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MB:286 with Tek Ho

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Tek Ho is a standup comedian. Check out his stuff here https://www.instagram.com/its.tek/?hl=en

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SPEAKER_04

Let's go. What is up, Mind Buzz Universe? Welcome back to another podcast episode of The Mind Buzz. I'm your host, Gil, and working the board tonight, today, this afternoon, whenever you're listening to this podcast, is the lovely Amber. What is up?

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What is up?

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How are you?

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Sorry, I don't know why I made mimicked you.

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You're mocking me.

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I'm mocking you.

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What's up?

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Uh, nothing much.

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How's it going?

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I'm good. That's always uh I feel like like pretty caffeinated today for some reason.

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Why?

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I don't know.

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Oh, you know what? What? Tell me all about it.

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I took the vitamin C.

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Uh to clown of me taking my vitamin.

SPEAKER_04

Now we got some episodic material to go over. Last week we talked about Amber's uh lab results from the doctor, and she was just lacking in vitamin D. We gave her vitamin D. She got vitamin D uh capsules. Yeah. And um she's taking them. And how do you feel? Do you feel anything different?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I had espresso today and the like I washed it down. I washed the vitamin down with espresso, and I don't know now.

SPEAKER_04

Took a shot.

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It was a little too much, I think.

SPEAKER_04

The vitamin D?

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Yeah, because I think it gives you some kind of energy too.

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Yeah, it does. Oh, I forgot my uh my worm gummies. Dang.

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Your vitamin gummies.

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Yeah, my happy gummies.

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We're old now, we're just like talking about our vitamins. I forgot to take my vitamins.

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I forgot. God damn it.

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My fibromyalgia. And non. That's all it got, is my vitamins.

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But see, look at it. If I'm gonna take vitamins, ladies and gentlemen, it's gonna be in gummies.

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Yeah, he doesn't take pill form. He looks for every vitamin in gummy forms. He takes like 10 different like gummy vitamins. I'm not even kidding.

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He doesn't even care what vitamins it is.

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No, he just wants to.

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The flintstones. I never took those as a kid. I think you know what? That's my trauma. Uh, I never got the flintstones, and I wanted them, and my dad was like, No, we're not gonna do them. Finally, that's good for you.

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You're not gonna have that.

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You don't need that.

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I'm just gonna pack you with raviolis and hot pockets.

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Raviolis, hot pockets, and cigarettes. And cigarettes, yeah.

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I'm just kidding.

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I remember the day when when my dad found out I was stealing cigarettes from him.

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How old are you?

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I was 12.

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Oh my god.

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And what do you do?

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It's so I was like, what did he do? Yeah. So I was I was taking like one, I took like one at a time. I was like, okay, he didn't notice. Take two at a time. Okay, he didn't notice. And then like one day I took like five. Six, maybe. And then he was like, what the he seen him, and then uh he like walked back and then came back. I think like he was watching me. Like he was he knew that there was like stuff being, you know, yeah, going missing, and then he caught onto it and he caught me. He's like, What are you doing? I'm like, pump smoking, dude.

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I used to do that too, but I used to take quarters. Uh quarter stash. This is the same, right? I was living the wild life, stealing some quarters from Let me guess.

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What did you buy? Guess.

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You already know what I bought.

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Chips?

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Yeah. My mom didn't let me eat chips. Who did I tell yesterday? I was like, my mom was a crunchy mom.

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Well, that's what they call him. You guys never heard that? Well, let's get into it and then I'll tell you what a crunchy mom is.

SPEAKER_04

Uh, today's guest. I am super excited about today's guest. Uh he's a stand-up comic, uh, all around great gentleman. Please give it up for Tech Ho, ladies and gentlemen. Tech Ho. Hi, how's it going?

SPEAKER_05

What's up, dude? Hi, Gil. How are you doing?

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What's going on, man?

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Hi.

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Hi.

SPEAKER_04

What's up, friend?

SPEAKER_00

Not much, no. We have another guest in the house.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, we have a special guest in the So special. This is the most specialist guest of my life. Yeah. It's my girlfriend Juni. She's here, she's not on the mic, but she is giving me all the emotional support I'll ever need for now. And the rest of my life, too. Oh, that was sweet. I couldn't have done this without her. Honestly, uh, if she didn't come, I'd be like, oh, I got uh something to do. I think it's an open mic, I can't make it, you know. But um, she's here, I feel more comfortable. That's good, dude. Nice. It's good. So what's up, man? Oh, you know, the same old gamut trying to write jokes that are funny. Yeah?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Hitting mic when I can. Trying I'm trying to film too. So you're you're doing what now? I'm filming like shows. So like I'm trying to record and edit on like Da Vinci and stuff. So do clips and stuff like that. Do clips for our people, like trying to build a portfolio in that way. Oh, so you're filming other people. Yeah, I filmed the whole nobles like anniversary show.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, did you really?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Oh, that's cool. I was thinking about like maybe just like sending like one or two like edited clips to like the comics and like, hey, if you like it, you know, I can do more for you.

SPEAKER_04

Honestly, dude, we need more, we need more people in that space.

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And those editing computer owners.

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Yeah.

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Asians, really. Yeah, we need more Asians.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, when you have like so many like uh comics, uh like people do what we do, but you know, not enough like creative people on like the digital space of that. Like it's it's I don't know.

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I mean own a camera.

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Own a camera. Start there, yeah. That's a camera.

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But but I think yes, owning a camera. What what were we talking about the other day? Oh, last night we were talking about something and oh no, we're talking about social media. Oh, we're talking about social media in general, and I think like, yes, people can own a camera, but it doesn't mean that because you own a camera, you're you will have that eye. Like you still have to know what you're doing and also like that like look at what you want it to be. So you do need to be creative in some sense, exactly.

SPEAKER_05

And you as a comic too, like you kind of know what you uh other comics content that you like, you know. Yeah, what what's and you see what's like kind of like the common thread between all that. But honestly, owning a camera doesn't mean shit. Like it's like you can own paint, you're not fucking Picasso, you know. Exactly.

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That's true. Yeah.

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But a camera is expensive, so it's like you it's cheaper than it means more than paint. So you can if you're getting it, you better be fucking serious.$1,200 paint right there, brother. Paint something good, you know?

SPEAKER_04

That's true. How long have you been doing this for?

SPEAKER_05

Well, I've been taking photos of it. I bought it to shoot for like videos. It's mainly made made for videos, but I've been only shooting photos for like two years, and I just started recording like film like actual videos, like maybe a couple months.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05

I I did it the very first thing I shot with it was a video for Mikey Brahas at the purple velvet, and I'm like, oh, it looks pretty good.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05

And then for two years I did nothing with it. No, I just took photos and made it look like film. The ones that I posted on Instagram with the skyride shot you're talking about. Yeah, shot it with that camera. Oh, okay. But this is the very first time I want to be like actually editing and subtitles for like a stand-up clips on that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, if you're into all that stuff, dude, it it it gets pretty fun. It's fun, but it takes up a lot of time. Yeah. So much time. Yep, you gotta have that dedication.

SPEAKER_05

Dedication, and you're just re-watching the same clip like without I can only hear this guy say the word cunt like 40 times more, and I'm I'm I give up. I'm giving up. Yeah.

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Gil started had to start wearing headphones inside the house when he edited things because I was I was getting tired of hearing the same thing, the same thing.

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I was like, Do you have to though? You have to just keep releasing to make sure you get it right.

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Yeah. Yeah. And especially you have to know what like you have to sacrifice it's it's a it's a sacrifice with time.

SPEAKER_05

Time for sure. Because like like I have a lot of comics already asked me like a film their sh their shows, but like I'm not gonna get any stage time out of it, so that's really a just a day I can't do comedy. So like you do enough of those days, you know you're gonna do comedy.

SPEAKER_04

Dude, that that's still pretty slow. That's yeah, that's another um that's another you know, avenue to think about, right? Yes, of course. Is like you you're putting out your time away from what away from your craft to go out and shoot some, and it's not even that, right? It's not even the main thing, yeah. It's like the 30 minutes to an hour getting prepping, yeah, driving to the place, shooting it, not getting time, and then editing it packing up, and then going and editing, and then people get lose their minds when they say, Oh, this is what I charge.

SPEAKER_05

I'm doing it for free, too. Well, I should have I shouldn't say that online. Don't I'm actually not doing this for free.

SPEAKER_02

Don't sell yourself from this point on, you're not. Yeah. Look, we no Gil, between Gil and I, we we know how to do certain like things, right? There's certain things that we both know how to do creatively and everything. And for a long time we were doing it just for the sake of us really liking like we love to do it and we find joy in it. And um we've been working with like a we we have a partner and he you know he's older and you know, just he knows more about business, yeah. He and he is our mentor, and we see him every Saturday, we talk to him at least for like an hour, hour and a half, and he could not believe that we weren't charging anything, and I was like, Oh, but but it's just I'm I'm having a good time, and he's like, And like, and then I and then he's like, How much would you charge? And I was like, Oh, I don't know. Like, I like lowballed myself, and he's like, Is that what you want to make? He's like, Is that sustainable?

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Too cheap, yeah.

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And then he was like, Is that sustainable? Are you gonna be able to live the rest of your life, you know, doing this? And I'm like, Well, no, and he's like, Okay, he's like, There's people out there that value your time, value what you do, and are willing to pay what your price is, and we're like, Oh shoot, like it took that much, and for him to constantly tell us and telling us to kind of like you know, put that into apply it, and even then we're still kind of like uh Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But as friends sometimes it's like it's hard to charge friends, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But look, I feel that and when it becomes comfortable and when it com becomes available when you're able to have that conversation between like friends, uh there's this threshold, I believe that is there, right? There's a threshold where uh once you start asking for for something like that, say okay, um 25 bucks, whatever, right? 25 bucks is is my going rate to make a video to do a role, whatever. That's not a real number, I'm just throwing it out there. And now they have to f come up with an extra money to to pay that, right? So where is that gonna come out if they can say, hey, I'm not gonna do this gig unless I get paid twenty-five dollars or thirty to thirty-five dollars that'll pay me to get out there, pay my gas, whatever, and it'll pay my you know, my guy to come out and and do my thing. So I feel that once you start you start that and then you start building that like for other people. And you're just move honestly, you're just moving around 25 bucks, right? Like you're just moving that around. But at least it holds seriously, it's a it's a very but at least you're putting value to your work, and it's not only that, you're having the other person build value towards uh what they what they get and what they expect.

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And what they're providing you to build, yeah. Yeah. That's why I think I treated like this two-year anniversary show of nobles, like kind of like it's like a trial run. Oh, yeah. See it for free. It's Mario. I love Mario too. And I want to see, I mean, just get some practice on Da Vinci. But after doing it, like the whole gig setting up took so long. Closing, record making sure I I can't go out and smoke a cigarette and make sure the audio and the video is on all the time. I was like, this is real work. Yeah. So I'm like, well, yeah, eventually you're gonna have to charge for it. But but I told comics on like when I DM'd them. It was just like, hey, I'm just trying to build a portfolio, like I actually. So yeah, uh and it's sort of like initially. Uh this is just I I help you, you help me. Right. You you bring me to a good show that has a good audience that laughs. I make a good video. What happens? What happens? But uh of course I would love to get paid. Yeah. Even for comedy, like stand-up.

SPEAKER_04

It took me what, like a year and a half to two years before I started charging people for uh for like and this was even before I had the studio. I would uh and but and this time I didn't have a job. I didn't have a nine to five, I didn't have I just had comedy, whatever I had saved from uh the gig that I left, and uh I did it for about two years unpaid. Jeez. And uh I drove like I I had this one client that was in um was like Huntington Beach or Huntington Park that uh I would drive from Chino to pack up my whole and this was like a three-camera basically it was all this for free, yeah, and I would be there for like eight hours. Dude, I would have given you at least ten dollars for all that. At least gas money, at least right a couple beers.

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And that's that's uh for me as a partner. I was like, okay, this is taking time away from us, yeah, this is taking time away from you. It's eight hours that you could be doing something else, or even you know, and and that's when you have to kind of realize, and it's not to say like, oh, you're getting greedy or anything like that. And I think what you're doing is cool because we did that alone.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you have to you have to build something, yeah.

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Yeah, you have to give it away.

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And plus, he's he's uh he's learning, okay, the the ins and outs, okay. I should do this, I shouldn't do this, okay. I should. Sorry, my creditor's calling me.

SPEAKER_05

Um it's for the camera that he bought. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I still owe money for it. They were not cheap, yeah. We see you're still using the cameras on YouTube right now. No, uh go ahead, Ember.

SPEAKER_02

No, uh that that's all I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

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But yeah, you it it'll get there.

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I know. I mean, uh and uh worst, at least I can film my own stuff and edit it. That's really what I want to learn. Yeah, I'm just using other people's like stuff practice. But I want to but ultimately I bought the camera for myself to film my own stuff and put out my own stuff. I didn't I didn't get into editing just to make money or anything. I just want to be good at it, you know, before I put out my own content. Because I've seen some people put out like clips that are just like this could have been good if you like had a nicer camera, nicer audio, subtitles. Like this is a good joke, but it doesn't land the engagement because it just it's not shot perfectly. Yeah. And that's a technical thing that people you you only learn if you're shooting, you know. You just can't go on YouTube and just like try to like learn from there. You have to do it. Yeah. So 100% dude. But it takes a lot of time though, and I already uh don't have that much time to write jokes like that are good at least, and then go perform them. And then now I'm like working on Da Vinci. I was telling her, like, I went to I woke up for work at 6, did got off work at 4 45, went to Noble L's at 5 45, set up, did all the show, got home around like 11 30 from the show, went on DaVinci, edited, and then I wrote like a guide to like memorize like how to where to put the tripods, like what's the best shots, what I did wrong, and stuff like that. I I will I finished that at 5 in the morning, so I basically stayed up 24 hours just like trying to perfect this little thing because I'm like That's awesome, dude. It's fresh, you know. Like I just did it, so I need to remember like what the mistakes I made so I don't because like uh one of my friends wants me to shoot for Brady Improv, like a like a big show. I'm like, I don't think I'm ready for that. I barely shot Noble Ales, you know, but you know, at least I never know if you don't try it. Yeah, exactly. You don't want to try it. You're gonna do it, right? I think so, yeah. You should he has a second camera already, too. That's a Sony that I know how to use, so I'm like, oh that's even better. And I'm I don't know. I'm I'm I'm waiting to finish up this Noble Ales footage to really see how it all comes out and show him, like, hey, is this what you would want? If he says yes, then I'll do it. So we'll see.

SPEAKER_04

It's gonna come out good, dude. I freaking hope so. Yeah. Are you usually like that with certain things? Like uh the whole thing about um coming home and and doing a list and I'm very I try to be organized.

SPEAKER_05

Well, especially with like jokes. I feel like when I think of like a good premise, I need to if I'm like driving on the freeway like a nine miles an hour, I'll try writing it down because if whenever like a creative idea comes to me fresh, it's I need to get it out as when it's still like hot.

SPEAKER_02

What's your sign?

SPEAKER_05

Uh uh INFP, I think.

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What's your zodiac sign?

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Oh, zodiac sign. I was like, wait, what? INFP? What is that? I was said IMDB. It's like I love movies.

SPEAKER_09

No. What's your zodiac sign?

SPEAKER_05

It's a Libra. Oh.

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I don't know anything about Libra.

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Yes, you're like, that's the one that we do research on.

SPEAKER_02

You do exactly like Gil is exactly like I'm the exact same way.

SPEAKER_05

I know you are. You're you're seriously, I can tell you're always on top of things. So I'm like, okay, we at least have common ground on that. Yeah. You're organized.

SPEAKER_04

I have to. If not, I it bugs me. Go crazy.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Well, my whole thing is like the reason why I even started writing things down is like I read this thing where it said, like, your creativity is like a spout. And like if you have a good idea and you don't write it down, it like clogs up that spout. Yeah. So if you don't get it on paper, you're always gonna keep ruminating on it, and you won't have like room for like newer, good, better ideas.

SPEAKER_04

Where'd you hear that from?

SPEAKER_05

I don't know, but did you hear that before?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's from uh there's a same concept like that, but it's from uh uh Elizabeth Gilbert, uh she's a writer. Uh her book called Big Magic. She has a concept like that in her uh in her book. I mean writing stuff down.

SPEAKER_05

Writing things down should be it it just makes sense. Yeah. But from a creativity level, it also makes a lot more.

SPEAKER_04

Well, yeah, because you you write it down and it keeps your your brain away from trying to remember it. Remembering it, and it leaves like space for other things to come in and out.

SPEAKER_05

And also it just kind of sh just have you like meditation. You want to have a clear mind. You know how you can have a clear mind if you're trying to remember the stupid premise that you just thought of.

SPEAKER_04

Like Yeah, I have dude. I'm like literally like writing things all day. This is just from today. Okay, from today, dude.

SPEAKER_05

That's wild. Yeah, you don't have like a specific notebook you write it at?

SPEAKER_04

I do. So when I do, I have a a bigger notebook and I write uh like just the notes, the paper. Yeah. And I I do like I have like a every couple days I get all this stuff together. Put it together. And uh I either like tape them on like the big page or like glue them.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, okay. Got a little arts and crafts going on. Yeah, seriously, it is like a macaroni statue of all your whole premises. That's cool.

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Yeah.

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I mean, did you ever type out stuff? Or do you think that's a good idea? At the beginning I did. Really?

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At the beginning I did. Sometimes I do like I I wrote this, uh, like I talked to text and then I dropped it in uh you know, document, and then I printed it out at work. And then um, I don't know. I I just feel that it's different typing versus writing.

SPEAKER_05

Well they say when you write, it's like you should write the way you would actually say it instead of as opposed to typing, which is writing it out. Writing yeah. That kind of practice is how it makes your voice sound more natural when you Oh really? Yeah. They should say you're writing and you're speaking like vernacular, it should match. But if you don't write a lot, it won't and I noticed that because sometimes when I'm typing stuff, I'm like, I wouldn't say the butt bit like that out loud. It's like this is way too wordy. Oh, you're all you're you're typing. I'm only I used to start my first started for like the first two years I was writing the notebook, but then I would like forget like which were good bits, like how I organize it, like how do I like add to old bits if the page is full? So I just move over to typing it on like my PC.

SPEAKER_04

Do you start first on paper and then you move everything to digital form?

SPEAKER_05

No, I just go straight to digital. Oh. I have like two notebooks that are like synced to my PC and my phone. So if I have a premise, I'll write it out on the premise. But I have a set list, which like that's those are like finished bits.

SPEAKER_04

Oh.

SPEAKER_05

And then I you can like toggle them. So like it'll just show you like the keywords, and then if you hit it, it'll show you the full content. Like if you kind of forgot the joke, you want to remember what the but then like you can minimize it so like I have like a little set list like at all times. And it's synced to my PC, so I can go home and like type it out better. Like and you can bullet points and you can do cross it out. Like that one didn't work, so I'll cross it out. Button. Dang, you get pretty into it, dude. It's very color-coded. I think notes for this podcast, honestly. Yeah? Yeah. What you got? Just a couple things like uh things that I heard you ask. Well, like I actually wrote a joke for the other.

SPEAKER_06

I can't tell it because I said I fucking wrote it.

SPEAKER_05

And now you damn it, you killed a bit. But uh there's a couple things that I noticed that you asked, like uh some of the other guests, so I wanted to be prepared and act like I had a really prolific answer off the top of my head. Oh my god, for five years? Yeah, of course. I didn't think of that yet. So that and just other, you know, these cool play stories.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't think anybody could out nerd you with maybe. I was just like, okay. I'm glad.

SPEAKER_05

I wrote notes for Andy Calderon's podcast, and there's no structure on that. I'm just like, all right, let's just be funny, I guess. Just funny, funny, funny, funny, funny.

SPEAKER_02

I like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I like it.

SPEAKER_02

See, I'm like, oh yeah, I remember that.

SPEAKER_05

You'll go. I will say though, when I get when I try to approach that like comedy with that kind of attitude, typically that's when I do the best though. If I'm like looking over on my notes and I'm like, okay, I remember this. We're just we're if I'm riffing, I'm like usually killing.

SPEAKER_02

Are you organized? Not like that. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

You can speak. You can talk if you want. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, he he he has like a calendar for both of us that I'm supposed to be filling out.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Today he's like, can you fill it out for us? I don't know what's happening. I'm like, I told you.

SPEAKER_05

I don't know what's happening. We literally just started that too. Yeah. Having a calendar, a shared calendar. No, you gotta do it. And me, I'm like look at that. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, it's color coded and everything.

SPEAKER_05

Brother, brother, you are talking to uh your your your twin. Yeah. Color-coded, everything. That's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02

Don't get me wrong. I I can think for myself and I can get us through everything, but it does help to have someone who's bullying.

SPEAKER_05

But if he's bust out the calendar, then I'm like, all right. Someone's gonna do it.

SPEAKER_04

It's better not me.

SPEAKER_02

But I have a really good memory. The memory, huh? Like I have a great memory.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I I think I'll I'll I will say this. After I started writing a lot of stuff down and and putting everything in the calendar, my memory, I feel like it, it, it hasn't gotten better. It hasn't gotten worse, but it hasn't gotten better because I'm so used to writing a lot of stuff down. Even at work, if somebody tells me something at work, I'm like, fuck, I need to write that down. If I don't write it down, then it's gone. It's gone.

SPEAKER_05

No, exactly. There's just so much stuff going on. I'm like, dude, I'm not only just at work, I'm thinking about something like the show tonight. Yeah, exactly. Like I gotta write this down. Yeah. And if it's not important to me, then I might not remember it. And I might not even care about the ramifications of forgetting it. So I'm like, that's why it's not important. So I gotta write it down.

SPEAKER_04

Another thing with that too is is I you touched on it earlier about uh you feel like your, I guess your set or whatever you were saying as it was written as opposed to just being, you know, off the top of your dome is roofing. It comes out different.

SPEAKER_05

It feels more like myself sometimes. I feel like if I can really learn how to channel just how I am, just like off stage, just like in conversation, I'd I'd probably be better in comedy, but it's just the fact I'm trying to write like the perfect structure of the joke, you know?

SPEAKER_04

It's a balance, it's a balance, yeah. It's a balance. I've been practicing a lot of not going off of my notes, not going, not doing my structured bits, exactly just trying to uh do stuff on the fly. And we do so much improv, I guess, improv conversation or just conversation in general on the podcast. And uh shout out Orange Stand stand up, Orange County standout.

SPEAKER_05

We love you.

SPEAKER_04

I I did uh the proof bar. They proof bar. Uh Daniel uh had me host. Yo, and it was I had so much fun. Just it's a fun room.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, and that yeah, they'll play back if you're playful. I've hosted them so many times, and it's so fun if they're with you. Oh, yeah. You can get away with a lot of things, and everyone's everyone's fully in. It's a really special room for sure. Yeah. Especially when you're hosting, you get a chance to like kind of you have things to kind of do in between sets, like you already have like things you can call back on.

SPEAKER_04

So my favorite thing, my favorite, absolutely 100% favorite thing in the whole wide world hosting is tagging another uh comic joke.

SPEAKER_05

I feel like I write other comics jokes better than I write my own jokes. Like, yeah, you can keep that if you want. I don't feel bad. I'm like, dude, this is such a better tag, but I'm like, I this it would actually make the joke get laughter instead of bomb, I think. But I never say that. I'm just like, well, if you want to use it, you can, but it's it's hard to give, you know, tags to people sometimes because it feels like you're thinking about it.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, you mean like giving them tags? Like telling them a tag? Oh yeah, I don't. Uh I'm I meant doing tags like after they're set. Yeah, after they're set to the audience.

SPEAKER_05

I would have no, I'm always under the under the assumption if I'm doing that tag, that's their joke now. Oh, yeah. They can use it if they want to. Oh, yeah, of course. So it does feel like in a way you're punching up their joke live. Yeah. And if it's killing more than their joke, it's like then I guess it's your joke then. You you want it. I guess. I mean, I don't know. That's hosting privileges. It is, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You're like, here's a gift. I mean, I it's a token for working.

SPEAKER_05

It is work though.

SPEAKER_04

It's fun. It's fun, but it's it works out a different uh part of your brain and part of your muscle and a and a different part of uh creativity, especially with writing. If you if you love to write jokes, it's uh it's a perfect exercise to keep you on your feet. Exactly. Listening in your like when you're listening to other comics, you're you're entering their world on their perspective of how they see the world, and you have to take their perspective and make it your own in like four minutes. That's like a challenge for me.

SPEAKER_05

And I'm just like, But it's funny though, and it's the only instance where you really can do that. So I I always tell the comics like you should host, just try hosting. Even if you don't like the idea of hosting, it's a good muscle to try. And also you get you're in front of audiences. Right. I mean, bet you you want to get everyone wants to get booked. That's the ultimate goal. And booking or hosting is one of the routes to helping get booked. Yeah. If you're a good host, though.

SPEAKER_04

Did you finish the uh Sarah Silverman book?

SPEAKER_05

Oh I had that on my calendar for two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_04

Do you have that in your questions?

SPEAKER_05

I I I I was I wanted to talk about it, but I'm disappointed. I had 50 pages left. I was gonna finish it today, but I had a bad day at work and I was busy.

SPEAKER_04

It's okay.

SPEAKER_05

So I couldn't finish it, but I finished most of it.

SPEAKER_04

I don't remember it anyway, so I don't have any questions. Damn it. Yeah, Adam, dude, I felt so bad. I felt so bad because Adam Chong uh uh like every every comedy book, right, that I listen to or read, I'll I'll post it. And he read uh Jimmy Carr's book, uh After and Laughter or Laughter and Whatever. I don't know. Okay, can't remember it. Jimmy Carr's uh book. And he asked me, he was like, Oh, like what's what was like your favorite takeaway concept from that?

SPEAKER_07

And I'm just like the cover looked cool.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that's I like the blue.

SPEAKER_05

The words were easy to read for sure. There are not a lot of big words in it.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, you know what it was? Okay, now I remember, and I'm answering Adam Chong's question. Adam's for you. Yeah, so okay, so one was I had to uh I I had it on Audible and I was listening to it, okay, and I had to slow down the audio because he was talking way too fast for me.

SPEAKER_05

I had to like when it's a good pace. It's a good word. I'll finish it in eight years.

SPEAKER_04

It was good. That's why I didn't finish it. Yeah, but it was yeah, it was really good. Wait, he talked super fast. Yeah, he well, it's did he narrate English?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he's English. Can't even understand him at a normal speed. Exactly. Like subtitles. You just need to read the book then. That's what it is. Subtitles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I do that sometimes. I have the physical book and then I do the audio, and I like it.

SPEAKER_05

If I love a book, I will do that for it. Yeah, I will go out of my way because that's the best way to really capture it.

SPEAKER_02

If I have to like hurry up and read like a little faster, I'll put it on like the next speed over. Oh, yeah, I do 1.25. I I for I'll never forget that.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, to speed it up? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

My mom sent me to a speed reading uh class one time in the summer. I was so mad. Now now I'm like, okay. Did it really help? Yeah, it did actually.

SPEAKER_08

What did they make you do?

SPEAKER_05

Just read faster.

SPEAKER_02

It was um it they sh they taught you how to read, yeah, like how to read it.

SPEAKER_04

They hired Jimmy Carr to They hired Jimmy Carr to come help you read.

SPEAKER_02

No, it was like legit, like how to read faster and how to and you know what? Now that I think about it, I don't know if it helped me or it didn't, because now I can read and I won't read everything.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So what it does, it helps you keywords. Identify keywords so that way you know what's going on, but you don't have to read the entire thing.

SPEAKER_04

I won't end up like after that, if I take that class, I won't end up talking like that. A British? No, no, no. Like skipping words. Skipping words. I mean, I ski I skip words. I go store. I go store.

SPEAKER_02

I go store macaroni.

SPEAKER_05

Macaroni cheese.

SPEAKER_02

And then there was like a like the way that you also like read with your fingers. Yes. So it was like, so we had to follow it.

SPEAKER_07

Use a ruler sometimes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and then they would test us, and we would have to read a certain amount of like words per minute. It was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But would they like test to see that you actually read all of them and you understood them?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yeah. So it was like like reading and comprehension at the same time.

SPEAKER_05

Damn.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, honestly, I wish I took that too, because that would make my life I would have so much more free time.

SPEAKER_04

Do you do audiobooks or do you read the actual uh physical books?

SPEAKER_05

I try to do physical books because I like to bring it everywhere I go, even though I never read it when I bring it. Every 20 trips I bring it, I read it once. Same. But uh I like the audio, but then I listen to a lot of podcasts, so sometimes I don't really feel like I'm grasping it. So and I like having the physical copy to like lend it to people if it's a good book too.

SPEAKER_04

But yeah, I only read I only read the book if they don't have it on audiobook. And I think I should read Jimmy Carter's.

SPEAKER_05

Wait, so you listened to the Sarah Silverman book?

SPEAKER_04

Right, and I bought it too.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my gosh. Why? She narrated it's so boring the way she narrates it. Are you serious? I did not like it. Are you reading it more reading it? Are you kidding me? I love Sarah Silverman too. She's one of my favorite comics in the world. Really? But I I'm like, oh, she didn't really.

SPEAKER_04

She didn't read it very well. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05

That's just my thing. I like reading the book. The books are free.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like her voice is her voice in my head. I love her voice though.

SPEAKER_05

It's just very monotonous, and she wasn't performing her way to stand-up. She was reading the book. She did a couple of jokes in there that were the book. But were they in the book?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, they were in the book.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, okay. And I those had me howling, just reading the jokes, you know. But I love Sarah Silverman too. She's one of my favorite comics. So I was excited to listen to the audiobook. But no? I mean, I'll listen for you because I wanted to finish and talk about it.

SPEAKER_04

Look, so the only time that I found uh uh was the Jimmy Carr uh incident. He read it too fast. That that wasn't our thing. And then another one was uh, you know, Sam Talent. Yeah, of course. He he wrote uh what was that book? He wrote Running the Light. Running the Light, yeah. Which was a non-fiction. Yeah, not fiction.

SPEAKER_05

It's fictional but biopic kind of about a failing comment. That audiobook is I heard that one's good.

SPEAKER_04

Really?

SPEAKER_05

Well, that one they say they have different comics reading every chapter, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but it didn't sound consistent. One of them sounded like they were doing it on the car, like in tracks. It's hilarious, though. Another one did it like in an actual studio, another one sounded like they were just had their phone like this, talking. I was under the assumption they were all using the same equipment, just like a professional grade.

SPEAKER_09

Nah, then no, that's not true.

SPEAKER_04

It was so hard to get into the the story. Did you read the book? I read the book. Heard's good. It's really good. I cried. I cried at the end. That's how you know a book is good. Yeah. I read uh Ronnie Danger books. Oh, the Ronnie Danger books. Ronnie Dangerfield's book and I cried at the end. Steve Martin's? Steve Martin's, I cried at the end. That one had me in the city.

SPEAKER_02

I just walk into the room and he's He's just crying.

SPEAKER_05

He's like, oh, you finished it finally. It only took him eight years. I finished.

SPEAKER_02

And I was like, what were you doing? Reading?

SPEAKER_05

Uh yeah. What are some of your favorites one?

SPEAKER_04

What are some notable uh Ronnie Dangerfield? Because uh I d I love him. Uh just as a joke writer, uh performer, uh just an overall human being. Fun to yeah. Uh Norm McDonald's. Uh of course. Um legend. Sam Talents, that that runner in the light is is is so good. And as of recently, as of recently, um I think that's it for now. I think on your uh to read list. To read oh my god, dude. Too many. There's too many.

SPEAKER_05

Do you read non-comic biopics ever?

SPEAKER_10

Not recently.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no. Do you ever consider it?

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No.

SPEAKER_05

Do you know they exist? Do you think they really don't know? No, he does.

SPEAKER_02

We have a bookshelf. We have quite a few bookshops.

SPEAKER_04

I I'm and this is gonna sound really nerdy, but I am into uh self-help stuff.

SPEAKER_05

I was for seven, I have you can have all my books is I've read every self-help book thinking that I that's gonna be. Yeah, that thinking I was gonna be better, but I'm actually the same person and now I'm$20 poorer now. And I just wasted like seven months reading this.

SPEAKER_04

Uh Drew Carey's book was Dirty Jokes and Beer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was really good. Um, Bob Sagitt's Dirty Daddy.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's a good one. So do you read like you read like an array of I used to be so into self-help and finance books. I was talking about finance bro when I was like in my early twenties. Really? So anything, common stocks, uncommon profits, think rich, grow rich. You know, you probably heard that one, you know the art of the deal. Yeah. All that boy, the art of not giving a fuck. It's always art. These guys have they don't even know what art is. They're talking about the art and just like shut the fuck up. But I would do that, and then I started reading the I started to get into comedy. I started reading more about a like comedian like Biopics, Steve Martin, Born Standing Up, my favorite. And then just recently I read somewhere, I read online that like you should learn to read more fictional books to kind of help with your creativity and imagination. Oh really? So I've been reading a lot of like Kurt Kurt Vonnegut recently. Uh I read Hunter S. Thompson, which isn't fictional, but it is very creative in the way he writes.

SPEAKER_02

Fiction is is I I like to read a lot of fiction. I I read both, but I like to read a lot of fiction. And for me, I I really like it because I I'm creating a movie in my brain. Like in my mind. Like as I'm reading or even listening, it's like I'm thinking of nothing but the movie playing in my head. And I like I create the characters depending on how they're depicted. And like it's like so I think that's what what they're kind of referring to is that your brain is just constantly like being creative and creating these movies with your and I mean like think about it this way too, like surely you can think of a better character than Timothy Chalamet playing that character.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Because you like whoever is this person in your head more. And think about like the setting of a sh you can you can use CGI and whatnot too, but your mind, you can do shit that in your mind that CGI wouldn't can never do ever. So like your brain is the strongest production like system if you if used correctly, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because I mean it's cool to I I also read like you know, books about people and like things like that, like like real things, but you already know what real things look like. You know, like no shade, but like you know, I just thought right now, like Steve Martin, you know what he looks like when he referenced other people in his book, you know what they look like.

SPEAKER_05

Places he's been to.

SPEAKER_02

Places he's been to, you know what they look like. So it's like you're you just have to, you know, you kind of imagine.

SPEAKER_05

You want to kind of create new.

SPEAKER_02

And I think that that's why a lot of people have um a lot of issues when books, especially like fiction books, become uh like series or movies.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, of course.

SPEAKER_02

Because it's never what was playing in your brain.

SPEAKER_05

Well, definitely, yeah. Even then it's never as good as whatever like the average vision was in the first place, too.

SPEAKER_04

I tried uh Louis C.K.'s Ingram. Oh I just couldn't get into it. I heard it's really dark. Yeah, it's really dark, but I couldn't get into it. Damn. I think I I'm a good writer yet. I have to give it a r an another go. But it's because I'm used to those other genres of or style of writing, and I just I think I just need to give it a.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I thought you were saying you're more used to like Louis CK just telling like dick jokes or something.

SPEAKER_04

Which is also true too.

SPEAKER_05

It's like hard for being like the dude who wrote this? Like bluegill.

SPEAKER_04

It's pretty dark, it's pretty sad. That's another one too. I'm just like, oh fuck.

SPEAKER_05

But that's also why it's good though. Like this kind of type of darkness and sadness can only be conveyed through a fictional story sometimes.

SPEAKER_10

That's true.

SPEAKER_05

Like so much so much trauma can happen to this one person where it's still kind of interesting to read as well, you know. There still has to be like an arc that keeps you captivated, at least.

SPEAKER_02

But I think that uh it also has to do with um because I remember I read a book and then I suggested it to like my cousins, and then they were like, I I I couldn't even start the book. Like, especially I didn't even want to start the book like during the day because it ruined their whole day.

SPEAKER_04

Because it was like oh it was the the one. Oh, dude, I couldn't get through that. And I'm all like eating popcorn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Wait, Oprah's book is that dark, it ruins days?

SPEAKER_02

Which one?

SPEAKER_04

It was um was it by her or was it on her like list?

SPEAKER_02

No, it was on her list. It was on her book.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, it's on Oprah's okay, yeah. She didn't write it.

SPEAKER_02

But it's about like abuse and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean terrible mentally, like I'm not gonna say it doesn't affect me, but it doesn't affect me to the point. Like things are to me. Yeah, it's not gonna ruin my thing. But but then I had to remember, like, oh well else. Someone else, that which was like my cousins, or even like Gil was like, I don't wanna, I don't wanna like it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, your sister was describing the book to me, and I was just like, oh my god, why would you want to do that?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I'm like, oh my god, I can't put it down. So I think that too has to do with and that's the beauty of reading, is that there's so many different books and genres and everything for everyone, you know?

SPEAKER_05

And it's like well, the traumatic books are actually probably the most useful because you don't want to experience the trauma yourself, but you do want to learn how to relate to it and learn the lessons from it, right?

SPEAKER_02

See, that's how I think. But then there's like I I'll say my mom, like my mom will be like, I couldn't sleep last night because I was just thinking about it, and then it might like it was like spiraling. No, like it like it affects her.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but that's a good thing, it's making her feel something.

SPEAKER_02

It is, but I think it isn't either. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, you can feel it, but but not to the point where it's these are just words corrupting.

SPEAKER_05

These are just words on her on her page, dude. Give her a comic book just so you take the page off me.

SPEAKER_10

Just don't read, mom.

SPEAKER_05

I feel no more only movies now. No more books for you. Yeah, you're only gonna watch The Office and Friends now. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think it just depends on who it is, where you're at. Sometimes too. Like I so I I run a book club. Oh, did you? Uh I do, yeah. And we read a book recently, and I the it was my second time reading it, and I was like, oh, I loved it. It it's traumatic, it has a lot to do, and then especially now with just you know the climate that we're in now and things like that.

SPEAKER_05

Very hot.

SPEAKER_02

And and some of the you know, people in my group were like, I I couldn't, I couldn't finish it. Like it was too much. And I was like, Oh, I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_05

Too much trauma?

SPEAKER_02

Like it was too much, yeah. Like it was like can you tell us what's what is it too much of? It was um it's about like uh migrating to the US and immigration rights and like when like some of the kids in cages and things like that. So I think for a lot of people, like a lot of people in my book club are educators, so a lot of them work with children, and one of them she brought that up where she's like, I I just couldn't, like I didn't want to because we are physically like in reality going through this with some of our kids from school, and she's like, and then to go home because I think what it was, it's like she deals with that during the day, and then she didn't want to go and do that as her leisure time or her relaxation.

SPEAKER_05

It's like a chef you come home, you're like, Hey, can you cook me a fucking eight course meal after? I'm like, Well, I just fucking cook work cook all day. I don't want to cook anymore.

SPEAKER_02

And to me, I'm like, people need to read this, it's educational, you learn from it, da da da. But then I was like, Oh, can Can we read something more lighter? And I was like, oh, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_05

Fine. We'll watch Chronicles of Narnia and Harry Potter or something, I guess. Again.

SPEAKER_09

But I get it. I I do. I get it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, and I mean, it like any form of media or art writing, it affects people differently because we don't know what what kind of trauma that they relate to. Maybe it's triggering something for them. But I would think that an educator would be the most like empathetic towards it and be like, okay, we need to really fully grasp this story, take it in so I can help my kids, you know, that are in this kind of situation themselves. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. But well, that's why she's there, right? She was there to not to forget all that, I guess. Yeah. That that was like her that's true, that's true. That was her time for herself away from the reality of that.

SPEAKER_02

So then the next meet I had to take all of that into consideration. That because I was like, no, I had to kick her off from the group.

SPEAKER_05

So she's banned now. You're emotional. No, we doxed her. No.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

No, but I had to take all that into consideration. And then I was like, you know what? It's not just me, and it's not just what I enjoy. It's a group of people coming together and you know, doing this. So then the next meet, I was like, okay, so what do you guys do to um find joy and peace? I'm like, oh, trying to figure it out because it is it's a learning curve. Like, you know, it maybe it sounds silly and someone's like, ah, it's just a book club. No, it's not, but it's not, it's community. It's community, exactly. And then I have to take that into consideration. So I was like, Yeah, noted.

SPEAKER_05

Well, that's what a trade-up a good leader is, is like knowing how to just manage different personalities, navigate that, understand the differences, and can reconcile at the very end. Yep. And you're doing that through books. So like if it's hard on a book, then you imagine just like on a different level, like something that's even more powerful than just like a book club, you know, like try imagine like running a country, you know, like all those differences. I don't want to get into politics, but I'm just saying like a book club from that scale is already like stressful. Can you imagine like even how much more it could be?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, to to run something at a larger scale and more differences in people.

SPEAKER_05

And book club, you know, like books are supposed to be joyful too.

SPEAKER_02

So like That's what I'm saying. That's where I didn't To me, it was Yeah, I don't want to say it was joyful, I wasn't getting joy, but I emotionally I'm able to handle it, you know? We're not a monster. To me, it was to me it was educational, right? Yeah, it's like hey, we we need to talk about it. And not only do we read books and like uh hee hee. No, it's like I curate questions, I do writing prompts. Like it's it's like a whole workshop that we do.

SPEAKER_05

It's a whole thing, thought-provoking stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's to be they're not all like that, but but should I put you to work?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, you're gonna write a little bit.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we should start a book club. You and me? Yeah, it's just me and you.

SPEAKER_05

And it's just us two. It's just us two. It's just share books, you mean. Let's just buy one but one copy and we'll share it.

SPEAKER_02

But you guys can. You guys should do like a comedy book club.

SPEAKER_04

I don't think comedians like reading nuts. Which is kind of look, this is crazy because you're writing, right? You're you're you're supposed to be writing as much as you can, and to learn how to write, you should read other people's writing.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

Or watch other people's stuff, or be around stand-up as much as possible, or watch it at the very least, and listen to it.

SPEAKER_05

But writing is directly related to reading. I mean, like, at the very least, you should be you should be watching.

SPEAKER_04

No, it's it is reading. Yeah. Writing is reading and reading is writing.

SPEAKER_01

Are you guys twins?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. I thought you said right wing. I was like, reading right wing? Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_09

The Republicans are doing it now.

SPEAKER_05

Should defend me up.

SPEAKER_09

Maybe they need to do it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

It is. I I I think you you have to. I mean.

SPEAKER_08

I mean, it's like the same thing as like watching Ozark season one through five.

SPEAKER_05

It's like you could put that time towards reading a book as you could. I know. It's a shock.

SPEAKER_04

Did that happen to you and you got upset and you're like, I just don't, I just don't know one one episode one season down, goddammit. I should have been sitting down writing. What am I doing? And it's not good. It doesn't end well. That's why I'm pissed off. But season one?

SPEAKER_05

I actually never watched a show. I just I just like to say that show because I know some people like it.

SPEAKER_04

It was really good, actually.

SPEAKER_05

I liked it. Yeah. I heard it's really good.

SPEAKER_04

Jason Batman is a phenomenal actor. I think after uh after like the mob, or not the mob, but the the Mexican mafia like started like getting into like their stuff. That's why I stopped watching.

SPEAKER_05

See, that's my exact gripe with breaking bad. Is like when the shows like get blown out of proportion, where it's like now the fucking the cartels involved and like removing millions of dollars. I'm like, this is not the same story it was alien from Venus.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05

Then Vin Diesel comes and he's like, what the hell, Vin Diesel? Did you watch Barry? Uh yes. I actually I watched the first season, surprisingly. Uh I actually really liked it. Did you finish it? I didn't finish it. No, when I didn't like it enough to finish it. Really? Because I feel like it the quality just kind of like plateaued a little bit.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I but it was what I did watch, I loved. Yeah. I finished it what, like two days ago. Oh, you just yeah, I just I just watched it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, it's so good.

SPEAKER_04

The first season, at least it's so good. Yeah, I just I I have I must live under a rock or something because I always get into things really late.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_04

I have no idea why. Like I don't, I don't, and I question this all the time. You might be like a you might be like a hipster, I think that's to call it.

SPEAKER_05

You think so? Yeah, you're just like uh it's cool now. We all gotta wait 20 years when it's been too. No, but it's it's bad because I have nobody to talk to about it.

SPEAKER_06

You can talk to everyone about it that's watched it before. I remember You're talking to me about it, I watched it seven years ago.

SPEAKER_04

I know, but but I'm okay, but it's not fresh in your mind. You know what I mean? Like if I say a line is good, though. But if I say a line from it, you're not gonna remember it. I don't remember it.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I don't remember that's what I thought.

SPEAKER_02

I don't remember anything, but uh but he doesn't get you I watch more TV than Do you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Like how much more?

SPEAKER_02

Like what's like a uh I mean I've watched all those shows all the shows in real time.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, so you on week by week coming and out.

SPEAKER_02

But he he doesn't like or he he'll turn it on and then he walks away or he starts doing something and it's like we we don't really I don't know. We do watch stuff, but our attention span has become a lot shorter.

SPEAKER_05

That's every single no one's attention span's gotten longer, I think, in the last like ten years. No one.

SPEAKER_02

I used to be able to sit and like watch a documentary and freaking like watch something after, like binge watch things.

SPEAKER_05

I can watch three, four movies a day back in the day. Really? I can watch maybe one, two of at me.

SPEAKER_02

And you get up a few times? Or you grab a phone?

SPEAKER_05

Right on the couch just locked in back then though, but nowadays I'm pausing, I'm looking up the Wikipedia, what else has the directors done? That's what I do. Making food, pausing it, watching it in parts.

SPEAKER_04

Look, this is what I've heard when it comes to our media now, is that people are consuming more short form short more short form content and long form content. Sure. So you want to do like a f like an eight-hour podcast? No, I'm saying that when people are are in the world.

SPEAKER_10

You got a diaper on, we're gonna do go for the long form.

SPEAKER_04

We have a rush back here. It's a whole fuck you, Joe Rogan. Double yours. So it's it's it's either those two, though that's what people are are are watching.

SPEAKER_05

So what is there parameters? What what's considered long form then?

SPEAKER_04

At least uh uh two hours. So most most movies. But even consider that most season uh like take Barry for instance, right? Those episodes are 30 minutes long, right? 30 minutes long, but we're in uh a time where we can watch one season in like a few hours.

SPEAKER_05

That's it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That I to me that that's considered long form content.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, for sure. I mean, that's the only reason why I wait for shows to come out in full, because I want to watch it all at once. I hate waiting for like the next week to do that. That's how shows come out now, right?

SPEAKER_04

Not what they they just come out just here's one season, watch them or not.

SPEAKER_05

Netflix for sure, but HBO, they HBO they're a little bit more integrity. They'll do classic. They're still classic. They know their shit is really good still, and it does build hype. Got it. And honestly, it's the best way to sometimes it's the best way to really uh consume a show just waiting and just processing that first episode you just watched first before you even moved on to the next one.

SPEAKER_02

But I have a a bone to pick with HBO, especially like when Game of Thrones came out. Did you ever watch Game of Thrones?

SPEAKER_05

I love it. One of my favorites.

SPEAKER_02

When we had to wait like two years for one fucking season, I was like, come on.

SPEAKER_05

The the seasonal transition, that's too long because we forgot about it by then. It should be one year most. And even one year is pushing that. I feel like you should.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like one year is long. Yeah. Remember when they did that?

SPEAKER_05

They did like a two year two and a half, it was three years. That was the craziest like wait. Well, I was at some point, I was like, I don't really give a fuck anymore. It can come out like in ten years and I'll still watch it, but I don't I know I'm not hyped about it anymore. It like lost its like momentum because of that.

SPEAKER_04

They can behead Jon Snow at this point.

SPEAKER_05

And it wasn't even a good season. That was the worst part. Did this is just like the one of the worst seasons.

SPEAKER_04

Did you watch Game of Thrones when it was like first coming out?

SPEAKER_05

I watched like starting season two. So like by season two, our new But you watched it every week. Waited for the next year or six months for it to come out.

SPEAKER_02

I think that's how I started too, like season two. I got in.

SPEAKER_05

It's when you know it was good already. How did you feel about the ending? Uh you don't know what to ask this. You already know the answer. No one likes it. Yeah. It's so bad. It's one of the best shows, honestly, of all time. Like the first five seasons is some of the best five TV you'll ever see. It's really good. Even if you're not into medieval and dragon and fantasy bullshit, it's politics. Me neither. Love and loss and action and toys and the red wedding. Oh my god, dude. I don't that's all I gotta say.

SPEAKER_02

Don't don't.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ruin it, but oh come on. If if I've seen a show, if I've seen it, me, Gil, if I've seen a show, then you haven't seen it, then I don't know. Wait, my girlfriend's something wrong with it. Oh, sorry, my bad.

SPEAKER_05

I don't know if she's ever's gonna see it either, though.

SPEAKER_06

But if you do get to watch it, yeah, I'm not gonna force her to watch it.

SPEAKER_05

You sit down and you enjoy the best show of all time. You don't your generation doesn't understand.

SPEAKER_04

Keep watching it, keep watching it.

SPEAKER_02

But there is a good Well, I kind of was like, come on, come on. Come on. And he was like, ah, I don't know. I don't know about fantasy and dragons.

SPEAKER_05

And I was like, oh that's how my best friend was. He's he doesn't like Lord of the Rings and stuff like that. He's like, it's not shows for moments. Just watch one season. I promise you, get through it. If you hate it, don't watch it. And he's week by week. You know what hooked me? On the time, on the dot.

SPEAKER_04

What hooked me was when um what's his name? What's his name? Uh pushed what's his name? Jamie pushed the thing.

SPEAKER_05

The the white little white boy. Yeah. Little potential Neppo baby. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

That was your first twist that me, I was like, oh, that's cool. You know, like I've seen.

SPEAKER_04

Well, no, I was like, okay, let me keep watching. Oh, okay. That kept you going. I'll keep watching. And then after that, it was like more things got added.

SPEAKER_02

And I had to be like, okay, okay, it's gonna get better. It's gonna get better. Like, don't fall off, don't fall off.

SPEAKER_05

Like, what brought me into it is the exact scene, and I'm not gonna try to spoil it for my girlfriend, but it's when someone's dad gets their head cut off in front of everyone. That was cool. I was like, truly, they're gonna leave, let him live. He's like the he's the main character, and then they killed him, and I'm like, oh, so the show means business.

SPEAKER_02

And I had to be like disclaimer don't get attached to any of the characters. And he's like, why?

SPEAKER_05

And I'm like, just I got to attach to seven characters and they all died, and I'm like mourning every loss every single time. It's such a good show, though, because I never get to feel that kind of investment towards a character in any other show.

SPEAKER_02

I was excited. I kept looking at him like watching someone else mentioned.

SPEAKER_04

The Red Wedding was like, oh my god. That is honestly the best episode of TV of probably.

SPEAKER_02

He's like, What why didn't you tell me? Why didn't you tell me what's gonna happen on that?

SPEAKER_05

I ain't gonna tell you, you gotta just see for yourself. Also, Battle of the Bastards, that was awesome. Oh my god, dude. You love that? Yeah, that that season is so fucked up, though. Yeah, you want to talk about traumatic stuff. Fucking Ramsey, dude. That character was wild. Even the name Ramsey, I'm like, Who did you hate more? Ramsey or uh Joffrey. I hated Ramsey more because I could kick Joffrey's ass. But Ramsey might be. You think he could take Ramsey? No, he might give me a run for my money. Uh-huh. Like he might fight dirty, throw something in my eyes, but Joffrey's a little kid. He's like 14 years old. I can just kick him like down the stairs. Yeah, but he can't.

SPEAKER_07

He'll come back.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Dude, you better kill him.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god, dude. That when he goes like bye-bye. Oh, we love that. Oh, dude, I played it like three times. Yeah, no. Over and over. I made a like music video on YouTube. I clipped it and I was just like, I was watching it. It was my It's like a celebration. It was my ringtone for a little bit. Yeah, just to wake it up to that. Every time I got a text message, it was my alarm clock.

SPEAKER_07

Alarm clock.

SPEAKER_04

Your wallpaper.

SPEAKER_07

It's your wallpaper for your phone. Yeah, posters on that scene.

SPEAKER_06

It's like, this is like game of their own poster.

SPEAKER_07

It's like, what is that? Just this.

SPEAKER_09

He makes me wear a cutout face.

SPEAKER_07

But like a dead body's face, though.

SPEAKER_05

He's not alive, alright? I made t-shirts, so t-shirts, R IP. It was great.

SPEAKER_02

It's a great show.

SPEAKER_05

It's a great show. HBO releases bangers.

SPEAKER_02

Have you watched House of Dragons?

SPEAKER_05

I did, but I don't really like it. I watched stuff one season and it fell off.

SPEAKER_02

You couldn't get into it.

SPEAKER_05

I'm trying the newest one.

SPEAKER_02

Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. And that one's a little more promising.

SPEAKER_05

What'd you think of it? I'm only like two or three episodes in, and I like it so far. It's more like funny and casual. Yeah, it's really a Game of Thrones. So yeah, it's not really a Game of Thrones show, really. It's just what I thought. This is like a medieval sitcom.

SPEAKER_07

Seriously. It really is really a lot of time.

SPEAKER_04

It's silly. It's so silly. Like it's funny.

SPEAKER_05

Well, because also the character is just super dumb too, so he just puts himself in like dumb situations. Yeah. But it's a good show. Any HBO show, it's always good.

SPEAKER_02

Did you watch Shameless?

SPEAKER_05

I watched a little bit of that, but that one's a little bit genre's a little out of my what kind of like genre is that?

SPEAKER_04

Uh uh Sex. I'm still trying to figure out like show.

SPEAKER_02

No, Euphoria is more like mean girl. I think shameless is like it's tragic, but it's also like comedic. Like there's a little bit of comedy.

SPEAKER_05

It's very raunchy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but it's also like centered around family. Yeah. I don't know. I think it's just a lot of genres put into one.

SPEAKER_05

It's like if modern family made like met trailer parkours or something.

SPEAKER_10

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

But I heard that, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

My friends, my friend loves that show.

SPEAKER_04

I love that show. Shameless. Yeah. Yeah, I I really can't put my my finger on whether you like it or not. Whether I like it or not.

SPEAKER_05

It's very unique. Yeah. But it I I mean it does cover a lot of like good subjects though, but like drug use and like, you know, just growing up as a kid in that kind of environment around drugs and sex. It's like some people can relate to that, and I think that's important. Maybe yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Maybe I have to give it a try.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you have to get you have to get over the hump. I think a lot of shows are like that where you have to just get over a couple episodes and then you be invested into it. Because there's a lot of character development in that show. Yeah. It there's eleven seasons.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly. There's eleven.

SPEAKER_02

Eleven.

SPEAKER_05

He's like, I don't want to watch anymore. It's too long.

SPEAKER_04

It's too long. That sounds like a long time.

SPEAKER_02

He wanted to watch Breaking Bad, and I'm like, uh, there was a reason why.

SPEAKER_07

But you stopped him from breaking.

SPEAKER_02

Well, because we were like, what series do we like watch? And I I didn't finish Breaking Bad.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02

I just uh I don't know. I fell off of it.

SPEAKER_05

It's kinda just like the same thing with Ozark. I was saying it kind of got blown out of proportion where it's like not believable anymore. Do you think Breaking Bad got proportion? I mean he's making math for the cartel. He's a science teacher. It's like, yeah. He went to space. Yeah, he went to space. Yeah. So did Amazon. Come on.

SPEAKER_02

You said that you you both really like movies. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That's one of the first things that I mean, our first date really online was just watching a movie together. But we watched movies. We watched Project Hail Mary recently together and we loved it. Project Hail Mary. Just came out. They came out last week. It's Ryan Gosling. Okay. Based on a sci-fi book. He's basically a science teacher. Funny enough. And he's and he's just trying to save the world. Oh. Is it in theater or it's on theater, but it's gonna be on stream. But we watched it in IMAX for like that full experience. People say you need to, and it was worth it.

SPEAKER_01

Nice.

SPEAKER_05

I'm not usually an IMAX snob. I don't even understand what IMAX is, honestly, but they say you gotta go watch it in IMAX. Yeah, just a bigger screen, I guess. Really? She watched it twice in one week, so that says a lot. Do you like it? That was good? Yeah. So if she thinks it's good, it's your favorite movie.

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Spirited Away.

SPEAKER_05

Spirit Away.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05

Studio Ghibli. That's like that's the top 50 of all time.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think he's seen it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, he's not.

SPEAKER_02

It's an animated movie. That's my nephew's movie.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, it's an animated movie? Yeah. It's a Japanese. You never heard of it? No.

SPEAKER_02

No, he's like fucking.

SPEAKER_04

Dude, I told you I'm I'm late to everything. You are late, huh? I'm old. You just started OCD.

SPEAKER_02

I had never I had never seen it or like heard of that movie, and it wasn't until my nephew. Oh, my nephew's into it. So that's how I seen it. And then I was like, oh my god, it's so good.

SPEAKER_05

So good, right?

SPEAKER_02

But I seen um that's the same one that does the Kikis. Yeah, we saw Kikis in theaters.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, yeah, I seen that it was so that that's my favorite.

SPEAKER_02

I remember seeing that movie like when I was a lot younger. Oh really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That's my personal favorite of that studio for sure. Where is it at? But yeah, I'm surprised. I um do you like animated movies though?

SPEAKER_04

Um Have you seen Toy?

SPEAKER_05

Do you know what Toy Story is?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, Pixar, yes. Pixar, when it comes to Pixar, hell yeah. But anything other than that? No. You watch anime? No. I think maybe that's why.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's probably like a there's a cultural type of animation. So it's anime. It's a Japan no, it's a Japanese, like stuff. It's a Japanese movie. Oh. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

So okay see, I didn't I didn't grow up like I mean uh the Kiki one that I seen was because they showed it to us at school.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's a sickest one.

SPEAKER_02

But it wasn't um it wasn't anything that like came from.

SPEAKER_05

In your zeitgeist, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But my nieces and nephew are very into like anime and that's right. So that's how I I know it, but it was nothing like within like other kids at my school didn't. I mean it wasn't until I got older that I was like, oh, okay, that's it.

SPEAKER_05

Anime wasn't even big until maybe like, you know, 15. So like it's been more like spread to non-Asian communities, honestly, in the last like 15 years. So like this movie, like, of course, knows everyone heard about it. It wasn't playing in American theaters yet, so like how how would we even know about it?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But it's so good.

SPEAKER_02

We we got Mateo a bunch of stuff from this character for Christmas, like two years ago. No? Don't remember? Okay, never remind me.

SPEAKER_05

He's like, he's like looking at it for the first time. He's like, what is this?

SPEAKER_02

He's like, here, Merry Christmas.

SPEAKER_10

He doesn't even know what he's giving up.

SPEAKER_05

No, it's really good. It's really good. It's a good watch, it's heartwarming, there's challenges, redemption, everything. It's it's a really good movie. It's one of the best movies, though. I I would say too. And I'm I'm a little bit of a snob of movies too. Are you? Yeah. I I I update my letterbox religiously, so that says a lot about me. You update your what? My letterbox. What's that? It's like your Yelp for movies.

SPEAKER_04

Oh. Is it is it like a what is it, like a an Instagram for movies?

SPEAKER_08

Or it's kind of like you can follow people and see what they like.

SPEAKER_05

You can it's really it's basically the log your movies and then you can rate it.

SPEAKER_09

That is like a yelp, like a rating. You can rate it. Really?

SPEAKER_05

They have those? And you can like it, and then what you can do is you go like to like your watch list and it'll show you movies based on your likes.

SPEAKER_08

Whoa. So it's easier to find movies that you like.

SPEAKER_05

No way. But also you can get a record to see how many movies you watch per year. And that that's what I'm more worried about. I want to put up numbers.

SPEAKER_09

I didn't know that existed either.

SPEAKER_05

I fell asleep halfway then. I'm counting it. I watched it. Yes. I didn't know that they had to check it. It's a good one, it's a good site to find movies to watch. Look it up. I want to see this.

SPEAKER_04

What is it called? Letterbox D. We have We talked about opening this for the podcast. About can you have like a uh like a watch list or like a wish? I have a watch.

SPEAKER_05

I I make lists for my friends like to watch movies. Like my top I have a top 50, like so these are my favorite movies. Letterboxed. Oh. So you can like go to like films, like look at you can look at the best films from a decade, from a year. Whoa. Most popular or most like high rated. So you can really find some. And that I'm uh I love watching movies, so it's I need something to like have all the movies archived for me.

SPEAKER_02

I'm trying to do this, but with books, that's smart. So the library is doing like a challenge for the year.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And then if you complete X amount of books, they give you a bunch of like library merch that's branded with the Los Angeles library.

SPEAKER_05

How do you validate that you finished the book?

SPEAKER_02

So it's uh you go online, you register, and then you have to like log in like the book. I well, I guess I guess not really. You could just say you read a bunch of books. Yeah. But I'd be cheating myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

But yeah, 10 pages, sure I read the whole book.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, anybody could say I read Yeah. Because you're what you're doing is you're logging in like the book that you read.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, do you have to scan it or take a picture of it?

SPEAKER_02

You scan it or take a picture of it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. I would do that. So one signs uh notarized for I saw him read, I witnessed him reading it.

SPEAKER_02

A witness, I need a witness.

SPEAKER_05

I'm driving, reading the book. So it's like, yeah, it's a pretty cool website, and people will get her write reviews, and they're always funny reviews. You'll get some laughs. There's some funny people on here.

SPEAKER_02

Is this better better than like Rotten Tomatoes type of? I mean, obviously, Rotten Tomatoes is by like movie critics, right? But I feel like sometimes they're it falters. Yeah, their critiques are a little like she doesn't like Raw and Tomatoes.

SPEAKER_05

I used I guess I'm older, I used to like it, but I like to balance it. If the audience and the critics are both high, then typically it is a good because audience really they don't lie. But then I always use all form. I use letterbox rating and then IMDB rating, and I kind of average it out. Even the Google rating sometimes. She no rating, she just watches it, goes in blind. I make sure the book the movie is worth my time before I consider putting it on my watch list. Really? Only because I don't like watching a movie and then like oh, what a waste of two hours. I didn't get anything out of it. I could have watched a better movie.

SPEAKER_07

And only have so many hours per day.

SPEAKER_05

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02

You're always trying to max maximize your time, huh? Yeah. I'm noticing a theme here, Pat. I only have so much time.

SPEAKER_05

I worked, and then I have like what, six hours to myself, not including dinner. Like, okay, I only have so much time I'm gonna watch a bad movie.

SPEAKER_04

Have you have you has that happened like recently? Like watched a bad movie, and you're like, What I could have used this.

SPEAKER_05

Well, the last time we've actually watched a bad movie, we were like just like kind of browsing like her like Samsung like cable ding. And there's this movie called uh Evil Empire, Friday the 13th, chapter 2. So I'm like, oh, it's a Korean film. We watch it. Worst movie I've ever seen in my life. It was shot on an iPhone. One iPhone, too, not even multi-cam. Are you serious? It felt like that. I don't know. Look it up, I want to see this. That's what I felt. People make uh no, there's not even a letter, there's not even a letterbox for it. Because it's there is seven watches. Seven people watch it in the world. And one nine now, I guess.

SPEAKER_02

One movie I watched that was Korean, but it was like a Korean whore. It was a shit.

SPEAKER_04

It was like called like box or cube or like storage or something.

SPEAKER_02

No, it was the one that they were on the train that were zombies.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, Pro Train of Pissan.

SPEAKER_02

That one.

SPEAKER_05

That's a good one. That's one of the best zombies movies, too. That one. Yo, don't step on Asian films.

SPEAKER_04

I'm talking about the one where they were like stuck in like a like uh uh storage or uh like cells. Everybody was and there was there was like an elevator that was there's levels, right?

SPEAKER_05

There's levels, yeah. I think that one is called Cube. Cube? I think so. Or no, the platform. The platform. That one was dumb. I don't remember that. That's a little bit of a classist movie.

SPEAKER_10

Like I don't remember that one.

SPEAKER_04

I but I like the theme. The theme is was was great.

SPEAKER_05

Classism. Yeah. Better layers. Mm-hmm. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_08

I don't think it's good. Is it Korean though?

SPEAKER_05

No, right? No, it's not okay.

SPEAKER_04

What is it?

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It's like a Spanish, I think.

SPEAKER_04

It's you, you idiot.

SPEAKER_09

He doesn't speak Spanish either, so he doesn't know.

SPEAKER_00

It was he he didn't know. God It's okay, he came out five years ago.

SPEAKER_05

He has to wait another ten years for it to he understands it. He gets it. I don't know things, dude. I don't know. This is why I have the podcast, so I can learn things. Oh, that's good. That's smart, it's a good way to learn things, huh? Live in front of people. Yeah. First, he must show that you don't know anything at all. And then you learn things. Yeah, you can't.

SPEAKER_02

See, that's a disclaimer because people get all mad and they're like, why are they on here talking about stuff they don't know? You need a disclaimer. We don't we don't come on here to talk about things like we're we're not telling people, hey, this is facts. Like yeah, we're having discussions about it, and sometimes we don't know, sometimes we might know, sometimes we might know a little bit.

SPEAKER_05

Sometimes we just straight up lie because it's funny.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like it's just fun. Well, I I don't I don't like the purpose, but I let me retract that. I'm not trying to go with you, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And that's a lie.

SPEAKER_02

But no, but some people get their panties in a bunch because they think like, oh, these people are on here and they have to like no.

SPEAKER_05

Just because they have microphones and nice cameras, yeah. They better have something nice good to say.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and we're not telling people to go out and watch things or buy things or anything like that.

SPEAKER_05

What we like.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You like it, then you like it. But we're not saying you'd like it. So fuck you.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. Pissed off now.

SPEAKER_01

Bye.

SPEAKER_04

And if one person on TikTok says something and then it just spirals into like the the video that I was talking about, the airplane thing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

About the skip lagging uh on uh on an airplane. I'm not gonna repeat it because yeah, it might go viral again. Uh I was literally just reading. Okay, I get it. Maybe I was I was reading slow. Look at I am right now I am defending myself. I was reading slow because I couldn't see the screen. Okay. I I couldn't see the vision. So I was like, I was I was I was reading it like very slow. They were like, dude, like they got mad at you for reading slow? They got mad at me for reading slow.

SPEAKER_02

Well, they were like, this guy doesn't even know how to explain it. Like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_08

Okay, send in an audio message and you see the C you do better. You do better, then you can be the host without packing.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, dude, my favorite my favorite one was somebody tried to explain it like in the comments, and then somebody was like, dude, you you you just you just said exactly what he said, but you just changed the cities. That's so funny. TikTok, man.

SPEAKER_02

The internet's wild. I know, but it keeps us in business, so yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, about the internet, we wouldn't even be here having this conversation.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly. Well, we'd be here talking, but just not recording it. I love the internet, but I kind of despise it at the same time. Double-edged sword.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, this one Project Hail Mary, it says interstellar but for gay people, which is kind of on point because low-key, uh shit, oh see, like I I I like seeing people's feedback and things, but I feel like I take all of that with a really, really small grain of salt. And I it's like I'm kind of like you. Like, I if I want to watch it, I watch it because I remember I I mean I I've told this story on here before, but even like Yelp, like sometimes I go on Yelp and I never go on Yelp to read like the comments, it's more to see what it looks like, what does the food look like, things like that. Because sometimes people think that because they write on these platforms, they're this like they're they're critics for critics of everything. And and I I always say this story, but when Orchateria first opened, this lady came in and and she left us a review, and she was like, Oh, um uh, you know, one star, she left us like one star. And I'm like, Oh, okay, what did we do wrong? I'm like reading it, right? And then she's like, Um, the the drinks were great, customer service was great, everything was great, but I gave them one star because they don't sell tamales.

SPEAKER_05

That's wild.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm like, we're not a tamal shop. Like we're a coffee shop, first of all, and you're gonna give one star because we don't have something that you'd want to eat. Because she said she's like, oh, I would love to eat a tamal with like a frock. She wanted a tamale with frock.

SPEAKER_05

Uh I don't like this place because it doesn't sell marijuana. Usually I like to drink horchata when I'm high. Yeah, one star.

SPEAKER_02

So that's why to me, I was like, oh no. Like, I'm if it's something that I'm like, okay, it's something that we can fix, absolutely. But things like that, I'm just like, uh, come on.

SPEAKER_05

Well, people are more ten, you know, they have a tendency to just write a review if it's bad, because they want to like you know, air out their negativity. If that writes they had a good experience, whenever you're ever gonna write a good review, like a good one, let me move on. You never ever tend the time to write something positive. It's always something negative that pisses you off because you want other people to be able to see your negativity and bring their business down.

SPEAKER_04

Have you wrote a bad uh review anywhere?

SPEAKER_05

No. I never I never I don't even review the movies I watch. Oh, you don't? I just like or dislike them. I just like them or don't. Why not?

SPEAKER_08

Because I don't feel like I don't know. I feel like you can Four out of five, five out of five, that's such a big gap.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like you can you can write a really good review. I wrote in two reviews, actually. On book on movies that I loved. I feel like you can you can write a good review. Like a very good, detailed, fair review.

SPEAKER_02

Color-coded review.

SPEAKER_05

It's also simplified in Chinese Mandarin as well. So everyone can read it.

SPEAKER_02

He's like, I did all the Cornell notes for everybody. This is what you have to watch.

SPEAKER_05

All of TikTok can read it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You want to read the review? If you look at my user profile, it'll be the first one that shows up. What is it? My loser just if you go search up on the top right here. L-O-O.

SPEAKER_10

L-O-O.

SPEAKER_05

S-Y.

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S-Y.

SPEAKER_05

F-U-R.

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F-U-R-2 fur. Oh, oh, I've got it.

SPEAKER_05

Uh and just click my profile, the first one with the Burt Simpson.

SPEAKER_02

He's like, yeah, we're gonna take a review card.

SPEAKER_05

Can you go back one and read my uh read my bio?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I'm very proud of my bio.

SPEAKER_02

Hold on, it's verifying we're uh real people.

SPEAKER_05

The Bart Simpsons were really like gotcha. Damn, dude. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_09

Wait, so I go where?

SPEAKER_05

Uh you just go back.

SPEAKER_09

Like one arrow.

SPEAKER_05

You see my Instagram. You see my bio under my name? Meyer Briggs Personality IMDB.

SPEAKER_09

Oh yeah, Meyer Briggs.

SPEAKER_05

Even if it's a personality type. But if you go to you click my reviews, I like that little tab. I wrote one or two reviews.

SPEAKER_09

You have more than one or two.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, so I wrote five. I wrote five. Six, seven. I wrote 49.

SPEAKER_00

It's like I just only wrote. I've only written one.

SPEAKER_05

I only want one real one, okay?

SPEAKER_02

Interstellar walk so Project Hail Mary could warp light speed. Okay. My eyes are still flowing as I'm writing this. I love my grandma. Oh, you put crying. Wait, was that you? Yeah, right. Runtime, one time, and crying. You will finish having laughed, teared up, and been fiercely entertained. God, I love comedy. It's the Conan O'Brien one. Okay, okay. These are good, these are positive.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, yeah. I only write if I like it.

SPEAKER_02

That's how I feel. Like, I think we should write reviews when you when you like it. I I get the going somewhere and maybe having um bad service or things like that. But I also feel, or or you not liking it, but I also feel why was that so funny?

SPEAKER_05

I was 11 parts. No parts is I don't know. Because he just found out what the Simpsons were. That's why he hasn't started watching it. Yeah, even though the Simpsons are.

SPEAKER_02

But I feel like why why taint it for somebody, right? And it's not.

SPEAKER_04

Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. No. But what if you're trying to like warn people?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02

Like you warned me about that restaurant.

SPEAKER_04

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02

That was I was like, I could have died because of you.

SPEAKER_04

She just wrote you up one star.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, what about uh I wrote one star?

SPEAKER_04

It was you, huh?

SPEAKER_10

It was me.

SPEAKER_05

You did the podcast.

SPEAKER_04

Definitely not Amber77. What the heck? She's trolling the podcast.

SPEAKER_02

No, let me tell you this little story.

SPEAKER_04

No, hold on, wait, wait. Let me uh let me finish my go hurry. I'm interested in her story more honestly.

SPEAKER_09

It's taking you three business days. Come on.

SPEAKER_04

He reads slow. I'm a slow reader, okay. Relax. No, you are warning people. You are giving your bad experience so that way other people don't go and waste their time, waste their money, waste their whatever. Uh the haircut thing. I almost I I literally had to, I erased like all my information off of my Google account. Yeah. Because I was lit, I was gonna write a fierce, like really bad review of it. Is that a haircut? Is that yeah, it was a supercut lady haircut.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, well, that's your first mistake.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_07

That's where white people go get their hair done.

SPEAKER_02

That's kind of what I said.

SPEAKER_07

Supercuts.

SPEAKER_02

That's why when he got home so pissed. That's why when he got home pissed about a haircut, I was like, you can't be mad. You went to supercuts.

SPEAKER_07

Like you went to McDonald's and got diarrhea. Oh supercut, dude.

SPEAKER_05

So did you write a bad review?

SPEAKER_04

No, I I wrote it and then I erased it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's good. That's a good practice. Write it, get it out of your system.

SPEAKER_04

No, I no, no, no. I didn't I didn't even write it there. I didn't even post it. I wrote it on like a Word document. Because I was like, no, I'm gonna get her good. I'm gonna make it funny.

SPEAKER_07

You're punching it up. I'm working it out of open my views.

SPEAKER_00

You think what are your credits? What are your credits, Google Reviews?

SPEAKER_07

Uh by the way, I'm hosting uh on uh Thursday at 5 p.m. If you want to come to open my comedy.

SPEAKER_04

So you're just plugging your own show at this point. Super cuts. That was that was the only time. And I uh Is it that bad though?

SPEAKER_08

The haircut?

SPEAKER_04

No. Was it bad? I don't even remember. See, look at it.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I did.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, I did. Like that.

SPEAKER_02

We're all fighting.

SPEAKER_04

You're screaming at her. Yes, I did. Alright, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02

I forgot what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_04

No, that you're the oh, the reviews right now when I snapped at them. Oh yeah, I love that part. Do it again.

SPEAKER_02

It's because we went to this Korean barbecue place in Cerritos.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. Are they even still in business? Or is it called God? I hope.

SPEAKER_02

It's called Moo. Moo.

SPEAKER_05

No, that's not a good name already.

SPEAKER_02

Hell on a their logo. Their logo was like a play on uh on McDonald's. It was like the McDonald's.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, so now they're stealing fucking IP too? Oh, I hate the I fucking hate.

SPEAKER_02

This was like when we first started dating, right? Yeah. Maybe like uh maybe like two years into stating, I think, right? Yeah. Around there. And we go to this Korean barbecue place, and it was like in this like massive like location, and I was just like, why did I need so much space? But whatever. As soon as we walked in, it smelled like kind of funny.

SPEAKER_05

Well, pretty bad. Like what? It smelled like um bad or just distinct.

SPEAKER_02

No, it smelled like piss. Yeah, like cat urine. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, that's a very unique level of it. It was very pungent. Yeah, pungent. Yeah, that's how I.

SPEAKER_02

So we got in there and we're like, and then I was like, oh, okay. And then I was like, Do you want to stay? And he's like, um, I don't know if you want to. And I was like, I love that.

SPEAKER_07

No one wanted to. I guess diarrhea.

SPEAKER_02

But that was there was a lot of people. There was a lot of people getting there. There's a lot, like, you know, it wasn't just like people were waiting, and I was like, okay, maybe it's a buzz. Maybe I can stand the smell, like it's okay. Well, they the hostess comes and then she like you know, walks us to our booth and everything.

SPEAKER_04

And I I hate this story so much. I love it already. Because you know that I I hate the story so much.

SPEAKER_02

So I'm walking ahead of him, and you know, and so I go and I sit down, and then the hostess is between like me and him, so he's behind her in the middle, and then I sit down and I see him like sit down, and then he's just like okay, and I'm like, You good? And he's like, Yeah, yeah. And glory, so then the food comes out, and I'm like, Oh, the food looks good, I'm cooking it, everything. Yeah, and then he's just like, Oh, uh I'm okay, I'm okay. Like, he ate like a couple bites, and then he says, I'm okay, right? So I'm cool, dude. Like, yeah, so I'm like, Okay, maybe he's being modest because we're just like dating or something. Two years in, you know, still fresh. Still fresh, but you know what I so I'm like, okay, but I'm over here like gorging on Korean barbecue. Like I like to get it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, for as you would at a creature any Korean barbecue base?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and then he's like, you know, okay, I'm done. I'm like, all right. Anyways, we leave, doesn't tell me anything. He tells me until months later. Was it months later? Yeah, it was like months later.

SPEAKER_04

Or maybe weeks.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, same thing. He he tells me not immediately not there in terms of your story and he's like later, and he's like, I I I need to confess something, and I'm like, what? And he's like, I just keep thinking about it, and I, you know, I gotta tell you, and I'm like, what happened? And then he's like, It's because when uh she went to go uh seat us, so they sat us at a booth, and right behind the booth was like the area where you where the utensils are, the napkins and everything. So he said that he looked over and there was rat droppings.

SPEAKER_04

How do you know there were rat droppings? It's just so small. They were pepper. Well, they were like uh yeah, see, we we don't know if they're rat droppings.

SPEAKER_02

No, you know, because where he worked, it was something that they had to like look at. So he's a rat dropping professional. Not a professional, but he knew what it looked like.

SPEAKER_04

I could see, I could see.

SPEAKER_02

Then why didn't you tell her?

SPEAKER_04

I I don't know. I didn't know how to tell her. I didn't know how to tell her.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't know how to tell her that I'm just all rat droppings in utensils. No, I didn't know how to tell her. There's only one way to say, hey, there's rat droppings in utensils.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because he could have been like, hey, there's rat droppings where the utensils are.

SPEAKER_04

Let's watch out for the utensils. No, no, no. Let me correct you because it wasn't right there where the utensils were. It was uh there was like a little space uh like where booths meet.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

It it wasn't there was no utensils. It was like we were sitting in the room.

SPEAKER_05

But it was close to them because I remember the utensils in the vicinity of the utensils. Yeah. I mean, there was rats present in this restaurant in this establishment.

SPEAKER_09

That's enough. So he omitted uh from eating a lot. He only ate a few bites, but he let me know.

SPEAKER_04

No, it wasn't look he ate something though.

SPEAKER_05

So he did either you eat one piece or a lot of piece, you're just still gonna get poisoned.

SPEAKER_04

It wasn't it wasn't that I stopped, it just I it grossed me out a little bit. It wasn't because I thought I was like, oh, there was gonna be something in the meat. No, that it was just that Amber would be like, oh, rat poison, that's all right, you know.

SPEAKER_05

I eat rat poisoning all the time. I actually prefer it.

SPEAKER_07

Wait, they got they got rat droppings here?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, this is a fancy establishment.

SPEAKER_02

You know, you can get the the rat droppings pattern.

SPEAKER_04

On the side though, on the side though, please.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah, that was it.

SPEAKER_04

So how could I tell her? I didn't know I didn't know. I was just really nervous at that point. Yeah, no, I get it. You know, you don't want to ruin the vibe.

SPEAKER_05

You draw up there, you wait in line and everything, and it's like not on the food, so it's like, you know, you see a hair on the food, so you don't see you know, I picked it off of the upside.

SPEAKER_04

I wiped down her utensils when she wasn't looking. It's fine. Okay, look, after that, I was very hyper-vigilant when the food came out. So yeah. He's like looking every under every flap in the room.

SPEAKER_02

I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, nothing.

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Nothing.

SPEAKER_04

Look, I was very look, the whatever was around us was fine, minus what was in the back of you. Yeah. This was good. We were good. Yeah, yeah. We were good. That wasn't right. We were in the the the healthy bubble. Yeah. There's a safety zone. There was a safety zone. Yeah. So we we were fine. It was it was we were fine.

SPEAKER_05

I think I see both sides. Honestly, you guys make such good arguments at uh that I I I don't know who's in a right and wrong, but there's no wrong. It's just but you should there's only one room that you shouldn't mention.

SPEAKER_00

But uh you should have mentioned rats.

SPEAKER_05

That's just your girlfriend.

SPEAKER_02

It's not like there was a hair in the food. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actual vermin in the I could add hair in the food and I just eat it.

SPEAKER_05

I'm like, I'll just take it out. Take it out. It could be my hair. I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Well one time I had it like baked into like a a roll. Oh, that's fine. At Texas, Texas. Uh was it Texas Roadhouse?

SPEAKER_05

Damn.

SPEAKER_02

No, it was one of those barbecue places. And then I went to bite it and then the hair went.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, like a mozzarella cheese pool.

SPEAKER_02

And then I just put on the side and I was like, all right, it's okay. And I kept eating it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's okay. It's because it's barbecue, it's so good. Actually, never mind, I'll I'll tell you after that.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, by the way, you know where we have to eat.

SPEAKER_06

I saw roaches.

SPEAKER_04

No, it wasn't it wasn't one of those. It was like one of it was a pincher bug, but those are like because of like water. So I mean it wasn't. He ain't saying it.

SPEAKER_10

Okay. That's okay.

SPEAKER_04

Where did we go recently?

SPEAKER_02

Where do we go recently?

SPEAKER_04

I'm not gonna say the day because in in the past couple days? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, so you don't want to despair of the business on the video. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But that's not that's not like cleanliness. Yeah, I know. That's not clean. Like an old establishment.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, it was a pincher, it was a pincher bug. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That's anything. That that adds to the character.

SPEAKER_04

The only reason why the only reason why is because they're I think it was uh maybe the customer was mad or whatever, but I don't know why they would they have like a it wasn't a vase. They had like um like roses in like a 16-ounce cup, like a cup like this, with water and like flowers in there, just like standing, and then somebody picked up their food and like dropped it on the floor and nobody was picking it up. So I went down and and picked it up. I got the the cup and the the roses still had thorns in them, and I fucked up my hand for from picking up the roses because I didn't know they had thorns still in them.

SPEAKER_02

What the heck? And you didn't tell them anything?

SPEAKER_04

Well, yeah, I I gave it to the girl because she was like neosporin too, by the way. Well, I gave it to her because I was like, oh, she's like, oh, thanks for for picking it up.

SPEAKER_02

You're like, no problem. Yeah, I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_04

Anyways.

SPEAKER_02

I I know things happen.

SPEAKER_04

And I and I seen it on the floor, so I was like, I was like, ooh, okay. Because she brought the the um the slippery when wet setting.

SPEAKER_02

Oh and it was like you should put pinch or bug when wet.

SPEAKER_05

Wait, where are you guys going to see all this stuff? The Amazon? Yeah. What the heck?

SPEAKER_07

It's just what Paramount's like.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

It wasn't in Paramount, it wasn't in Paramount.

SPEAKER_04

It wasn't in Paramount, it wasn't in Paramount. Not in Paramount.

SPEAKER_02

One time though, I will say this. One time we were at a restaurant. I won't say where it's at. That one was in Paramount, but this was years ago, like maybe 10 years ago. And we were eating, and they had fans, like the ceiling fans on the top, and we were all eating like a like a big group of my family was eating. And then I'm across from my aunt, and me and my aunt are eating, la la la, and then I see something like fall, like, and then she was like, Oh my god, what is it? And I was like, What was it? And it was a big roach. Oh, and it was on the ceiling fan, and I guess when they turned them on, because they weren't on, and then they turned them on, and then it like flipped it off.

SPEAKER_05

And then did Gil just like pretend nothing.

SPEAKER_02

No, he was like, he didn't uh he didn't exist yet.

SPEAKER_05

He wasn't uh he wasn't there yet. He wouldn't have said anything, anyways.

SPEAKER_02

No, and then they comped like our entire meal.

SPEAKER_05

Are you serious? Yeah, that's the very least. I mean, we could just sue you and get like 20 times this amount, so like we should get like a three meals or something. I mean, you know, that's nothing like a hair. That's fucked up. That's a failing violation on the health code.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, huh.

SPEAKER_05

You're lucky you're still in business after tonight.

SPEAKER_02

Like they're still in business. Oh, good on them. So I don't go, I haven't gone back.

SPEAKER_04

Was he floating? Did it float a little bit or just like completely fell?

SPEAKER_02

No, it fell like poof.

SPEAKER_05

He was sleeping, and then the fan woke him up. He was mid sleep when he fall home. The fan was his mouth. He woke up, he woke him in puzzle. He's like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_09

No, I think he was eating like in chilas or something.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, even worse.

SPEAKER_05

He's like, oh.

SPEAKER_04

He did like a buzz light year thing where he's like falling with style to infinity and meon burgers. Chill in.

SPEAKER_02

That's why I cook at home.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02

No, I'm I'm not, I don't get grossed out. I really don't. Yeah. I but there's there's uh things where I draw the line.

SPEAKER_05

Of course. I mean, rat poop at a rat poop is a I would say any poop, really.

SPEAKER_07

Any poop, any rat? Rat poop?

SPEAKER_04

Rat for sure.

SPEAKER_07

It's the Ben diagrams.

SPEAKER_04

Rat poop is right in the middle. What's at the top? What's at the top of your poop uh diagram at a restaurant? Uh no, rat has to be at top, dude. Or human? Elephant poop?

SPEAKER_06

I don't know, the biggest size poop. I don't want to want it.

SPEAKER_04

I guess it's it's done by region. Yeah. Right? Yeah, yeah. You gotta do it by by hemisphere. So here it would probably be like human. Yeah, human. Well, actually. Like San Bernardino County would probably be like human. Yeah, like human at the top. Sorry. Because they're from San Bernardino? Yeah. Well, because there's more like homeless people in San Bernardino.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure.

SPEAKER_05

Uh, did you just say oh just like literally like what would be the yeah that's San Bernardino probably poop central. But human poop though, number one, for sure. Like that's just that's just disgusting because he had free free free willpower and he still decided to poop. Yeah. A rat's like, rat doesn't know.

SPEAKER_02

He's worries, but you can't blame the rat. But a human, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Poopin is like, oh, he was being fucking evil.

SPEAKER_02

I went to a show once, I've also said this far already. But this was years ago when I was in high school.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And we went to like a show in East LA, a ska show, and people were so anxious to get in, and it was by like uh the entrance was kind of by like the bus stop.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02

And then once they opened the door, everybody started like running. And then I was like, what the fuck is that smell? Like I was just smelling, like I could smell stuff. And then I was like, what is that smell? And as I got closer, so a homeless person had taken a dump at the at the bus stop. Yeah. And people were walking on the shit into the trailing it into the menu.

SPEAKER_05

Is that why they call it scat?

SPEAKER_02

You know.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Full of poop, I guess, huh?

SPEAKER_06

So then inside was like skucca on here.

SPEAKER_05

It also sounds like it too, actually.

SPEAKER_06

Let's mosh.

SPEAKER_05

Let's mosh, let's mash. Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up.

SPEAKER_02

There was human feces all inside for a while. Somebody had to come out and like water hose it down.

SPEAKER_07

It's a ska show at that point. You know, you know, they're they're grungy.

SPEAKER_05

They're like, fuck it, let's we're gonna rock either way, you know.

SPEAKER_10

No.

SPEAKER_05

That was awesome.

SPEAKER_10

I'm glad I didn't step on it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I'm glad too. That's just nasty.

SPEAKER_02

And it was like around the time it was around the time that girls used to wear like flats all the time.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, so the lost surface area. You can get a bunch of poop on it. The puppy can hold tons of poop. Try to sell shoes out like the ladies. You're a rebuck like this puppy and step in a lot.

SPEAKER_06

Also, you're a fans of ska?

SPEAKER_01

Are you imperfect?

SPEAKER_06

We got the ska edition. I got the perfect The Ska Kakas.

SPEAKER_10

The ska cacas 2000.

SPEAKER_05

They're just converses that have shit on them.

SPEAKER_09

Oh yeah. That was in 2007. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Circuit to the before social media, because this would have gone viral.

SPEAKER_09

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my god. We would never hear the end of the skull call story, dude. We had better times back then. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Things can happen.

SPEAKER_02

I'm glad that I did all my drinking in like early.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, dude, you would have been.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I would have been everywhere.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, there's a chick that was dancing on top of the bar and then she fell or something. I don't know. What did you do back then? I did. Tell me. You fell?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I fell quite a few times.

SPEAKER_04

Oh shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like off a bar? Uh no, it was like a table.

SPEAKER_07

Same same altitude, just different type of furniture.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and then stable. And then another time I was like on a bench. I was at Sharky's. Yeah, I didn't after Sharky's, of course. Well, I don't know if you know, but at Sharky's, um, there's like no when like the club starts, there's no tables or seating. Yeah, it's just but you can dance on the bench, but you can't sit on it.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Which is so weird. Dumb. But I was dancing and then I was like drinking, and then like the bench was wet, so then at some point I slipped and then I I went who threw my drink back and then I wet this like chick. Oh no. She wanted to fight me.

SPEAKER_05

Did you fall on the bench or do you fall into the ground?

SPEAKER_02

I didn't fall, so it's like like this, and then this foot went phew. Oh, so you didn't fall then. You just stumbled a little bit. But I threw my drink back and she was like, You fucking bitch.

SPEAKER_05

Oh no, not a sharkies.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. But I had a lot of friends, so yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That's been a losing battle for her. Yeah. You're lucky I just do a drink at you. I'll get their own punch right now, honestly.

SPEAKER_02

But I used to get like blackout drunk.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, before phones were to record videos.

SPEAKER_02

It was great. Because if not.

SPEAKER_05

Gil's like, I'm hearing all this for the first time. What the fuck? Honestly, I learn a lot about her every week. That's good. You should always learn more about your partner. As much as you can get.

SPEAKER_04

But when I got with him, I was I we drank for like a month, and then you're like, okay, I'm done now. And I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04

Forever? Forever. Not forever, but in general.

SPEAKER_02

But I don't I don't drink.

SPEAKER_04

Drink to get drunk. She does. She'll have a drink here and there, but not like plastered or yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That's how me and my girl are. That's why we probably get along. We can share one cocktail and we won't even finish it. It will be fucked up. Really? We wouldn't be able to drive home. So it's actually the perfect match. Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that is.

SPEAKER_05

What do you think? How do you feel about that? I mean, I don't like drinking, but it's always around like comedy. Like you either always buy. Did you drink before? I never drink. I don't like drinking. It gives me a headache. I get drunk so quickly. I'm so lightweight. I like every other drug though. I like what I lose, what I lack in drinking tolerance, I gained in like pretty much every other substance tolerance. Like it's weird. I like it that way. I prefer it that way though.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I don't I don't really drink as much anymore like I used to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You used to throw them back or what? Oh yeah. But did did you ever consider yourself as an alcoholic at one point though? Me consider myself? Did you have think of a you had a problem?

SPEAKER_09

Why do you have to look at me? Want me to say something? Yeah, no, I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_04

What's the right answer here, honey? Um, did I have a problem? Yeah, I I want to say yeah. Okay. Was it a problem? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, was he like a raging alcoholic? No.

SPEAKER_04

No. No. But he like if if we pull up the definition of like a functioning alcoholic, I'd probably fit. It'd be the thing you're a picture of you. Yeah. I'd probably fit.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe getting your uh stomach pumped might be uh getting your stomach pumped? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04

But I was 17. That doesn't count.

SPEAKER_02

Nah, that doesn't count.

SPEAKER_04

That doesn't count.

SPEAKER_02

It was a teenager.

SPEAKER_04

I mean they only count after you're 21. Anything before 21.

SPEAKER_07

I think if it if it's before 21, that's even crazier.

SPEAKER_06

How'd you even get that much alcohol illegal illegally?

SPEAKER_05

I don't know. That's wild. And then at that point when you got your stunning club by 17, where you're like, alright, we gotta tone it back a little bit, or were you like, oh, it's a fluke.

SPEAKER_04

No, it's uh double down. Dude, it was it was really early in the morning. I didn't eat anything. I wasn't prepared for this thing. It just it just happened. And I was I wasn't eating very much then. So it happened in the morning? Happened in the morning, so like seven o'clock in the morning. Wait, drinking and then getting your stomach bump? Yeah, well, I was uh I'll tell you starting your breakfast with Captain B. I was walking, I was walking to school, seven in the morning, and uh there's some guys that like popped over. They're like, hey, do you wanna hang out with us? Do you want to drink? And I'm like, ah Alright. No, I I wanted to hang out with them. Yeah. I want to hang out with them. You want to be accepted. I want to be cool. Yeah, you know. Of course. So uh they were they were chasing the vodka, it was vodka. Of course. Uh probably I don't know, like Malibu or some something cheap. Yeah. And they were chasing it with root beer. I wasn't chasing it with anything. I probably didn't eat, I probably was eating way less than I had, so I had nothing in my stomach. Seven in the morning. I was I I was a practicing vegan at that time. Oh, cheese. And I did not do it correctly. Yeah. You didn't have a job to pay for the exactly. So I didn't do it correctly. I mean, I thought chili cheese fries were vegan for like the longest.

SPEAKER_05

They have chili and cheese. Oh, okay. Never mind. Don't worry about that.

SPEAKER_04

But anyways, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's beside the point.

SPEAKER_04

And so I I was drinking with them and we're just talking, and then I I had a cell phone back then. This is senior year of high school.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

And uh the last thing I remember is like looking at my phone, and a classmate was texting me asking me, Oh, like, where are you? And in my mind, I'm like, oh shit, like I'm late, and I didn't like to be late. That's why I like woke up really early. And she texted me, she's like, okay, and I was like, okay, on my way. You know, OMW. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Damn, you even fucking say letters flow too. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_04

Amber help them out, dude. OMW, bro. Okay, okay, okay. OMW. Okay. And I pushed the gate, and that's the last thing I remember, and then I'm in the hospital. How much did you drink though? I don't remember. Enough to like pump you? Pump my stomach. I could have died, dude. Yeah. I mean, at 17, you shouldn't be. Well, 17, that, and then plus fake vegan.

SPEAKER_05

Falsely claiming vegan.

SPEAKER_04

The the street I was walking, this is what really hit me was the street that I was walking. The geography.

SPEAKER_07

If it happened on Brookhurst, I wouldn't have got drunk. But it happened on Harbor. And you know, on Harbor, it hits harder.

SPEAKER_02

If I was heading northwest. If I was heading northwest.

SPEAKER_04

You know the 4-5 south, right?

SPEAKER_05

Because it's really fucked up in the morning.

SPEAKER_04

Look, if I was if I wasn't on a busy street like that, then I wouldn't have thought it was a big deal. But it was a really busy street, and I thought about it. I was like, dude, I could have like stumbled, fell, and like I could have got like hit by a car. Maybe.

SPEAKER_05

Maybe, yeah. Or you could have been invited to that cool group. You know, now you're one of them too.

SPEAKER_04

So I didn't I don't worked out either way. Did I remember I don't remember seeing them after were they at your school? Did they go to your school or did it just hanging around near a school? No, it was one of the dudes' backyards. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like he was like popping, they were like popping, I can't I could see them. I can see them. They're like stepping over, they're like, hey, you want to hang out? That's not good. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, and you tell a kid in 2026 that situation, they're running immediately. No one's like, I'll drink this random beverage you give me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but those are the kids now. Because I I did really dumb shit too, and and that's what led me to stop drinking was because I was like, oh, uh, I could have died. Like, yeah, now I'm scared to go to the grocery store by myself, and I'm like, you die from that. But look now, I'm like, how did I freaking do shit? I wasn't scared.

SPEAKER_04

Get away with it, yeah. And this is what really got me because every Friday I would bring my own drink to school, and I think you know, gotta keep the tradition Fridays. I would put Yeah, yeah, you put vodka in a in a water bottle. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, we didn't I didn't have that tradition in my high school, but no, we had different districts probably. It's because we let me tell you.

SPEAKER_02

We were like punk, skull, like in that. And that's what that's what everybody did. Like they smoked weed or something.

SPEAKER_04

I smoked weed a lot, like we didn't drink. But alcohol displayed. Oh, okay. Maybe maybe it was that. Yeah, maybe it was that. That it's the culture.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, but so every Friday bring a box.

SPEAKER_04

Every Friday I would bring it, you know, sip it. Yeah. During school? During school.

SPEAKER_05

Oh man, that makes school fun, huh? It did. It was fun. So what was the next step in your like substance? Like, what was that? After that?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Would you jump there there wasn't really no no gateway? It was just liquor. I didn't even drink beer, it was just like liquor. I had I smoked weed like a couple of times throughout high school, but nothing after hardened core drugs or anything? No. Never, ever. No. Damn. It's good. Like what? Like cocaine? I tried it like once.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04

I didn't like it. No. Ecstasy? Like a couple times. Okay. Alright, so there is a gateway then. Okay. No, but that wasn't that wasn't uh like a gateway thing, it was more of like a social thing.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, social thing. But it that the that was your first substance, alcohol.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

So you would you consider cigarettes uh no no no no? No?

SPEAKER_05

No.

SPEAKER_04

Why? I love cigarettes.

SPEAKER_00

No, that's why.

SPEAKER_05

So that's why. And what's a cigarette a a gateway towards cigars? You don't think so?

SPEAKER_02

I don't think. I think I think so.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, nicotine is a drug, yes. Technically, yes, but you don't get it withdrawals like that are so extreme, like opioids or like alcohol.

SPEAKER_04

But you you do get it on like a certain like lower Yeah, so does not using your phone out there like for 12 hours.

SPEAKER_05

That's true. So is your phone a drug too? I think so.

SPEAKER_02

I do okay, maybe because you're trying to defend it because you smoke cigarettes. But I do think that sometimes a lot of things actually sometimes there's people that like they need to do something, and cigarettes is that one thing. If you go somewhere and you don't have a cigarette, you're like, I'm missing something. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

Oh dude, I feel like a crackhead on Friday. I forgot my I forgot that I I packed the the um cigarette case with it, and I didn't even look at it, and I was like, I was like moving stuff around the truck. Yeah, and then I stopped myself. I was like, what am I doing? What am I tearing apart my whole car for just putting it? What am I doing? And then uh I think anything can be like even coffee. Yeah, coffee pee.

SPEAKER_05

Coffee is almost accepted drug. Any change of change of state physical, mentally? It's considered drug. Yeah, but I do think though, like you're not getting a DUI from drinking like three asbestos and like going to drive, you know. So there is some limitations to like what can be considered a substance in a drug that's negative.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I'm like cereal calling my aunts after coffee.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, really? Yeah, and sometimes what does that mean?

SPEAKER_02

Like no, I'm just kidding. No, I I just I like me when I drink coffee, I'm like You're ready to go.

SPEAKER_05

I'm ready to go.

SPEAKER_02

I'm ready to clean the entire house, I'm ready to call everybody and talk and make a doctor's appointment and then it lasts like an hour and a half, and then I'm like, all right.

SPEAKER_05

Damn, wait till you try meh, dude. That's your next step. You will love meh then. That's your next step. Well, coffee, I say, is probably the most acceptable form of like caffeine slash drug, you know, usage because they serve it to you at the office. Everyone they make jokes, uh, don't talk to me until I have my coffee, you know. They even treat it like a drug, like where does it come from? You know, Columbia, it's the good shit, you know. Like, come on.

SPEAKER_02

A friend of mine was telling me yesterday, she was like, Oh, because she's like, I can drink cocause I can't drink coffee after like like maybe 12. Yeah, yeah, yeah. After 12, I I will not because then at the end of the night I won't be able to sleep.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

And she's like, no, I can drink coffee like any time of the day. Sometimes she's been drinking coffee since she was four years old.

SPEAKER_04

Whoa, since four years old.

SPEAKER_02

She said she was four, and then I was like, Oh that's pretty rad. But I get it. Well, because she grew up in Mexico, and in Mexico, I mean, now now they're learning, now they're learning more things about it. Yeah. But in Mexico, it was one of those things. Like, I remember seeing my like going to Mexico and seeing my cousins be served like a cup of coffee.

SPEAKER_10

That's cool.

SPEAKER_02

And they would be like, oh, well, it's it, they just like the taste, but it's more like milk and sugar than it is coffee. But it is coffee, but it's coffee.

SPEAKER_05

No wonder why it's sugar, yeah. Because you guys are so hyper, you guys want to run around a lot, you know? So they had to make a large field just to get all that caffeine. Those kids are so energetic.

SPEAKER_08

And they're like, run, run, keep running.

SPEAKER_05

Is the is coffee from Mexico like is that like a big culture? I don't know. Is it amber? Yeah. I'm not Mexican. So I know it's like Colombia, Vietnam, surprisingly, and then I guess Mexico is then.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and then like Cuba, Cuba coffee, oh yeah, Cuba, Cuban cigars, Africa.

SPEAKER_04

There's African coffee too, no. Is there? Yeah, is it black? That is stupid.

SPEAKER_06

Sorry I said that.

SPEAKER_09

But there is, there's I mean, coffee. Oh, so it's South Africa.

SPEAKER_01

Surprisingly, South African, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Drink coffee. You fucking donkey.

SPEAKER_10

He's drinking decaf.

SPEAKER_05

This is decaf.

SPEAKER_10

Is it decaf?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. That's like drinking like a non alcoholic beer. Why?

SPEAKER_04

It's just the flavor, huh? Yeah, the flavor, the taste. I need to be drinking something. I have an oral fixation.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's why I smoke cigarettes, though. I don't even like the feeling of cigarettes anymore. No. I just need to have something to do with my hands. Social.

SPEAKER_04

You know what? I want to develop or I need somebody to develop a cigarette that does not smell. They need one of those. But does it still kill you? No. Oh, okay. So it doesn't kill you and doesn't smell. Oh, yeah. I guess you could throw that in there. Whatever. Okay, that doesn't work.

SPEAKER_09

He's like, it could kill me, but I don't want to smell it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, just don't I don't want to do I don't want to die smelling bad.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Why why is it why is the sm the smell is the most pungent thing to you? No, I'm just saying like Amber hates the smell. Oh for Amber. Okay, okay. That that's respectable.

SPEAKER_05

Respectable.

SPEAKER_04

But she wouldn't she would actually uh you know. Now it's like the the experiment of now I'm conscious of that when I go home. Yeah, of course. So like I'm I'm constantly like washing my hands, I'm constantly like my face. You're wearing gloves.

SPEAKER_05

You ever wear gloves to smoke a cigarette so you don't get to spin on that?

SPEAKER_02

You're on the dishwashing clip. I had a Corella extendo clip is like one of his He's in a full like hazmat suit smoking his He's giving it to God here, you smoke it for me and blow it into my face. And the thing is that when we first started dating, he would smoke, and then I made a comment like, Oh, I I don't and then he stopped, and then he stopped for a really long time. Yeah, and then recently he re-adapted. I don't know what it was.

SPEAKER_04

I gotta figure out like what the trigger is. How long did you quit?

SPEAKER_02

It's going out and being like comedy, comedy, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because I'm waiting there and I'm just like I there's nothing to do.

SPEAKER_02

And everybody goes outside and smokes. Yeah, like I don't see anybody.

SPEAKER_05

And I don't want to talk so I need to do something. I just can't stand there.

SPEAKER_04

And then plus, too, I'm not drinking randomly. Of course. Uh I'm not drinking alcohol. I I don't smoke weed. Yeah. And like there's what uh what am I gonna do? Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

That's why I feel bad, like complaining when like he smells like smoke. And it's not for me to be like, stop it already. It's just one of those things that like triggers. It's just bad smells.

SPEAKER_08

It's a yeah, it smells bad.

SPEAKER_02

It smells, but then I feel bad because he's not like drinking or anything that makes him like you know, yeah, he's not chilling.

SPEAKER_05

It's calm, gummies that I forgot.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, here.

SPEAKER_05

You know what also smells bad, uh fucking rat droppings, dude. Yeah, really. Tell her about that. I should have. Wait, how long did you quit smoking cigarettes for though? Like a couple years. Oh, that's pretty fucking good.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, like two, maybe three years.

SPEAKER_05

How long were you smoking before then then?

SPEAKER_04

Uh very long time. Like what, 10 years plus?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, give or take it. All right.

SPEAKER_04

I think we're on the same direction. Because I I go off and on. Like now I'm I'm gonna quit. Like I'll uh I'm on and then I'll I'll quit in the next I don't know. We'll see. Don't vape though, do you? I tried it, but it was just too accessible. Yeah. I was doing it everywhere, every time, anyplace. Any place that I would uh and I was just it got bad. And plus I think those are like way worse for you. They could be. You don't know how to research for it. Short term, I feel like it's short term, because I was I was vaping, I had one of those like um uh I don't know, they're like gray square ones. They're they're pretty popular. Yeah. Uh they're like, I don't know what the geek geek bar. No, something else. Flume pebble. Flume. It was a flume. Yep. It was a flume. They're delicious. They're really they're magically delicious. They're really good though, that's why it's renewable. I don't, I just felt like I was doing it before going to sleep, and I was just like trying to go to sleep, and I can hear my lungs. I can hear my lungs gasping.

SPEAKER_07

You mean you can hear yourself breathing?

SPEAKER_04

No, it was I heard my lungs. Oh no.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. But I was just But it wasn't uh 10 years of cigarettes though. No, it was the flume.

SPEAKER_04

It was the blueberry mango. I blame the flume. It was the flume, dude.

SPEAKER_02

But I I think that uh vapes are worse than like cigarettes because you're able to it's the water vapor vapors. There's moisture getting into your lungs that are not. I mean, I'm not justifying cigarettes. I don't know, just yeah. But I also think that you're able to, I I'm almost sure. I'll look it up right now, but I think that you're also able to like ingest more um nicotine? Tobacco. Um yeah, like like mixed, yeah, with one inhale than like a cigarette because it's a good thing. Yeah, well, cigarette is limited.

SPEAKER_05

When it's done, it's done. But I don't know when the vape is done. And so it runs out of batteries, I guess. Yeah. And then you just charge it. Exactly. I use zins too. I use all three forms of nicotine because I'm addicted. I smoke a cigarette outside, then I go inside and I do a vape to taste it down the flavor of my mouth. Really? And then I'll take a zin because I don't want to do anything, and then I'll hit a vape with a zin in my mouth. I'm addicted. I am so screwed. I'm trying to quit though. I am trying to quit.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I'm wrong.

SPEAKER_04

Oh. I th I could have sworn I seen that it was like vaping is generally considered less harmful than smoking traditional cigarettes because it involves fewer toxic chemicals, but it is not safe. While smoking causes long-term damage, vaping can cause immediate lung injury. I freaking knew it, and addiction. I knew it. Yeah, I knew it, I knew it, I knew it.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I seen. Because I know I had seen something that I was like not worse, but it was not, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And I felt it too. I felt it, and uh you're you're doing this right something for so long you don't really feel the the effects of it, right? Sure. But then you you try another form of that and you feel like an effect of it. I'm just like, no, like I I can't do this. I rather feel it like later down the road.

SPEAKER_02

Do you smoke cigarettes? No, do you like the smell? Like not likely. No, I'm not sure. You like the smell?

SPEAKER_05

I don't like the smell. I mean, it's okay.

SPEAKER_02

But does it bother you? Like the smell?

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Growing, I hate it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

When we first started dating, we would smoke cigarettes together. And every time she goes on a trip, every time she goes on a trip outside of California, she comes back with packs of menthols for me. So she's not like a total anti-cigarette person, alright? She does smoke cigarettes, she just doesn't smoke them actively.

SPEAKER_02

I I've smoked cigarettes before, but no. My story of when I turned 18, my best friend took me to buy cigarettes because that was a thing, and I smoked an entire pack of cigarettes that night. You throw up, and I threw up, I had the taste in my mouth, and that that did it for me.

SPEAKER_04

Look, the current phase I'm in with that is I just I blame Ricky. I blame Ricky Novea. Yeah. This is blame everything on Ricky.

SPEAKER_05

I'm blaming on Ricky too, actually.

SPEAKER_04

I blame Ricky Novea because I was like, okay, you know what? I there's I used to do menthols. Yeah, and love them. They don't have menthols, they don't can't get them anymore. And I tried uh regular camels, camel wides. I'm a camel person. And I was like, ah, you know what? I I'm not finding anything. I I think I should just quit. But then this fool rolls around with Lucky Strike Golds. Lucky strikes? Lucky Strike Golds. Oh, jeez. Lucky Strikes. They are light though.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, they're light. Yeah, it's not.

SPEAKER_04

And I'm like. Not bad. Wow. Really? These are but they smell. Yeah. They stink. They're they're they have like this distinctive.

SPEAKER_02

They have this like old man.

SPEAKER_04

Camels are not are like the the stinky, the stinky part of that is is is fine, but these things are whoa whoa.

SPEAKER_05

Lucky strikes are the cigarettes they used to give the soldiers back in World War II. Dude, I'm basically a soldier. You smell like one too.

SPEAKER_10

You smell like an old stinky soldier.

SPEAKER_05

And you can identify rat droppings pretty well, like a soldier in the trenches.

SPEAKER_04

You're basically a soldier, yeah. I'm basically fighting for this country.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, you're so brave.

SPEAKER_00

Every time you smoke one, you uh God for the smoke.

SPEAKER_10

Uh, that's sweaty. But yeah. Cigarettes.

SPEAKER_05

I know. I'm trying to quit. Did you read that book? It's like how to quit smoking or whatever. It's like that book that everyone reads and it says it helps. Mm-mm. Um What is it called? I think it's just called How to Quit Smoking. Is it really? Yeah, I'm serious. It's a and everyone who's read it says it helps. It works? I didn't read it yet, because I don't I don't want to quit yet. I I like it.

SPEAKER_04

I'm thinking about that and I'm like in my it's in my I I'll I'll uh ask this question.

SPEAKER_02

But is smoking because I I think we talked to Viet about it about smoking, but we talked to Victoria. Or we did, right, on the podcast. Oh yeah. But is it is it like within your family, like culturally? Is it something that No?

SPEAKER_05

Uh I have maybe one uncle who smokes it here and there. Well, actually, my cousin. So what what's your uh ethnicity? Uh Vietnamese. Vietnamese. Just like Viet. Okay. Okay. So yeah, we probably had the same kind of upbringing about the cigarettes things, but my family not rampant, no. No. Uh probably my cousin who I was really close to, he smoked like every day. So he was the only other person that I smoked with. But my dad, no. They hated. But they know I smoke it though. Like they're cool with me smoking it, but they just say they just don't like it.

SPEAKER_02

Kind of like Latinos smoke. Yeah. But I don't it's not like within the entire family. Like it's only like certain people that like smoke. Everyone does coke, but I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But I feel like it, you know, it's always one of those things that like sometimes culturally as a culture, it's something that's it's changed now.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. It's changed now because when I was when I was growing up, um, I had a cousin and Pomona. I I moved with her and we smoked inside her house. Like we would sound so nice. We would play cards and smoke and and watch TV. Those are the days. Dude, it was it was it was cool. Play rock band.

SPEAKER_06

Oh my god, with a cigarette in your mouth.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, dude, I it was it was it was a good time. It was a good time to be 17 and 18 years old, you know.

SPEAKER_05

Well, that's when it was we could still buy it at 18 because eventually they made it 21. Yep. I turned 18, that's the first thing I did. Lottery and uh cigarettes. Pack cigarettes. Yep.

SPEAKER_02

That was the thing to do when you turned 18.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Now you wait till you're 21, it's like, dude, I'm like throwing you in college. I'm like, I don't fucking know when I was 21. Yeah, 21 now, just uh buy cigarettes, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

Dude, you play uh you play poker, right? Yes, me and my girlfriend. She I got you guys. We love playing poker together. It's one of our pastimes.

SPEAKER_02

What uh you guys like Texas Hold'em?

SPEAKER_05

Texas Hold'em, yeah. No limit. We'll play the Gardens once in a while, too, but we play online. Okay. I play with Neil, Neil Lockwood, Daniels and Bronyl just got into it, Adam Tong just got into it.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, you guys play online, you said?

SPEAKER_05

We play on our phone. There's an app on our PC and our phone that we can play together.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_05

It's it's fake money though.

SPEAKER_02

Oh but don't tell me.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's not it's not real.

SPEAKER_02

I like to play poker.

SPEAKER_05

You like to play poker? I do. Oh, you gotta play sometime. Did you know how to play Google? Uh I could learn. Okay, it's not that hard.

SPEAKER_02

He knows like numbers. Basic, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he knows a couple numbers.

SPEAKER_02

I used to play with my parents and their friends. They used to get every Friday they used to uh come together, and then I would like, oh, what are you guys doing? Oh, and then I would ask questions, and then one day they were like, You want to play? And then I played, and then I would play with them every Friday. Yeah, they haven't played. Did you still play? No, they haven't played in a long time, and I I haven't.

SPEAKER_05

Uh when's the last time you played?

SPEAKER_02

Last year when we did the thing at the city? Yeah. It was for not real money either. Yeah, but still you played. That was fun.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, it's not sometimes not about the money, it's just about playing. Oh my god, I wanted to win money. Yeah, I also do want to win money.

SPEAKER_02

That's why I feel like I shouldn't play because I feel like that would be like one of my vices.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, for sure. Yeah, it's gambling. Well, me too. If I if I find somebody that I like, I would lock in and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna find out everything I know about this game. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05

It's like I always dive full both feet in. Yeah. But also, it's nice about what gambling is like you get the dopamine hit and you make money. So it's like that's like a double whammy right there, you know. I'm not saying I'm not promoting gambling in any way. And you can smoke cigarettes while you do it. And you can smoke. Oh my god. Let's fucking go to the casino right now. Yeah, let's go. I am so down.

SPEAKER_04

You can still smoke cigarettes in the casino, right?

SPEAKER_06

Yes. You can smoke crack in the casino if you want. They let you smoke anything nowadays. Vegas is dying, bro.

SPEAKER_09

Vegas is dying.

SPEAKER_05

I've seen someone smoke crack in the lobby before. I'm not even lying. I was like, oh, I guess that's you did it.

SPEAKER_04

And you're cool. Let's go. We were talking about the casino earlier today, too.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Let's go.

SPEAKER_02

See, but I like to gamble.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But then I don't like to put my money.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I don't like losing. Like, I'm a chance. I don't like losing money either.

SPEAKER_02

Like the times I've gone to a casino, like with my parents here and there, I like make$20 stretch. I'm just playing little things here. I'm not, I I can't see myself putting like, here's$500. No, seriously. And there's people like my mom's neighbor, he goes and in one weekend he blows like thousands of dollars.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And he's like, oh, it's just fun. No.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_05

Is there a lot of like Asian gamblers? I think all Asians are gamblers. Yeah. Just like inherently. And then we decide not to. We're born gamblers and try not to gamble. I mean, on even on Chinese New Year's, the main game we all play is a gambling game. On New Year's, it's kids are gambling. Like eight-year-olds. I don't know how to say it. It's like bokaw, which is like it's like six animals. Uh-huh. Basically, you just put money on an animal and then they roll three dice, and whatever animal it r lands on, you get that money. And if it rolls three of the same and you got money on the animal, you get three times your money. That's a fucking thrill, dude.

SPEAKER_02

Latinos were the same. We have loteria.

SPEAKER_05

Loteria?

SPEAKER_02

And we've never played loteria for no money. No.

SPEAKER_05

Like even when I was like, why would you?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, someone would be like, let's not.

SPEAKER_05

We're like, but for practice? Is this practice?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I was I was a kid playing like for quarters.

SPEAKER_05

At least something.

SPEAKER_02

Or we have another one called Tomatolo, which is like a like a dreidel.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's fun.

SPEAKER_02

And then it's written on there, it says like put one. So if you put it, you have to put one, or everybody puts, and then everybody has to put coins. Oh, that sounds like the ultimate one is tomatolo, which is take all. Take all, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

So you're like, that's the one you want to learn now.

SPEAKER_02

That's fun.

SPEAKER_05

Oh fuck. That sounds like a I'm glad I didn't learn that game as a kid.

SPEAKER_02

I would yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I'd still be broke, but I'd be more broke.

SPEAKER_10

I know. But no, I I can't.

SPEAKER_05

I think I go. Gambling was one of the first vices that I did quit. Yeah. I had a I had a whole array of vices, but gambling was the one where I was like, it's not only making me feel bad, I can't enjoy watching sports, and I'm losing money. Alexa straight. Oh, you gambled on sports too? I was gamble on like Korean woman tennis at three in the morning, and you don't watch the game, you just refresh the Google School board. Uh-huh. Like just so I can just feel something. And I was losing and I was at some point at the peak of it, like opening day, I'll never forget. Diamondbacks versus Giants. I was like, all right, the Giants are gonna win. I put five grand on it. No Diamondbacks lose a Diamondbacks win. So I lose my five grand. I just stopped betting for the rest of the season. But the season before that I was profitable. The presence before that, I was up like at least 20 grand. And I made the VP of my company almost 100 grand. Because I was giving him some of my MLB picks. Because I was like studying the like you. I was getting into like the pitching odds and what's the weather like and humidity of the ball. Right. So I was making pretty good plays, but then I got cracked on one and I was like, all right, I'm done. I don't think I can do that again. So I quit that. I just started doing drugs more. Got it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10

Like drugs never let me down. Yeah, drugs will never let you down.

SPEAKER_04

They'll never do this to me. Yeah. Don't never let you lose 2,000 and a minute.

SPEAKER_02

I I don't get into things like obsessively.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's one of my things. And it might be good, it might be bad, because there's a lot of things that I like, yeah, and I buy everything and I'm like, I'm gonna do it. And then I'm like, oh, okay, this isn't for me.

SPEAKER_05

I think it has to be a balance. You can't be obsessed with everything you can't you come across, but you can't just be laissez-faire of everything. That's true. You gotta have something where you like already identified that this is my obsession that I enjoy doing, and I'm good, and it's it's healthy for me.

SPEAKER_04

But I think to find where that line is, you have to do you have to go over it a little bit. Yeah, yeah. You have to find the line, you have to say, okay, all right, this is too much. Exactly. 2,000 grand, uh$2,000 uh is or$20,000 on a game is is too much for me. I I gotta relax.

SPEAKER_05

For a lot of gamblers, it's like it's not. There's like, well, I can win$30,000, because that's the limit, too. So like maybe I can make it back and then some. Like, that's like the way they think usually.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, there's people that like put liens on their houses and like plenty of jars and you know, tuition.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I know everything.

SPEAKER_02

I remember I'll I'll end on this, but uh I remember going to uh pachanga with my parents um a couple years ago, and we were on the it was like a roulette, but it was a digital one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Casino.

SPEAKER_02

And I was playing, and my dad was playing, and we were playing for a while, and then we seen this guy, and he was like a like Asian man, and he had a jean jacket on, and then he was with like these like uh like white guys, and he was in between them, and he was like, Oh, you like give it them. He wasn't saying like I couldn't see what he was saying, but he was like, He's a player, and then they were like, Wow, and then again, like he he the man wasn't playing, he was just like standing around, and then the guys kept winning and winning, and then my dad's like, I think this guy like knows, you know, like he knows he's on a hot streak or like the man knew what yeah, you know, he was counting and all these things, and then the man came over, and then my dad's like, hey, and then the man like looked like uh, you know. I guess he chooses who he kind of wants to follow up to. And then he finally came and then he told my dad, he's like, he's like, he kind of told my dad, you know, oh, if you want to win, you know, choose this and that. And then my dad won, and then he just like tipped him. Noah, my dad tipped him, and I think that's what he would work off of, is yeah, like whatever you, yeah. And I was like, oh shit. And then some of the waitresses started coming around, and then that's when he took off.

SPEAKER_05

Oh too much heat. Damn, we gotta find him.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, damn. He was making them win like good.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, what I wonder what it was.

SPEAKER_02

And it wasn't like a like a table, you know, where yeah, it was like a screen. Yeah, it was a screen, so there weren't that many people on that side. So maybe like he knows where to kind of go, but yeah. And I was like, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_04

Where was this? Pachanga?

SPEAKER_05

It was pachanga. Where's pachanga at? I think it's San Diego, right? Near San Diego, or is it no?

SPEAKER_02

I think it's where like the dinosaurs at the Calabasas? Cabazon.

SPEAKER_04

Oh not Calabasas, Cabazan. Yeah, right? Cabazon.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, Cabazon.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, Cabazon. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02

So going towards like Palm Springs.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, okay, yeah, okay. Kind of like a morongo then. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, maybe that's morongo?

SPEAKER_04

They're both. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

They're both okay, pachonga.

SPEAKER_04

Pachongas are a whole bunch everywhere. And there's Salmon Well, too. Salmon Wow's in Highland.

SPEAKER_02

And then there's like Yamava now. Yamava.

SPEAKER_05

We're just talking about it. We're just like sponsors. We're just promoting casino. Here's where you can go lose money, and you're you.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, there's the Southgate one, the bicycle casino.

SPEAKER_05

That's a big one for poker. That's like one of the biggest. Have you been there? I'm too scared. They're too good. Why? They're too good. They're too good. Professional players have rooms there to really live. And they wake up and they go downstairs, play poker, take all your fucking money, and then they go back up to their rooms and eat dinner.

SPEAKER_02

Their taco Tuesday is really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been there for that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, go for that. Don't play poker, but go for the tacos for sure. You could do it, tech. I if I did, if I could, I would have already. You could do well, you're right now you're you're practicing.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Practicing. Why don't you practice? It's like open mic. It's still gambling.

SPEAKER_05

It is gambling and luck, though, in a sense, you know. You don't know. I think you know you should. There's an edge, yeah. There's a small edge.

SPEAKER_04

You know about it, right? Yeah, there's a small edge. If you understand.

SPEAKER_02

I'm just scared to make like to play at like a big table or really because I feel like it's all odds, dude.

SPEAKER_04

It's all no, it's all math.

SPEAKER_02

It's not because I don't know how to play or anything, but I know that they're very particular, like other people that you play with, or even the dealers that I'm scared to make uh a mistake or something, and then they get all pissed off.

SPEAKER_05

They're more forgiving than you think, you know. You keep making the same mistake, of course you're gonna get mad, but you make them one or two, like, yeah, that's okay. You marry one, probably not. Everyone makes mistakes. It is nerve-wracking. I played a tournament before and I made it to the final table, and like everyone was like standing around the table watching it, and I was only 22 at the time, so I was like, this is the first time I've been like in front of a big stage, and I was like shaking while like putting my chips in. Well, you've been playing for a while, dude. Well, my 21st birthday is what I did, and I that's my that's how I celebrated. I've been to play a poker tournament at the gardens. Really? Yeah. Wait, how old are you, Tech? I'm 31.

SPEAKER_04

What? 31's not bad. Yeah, I know. I just wanted to make it be dramatic about it. 31's not bad. Dude, 30s are they're gonna be good to you. I'm excited.

SPEAKER_05

I have the best partner in the world, and uh comedy's taking off, you know, pokers we're we're making some money from poker here and there, we're filming, editing, we're having a good time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10

It's a good time.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we're about to go have some, we're about to go east dinner, we're um No complaints about it. My thirty You're good, dude? I'm great.

SPEAKER_04

Do you have anything else? How long can we go on? Well, I I we can go on until we get kicked out on the top because we've been locked out. We've been locked in.

SPEAKER_05

We were locked in. Now we live here.

SPEAKER_04

Nothing really. I plug a couple shows. I mean gotta wrap it up. Dude, tech. This was awesome, man. That was so fun. I gotta have you again. Oh, please. Let's do this in the couple months. Of course.

SPEAKER_02

Dang, two hours went by fast. That was two hours? Two hours and two hours.

SPEAKER_04

Honestly, no, honestly, we could have gone another hour for sure. I thought it was only one hour.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's what we say standard, but we went over.

SPEAKER_05

But is it still recording? Yeah. Oh, do I do plugs or anything? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Go.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, shit. I'm an amateur.

SPEAKER_04

Uh April 1st. I don't know when this comes out. Hold on. Let me tell you. Tech, this was awesome. Thanks for coming out and doing the podcast. Tell us where we can find you and what you have coming up.

SPEAKER_05

Uh, you can find me on Instagram. It's dot T E K. Uh what things I have coming up? Uh April 1st, Craft Brewery. Caesar, our boy. I'm doing uh Road Dogs for my first time. I'm really excited for that. On the 22nd. And then I'm hosting and featuring at Proof on the 9th and the 30th. Just come out to Noble Ale, support Orange County stand-up scene. We love Daniel. We love everyone. Just come out to Mike. You'll see me there. Thank you for having me again. Awesome.

SPEAKER_04

Tech, this was fun, man. It was so fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You learned a lot from us?

SPEAKER_04

I learned way more than I way too much. I should have brought a notebook that can not. Well, it's on the internet forever. You can listen to it. Yeah, I'm gonna re-listen to this.

SPEAKER_02

Tonight he's gonna be up till 5 in the morning.

SPEAKER_04

Right in Notion.

SPEAKER_02

No, it was fun. Thank you. Of course. Thank you for coming to.

SPEAKER_05

Thank you, baby.

SPEAKER_02

I know.

SPEAKER_05

I know we maybe ran along, so we're gonna be a good dinner.

SPEAKER_02

She's like, I'm hungry.

SPEAKER_05

Thank you. I know. She was like ready to go on Yelp.

SPEAKER_02

You need to get her something good to get her.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, something good, dude. Oh well, I already know. You know where not to take her from listening to the podcast. Don't go to Nope. As long as it doesn't have rat dropping, I think we'll be fine. Um, let's see, what do we got? What do we got? What do we got? Uh follow the podcast on Instagram, rat 20k, and I am excited about that. I love it. I love you guys. Even if you're commenting bad stuff, it's fortunate. Uh follow us on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, all that good stuff, tech. Thanks for coming up, man. Thank you. An honor. It was what?