. That makes sense.
SPEAKER_05So I'm like definitely like I have a good life, you know. I'll like go surf with Ken on and Mario and V in the morning and then go to work and hate myself for five hours, and then you know, go go out at night and go see Mike's and go see go to Mike's and see a bunch of friends, you know. So like, yeah, stand-up could be so lonely. That's why I feel bad for sometimes for like those wifles from like Ohio, and like they have like no crew or anything like that, you know.
SPEAKER_02The wife's from Ohio.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they just come here, they're all sad and lonely and shit like that. Like, I hate LA.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's why that's why people hate, like, when they're like, Oh, LA is such a you know dark place. LA is this, and it's like, no, it's because you don't have community and you come out here, and I get it, like I I guess kind of appreciate I don't know if that's the word, but I guess I can see that they come out here with you know, like a goal and they grind and they do that, and maybe yeah, there isn't time to make friends or whatever it is, but that's the lonely part is that you don't have community, you're not you know, doing anything other than what you set your mind to do, but sometimes it's like it's nice to talk to other people that you know maybe aren't doing exactly what you're doing, getting other perspectives, other things like that. But that's what I always think when people are like, I hate LA, LA is so dark. I'm like, No, it's not.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, when they meet people, they're like not really trying to make friends, they're just trying to see what they can get out of that. Right. Yeah, that's those those are the lonely fools. Definitely, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I agree. But I feel like you always do need you need some kind of support at some point.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, dude. Yeah, even if they're not like other comics, like I have I I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, Amber, I I like to think that I have more musician friends than I do stand-up friends. Like the uh don't get me wrong, there's acquaintances. Like I I I I know people within the community, um, but I guess I I know more musicians than comics, I guess.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I feel that.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Just thinking about that right now.
SPEAKER_05He's still talking to all my high school college friends and stuff all the time too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm I'm his uh comedy friend that doesn't that doesn't do comedy.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, duo.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, my my friend that's a youth pastor.
SPEAKER_05Oh shit, really?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I have some friends that are just do like the wackiest things.
SPEAKER_05Really?
SPEAKER_00Not that being a pastor is wacky, right?
SPEAKER_03It is a little wacky, it's pretty wacky. Is it really?
SPEAKER_05Do you want to hang out with fucking 13-year-olds all day about Bible shit? Like, that's crazy, dude. That's crazy. Dude, one time, uh, this really funny comic named uh Daniel Lee. Um I saw him at an open mic, and he'll he went up to me. He's like, Oh, do you know Robin Chong? I don't know why I said my cousins last day, but like sorry, Robin. Um, but I was like, Yeah, he's like, Yeah, I was our youth pastor. And then literally I went up and just started riffing about you better have not started with my cousin.
SPEAKER_04I was just talking shit to him. He's like, You creep, youth pastors are all creeps.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that was fun though. He likes me. It was fun.
SPEAKER_00That could have been me, man. That could have been me. Yeah, you could have been a creep, no, not a creep. I could have been a pastor. I think that's why I love stand-up so much.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I grew up in mega church too vibes, like Korean mega church. Yeah, I get the sexy guy with the acoustic guitar. Really? Yeah, passage after. Yeah, yeah. I grew up in all that shit.
SPEAKER_00Did you do any uh any like performance stuff like for the church?
SPEAKER_05No, no, because I was coming from Placentia and they're like, Oh, he's Mexican. Really? Like, he's not from Irvine, he's Mexican, like like they hated me, you know. So I was just like, oh fuck Koreans, dude.
SPEAKER_03So you weren't like Korean enough?
SPEAKER_05No, I wasn't like Korean enough. I didn't I don't speak Korean or anything like that, but all those Irvine Koreans, you know, they all fucking just rave and just do Molly and just are super Asian, play League of Legends, and you know, just do performative Asian shit. And I've been performative Asian shit. I was never into that vibe. Yeah, really? Just skating and yeah, now I surf.
SPEAKER_02So you were you were more Mexican?
SPEAKER_05I guess. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I definitely kicked it up more with Mexicans in high school. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah. My first Korean friend that I made that I wasn't forced to, you know, because all my Korean friends are moms were best friends. Like my boy Wesley, he's like in the army in North Carolina, my boy Andrew, he's like a lawyer in Berkeley. Like those guys are my only Korean friends. But now I met this full Andre from New York, and I'm like, oh, cool. It's kind of nice meeting a Korean that, you know. Yeah, it's kind of nice. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's cool.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. The only other Asian in my life is Viet. He's Asian Asian. Yeah, he's a straight out of Vietnam, dude.
SPEAKER_02Straight out of Vietnam. I love when I see his stories and he posts his parents and they're hugging the little Yeah, the little dog, and he's all freaking pissed because we got replaced, dude. That's what he told us, remember? He was told us. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05That dog lives a better life than he did when he was in Vietnam, dude. It's so hilarious.
SPEAKER_02Your dog's living better. Your dog's living better. That's so funny. That's funny. But uh, one question, because you you I wanted to go back. So you were talking about Korean the mega church, right? I I didn't grow up in a religion. I didn't grow up going to church. I don't I don't know anything. What did I tell you yesterday? I was like, I don't even know how to pray. But is there like a big difference between like regular you were Christian? Are they Christian? Christian, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05It was like a Baptist Korean church. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So are they very different from like like white Christian type of honestly, it they kind of took the white um like example and turned it just Korean.
SPEAKER_05Because you know, like how Christianity got to Korea was like the US, you know, just had put a bunch of missionaries over there, and now half the country's like Christian, and like all the Korean Americans are pretty much Christian because they're American, you know. And I just think a lot of Christians are religious because they're or a lot of Koreans are religious because it's like a place of community. You know, that's like the only place where you can like kick it with other Koreans, you know, it's just at church, as a Korean church. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That makes sense.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Alright, that was it.
SPEAKER_05But yeah, it was it was it was pretty still stu super wise, like, my God is an ass and it was like all that bullshit, you know? You know, did they have like dance teams and choir and did they have like a lot of programs like that for um they had Korean school and I quit Korean school because the ladies would just like pull my ear and I hated it. Oh my god. I would just fuck around at first grade. That's why I don't learn Korean because of that freaking teacher, dude. She's abusive, dude. I want to go home and skate with Ricky and Jason. Like, I'm gonna fucking get on, I don't get out of freaking herb eye.
SPEAKER_02That is funny. I know.
SPEAKER_00How often did you go to church?
SPEAKER_05Uh every Sunday.
SPEAKER_00Every Sunday.
SPEAKER_05My parents still are in church. Oh, yeah. Yeah, my dad's like an elder now. He got he like runs the church with like a bunch of other old creatures. Whoa, okay. Yeah, well, it's because he's retired and needs something to do. Yeah, yeah, he needs something, which is good. He's helping the old people. Yeah, that's good. You know, that's I'm I'm happy for him. He's like helping other people. Yeah, when you help other people, you your life feels more fulfilled and stuff, which is you know, that's true. You know, yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think I think there's people that need to continue to help their community and be, you know, feel like they're contributing to something. So I I think it's that's why I don't like I again, I'm not religious and I'm I don't care to be religious, but I think that sometimes I see people that are and I think like, oh that's nice. Like they have community, they have people that they see every week that they strive to do something for.
SPEAKER_05Like I think in that aspect uh aspect of like religion, I think it's nice, but everything else that comes it makes them I feel like it makes them complacent though, like you know, like like just that mindset of like oh God's got me, or I'm gonna drill I'm gonna I'm gonna drive home drunk right now, God's got me. I'm chilling, you know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yes, and you don't give yourself as much credit as you can.
SPEAKER_05I think that that's my God led me here.
SPEAKER_00Right. It's like have some, you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, like you had a vision, you you did sold it through, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think it it's it's like that with a lot of things that happens that you you're giving you're giving credit to something else. To something else, and you're not giving yourself the Yeah, everything is God.
SPEAKER_02God made this happen. Yeah, my luck is it's not luck, it's God, it's this, it's that, yeah.
SPEAKER_00But when something bad happens, who is it?
SPEAKER_02It's the devil.
SPEAKER_05I know, right.
unknownThe devil.
SPEAKER_02But it's never it's never them. That's true.
SPEAKER_05It just made me feel real guilty about everything. Like I'm still getting over that, you know? Like guilty about like just you know, like having a drink, or you know, like I don't know. Even like when I was a kid, like cussing and stuff like that. That's why like when I went to college, I was like, I'm gonna do everything that the devil loves or whatever, you know. I just like got all that pent up like good boy energy out.
SPEAKER_02You're like, so I'm really not gonna get striked.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02I I this this is my hot take, and it's probably gonna ruffle some feathers, but I feel like religion sometimes exists for people that need um need guidelines and guidance on how to be a good person or how to live some lives.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because I feel like that's that's what religion. I mean, you go, you go on Sundays, they talk to you, they tell you how to be a good neighbor, a good this, a good that. Yeah. And it's like, why do you need someone to tell you? Yeah, isn't that common sense? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05But I don't know. But I Some people it's not, unfortunately, which is kind of sad.
SPEAKER_02And I think that's why, like, from like Catholicism, because like me being Mexican, they're they're more Catholic than they are Christian. Yeah, but again, from what the only thing that I know is like maybe like a few family members that went, and to me, I was just like, You're doing coke on Saturday, I know getting fucked up, and then on Sunday you're just like, Oh, how many Hail Marys to fucking forget that yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, you'd see like the dude that's doing the acoustic guitar at church, and then like the night before he's just doing fucking a bunch of things.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he has a fucking coke nail from his guitar. So to me, I was just like, Oh. Yeah. But I but again, I never it wasn't something that was part of my family, so but I still have this like kind of guilt what you talk about. Like not guilt, but this like, uh I'm supposed to be a good boy. Is somebody out there? Is something out there?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, karma. Yeah, but I don't know. Did you grow up religious?
SPEAKER_00I did, yeah, yeah. Um my no Christian. Uh I think it was like fundamental Christian, maybe. Uh some sort of denomination.
SPEAKER_05Was it in Whittier, your church?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Uh there was a there was a couple. My my grandpa, he had uh a Victory Outreach. Oh, okay. Uh so my gr my grandpa was a was a pastor. Victory Outreach is a is a like a it's a church, it's a branded oh okay.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, like an east side church or something like that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. My grandpa and uh my grandpa and grandma were were pastors for a lot of years.
SPEAKER_05Damn.
SPEAKER_00My my uncle, my my only uncle, he he's he's still a pastor. Wow. One of my aunts is still very involved in the church and her kids are you pretty religious still? Me, no.
SPEAKER_05Do you still pray though?
SPEAKER_00No. No, you don't pray anymore.
SPEAKER_05No, I I I know when I when shit when shit hits the fan, dude. I'll s I'll s I'll send it to you.
SPEAKER_00You know what you know what sometimes I do too. I'm like, God.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, because that was the only coping mechanism I learned as a child, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think from that point, if anything, like I start freaking out and I start doing that, I'm just like, you're a punk. Like you like, I feel some su some kind of weird like uh guilt in in that point because I it's not like I go against religion. It's just like I I know two different sides of it. Like growing up in a church and knowing how um just knowing the ins and outs of of religion, how it it changes like a uh like a person's psyche once they're they're in it for a very, very long time. Yeah. Being you know, growing up in it, and then also to uh just learning the different like arguments against it, because the only time you really you don't really learn any arguments against religion uh when you're like yeah at church.
SPEAKER_05You don't they're never gonna talk about that, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right. Yeah, but once I started listening to uh to this podcast, uh it's called uh Atheist uh Atheist Experience. Oh, okay. And I started listening to like arguments against it, and I was like, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05That makes a lot more sense.
SPEAKER_00At first, at first it was just like ah, you know what, uh it's not really my thing anymore. Right. But when I started listening to the the arguments and just the I guess the the thought on theology, it it it made a lot of sense. It made a uh a lot of sense. I mean it's uh I I'm not too involved in it, but yeah, you know, it's still everyone's got a point.
SPEAKER_05Everyone's got a point, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right. But my point was uh I had some pretty gnarly stuff happen being very young, and I'm just like there can't be any god.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. There yeah, I am thinking about something too that would happen to like not even my family, but like a friend's family. I'm just like that happened, and you go to church all the time, like this.
SPEAKER_00Right, just like in in just in general, yeah, right, just in general, if if there's this all-knowing person that that has the choice to to make peace and to to fill everybody with love, and that's not the case, yeah, like why why not?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, why not? Yeah, yeah. Why make us suffer so much, dude?
SPEAKER_00And I found that out so very young. Oh very young, and for a lot of years I was confused. Oh, because your family is so growing up in that type of environment and then having that realization so early, and then for a very long time, I I was very confused about uh just religion in general. And then plus too, it's like all my family are pretty religious. Uh we never really talked about it that that much. I mean, me and my cousins will we'll we won't debate, but we'll have like a conversation. We'll have grown up like just recently, like a few years ago, we went camping at uh uh my cousin, he's like at least what, like eight, ten years old. He's like ten years older than I am. And we start talking about um what do we start talking about? We started talking about um just like evolution. But I don't know for some reason we're we're we were we were talking about evolution, yeah, exactly. Because we're camping and we're just talking, and I think it was like about the time uh that uh what what's that podcaster that I guess he his wife is uh like a porn star and he makes his wife like uh do like a porn with some guy.
SPEAKER_05Oh, oh, oh, the bald guy, Adam 22? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so it was around that time and we were talking about it. He was like, I he was like, I don't get this why why why a man would do this, right? Yeah, and we were having this conversation. I told him I was like, I was like that, and then also too, like in I I wasn't apologizing for for him, but I was saying I was like, you know, it it's in a man's I I was going deep, dude. I was telling him that you know Gil next to the cat bar. No, I was telling him, I was like, dude, uh, so you in when we were a tribe, like a millennia ago, when humans were tribes, we used to take care of like each other, each other, and uh nobody was like wifed up, uh everybody all had sex with each other. We so it's like it's built it. There's this like weird strand. I know origins are just like a poly sex cult, dude.
SPEAKER_04Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's how it was. No, I'm not saying what what what what book? What would it be sapiens? There we go. Oh really?
SPEAKER_05I was just reading Sapiens was really they said that? I was there was no marriage?
SPEAKER_02No, it we we were uh what is it we're just poly as fuck? We're it was a poly and now and then we turned into a monogamous culture monogamy.
SPEAKER_05Is that because of capitalism? Why would happen?
SPEAKER_02I wanted to like later on.
SPEAKER_00Because the religious shit happened, yeah. Exactly. So I had just been fresh reading sapiens, and I was you know going through all that with them, and he was just like, he was like, Yeah, but you know, uh Genesis, and like we're going through like the Bible and stuff, and I was going through my argument of it, and I was just like super religious, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we we were just having that conversation. So a lot of stuff like that comes up, like in and I it's fine for me. I like having those conversations, especially with somebody that's you know very close to me, my cousin. Uh and it it was honestly it was like a really good conversation to have. Yeah, and plus I I like doing you know stuff like this and going that deep.
SPEAKER_05Going that deep, yeah. Especially with someone you love, you know, and for you. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and cousin. Right. And it was overall, it was it was pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02I can't because I want to fight. No, I just I hate fighting. I'm such a people pleader.
SPEAKER_05I am I hate confrontation.
SPEAKER_00But it's it's just not you you're I know he's never gonna change his mind. I think that's what it is. I think I I I know that there's no winning. Yeah, there's no losing, it's just I'm sharing some information that I've learned along the way, living my life, and he's reciprocating back with the same exact with the same thing.
SPEAKER_02So but see, but that's fine. That's where it's it's nice, right? Where you can, I guess, agree to disagree or whatever you want to call it. But I feel like and this is just coming from my experience of of not being religious and also being around a lot of Latinos that were like I've said it here on the podcast like multiple times. I used to lie about like first communions and all that shit because my friends were doing it, and then they'd be like, Oh, when's your first communion? And I'd be like, Oh, in um in two months, but it's gonna be in Mexico. Yeah, and it will it was like I didn't even know, like, you know, I didn't know how to do any of that. But a lot of times I would get like by my friends' moms, or you know, we'd go to party and they'd be like, Oh, do you go to church? And I was like, Fuck.
SPEAKER_05The church used to be so big, yeah. Yeah, and it was one of those questions with the popular girls.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was one of those questions that I hated like asking, like, oh, where does your family go to church? Oh, where do you and I'd uh be like, and then after a while, I was like, I'm not gonna lie, like this is who I am, and if I didn't grow up then in religion, it's not. But then it would be like, Oh, well, do you know that you know you can go to hell? And do you know? And I'd be like, fuck you. Where the other kids used to tell you that no, like the people or like people in our family. Like when I had my quinceera and we didn't do a church, some of like my distant relatives that were they were like, How, how, like, she's not gonna, you know, be blessed by and we're like, what the fuck? Like, we've never been religious. What are you talking about? Like, so to me, that's the part that bothers me is that I can me as a person, like if you tell me you're religious, I'm just gonna be like, Okay, cool. Yeah, I'm not gonna fight you on it or make you feel bad for it. And I always got the other way where it was like it w it was so horrible that I wasn't religious, yeah. And I was like, Oh, that's not fair. So I guess something like that is nice if you can agree to disagree, but I can't. I'm just like angry about it. Yeah, fuck you.
SPEAKER_05I'd love to have a conversation because my cousins are super religious too. Yeah, and I'd love to have a conversation about all that stuff.
SPEAKER_00And then it went really crazy when I started talking about mushroom and the sacred mushroom and the cross.
SPEAKER_05Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00It went super.
SPEAKER_05Well, like when like um on that one fool like Moses like saw like the bush go on fire and acacia bush. Like on mushrooms or something.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, because uh the traditionally the acacia tree is is has uh dimethylotreptamine in it, which is DMT. No when when it was burning, uh DMT, he smoked it, inhaled it, and that's where the psychedelics has been in our history forever, do you for sure 100%. Yeah. Oh shoot, we gotta go.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh nice, bro. Hell yeah. Love your feeling. Yeah, we gotta we gotta talk about that on the next one. John John, The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross. Let's do it. Part two. It's a it's a it's a book on how uh the Bible could and may have been misinterpreted. It's like a big acid trip or something. Yeah, okay. Trip journal.
SPEAKER_05Trip journal. Whoa, crazy. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I I believe it, dude.
SPEAKER_00I believe it. Yeah. Adam, thanks for coming out and doing the pod, dude. My guy. Appreciate it, dude. Uh, tell us where we can find you and what you got coming up, brother.
SPEAKER_05Um, just uh Adam T Chong, the Instagram, yeah. Just keep posting over there, keep doing stuff. And um, I don't know, my next show. Papoosas and Punchlines. Oh, okay. That'll be fun. Yeah, 6 30, 9 45 show. Great Latino crowd, dude. Yeah, can't wait for that show.
SPEAKER_00Love the papusas and postcards. Oh yeah, dude. Um are you still like posting daily?
SPEAKER_05No no, it's been two weeks, so I posted every day February. And um, I only posted like twice last week, and like I'm gonna bring it back up. I'm I'm thinking how I want to do it, you know? Yeah, because these posts are still like getting love right now. Oh, that's good. Yeah, it's crazy, bro. It's freaking crazy. But um, you know, I just gotta stop, you know, not be scared and just press sketch, press post. Sometimes that's all you need to do, dude. That's literally all yeah, that's literally it. Yeah, look what you made just by fucking posting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and that was how many were you doing a day? Were you doing like one a day? One a day for a month. 28 days, the shortest month of the year. First, I was doing one, I was like, okay, alright, that's cool. But at that time we weren't doing the podcast, we weren't producing anything, so it was just clipping old shows, like and we did that for a year. Nice, and we went from one clip to like I think max. I started doing like six clips a day. What on for how long? On three different uh platforms, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. For for for a while.
SPEAKER_05That's a full-time job, dude.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, yeah, I wasn't I wasn't working, I was just doing stand-up. Um we I did some like social media work for restaurants and stuff, but other than that, it was just it was just like duh like juggling the day job and just your health and then also stand-up and posting.
SPEAKER_05That's a lot, dude.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's a lot. Which even but all your stuff you you do alone, right? You do it alone, and it's all your original content, too. So it even in that it it's it's tough to do, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05But I feel like what they like more. So they just like rant in the car for 20 seconds, post it, you know. And then that's it. You know, that's it.
SPEAKER_00That's what it is, dude. Go check 'em out. Adam Chong. Thank you, Gil. Thank you, Amber.
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